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Janice · 05-29-2005, 01:49 PM

Nine Inch Nails Drops Out of MTV Show

LOS ANGELES (May 28) - Nine Inch Nails dropped out of the MTV Movie Awards after clashing with the network over an image of President Bush the band planned as a performance backdrop.

The Bush image was to accompany the song "The Hand That Feeds," which obliquely criticizes the Iraq war. It includes the lyrics: "What if this whole crusade's a charade / And behind it all there's a price to be paid / For the blood on which we dine / Justified in the name of the holy and the divine."

MTV said in a statement to its news division that the network was disappointed the industrial rock band would not perform but had been "uncomfortable with their performance being built around a partisan political statement."

The Foo Fighters will perform in place of the Trent Reznor-led band at the awards being taped June 4 in Los Angeles.

Reznor said in a statement posted on the band's Web site Thursday that the image of the president would have been unaltered and "straightforward."

"Apparently, the image of our president is as offensive to MTV as it is to me," he said.

Nine Inch Nails' fourth studio album and first in six years, "With Teeth," debuted this month at No. 1 in sales.

James"Thunder"Early · 05-29-2005, 01:53 PM

There's a time and place for political statements and an awards show is not that place. The band is being unreasonable IMO.

Janice · 05-29-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Phillips

There's a time and place for political statements and an awards show is not that place. The band is being unreasonable IMO.

Dr. Phillips, is that really you? Has someone got you tied up and has hacked into your computer?

Max Whittaker · 05-29-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Janice

Dr. Phillips, is that really you? Has someone got you tied up and has hacked into your computer?

.....

Maybe... Don't worry Dr. Phillips! I'm coming! I'll rescue you!!!

James"Thunder"Early · 05-29-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Janice

Dr. Phillips, is that really you? Has someone got you tied up and has hacked into your computer?

ABlairican Pie · 05-29-2005, 02:41 PM

Where have all the voices of dissent gone in music? Just like when they censored the Smothers Brothers in the 60's. MTV are a bunch of lilly-livered cowards. WEENIES, ALL OF YA!!

*Pleasant Tomorrow* · 05-29-2005, 02:55 PM

God, it's so annoying when singers get all political. Shut the hell up, we don't frikkin care.

ABlairican Pie · 05-29-2005, 03:29 PM

Isn't social commentary part of rock and roll? If the song was about a war many people care about, shouldn't he be allowed to sing about it?

*Pleasant Tomorrow* · 05-29-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain ABlairica

Isn't social commentary part of rock and roll? If the song was about a war many people care about, shouldn't he be allowed to sing about it?

No.

TheGreatPretender · 05-29-2005, 05:38 PM

Meh it would be too risque. Another silly controversy nothing changing. But do you honestly think the President would take Nine Inch Nails seriously?

Janice · 05-29-2005, 05:40 PM

I guess it comes down to being a time and a place for everything. This is a Movie Award event and MTV wants to keep it politically free, perhaps fearing that making political statements will take the focus off the reason for the show.

Also, I'm sure that MTV realizes that there are many people who support the President and the war, and they don't want to alienate them. I don't want any band, actor, actress, or anyone shoving their political opinions on me.

Good business decision on the part of MTV. They have every right to hire or not hire whomever they want. I'm sure there won't be any bands praising Bush there either.

ABlairican Pie · 05-29-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by *Pleasant Tomorrow*

No.

So Black Sabbath shouldn't have sung about Vietnam with "War Pigs"?

Scratch that, they didn't refer to Vietnam by name in 1970, but everyone knew what they were talking about.

Janice · 05-29-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain ABlairica

So Black Sabbath shouldn't have sung about Vietnam with "War Pigs"?

Any band can sing any song they want, but where they're allowed to sing it isn't always up to them.

It's the venue that sets this situation apart. MTV is a private enterprise. It's their decision if they want to keep politics out of their Awards Show.

*Pleasant Tomorrow* · 05-29-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain ABlairica

So Black Sabbath shouldn't have sung about Vietnam with "War Pigs"?

Scratch that, they didn't refer to Vietnam by name in 1970, but everyone knew what they were talking about.

Nope, they should sing about flying butterflies and daisies

James"Thunder"Early · 05-29-2005, 08:37 PM

Musicians have sang songs about political issue before and it's fine, but the line must be drawn somewhere and this awards show shouldn't be used as a political venue.

05-29-2005, 01:49 PM	#1
Janice Administrator Forum Celebrity Stormin' Norman Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 34,467	'Nine Inch Nails' Drops Out of MTV Show Over Political Message Nine Inch Nails Drops Out of MTV Show LOS ANGELES (May 28) - Nine Inch Nails dropped out of the MTV Movie Awards after clashing with the network over an image of President Bush the band planned as a performance backdrop. The Bush image was to accompany the song "The Hand That Feeds," which obliquely criticizes the Iraq war. It includes the lyrics: "What if this whole crusade's a charade / And behind it all there's a price to be paid / For the blood on which we dine / Justified in the name of the holy and the divine." MTV said in a statement to its news division that the network was disappointed the industrial rock band would not perform but had been "uncomfortable with their performance being built around a partisan political statement." The Foo Fighters will perform in place of the Trent Reznor-led band at the awards being taped June 4 in Los Angeles. Reznor said in a statement posted on the band's Web site Thursday that the image of the president would have been unaltered and "straightforward." "Apparently, the image of our president is as offensive to MTV as it is to me," he said. Nine Inch Nails' fourth studio album and first in six years, "With Teeth," debuted this month at No. 1 in sales. __________________ God Bless Our Troops

05-29-2005, 01:53 PM	#2
James"Thunder"Early Moderator Whoever's In New England Join Date: Feb 23, 2004 Location: The Apollo Posts: 6,909	There's a time and place for political statements and an awards show is not that place. The band is being unreasonable IMO. __________________ Esther Anderson: Get thee behind me, Satan, but I'm gon' get behind you, 'cause I'm gonna put my foot in your--- Peggy Mitchell: Get outta my pub! You better pray you get the last laugh, it's a kick in the teeth when you don't get it.

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05-29-2005, 03:29 PM	#8
ABlairican Pie Forum Celebrity Viking metal rules. \m/ \m/ Join Date: Dec 12, 2001 Location: Celebrating the holiest holiday of the year, Monday, June 6, as we honor Slayer and all metal, with plenty of pizza, beer, and sacrificial goats. Life is good. Posts: 27,073	Isn't social commentary part of rock and roll? If the song was about a war many people care about, shouldn't he be allowed to sing about it?

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TheGreatPretender Senior Member just because Join Date: May 22, 2004 Location: Trying to think of a creative, witty location. Posts: 7,589	Meh it would be too risque. Another silly controversy nothing changing. But do you honestly think the President would take Nine Inch Nails seriously?

05-29-2005, 05:40 PM	#11
Janice Administrator Forum Celebrity Stormin' Norman Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 34,467	I guess it comes down to being a time and a place for everything. This is a Movie Award event and MTV wants to keep it politically free, perhaps fearing that making political statements will take the focus off the reason for the show. Also, I'm sure that MTV realizes that there are many people who support the President and the war, and they don't want to alienate them. I don't want any band, actor, actress, or anyone shoving their political opinions on me. Good business decision on the part of MTV. They have every right to hire or not hire whomever they want. I'm sure there won't be any bands praising Bush there either.

05-29-2005, 08:37 PM	#15
James"Thunder"Early Moderator Whoever's In New England Join Date: Feb 23, 2004 Location: The Apollo Posts: 6,909	Musicians have sang songs about political issue before and it's fine, but the line must be drawn somewhere and this awards show shouldn't be used as a political venue.