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Old 10-29-2005, 09:33 PM   #1
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hi i have a question to ask, i no that good times was done in the 70's and the cosby show was done in the 80's which show do you think is better the cosby's or good times, i think the cosby is because the family stayed together and there was never non of the boofen that jj portrayed, i wonder how come cosby did not like that show, and why was his show done in new york instead of la later
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what are u talking about the cosby show family "stayed together" and good times didnt??? look good times is a much better show.....both had good concepts but good times was sooo much funnier

the cosby show u can say was more of a "positive" black sitcom but good time's was also positive...it shows the REALITY of living in the ghetto...whether u feel they glorified it or not....they were a proud family and they were trying to get out of the ghetto....cosby show was different and it was good but how many black familes u know in that era that related to the cosby show?.....thats not to say that its unrealistc for a black family to be professionals but i feel that the majority of black families related more to shows like good times and sanford & son...im talking about the jokes and situations not so much as majority living in the ghetto and has an uncle that is a junkyard salesmen....im latino by the way but good times > cosby show lol
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They were both great shows, but personally, I always felt that the timing was beneficial to both especially the Cosby Show, because it wouldn't have gone over totally in the 70's.
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I like both series for what they were. Good Times fell off in its 5th season though. Cosby Show is entertaining and had less of a shark jump. The only thing I don't like about it is that in the later episodes they didn't feature the original players together very often and I'm not a fan of Raven Symone in this show.

I agree with the above comment that they both benefitted from the eras in which they ran. Both shows are extremely reflective of their eras. Cosby Show would have been considered too bourgie for the 70s and Good Times would've been too out of step with the upward mobility push of the Reagan era.

In 2006 we're more likely to see something like Cosby than Good Times. Good Times would be considered too depressing by people at the networks. Even if it was well written and acted they would be afraid to broadcast it for fear of a bad reaction from watchdog groups. I think the 70s was the only era when very gritty sitcoms like the Norman Lear shows could really thrive. If you look at his series: Sanford and Son, Good Times, All in the Family, One Day At A Time and series like Chico and the Man, Kotter and Barney Miller and some others the shows for the most part weren't showcasing sexy characters, they wore simple attire and most of these shows were about working class or poor people. Since the early 80s tv sitcoms have regressed to escapism. Even in Cosby Show they intentionally cast Phylicia Rashad because they wanted to break stereotypes by showing a sexy professional African American wife.
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I like both series for what they were. Good Times fell off in its 5th season though. Cosby Show is entertaining and had less of a shark jump. The only thing I don't like about it is that in the later episodes they didn't feature the original players together very often and I'm not a fan of Raven Symone in this show.

I agree with the above comment that they both benefitted from the eras in which they ran. Both shows are extremely reflective of their eras. Cosby Show would have been considered too bourgie for the 70s and Good Times would've been too out of step with the upward mobility push of the Reagan era.

In 2006 we're more likely to see something like Cosby than Good Times. Good Times would be considered too depressing by people at the networks. Even if it was well written and acted they would be afraid to broadcast it for fear of a bad reaction from watchdog groups. I think the 70s was the only era when very gritty sitcoms like the Norman Lear shows could really thrive. If you look at his series: Sanford and Son, Good Times, All in the Family, One Day At A Time and series like Chico and the Man, Kotter and Barney Miller and some others the shows for the most part weren't showcasing sexy characters, they wore simple attire and most of these shows were about working class or poor people. Since the early 80s tv sitcoms have regressed to escapism. Even in Cosby Show they intentionally cast Phylicia Rashad because they wanted to break stereotypes by showing a sexy professional African American wife.


Denise Nichols on "Baby I'm Back" in 1978 was a sexy African American women but wasn't a professional and was not with the husband. So I guess Phylicia was the first black sexy professional wife
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Denise Nichols on "Baby I'm Back" in 1978 was a sexy African American women but wasn't a professional and was not with the husband. So I guess Phylicia was the first black sexy professional wife

I remember Denise from Room 222 more than from Baby I'm Back, although I used to watch it in 1978. Baby I'm Back got a lot of negative critiques because it was about a deadbeat father.
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I remember Denise from Room 222 more than from Baby I'm Back, although I used to watch it in 1978. Baby I'm Back got a lot of negative critiques because it was about a deadbeat father.


I still think all the eps of Baby I'm Back is better that any episode from the last season of the Cosby Show and Good times-lol
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I like both series for what they were. Good Times fell off in its 5th season though. Cosby Show is entertaining and had less of a shark jump. The only thing I don't like about it is that in the later episodes they didn't feature the original players together very often and I'm not a fan of Raven Symone in this show.

I agree with the above comment that they both benefitted from the eras in which they ran. Both shows are extremely reflective of their eras. Cosby Show would have been considered too bourgie for the 70s and Good Times would've been too out of step with the upward mobility push of the Reagan era.

In 2006 we're more likely to see something like Cosby than Good Times. Good Times would be considered too depressing by people at the networks. Even if it was well written and acted they would be afraid to broadcast it for fear of a bad reaction from watchdog groups. I think the 70s was the only era when very gritty sitcoms like the Norman Lear shows could really thrive. If you look at his series: Sanford and Son, Good Times, All in the Family, One Day At A Time and series like Chico and the Man, Kotter and Barney Miller and some others the shows for the most part weren't showcasing sexy characters, they wore simple attire and most of these shows were about working class or poor people. Since the early 80s tv sitcoms have regressed to escapism. Even in Cosby Show they intentionally cast Phylicia Rashad because they wanted to break stereotypes by showing a sexy professional African American wife.
Why do people say Claire was sexy? She had no body and her face was average at best. Rudy on the other hand...
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I've only seen a handful of Good Times episodes, it seems like an okay show at best, just never kept my attention.
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I think Phylicia Rashad (Clair) is gorgeous. IMO she got more attractive as the seasons of The Cosby Show progressed. I think she's much sexier on the last episode than in the pilot. I also found her more attractive in Cosby than in The Cosby Show. She had curves in Cosby. Phylicia has a sensuality about her that I find very attractive.

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hi i have a question to ask, i no that good times was done in the 70's and the cosby show was done in the 80's which show do you think is better the cosby's or good times, i think the cosby is because the family stayed together and there was never non of the boofen that jj portrayed, i wonder how come cosby did not like that show, and why was his show done in new york instead of la later
I like the cosby show better because I like that it broke grounds by showing American that not all Black people are poor and uneducated. It showed that Black people can be shown in a positive light and still be funny and not have to resort to the Stepin Fetchit antics of JJ to get a laugh. The main reason the mother and father left Good Times is because they were fed up with the way JJ's character was reduced to the same bafoon role that plagued alot of black actors in the early Hollywood. Back then, white audiences were much more interested in a lazy, illiterate, silly black man than an educated responsible one, and judging from the way JJ became the star and main attraction, that typecasting was kept alive. It took the Cosby show to say, "hold on, we're doctors, lawyers, judges, teachers, and leaders, just like you."
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Not trying to start anything but why must people ALWAYS start this Cosby Show vs. Good Times mess? Why don't everyone take the time to respect BOTH shows without dissing the other?

Both shows had WTF? moments (Ex: GT:James death, Flordia leaving, J.J the 70's urkel. CS: Hillman, Raven-Symone and later on the 'hood' kids) but come on, we don't need to put these shows against each other.

I have never heard anyone putting Martin against The Jeffersons or 227 against The Hughley's or something like that. Yes my life was more Cosby than Good Times but that's another story.
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Not trying to start anything but why must people ALWAYS start this Cosby Show vs. Good Times mess? Why don't everyone take the time to respect BOTH shows without dissing the other?

Both shows had WTF? moments (Ex: GT:James death, Flordia leaving, J.J the 70's urkel. CS: Hillman, Raven-Symone and later on the 'hood' kids) but come on, we don't need to put these shows against each other.

I have never heard anyone putting Martin against The Jeffersons or 227 against The Hughley's or something like that. Yes my life was more Cosby than Good Times but that's another story.


I like cmparing Good Times to the Jeffersons, Cosby Show has more in common with Family Matters
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