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Old 05-27-2006, 01:24 PM   #46
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They definitely tried to make Carl to be James when he used the words, "the militant midget" Only James can say that in my opinion.
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They definitely tried to make Carl to be James when he used the words, "the militant midget" Only James can say that in my opinion.


Now that I agree with, they should have never had Carl say what James used to say, if anything they should have gave Carl his own Phrase
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that Florida would have been better off with Bookman than that loser Carl!
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Old 05-27-2006, 03:36 PM   #49
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I didn't like the character that Carl was made to be. Like I said before, that man Ben, from Flo's night out, was a good match. He was good looking and appeared very nice and gentle. Carl came off aggressive, and the atheist thing was taking it too far. Had a male character had the gentle, non-aggressive personality, it would have worked out great. I never compared Carl to James. If anything, it seems the writers were trying to make Carl somewhat an imitation of James, being loud, aggressive, etc.

I like Ben as well. If they would had brought him in the following season it would had been more acceptable for the audience. Look at Make Room for Daddy when Jean Hagen quit the show and they killed her character, Margaret Williams, off. They made Danny Williams a widower for an entire season. He dated different women until him and Kathy met. The following season they were married. It was more acceptable to the audience. The show had 7 more years to their life with the addition of Marjorie Lord as Danny Thomas second TV wife.

On Good Times James death was played out before our eyes with the family getting the telegram that he was killed in an automobile accident. We saw the family dealing with the aftermath of it after the funeral when they all gathered at the house. With Florida dealing with the initial shock of James being gone with her famous line, "Damn, Damn, Damn" and to this day I get chills when that is acted out and when she breaks down. Classic TV. Good Times was one of the first shows where we see a main character death being played out before our eyes as an audience. We felt that loss as well because we all loved James.
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I never compared him to James because he had nothing to do with John amos leaving the show. I think it would be unfair to compare him to James. Carl was entertaining in his own way

Carl (Moses Gunn) didn't have anything at all to do with James (John Amos) leaving the show whatsoever. They were two entirely different characters, in different seasons yet, and I totally agree with the fact that comparing Carl to James is not right or even necessary. As I said, they were two entirely different characters, and they were each enjoyable/entertaining on their own unique levels.

If you all would please read a little closer to the facts surrounding the GT casting, John Amos left the show b/c of repeated conflicts with how JJ and his character were being portrayed all the time.
He didn't like the fact that JJ Walker was doing a "rendition" of Vaudeville-style buffoonery in the JJ Evans character; John thought that it was real offensive. Especially during a time when blacks were trying to establish themselves as decent figures overall, without unnecessary stereotyping and so forth. John didn't want to be a part of stereotypical buffoonery at all, and so he went his own way. Period.

BTW, what DID happen to Carl Dixon? The only thing I remember of that marriage was when they moved to Arizona (Esther had briefly left the GT show), and the next thing I know is that Florida is back in Chicago.
What happened to the new hubby, eh???

Someone tell me, please...thanx
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Carl (Moses Gunn) didn't have anything at all to do with James (John Amos) leaving the show whatsoever. They were two entirely different characters, in different seasons yet, and I totally agree with the fact that comparing Carl to James is not right or even necessary. As I said, they were two entirely different characters, and they were each enjoyable/entertaining on their own unique levels.

If you all would please read a little closer to the facts surrounding the GT casting, John Amos left the show b/c of repeated conflicts with how JJ and his character were being portrayed all the time.
He didn't like the fact that JJ Walker was doing a "rendition" of Vaudeville-style buffoonery in the JJ Evans character; John thought that it was real offensive. Especially during a time when blacks were trying to establish themselves as decent figures overall, without unnecessary stereotyping and so forth. John didn't want to be a part of stereotypical buffoonery at all, and so he went his own way. Period.

BTW, what DID happen to Carl Dixon? The only thing I remember of that marriage was when they moved to Arizona (Esther had briefly left the GT show), and the next thing I know is that Florida is back in Chicago.
What happened to the new hubby, eh???

Someone tell me, please...thanx

He was written off as if he was never there.
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Carl (Moses Gunn) didn't have anything at all to do with James (John Amos) leaving the show whatsoever. They were two entirely different characters, in different seasons yet, and I totally agree with the fact that comparing Carl to James is not right or even necessary. As I said, they were two entirely different characters, and they were each enjoyable/entertaining on their own unique levels.

If you all would please read a little closer to the facts surrounding the GT casting, John Amos left the show b/c of repeated conflicts with how JJ and his character were being portrayed all the time.
He didn't like the fact that JJ Walker was doing a "rendition" of Vaudeville-style buffoonery in the JJ Evans character; John thought that it was real offensive. Especially during a time when blacks were trying to establish themselves as decent figures overall, without unnecessary stereotyping and so forth. John didn't want to be a part of stereotypical buffoonery at all, and so he went his own way. Period.

BTW, what DID happen to Carl Dixon? The only thing I remember of that marriage was when they moved to Arizona (Esther had briefly left the GT show), and the next thing I know is that Florida is back in Chicago.
What happened to the new hubby, eh???

Someone tell me, please...thanx


That's right Cindy, you have to see Carl as "NOT JAMES REPLACEMENT but as a New Addition to the show. And once you do that, you see him as Carl Dixon not the Guy to replace James
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He's in the black hole of TV characters who were forgotten by friends/family along with Chuck Cunningham, Judy Winslow, and Anna Craig (the one-episode wife of Rev. Alden on Little House on the Prairie). I didn't think Carl was THAT bad, but his character was poorly developed and shoehorned into the story. Count me in as another who liked Ben, the gentleman Flo met at the singles bar. I would have loved to see THAT love story instead.

There was ONE reference to Carl in Season 6. Florida was telling Michael, "There's a book on my bag. Carl and I bought it for you." The book was called Quotes From Great Black Leaders (or something like that). That was in Florida's Homecoming Part 2.
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That's messed up that he was written off. I don't know what the point was for having him on the show in the first place.
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From what little we have to go on, we'll have to assume that Carl succumed to the cancer he was diagnosed as having in a previous season's episode. When Florida mentioned him that one time upon returning to her family, she spoke of him with a meloncholy expression. Carl apparently died in Arizona and after the funeral, she had no reason to remain there.

That said, GT's loyal viewers were owed this explanation by the writers who introduced and got those viewers to care about him in the first place. In addition, Moses Gunn and the character he portrayed were too good to be treated this carelessly.

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From what little we have to go on, we'll have to assume that Carl succumed to the cancer he was diagnosed as having in a previous season's episode. When Florida mentioned him that one time upon returning to her family, she spoke of him with a meloncholy expression. Carl apparently died in Arizona and after the funeral, she had no reason to remain there.

That said, GT's loyal viewers were owed this explanation by the writers who introduced and got those viewers to care about him in the first place. In addition, Moses Gunn and the character he portrayed were too good to be treated this carelessly.

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@ Solomon: Do we have any proof? I really want to know if there is something out there? On screen or offscreen? This is of major interest to me. I wondered about this.
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@ Solomon: Do we have any proof? I really want to know if there is something out there? On screen or offscreen? This is of major interest to me. I wondered about this.


I will try to ask my mom since she watched every sitcom from the 70's. I started thinking about it more when I read a 1978 Jet from September and it said that

"Florida's new husband will be moved to a veterans hospital near chicago in a upcoming segement"


So that's proof right there LOL
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Yeah, Florida gave Michael a book she and Carl bought and that was the very last reference to Carl. She was always thereafter referred to a 'Mrs. Evans' NEVER 'Mrs. Dixon' and everyone pretended from that point onwards that she'd only been married once to James and no one else thereafter. Curiously, within a few episodes of James' death Willona tried to encourage Florida to date again yet Florida never once hinted at wanting to date anyone again after her return from Arizona. Was it because she was still deeply mourning James or was she unable to due to being stuck in a marriage she no longer wanted to be in but decided that staying in that marriage would keep her from being tempted to try it a 3rd time?
Also, it seemed they were trying to make Keith a younger version of James who married Thelma.
Don't feel too bad for Carl. There's talk he cavorted with someone named Hester-Sue on a rival network!
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