Most Baffling Mystery

[UMfan77]

What do you think has been the most baffling mystery ever shown on UM?

The mystery that mystifies me is the one about Frederick Valentic. He was the young, Australian pilot who disappeared in 1978 while flying his plane. Before he disappeared, he contacted an airport saying that a strange green light was floating around his plane, and at one point the green light got really close and his plane started shaking. Frederick's last radio transmission was "it's hovering and it's not an aircraft". There were eyewitnesses that saw the green thing above the plane. Everyone thought that Frederick had crashed and there was an extensive search for him and nothing was ever found. Some people believe that the green light might of been an UFO and that Frederick was abducted and taken into space.

That case has me really wondering whatever became of Federick Valentic and where he could be.

[crystaldawn]

Wow, thats a great question umfan77! I don't think I can narrow it down to just 1, but here are a few that always baffled me:

Kurt Sova - its been mentioned on the board before. He's the guy that went missing after a party and was found dead in a vacant lot 5 days later (near where the party was) that had already been searched. They couldn't determine what he died from.

Aileen Conway - one of the earliest stories. A housewife and mother who died when her car crashed into a bridge and burst into flames on an isolated road where she had never, or would never have any reason to be. There were a lot of clues at home to indicate she left abruptly although her purse was still there.

Arnold Archambeau & Ruby Bruguier - the couple who after partying one night had a car accident. Their passenger escaped unharmed but Ruby and Arnold weren't found until 3 months later in an area that had already been searched and were in very different stages of decomposition. A friend claims to have seen Arnold in the months after the accident and passed a polygraph on that fact. Very strange!

Franklin Delano Floyd - the whole story of when he abducted the little boy Michael that he claimed was his son (dna tests said differently) and the girl Sharon that he tried to pass off as his daughter and then later married her! I'm reading the book about this case right now and its very interesting! Even though Sharon was killed in a suspicious accident in 1990, they continue to try and match her dna with other missing children in hopes that they can find out who she really is.

[UMfan77]

Those are very baffling stories, especially the Curt Sova one. The whole scenario about not being able to determine his cause of death is unbelievable. A 17 year old boy doesn't just turn up dead, founl play was probably involved. The fact that he had been missing for 5 days makes it even more suspicious. A record store worked had spoken to a unknown man about Kurt being missing and that he would turn up dead, which was what exactly happened. Too bad that the unknown man can't be found for questioning, maybe he killed Kurt. This case has been unsolved for over 20 years!

[nohwheregirl]

Originally posted by crystaldawn
Arnold Archambeau & Ruby Bruguier ....

Franklin Delano Floyd ....

Both of these cases seriously creep me out. It's so frustrating just thinking about them! What's the name of the book you're reading on FDF, crystaldawn? I'd love to pick it up.

I'd like to add a subcategory of "Most baffling cases that we thought would never ever get solved, but did!" and kick it off with the Beverly McGowan case.

[crystaldawn]

Hey! The name of the book is "A Beautiful Child" by Matt Birkbeck. It just came out in September.

My story to put in your subcategory would be the Gayle Delano story. She traveled all the way to Alabama from Maine and went to a hotel under an assumed name and committed suicide. One of guys in the coroner's office happened to be watching UM and said she resembled an unidentified Jane Doe that they had. What are the chances?! Good thing UM is out there!

[ddelta]

What about the one recently where the woman met her husband in Philadelphia, PA...when he was on business...she set out to sightsee and is found months later dead in North Carolina. I just don't get why she was there...numerous store clerks had seen her in NC on her own adn fine and the police suspect that she was leaving her husband and then met with foul play. I didn't get her not letting her daughter know if this was the case. I felt so bad for both her daughter and husband.

[mikeiscool]

The most baffling case that I have seen on UM has been the Keith Warren case, about the young black man whose murder was ruled a suicide but evidence found by his mother and sister proved that it could have been a murder. The creepy thing was how his friend Mark Findlay died in a so-called "biking" accident just as he was about to give Keith's mother some info about Keith's murder. Does anyone know if any new info has come about on that case?

[Blackout]

Originally Posted by UMfan77

What do you think has been the most baffling mystery ever shown on UM?

The mystery that mystifies me is the one about Frederick Valentic. He was the young, Australian pilot who disappeared in 1978 while flying his plane. Before he disappeared, he contacted an airport saying that a strange green light was floating around his plane, and at one point the green light got really close and his plane started shaking. Frederick's last radio transmission was "it's hovering and it's not an aircraft". There were eyewitnesses that saw the green thing above the plane. Everyone thought that Frederick had crashed and there was an extensive search for him and nothing was ever found. Some people believe that the green light might of been an UFO and that Frederick was abducted and taken into space.

That case has me really wondering whatever became of Federick Valentic and where he could be.

yeah that was a puzzling case, I also read a theory that the "UFO" might have pulled him so close that his entire plane was disintigrated into dust, although that seems damn near impossible

[SitcomsAreTheWay]

Originally Posted by mikeiscool

The most baffling case that I have seen on UM has been the Keith Warren case, about the young black man whose murder was ruled a suicide but evidence found by his mother and sister proved that it could have been a murder. The creepy thing was how his friend Mark Findlay died in a so-called "biking" accident just as he was about to give Keith's mother some info about Keith's murder. Does anyone know if any new info has come about on that case?

As far as I know, no new info has surfaced regarding this case. I think it's extremely ridiculous how the police have repeatedly avoided looking further into it. Those chemicals, in which were found in his system, and the high amounts of them were unbelievable. I think one of them happened to have been embalming fluid.

Regarding Mark Findley, I'm unsure as to whether he truly died as a result of a biking accident or he was murdered because some way, some how someone found out that he was intending to, as HE put it, "unload". However it IS strange that he died before he could do so.

[keith warren]

I’m a very good friend of the Warren family and on behalf of his mom and sister they would like to say thank you for your on going concern. As far as this situation is concerned.... every year Montgomery county prosecutor office requests that both Keith mom and sister come and make a statement with regard to the case. The case is now open but inactive. Which in other words means unless Keith comes back from the grave or someone comes forward, this case will never be solved. It is unfortunate that the family has to endure this abuse but there is no other solution.

[Kane]

[quote=keith warren]The case is now open but inactive. Which in other words means unless Keith comes back from the grave or someone comes forward, this case will never be solved.QUOTE]

Never say never. Being inactive doesn't necessarily mean that the case would never be solved. Nevertheless, it appears that the best hope is if someone comes forward with information.

It is terrible that Keith Warren's family has been suffering for nearly 19 years without any answers to what really happened. It's bad enough that they lost a loved one. But the fact they have been given the runaround has only made it worse.

[dynoguy88]

I think the Keith Warren case is the perfect example of police being in complete denial over the cause of death. I guess it's just easier for them to sweep it under the rug as a suicide instead of actually working on a murder investigation, and that sickens me. It would be one thing to investigate the case as a murder and not come up with any suspects but it's completely different to put no effort into an investigation at all. At least you would be doing something and bringing some kind of justice to Keith's family. It just floors me that the police refuse to believe anything but suicide and keep fighting the possibility of homicide despite the number of facts that were discussed during the UM segment.

Maybe if they could picture themselves in Mrs. Warren's shoes and lose their child under suspicious circumstances made out to look like a suicide, something might be done. Sometimes, it's about the connections. What a joke.

[nohwheregirl]

Originally Posted by keith warren

I’m a very good friend of the Warren family and on behalf of his mom and sister they would like to say thank you for your on going concern. As far as this situation is concerned.... every year Montgomery county prosecutor office requests that both Keith mom and sister come and make a statement with regard to the case. The case is now open but inactive. Which in other words means unless Keith comes back from the grave or someone comes forward, this case will never be solved. It is unfortunate that the family has to endure this abuse but there is no other solution.

Thanks so much for posting. Keith's case has always really bothered me because of what his family has been put through, but also because it seems so unnecessary that they still don't have answers after all these years. It's the most frustrating kind of case to hear about because it would be solved if the police had just done their job in the first place. It's shameful. I hope you and Keith's family are able to find some peace.

[toddjharp]

Anyone remember the case of Roger Dean who was murdered in his own home while his wife was tied up upstairs? There never was an update and the family seemed to have no idea who might have done that.

I also remember the Aileen Conway case, but I only saw it once several years back and was unable to find anything about it on the Net.

[dynoguy88]

...Well, to add insult to injury regarding the Roger Dean case, 5 years after he killed Roger, he starting sending threatening letters to his wife D.J. and their daughter Tammy. He wanted $500,000 or he would kill again.

The killer really knew how to torture D.J. Dean and tragedy was not new to her. A few years eariler, her son was killed in a car accident. Within a few months another car accident took the lives of her parents. Then, of course, the killer gunned down her husband. Now he wanted the money or else he would kill Tammy, her last surviving relative.

Police and FBI agents moved into the Dean house, but the killer never struck. This all happened in Littleton, Colorado. Littleton, as we all know, is famous for the tragic Columbine shootings.