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Old 12-21-2006, 09:38 PM   #16
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what was the name of The First episode that Sandy was on

I mentioned this up above in my last post. Her first episode is called "Moving On".


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Default i thought one of sandys great episodes was near the end of the series

the one when rich comes back and it is revealed he has aids.david tries to push himself away from the whole situation.sandy tells him a story about one of her friends who was dying or actually who had died and how she dealt with the situation.i felt the scene was moving.then david decides to go and spend time in the hospital with rich.its my favorite hogan episode. the best out of the cbs lot of episodes.john hillerman did nothing for that series.
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I've never seen this episode but it sounds wonderful. I had forgotten that they had Valerie's character die. How sad. I'd love to see it sometime. Hopefully someone posted it on Youtube.
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One could see the producers and writers were plenty pissed at Valerie Harper so any reference to her character's death was treated with as much indignity as possible. The only reason why the show was able to get away with it is because the public at that time was convinced that Valerie Harper was in the wrong and deserved what she got. Now that we know that wasn't the case, it makes those episodes almost unwatchable. I think that even if the actress herself was a complete witch (which, we know now, wasn't the case), there was no need to take it out on her character. Valerie Hogan loved her boys and husband. They were her whole world and, during the Valerie era anyway, they loved her equally. I can't help but feel that the blasé reactions over her death kind of spit on what went on before. There's just something off about it.

It certainly doesn't say much for her family as human beings if they can practically forget about her as if she never existed and continue on as if all was normal...

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Agreed, buddy. Whoever was responsible for Ms. Harper's firing, whether it's Miller and Boyett, Lorimar, or NBC, should have been blacklisted or bankrupted for 5 years.

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I agree with Edster here.

The Valerie years brought that extra depth of realism to the show when Valerie Harper was around.

But once Valerie got the shaft treatment heave-ho, Sandy Duncan was brought in and although there were some good eps. with Sandy, the show became another silly, typical Miller-Boyett show along the lines of Full House, Family Matters, and Step by Step.
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I've never seen this episode but it sounds wonderful. I had forgotten that they had Valerie's character die. How sad. I'd love to see it sometime. Hopefully someone posted it on Youtube.

If you're speaking about the AIDS episode, I have it posted on youtube:

Pt. 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9gwU9ImH9c

Pt. 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0WND...eature=related

Pt. 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwYTW...eature=related



If you're speaking of the episode "Movin' On" where Sandy Duncan's character is introduced and we learn that Valerie Hogan has died in a car accident, I also have that posted on youtube:

Pt. 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Edaz-oWNU

Pt. 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snNya...eature=related

Pt. 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiUys...eature=related


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I agree with Edster here.

The Valerie years brought that extra depth of realism to the show when Valerie Harper was around.

But once Valerie got the shaft treatment heave-ho, Sandy Duncan was brought in and although there were some good eps. with Sandy, the show became another silly, typical Miller-Boyett show along the lines of Full House, Family Matters, and Step by Step.


I'm glad someone gets what I'm saying. All people hear is that I'm somehow against Sandy Duncan, and that isn't the case. I think the quality and level of writing could've been maintained with Sandy there, and although I still would've missed Valerie and her character, I would've enjoyed the show more or less in the same way. But that wasn't the case.

How they handled Valerie Hogan dying is proof of that. It was hardly on their radar and I think in order for that episode not to look like it was from a different universe, that sub-level of silliness continued on. What saved the show, and what still appealed to me as a viewer, was the acting. As sub-par and unoriginal as many of the stories were, the actors had a way of making some of the recycled jokes and gag humor sound very fresh and original. Just goes to show you that the cast was dynamite, and I definitely include Sandy Duncan in that. Valerie Harper wasn't the only one to suffer when she was booted off of the show. In many ways, the whole cast (including Duncan) was victimized and I think this is why the show is hardly remembered at all except for the die-hards. It's quite sad when someone brings up the show and all that's really remembered is that Valerie was fired from it.

The show deserves more than that, and so do the cast and its fans.

~ to Miller/Boyett, Lorimar and NBC - Hope all the ego wars and battles over money were worth it. Because of what transpired, the show is hardly ever aired in syndication and none of you makes any money from it. Way to go dummies!!!

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