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hugmonster · 05-04-2004, 01:43 AM

I was ripped off and want to warn others. Do I need permission, or can I just post a bad trader alert?

Agent 13 · 05-04-2004, 11:58 AM

Hugmonster,

By all means post your bad trading experiences. A person is a bad trader if you've already sent tapes/payment and you haven't received their end of the deal, or they didn't send all of what was agreed upon, or they didn't make right a misunderstanding or technical problem.

A person is not a bad trader simply because they didn't answer your email.

And a person is not a bad trader if they backed out of an agreement without any tapes/money being exchanged.

In order to be taken seriously, you must be specific in your complaint, without ranting and raving, and be willing to reveal some of yourself (anonymous posting is not a good idea). Of course, posting false accusations is not acceptable and eventually backfires.

Post his/her name, all known email addresses, the name of his/her town/state.

It's not always easy to know what is appropriate, but if your post crosses the line of appropriateness, your post(s) may be edited.

Jen

hugmonster · 05-04-2004, 12:48 PM

Thanks Jen. People definitely need to be warned about this person...

Jenny Boyce, beyondthemoon101@yahoo.com, of Wellsville, Ohio is a bad trader/thief. On February 28, 2004 she posted a reply on a Yahoo group claiming that she had all the episodes of the sitcom "Champs" as well as the 2000 TV Guide Awards. Her post can be viewed at this link: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/tv-...g/message/662. She and I emailed back and forth to set up the transaction and I sent her a money order for $24.50 to cover the cost of 3 tapes and shipping. I received 3 tapes from her on March 10, 2004, but they were all blank--nothing but static. I have emailed her numerous times to attempt to resolve the problem and have only received auto-responses. I posted a message on the Yahoo group as an attempt to contact her, and got no response. Finally, I sent her a snail mail letter, via certified mail, which was delivered to her address on April 19, 2004. In the letter, I gave her three options to resolve the problem: 1. Send me new tapes with the shows on them that work properly. I said I would return the blank tapes to her once I received the replacements. 2. Send her master tapes to another trader who would then copy them to DVD and return Jenny's originals
to her within a week. Or... 3. Refund my payment. I also gave her
a very reasonable deadline of May 3, 2004 as the day she needed to contact me by to let me know which option she was choosing, and that she could contact me via email or she could send me or the other trader the tapes. I told her that if I did not hear from her by then that I would feel I had done everything in my power to contact her and that I would post bad trader notices about her so that others would not have the same problem that I have had with her.

It is now past the deadline, and I have not heard from Jenny at all, nor has she sent the tapes to the other trader. I am posting this to warn everyone about her so that nobody else is ripped off by her. I did not receive the shows she claimed she had, and the 3 blank tapes I received are not worth the $24.50 that I sent her. Please be careful about doing business with her!

dafoe · 05-05-2004, 09:03 AM

You should go to your local
Post Office and file a Mail Fraud Complaint.

The situation you are desdribing is Mail Fraud and it's a federal crime. One that is investigated and prosecuted by Postal and Law Enforcement authorities.

Don't let this "trader" get away with screwing you.

hugmonster · 05-06-2004, 05:03 AM

I just found out that I am not the only one she has ripped off. If you have a trading website, please list her name and info if you are willing to, so that others can be warned.

Agent 13 · 05-06-2004, 12:19 PM

I, for one, appreciate being forewarned of bad traders. It's not always easy to stick your neck out and share bad trading experiences, especially when things gets nasty and the crook turns the tables and accuses the victim(s).

Thank you,

Jen

Lady T · 05-07-2004, 10:07 PM

I was ripped off by this woman myself; she sent me a blank tape with some kind of strange, religious message inside

Be careful of this one....

hugmonster · 05-08-2004, 12:05 AM

Great, now that's at least 3 of us.

I got the religious message also, as did the other person I heard from.

TVFactFan · 05-08-2004, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undercover Angel
I was ripped off by this woman myself; she sent me a blank tape with some kind of strange, religious message inside

Be careful of this one....

what show were you trying to get from her?

jmdunn7 · 05-08-2004, 06:20 PM

You can add me to the list. I paid her 17.50 for Second Noah episodes and received blank tapes also. At first she told me she mailed the tapes and they came back. When I finally did get them they were blank. I emailed her numerous times and either didn't recieve an email or got one saying that due to a family emergency she could be reached her at her cell but no number.

Jennie

tomboy872 · 05-08-2004, 07:42 PM

Hey hugmonster, it's Kristen from the Yahoo Trading group. So I guess, so far, there are four of us who were gypped by Jenny Boyce.

I was ripped off by her as well. I was supposed to get the entire series of JACK AND JILL which, of course, I never got. Instead, I was sent 6 blank tapes, the same religious note, and a little "Have a great day

" on the back of the note. I'm just really pissed that, besides my loss of $46.50, she's gotten other people to fall for her promises as well.

Hoping trading is going well for everyone else,
Kristen

hugmonster · 05-08-2004, 07:50 PM

Quote:

she could be reached her at her cell but no number.

If anyone is interested in bugging her by telephone, do an internet white pages search for "Boyce" in Wellsville, OH and match up her address to the correct listing.

When did all of you send her the money and get ripped off? I'm curious as to whether she's been doing this for awhile or if she just started.

Lady T · 05-08-2004, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
what show were you trying to get from her?

A couple of very hard to find Barney Miller episodes that TV Land refuse to broadcast because they had bombs, and other bad, politically incorrect topics

; but I got these episodes from another person, who is an excellent person to trade and deal with...

Lady T · 05-08-2004, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hugmonster
If anyone is interested in bugging her by telephone, do an internet white pages search for "Boyce" in Wellsville, OH and match up her address to the correct listing.

When did all of you send her the money and get ripped off? I'm curious as to whether she's been doing this for awhile or if she just started.

I sent her a money order back in March; I eventually receive my money back because I reported the money order stolen; but I also recieve the episodes I was looking for from another source.

hugmonster · 05-08-2004, 08:54 PM

Quote:

I eventually receive my money back because I reported the money order stolen;

Really... How did you go about doing that?

If you don't mind me asking, where in Southern Cali are you? I'm in the LA area.

05-04-2004, 01:43 AM	#1
hugmonster Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Nov 04, 2003 Posts: 39	Can I post a bad trader alert here?/Beware of Jenny Boyce I was ripped off and want to warn others. Do I need permission, or can I just post a bad trader alert? Last edited by hugmonster : 05-05-2004 at 01:52 AM.

05-04-2004, 11:58 AM	#2
Agent 13 Senior Member Member Join Date: Feb 02, 2003 Location: Good ol' USA Posts: 1,491	Hugmonster, By all means post your bad trading experiences. A person is a bad trader if you've already sent tapes/payment and you haven't received their end of the deal, or they didn't send all of what was agreed upon, or they didn't make right a misunderstanding or technical problem. A person is not a bad trader simply because they didn't answer your email. And a person is not a bad trader if they backed out of an agreement without any tapes/money being exchanged. In order to be taken seriously, you must be specific in your complaint, without ranting and raving, and be willing to reveal some of yourself (anonymous posting is not a good idea). Of course, posting false accusations is not acceptable and eventually backfires. Post his/her name, all known email addresses, the name of his/her town/state. It's not always easy to know what is appropriate, but if your post crosses the line of appropriateness, your post(s) may be edited. Jen __________________ It often requires more courage to dare to do right than to fear to do wrong. Abraham Lincoln Last edited by Agent 13 : 05-04-2004 at 06:39 PM.

05-04-2004, 12:48 PM	#3
hugmonster Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Nov 04, 2003 Posts: 39	Beware of Jenny Boyce, aka beyondthemoon101 Thanks Jen. People definitely need to be warned about this person... Jenny Boyce, beyondthemoon101@yahoo.com, of Wellsville, Ohio is a bad trader/thief. On February 28, 2004 she posted a reply on a Yahoo group claiming that she had all the episodes of the sitcom "Champs" as well as the 2000 TV Guide Awards. Her post can be viewed at this link: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/tv-...g/message/662. She and I emailed back and forth to set up the transaction and I sent her a money order for $24.50 to cover the cost of 3 tapes and shipping. I received 3 tapes from her on March 10, 2004, but they were all blank--nothing but static. I have emailed her numerous times to attempt to resolve the problem and have only received auto-responses. I posted a message on the Yahoo group as an attempt to contact her, and got no response. Finally, I sent her a snail mail letter, via certified mail, which was delivered to her address on April 19, 2004. In the letter, I gave her three options to resolve the problem: 1. Send me new tapes with the shows on them that work properly. I said I would return the blank tapes to her once I received the replacements. 2. Send her master tapes to another trader who would then copy them to DVD and return Jenny's originals to her within a week. Or... 3. Refund my payment. I also gave her a very reasonable deadline of May 3, 2004 as the day she needed to contact me by to let me know which option she was choosing, and that she could contact me via email or she could send me or the other trader the tapes. I told her that if I did not hear from her by then that I would feel I had done everything in my power to contact her and that I would post bad trader notices about her so that others would not have the same problem that I have had with her. It is now past the deadline, and I have not heard from Jenny at all, nor has she sent the tapes to the other trader. I am posting this to warn everyone about her so that nobody else is ripped off by her. I did not receive the shows she claimed she had, and the 3 blank tapes I received are not worth the $24.50 that I sent her. Please be careful about doing business with her! Last edited by hugmonster : 05-05-2004 at 01:51 AM.

05-08-2004, 06:20 PM	#10
jmdunn7 Frequent Poster Member Join Date: May 20, 2003 Posts: 66	Me Also You can add me to the list. I paid her 17.50 for Second Noah episodes and received blank tapes also. At first she told me she mailed the tapes and they came back. When I finally did get them they were blank. I emailed her numerous times and either didn't recieve an email or got one saying that due to a family emergency she could be reached her at her cell but no number. Jennie

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05-05-2004, 09:03 AM	#4
dafoe Occasional Poster Member Join Date: Mar 24, 2002 Posts: 16	You should go to your local Post Office and file a Mail Fraud Complaint. The situation you are desdribing is Mail Fraud and it's a federal crime. One that is investigated and prosecuted by Postal and Law Enforcement authorities. Don't let this "trader" get away with screwing you.

05-06-2004, 05:03 AM	#5
hugmonster Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Nov 04, 2003 Posts: 39	I just found out that I am not the only one she has ripped off. If you have a trading website, please list her name and info if you are willing to, so that others can be warned.

05-06-2004, 12:19 PM	#6
Agent 13 Senior Member Member Join Date: Feb 02, 2003 Location: Good ol' USA Posts: 1,491	I, for one, appreciate being forewarned of bad traders. It's not always easy to stick your neck out and share bad trading experiences, especially when things gets nasty and the crook turns the tables and accuses the victim(s). Thank you, Jen

05-07-2004, 10:07 PM	#7
Lady T Forum Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 20, 2003 Posts: 17,265	I was ripped off by this woman myself; she sent me a blank tape with some kind of strange, religious message inside Be careful of this one....

05-08-2004, 12:05 AM	#8
hugmonster Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Nov 04, 2003 Posts: 39	Great, now that's at least 3 of us. I got the religious message also, as did the other person I heard from.

05-08-2004, 07:42 PM	#11
tomboy872 Occasional Poster Five By Five Join Date: Apr 11, 2004 Location: New York Posts: 20	Hey hugmonster, it's Kristen from the Yahoo Trading group. So I guess, so far, there are four of us who were gypped by Jenny Boyce. I was ripped off by her as well. I was supposed to get the entire series of JACK AND JILL which, of course, I never got. Instead, I was sent 6 blank tapes, the same religious note, and a little "Have a great day " on the back of the note. I'm just really pissed that, besides my loss of $46.50, she's gotten other people to fall for her promises as well. Hoping trading is going well for everyone else, Kristen