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|09-20-2006, 05:29 PM||#1|
Join Date: Aug 25, 2006
How to.. avoid Bad Traders?
Want to avoid Bad Traders or Incompetent Traders?
I've just google search this link, I hope it helps..
|09-20-2006, 06:43 PM||#2|
just getting started
Join Date: Jun 14, 2006
Location: Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
I read these 3 and thought it was a bad joke.
1. Uses a free e-mail account. A free e-mail address is a tip-off that someone may want to be able to hide. I almost never trade with someone who uses such an address. Note that there are a lot of domains that provide free e-mail accounts, so if you receive a letter from someone with a domain you don't recognize, check their web site to see if the domain is one of them. For example, if email@example.com writes you, look at http://www.bar.com.
You should also be a little extra wary of people who use .edu, MSN, or AOL accounts. .edu accounts are free, not too hard to switch, and given to people who may abandon them soon (especially near the end of a school year or during the summer). So they have the same problems -- to a lesser extent -- as other free e-mail addresses. People with MSN or AOL accounts are more likely to be new to computers -- and trading -- and thus are a higher risk. However, the risk in this case is more often ending up with an incompetent trade than a bad trade.
2. Uses bad English. b carful f ppl use no caps punctuation or haf bad speling specially f u think their doing it 2 b kewl or r doing so 2 save writeing a ltr or 2.
3. Uses the word Jap. Jap is a pejorative. Anyone who uses it instead of J, Japan, or Japanese is likely to be, at best, obtuse, and someone you don't want anything to do with.
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|09-20-2006, 08:06 PM||#3|
Join Date: Aug 25, 2006
Yeah, that 3 kinda sucks too, coz a lot of email account is free, a good example is Yahoo! And bad english=bad trader? WTF??!! A lot of people isn't good in english like me, coz I'm filipino I'm not saying that all filipino sucks in english, but mainly most of them, I mean most of us.
"It doesn't matter how many times you fall down, when you can just always stand up."
|09-20-2006, 10:29 PM||#4|
Cutest Couch Potato
Join Date: Oct 21, 2003
This is a good crash course-but please contact any moderators should you have any questions or concerns.
Looking for a trade partner?
1)Donít be shy about asking around!Good traders donít mind being inquired upon.
2)Utilize search engines-
You can check by email address, postal address, user idís often come up under google, and yahoo engines as well.
Post Trader Checks on any/all boards you are involved in.
Hearing nothing bad on one board, doesnít signify the user has a good record.
It can simply mean they havenít caused a problem on THAT board-
Yahoo Search Engine: http://search.yahoo.com/search/options
Google Search Engine: http://www.google.com/
Traders Report: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/traders_report/post
Reverse White Pages : http://www.whitepages.com/reverse-address
Check the Bad Trader list on Various sites such as our very own : http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...d.php?t=144384
3)Pay attention-Is their email address changing? When you look them up did they just sign up? Do they have a low post count? Do they have a large list, but no feedback?
These are all things to pay attention to.
4)Last but not least trust your intuition! There is not doubt at sometime the average trader will cross someone who is going to attempt to take advantage of them-So the bottom line is donít risk high numbers and high disc counts until you have established some trust.
Bad Traders tend to be chronic liars, and dishonest from the beginning. So if the deal sounds too good to be trueÖ..you might want to reconsider.
Bad Traders tend to take advantage of new traders. They contact them expressing they need to send first, when this is always negotiable.
They tend to set up uneven trades-Stating for example Vhs is worth less than DVD and other tactics
They tend to hide information about themselves, or change information.
You may set up the trade as they state they live in Ohio- and then suddenly, they ďmeant they lived in OhioĒ but now reside in Australia.
Bad Traders often use their OWN email address as refrences-
So if you feel the need, check the IP, or email header information and compare notes.
Ready to set up the trade?:
1)Typically the newer trader, or the one whom initiates- Sends first.
2)Start Small! Until you are comfortable with trading, and trust it is always best to stay small. It can help keep you from being taken advantage of, as well as being frustrated.
3)Get a crash course in knowing grading of shows, and quality opinions.
More arguments occur over people disagreeing on quality, then most other subjects.
Be fair when you receive, and be honest when you describe.
4)Delivery Confirmation is often more than worth the money
In most areas, delivery confirmation is less than 60 cents.
It can provide proof your item was shipped if accused-
And give peace of mind, if delayed.
5)Factor in shipping!
A lot of people donít realize shipping really adds up. Factor in, where you are shipping to- The cost, length of time-
UK shipping can be costly, Canadian as well. Both can can take longer periods of time as well
So please factor all that into your trade, to avoid grief later.
A great site to help with this is
You can factor cost, length of time- and even the added features as signature confirmation, tracking, priority and so forth.
Once the trade is over:
Remember to be polite!
Did the trade go well? Then tell them that, and share the word- so they can build their reputation as well.
Did they go out of their way to do something, extra packing, details? Bonus disc- Make sure to thank them- Being polite goes a long way!
CHECK your discs- the best way to keep things running smoothly is to check your discs, and verify them-for your own inventory later-
Should you need a replacement it is far easier to get one in a week, then to discover you need it 6 months down the road.
No matter the reputation of the trader, check your discs.
You may have media incompatabilies, there might be damage along shipping-
Or simply a burn error that was missed. Checking right away, saves many problems later on.
Unfortunately not every precaution works-
And not every trade goes well-
If you find you are unhappy over the situation:
Contact the user first- Communication can prevent many problems often.
Donít be intimidated, be polite state the problem and try to resolve it between you.
However, contacting a moderator can also be helpful to mediate the situation.
Try to be respectful, and be fair about the situation- Mistakes do happen, Mail does get lost-Things do get damaged.
So be kind when possible
If all else fails and or the problems seem to be purposeful:
1. Post their name, email address, and at least partial postal mail address on tape trading boards.
2-Contact a moderator, this assures that if there are multiple problems occurring something can be done sooner than later.
3-You can file a Mail Complaint Form
Why the post office?
Although the Inspection Service cannot resolve routine business disputes between companies and their customers, it can act against a company or individual if there is a pattern of activity suggesting a potential scheme to defraud. Completion of this form is voluntary, but the more information that you enter, the better the Inspection Service may be able to help.
For more information on Tape Trading, and Etiquette as well as beginner questions here are some fantasic links
DVD, Burning and Buying tips
Converting, Copying, and your Basic guides for beginners
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