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Jenya · 10-15-2004, 02:44 PM

'Pit Bulls - Banned,' Ontario Says
Current owners may keep pets but they must be leashed, muzzled, neutered or spayed, legislation will say

CANADIAN PRESS

October 15, 2004

Outrage over a spate of vicious pit bull attacks across Ontario this summer has prompted the province to ban the breed with a bad reputation.

"Pit bulls - banned," Attorney General Michael Bryant said today as he announced that legislation would be introduced within a month, the first such provincial law in Canada.

"We are banning pit bulls in Ontario."

If passed, the proposed legislation would allow current owners of the fierce, squat dogs to keep their pets, but they will face ``severe restrictions."

"They will be muzzled, they must be leashed and they must be neutered or spayed," Bryant said.

Under the new law, fines would double to $10,000 and jail sentences of up to six months would be allowed for irresponsible owners of all dog breeds.

The move follows several months of informal meetings between Bryant and groups on either side of the pit bull debate.

Bryant said he's heard enough to be convinced the dogs are ``ticking time bombs" and "inherently dangerous animals."

"For every family that tells me their pit bull is a pussycat, I'd like to introduce them to the family in Sudbury who regretted that judgment," Bryant said during an impassioned speech.

"I'd like to introduce people who say pit bulls are like any other dog to the mother in Etobicoke who was playing in her backyard with her kids and her pet only to have the neighbouring pit bull knock her fence over and the 150-pound beast charged her kids."

A number of serious attacks in the province prompted Bryant's consultations, including one "that horrified Ontarians" when two dogs severely mauled a Toronto man.

The man was "practically eaten alive from the ankles up," Bryant said.

"Police officers had to use more than a dozen bullets to put these pit bulls down. These are dangerous animals - enough is enough," he said.

"We cannot have these animals walking the streets, the fields or the family rooms of Ontario."

Louise Ellis, whose now 15-year-old daughter Lauren still bears the scars where she was bitten in the face by a pit bull when she was five, said banning the dogs is the only way to ensure they can't attack more people.

"It's the right thing do," she said.

The legislation would make it easier for animal control officials and police to obtain a warrant to enter premises where a dangerous dog has been reported, Bryant said.

Liz White, director of Animal Alliance, said all dangerous dogs should be dealt with, not just pit bulls.

White questioned how the ban and restrictions on the pit bull breed will be enforced, suggesting it just won't work.

"I think this is really just a bad piece of legislation," she said. "I think it could be fixed up by taking the pit bull ban out and just dealing with dangerous animals."

A large number of dogs that pose a threat to public safety are those used by criminals as protection, not family pets, White said.

"To ban every single pit bull is not the way to go."

White said it's also difficult to determine exactly what constitutes a pit bull, since it's a crossbreed. She fears that innocent animals will be turned in to animal shelters and will have to be euthanized.

Bryant denied that will happen. He said he believes most pit bull owners don't want to give up their dogs and that hasn't been the experience in other jurisdictions that have implemented a ban.

In Ontario, a number of municipalities, including Kitchener and Windsor, have banned pit bulls. Winnipeg also has a ban on the breed.

Bryant said similar bans are in place in France, Britain and Germany.

SOURCE: Toronto Star

James"Thunder"Early · 10-15-2004, 02:47 PM

smart idea, these dogs are too dangerous to keep as pets

I am Him · 10-15-2004, 03:00 PM

ABlairican Pie · 10-15-2004, 03:11 PM

I feel like I live on the pit bull crapitol of the West Coast, everyone seems to love the hell out of these monsters because of their "outlaw" status--all the "bad boys" got to have'em. I say get them the hell out of here, let's get some family-friendly dogs around.

I got bit by a rambunctious dog almost 20 years ago, and I can't imagine what it would be like if these beasts attacked a child or an elderly or ill person.

Golden Retrievers
Cocker Spaniels
Cairns
Lhasa Apsos

all work great.

Chambers · 10-15-2004, 03:18 PM

I'm glad they're letting owners keep their pets. The restrictions will hopefully be enough so that they don't have to kill off these animals. Although...they are essentially killing them off by having them neutered or spayed. It's obviously not a perfect piece of legislation, but I guess it's good enough for now.

Jenya · 10-15-2004, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by Chambers
I'm glad they're letting owners keep their pets. The restrictions will hopefully be enough so that they don't have to kill off these animals. Although...they are essentially killing them off by having them neutered or spayed. It's obviously not a perfect piece of legislation, but I guess it's good enough for now.

I'm wondering if some owners will challenge this new law in the Ontario Supreme Court. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens real soon.

Brian · 10-15-2004, 05:44 PM

Last weekend I played with a Pit Bull and I swear they are extremely muscular. The one I was with was a female and a good one. But if there was a mean one with similar characteristics there's no telling what it would do.

The Modfather · 10-15-2004, 06:03 PM

Im glad, I live in Ontario and I'm sick of hearing of all the pit bull attacks in Toronto. Its terrible

Jenya · 10-15-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by The Modfather
Im glad, I live in Ontario and I'm sick of hearing of all the pit bull attacks in Toronto. Its terrible

Hey! How did you ban yourself?

I want to try something.

Brian · 10-15-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Jenya
Hey! How did you ban yourself?

He changed his user title (the words below his user name)

Jenya · 10-15-2004, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Brian
He changed his user title (the words below his user name)

Dammit!!

It won't make myself a Moderator here. It worked on the other board..

robyrob · 10-15-2004, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Brian
He changed his user title (the words below his user name)

when i changed mine to "banned" about a year ago it got reset like 2 days

barwars · 10-15-2004, 08:36 PM

Wow, Canadians actually do something smart for once.

Jrnygrl · 10-15-2004, 09:07 PM

I'm glad the Canadians are stopping the owning of these devil dogs.

Just recently two pits attacked a cat in my neighbors driveway. I mean they just tore this cat apart. No one dare stop them because of the fear of being attacked.

And just about three weeks ago a woman in Calif. was sitting in her car, waiting for her friend to run an errand. The woman had a small dog sitting in her lap. She did not live in the area so she was not aware that there was a pitbull, that jumped a fence, then jumped into her car to attack the little dog, but the little dog got away and the pitbull attacked the woman. Once again no one could come to her rescue for fear of the dog. And the owner of the dog had the nerve to say it was the womans fault that the dog attacked her. Now I ask you if I am sitting, not moving minding my own business and a dog attacks me is that my fault?????

I say hooray for Canada!!!!!

The Modfather · 10-15-2004, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by barwars
Wow, Canadians actually do something smart for once.

You sir, are an ass.

10-15-2004, 02:44 PM	#1
Jenya Senior Member Supervisor Join Date: Apr 20, 2003 Location: Canmore, Alberta Posts: 3,341	Pit Bulls Banned in Ontario! 'Pit Bulls - Banned,' Ontario Says Current owners may keep pets but they must be leashed, muzzled, neutered or spayed, legislation will say CANADIAN PRESS October 15, 2004 Outrage over a spate of vicious pit bull attacks across Ontario this summer has prompted the province to ban the breed with a bad reputation. "Pit bulls - banned," Attorney General Michael Bryant said today as he announced that legislation would be introduced within a month, the first such provincial law in Canada. "We are banning pit bulls in Ontario." If passed, the proposed legislation would allow current owners of the fierce, squat dogs to keep their pets, but they will face ``severe restrictions." "They will be muzzled, they must be leashed and they must be neutered or spayed," Bryant said. Under the new law, fines would double to $10,000 and jail sentences of up to six months would be allowed for irresponsible owners of all dog breeds. The move follows several months of informal meetings between Bryant and groups on either side of the pit bull debate. Bryant said he's heard enough to be convinced the dogs are ``ticking time bombs" and "inherently dangerous animals." "For every family that tells me their pit bull is a pussycat, I'd like to introduce them to the family in Sudbury who regretted that judgment," Bryant said during an impassioned speech. "I'd like to introduce people who say pit bulls are like any other dog to the mother in Etobicoke who was playing in her backyard with her kids and her pet only to have the neighbouring pit bull knock her fence over and the 150-pound beast charged her kids." A number of serious attacks in the province prompted Bryant's consultations, including one "that horrified Ontarians" when two dogs severely mauled a Toronto man. The man was "practically eaten alive from the ankles up," Bryant said. "Police officers had to use more than a dozen bullets to put these pit bulls down. These are dangerous animals - enough is enough," he said. "We cannot have these animals walking the streets, the fields or the family rooms of Ontario." Louise Ellis, whose now 15-year-old daughter Lauren still bears the scars where she was bitten in the face by a pit bull when she was five, said banning the dogs is the only way to ensure they can't attack more people. "It's the right thing do," she said. The legislation would make it easier for animal control officials and police to obtain a warrant to enter premises where a dangerous dog has been reported, Bryant said. Liz White, director of Animal Alliance, said all dangerous dogs should be dealt with, not just pit bulls. White questioned how the ban and restrictions on the pit bull breed will be enforced, suggesting it just won't work. "I think this is really just a bad piece of legislation," she said. "I think it could be fixed up by taking the pit bull ban out and just dealing with dangerous animals." A large number of dogs that pose a threat to public safety are those used by criminals as protection, not family pets, White said. "To ban every single pit bull is not the way to go." White said it's also difficult to determine exactly what constitutes a pit bull, since it's a crossbreed. She fears that innocent animals will be turned in to animal shelters and will have to be euthanized. Bryant denied that will happen. He said he believes most pit bull owners don't want to give up their dogs and that hasn't been the experience in other jurisdictions that have implemented a ban. In Ontario, a number of municipalities, including Kitchener and Windsor, have banned pit bulls. Winnipeg also has a ban on the breed. Bryant said similar bans are in place in France, Britain and Germany. SOURCE: Toronto Star __________________ Head-On...Apply directly to the Forehead! Head-On...Apply directly to the Forehead! Head-On...Apply directly to the Forehead! *Head-ON is available without a Prescription

10-15-2004, 02:47 PM	#2
James"Thunder"Early Moderator Whoever's In New England Join Date: Feb 23, 2004 Location: The Apollo Posts: 6,909	smart idea, these dogs are too dangerous to keep as pets __________________ Esther Anderson: Get thee behind me, Satan, but I'm gon' get behind you, 'cause I'm gonna put my foot in your--- Peggy Mitchell: Get outta my pub! You better pray you get the last laugh, it's a kick in the teeth when you don't get it.

10-15-2004, 03:11 PM	#4
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Chambers Senior Member The Crane Trinity Join Date: Apr 27, 2004 Location: Where everybody knows a Crane. Posts: 4,917	I'm glad they're letting owners keep their pets. The restrictions will hopefully be enough so that they don't have to kill off these animals. Although...they are essentially killing them off by having them neutered or spayed. It's obviously not a perfect piece of legislation, but I guess it's good enough for now. __________________ Member of the "God, Lilith is so ing cool" Fan Club Where everybody knows your tossed salads and scrambled eggs. FREEDOM OF THOUGHT blank

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10-15-2004, 05:44 PM	#7
Brian Forum Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 23, 2001 Posts: 20,353	Last weekend I played with a Pit Bull and I swear they are extremely muscular. The one I was with was a female and a good one. But if there was a mean one with similar characteristics there's no telling what it would do.

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barwars Forum Veteran DELETE THIS, PLEASE. Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 10,499	Wow, Canadians actually do something smart for once.

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Jrnygrl Senior Member Member Join Date: Nov 02, 2003 Location: wheel in the sky Posts: 4,517	I'm glad the Canadians are stopping the owning of these devil dogs. Just recently two pits attacked a cat in my neighbors driveway. I mean they just tore this cat apart. No one dare stop them because of the fear of being attacked. And just about three weeks ago a woman in Calif. was sitting in her car, waiting for her friend to run an errand. The woman had a small dog sitting in her lap. She did not live in the area so she was not aware that there was a pitbull, that jumped a fence, then jumped into her car to attack the little dog, but the little dog got away and the pitbull attacked the woman. Once again no one could come to her rescue for fear of the dog. And the owner of the dog had the nerve to say it was the womans fault that the dog attacked her. Now I ask you if I am sitting, not moving minding my own business and a dog attacks me is that my fault????? I say hooray for Canada!!!!!

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