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Old 02-26-2014, 11:38 AM   #16
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Maybe Missouri should be nicknamed "The Outlaw State"?


That was the nickname back in those days,I'm trying to resurrect it.
There was a Governor's convention back in 1881 and one of the east coast Governors asked our Governor, " What the Hell is the matter with your state? " " How is a bankrobber allowed to have a 12 year career? " I guess our governor got embarrassed because later that year he paid Bob Ford to kill Jesse James. Missouri was also known as " The Jackass State " like the old saying " Stubborn as a Missouri mule " all the years I have lived here I only saw one jackass and that was at a carnival. Unless they're talking about the 2-legged ones.
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The Texas gunfighter Clay Allison moved to Sedalia Missouri in 1877 and shortly after that to Kansas where he is said to have had a run in with Wyatt Earp, according to Earp anyway. Allison's daughters were born in Missouri.

Some other info on Clay Allison;

He received a medical discharge from the army for a condition the doctors called " Partly epileptic, Partly maniacal " due to a head injury when he was a little boy. Once while visiting a dentist in Wyoming the dentist drilled the wrong tooth so Allison went to another dentist to get it repaired. He went back to the original dentist, pinned him down and yanked out one of the dentist's teeth with a pair of pliers. Clay Allison died when he fell off a buckboard and the wagon wheel crushed his skull.

More Missouri outlaws;

Arthur McCoy 1825-1880 b.Ireland moved to St.Louis Missouri (James gang)

Donnie Pence 1847-1896 b.Clay county Missouri (James gang)

Joe Howard ? Outlaw lynched in Franklin Missouri 1873

John Younger 1851-1874 b.Missouri (James gang)

Charlie Pitts 1848-1876 b.Lee's Summit Missouri (James gang)

Clel Miller 1849-1876 b.Clay county Missouri (James gang)

Fletcher Taylor died 1916 b.Missouri (James gang)

Oliver Shepherd 1842-1868 b.Missouri (James gang)

John Jarrette 1836-1891 b.Kentucky moved to Missouri (James gang)

Joab Perry 1836-? b. Jackson county Missouri (James gang)

Tucker Bassham ? b.Jackson county Missouri (James gang)
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I discovered another Earp, George Washington Earp (1864-1960) b.Missouri.
He was a cousin of Wyatt and also a lawman. He lived long enough to see the Wyatt Earp tv series, wonder what he thought of it?

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/we-lawmenlist-e.html


Did you know that in 1863 John Wilkes Booth was arrested in St.Louis for making treasonous remarks about the government? He was also in a play that the Lincolns attended and gave Lincoln the creeps by shaking his finger at him while delivering his lines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilkes_Booth


I read the bio of the real Grizzly Adams, This guy sure had his share of bad luck.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_%22Grizzly%22_Adams
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Sam Hildebrand (1836-1872) b. Missouri

This guy's brother went to enlist in the Union army and they turned him over to some vigilantes who lynched him and threw his body into a sink hole. He goes nuts and joins the Confederate Guerrillas and goes on a killing spree that tops Bloody Bill Anderson.

http://carrollscorner.net/SAM_HILDEBRAND_STORY.htm


http://dailyjournalonline.com/news/l...9bb2963f4.html


Here is some more lunacy that went on back then,

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/mo-slickerwar.html
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I found this photo gallery on the internet with pictures of famous people from the old west.Some of them are not who they are supposed to be, like the Billy The Kid,Jesse James,Doc Holliday group photo. They all look the same age, what do you think? There are some pictures of Perry Samuel (The black step-brother of Jesse James.) I knew there was such a person and wondered if he rode with the James Gang until I saw the picture, He looks about 6-7 years old. He did alright for himself, started his own school near Kansas City and Jesse helped fund it (With stolen money no doubt but it was the thought that counts) I still have not come across any pictures of Sim Younger, Cole Younger's black uncle, But I did find him listed in a will of Cole Younger's grandfather who left him 400 acres of land in St.Clair Missouri and a trust fund set up for him to attend the best college he could get into. There are a lot of pictures on this site.

http://theellisoncollection.com/gallery.php?gid=85
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THE LONG RIDERS and THE GREAT NORTHFIELD MINNESOTA RAID are a couple of movies that depicted the James/Younger debacle in Minnesota in 1876. Cole Younger was shot 11 times, one bullet struck him in the back of the head and lodged just above his eye, They had been in a cold swamp so long that when they removed his boots his toenails fell off. Even with all that pain he was laughing and joking with the spectators as they wheeled them down the street in a wagon. He lived another 40 years. Here is a better description about the raid than the movies gave.


http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/jamesyo...ng/hanska.html
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This is one way to ruin a picnic.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mo...d_article1.htm
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How did people in Missouri handle crooked officials back in 1872?

GUNN CITY MASSACRE (Cass county, Mo 1872)

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.an...ssincident.htm



Another Missouri Bushwhacker

http://www.moozark.com/alf-bolin-mad...gerous-to-know
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Some more massacres from around here. What constitutes a massacre anyway? More than two deaths?

ST.LOUIS MASSACRE

http://www.coffeecamp.net/stlouis_massacre


YOUNG BROTHERS MISSOURI MASSACRE

http://rehtwogunraconteur.com/?=11023


KANSAS CITY MASSACRE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_massacre


LAWRENCE MASSACRE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Massacre


EAST ST.LOUIS MASSACRE

http://www.massacre1917.freeservers.com/


HAUN'S HILL MASSACRE

http://restorationbookstore.org/prints/haunsmill.htm


THE PALMYRA MASSACRE

http://genealogytrails.com/mo/marion...y_massacre.htm


THE LONE JACK MASSACRE

http://genforum.genealogy.com/melung...ges/14417.html


OSCEOLA MASSACRE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacking_0f_Osceola



Have you ever been on any of those Genealogy sites where people are looking for information about being related to famous people? I have been using those sites to get info on these old west people that I have been researching. Someone will post a question saying they think they are related to Kid Curry on their mother's side and will get a dozen replies from people who also claim to be related and they will have a family reunion right there on the webpage. They almost seem disappointed when they find out they are not related to some murderous psychopath. Just to find out what kind of response I would get I lied and said I might be related to Mark Twain on my Father's side. I checked back a month later and found that I received one reply, It was a short one, " WHO CARES? " To the best of my knowledge I am not related to any famous outlaws or serial killers but I am related to the Molly Maguires of Pennsylvania. I bet very few people west of the Mississippi even know who they were. I guess I should be happy for that.
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A couple of those links didn't work so I am posting different ones.

OSCEOLA MASSACRE

http://www.rulen.com/partisan/osceola.htm


POTTAWATOMIE CREEK MASSACRE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottawatomie_Massacre


YOUNG BROTHERS MASSACRE (BROOKLINE MASSACRE)

http://www.nleomf.org/museum/news/ne...an-2-1932.html

(In case the link above does not work it's about 6 cops getting killed trying to flush 2 Missouri hillbillies out of a house back in 1932.)

This last link is one of the more famous massacres during the civil war.

CENTRALIA MASSACRE

http://www.civilwaronthewesternborde...alia-massacre1
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Long before the western outlaws we had pirates all along the rivers. They operated from caves and islands and would attack boats as they navigated the Missouri and Mississippi rivers. When the western outlaws died out we had gangsters,every city had them. Just google the name of your city and gang history, these are some of the ones I came up with.

THE PILLOW GANG (The name originated from their leader who had been shot in the butt and carried a pillow with him where ever he went.)

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangster...s/louis/2.html

THE BOTTOMS GANG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottoms_Gang


THE HOGAN GANG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan_Gang


GUS WINKLER (1901-1933) b. Missouri (Typical gang thug)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Winkler


WILBUR UNDERHILL (1901-1934) b. Missouri (Notorious bankrobber)

http://www.babyfacenelsonjournal.com...underhill.html
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ROY GARDNER (1884-1940) b.Missouri
This guy led an interesting life even if it was criminal. He started off running guns down in Mexico during their revolution and was caught and scheduled to be shot by firing squad but escaped and fled back to the U.S. He then became a sparring partner for Heavyweight Champ James J.Jeffries. Next he took up robbing trains,by himself, that was unheard of. The only one he ever killed was himself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Gardner_(bank_robber)


I came across this next guy looking over Wikipedia's list of bankrobbers and noticed he was born in Texas in 1911 and was caught robbing a bank in 2003.I thought " What the Hell? "

J.L ROUNTREE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.L._Hunter



While I was reading about that guy listed above I got to thinking about this other old fart in 1930s New York who was counterfeiting crappy looking 1 dollar bills so he could feed himself and his dog and pay his rent. It took the feds 10 years to catch him. His name was Emerich Juettner and there was a movie about him called Mister 880. Here is his story and a short clip from the movie.


http://www.snopes.com/business/money/mister880.asp
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DIRTY DAVE RUDABAUGH

He got the nickname because he seldom bathed. He crossed paths with many of the famous people in the old west. He taught Doc Holliday how to shoot, he was chased by Wyatt Earp,Bat Masterson and Pat Garrett. Billy The Kid said he was the only man he ever feared and yet his main claim to fame was that he stunk. He was smart enough to stay down wind of the posse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rudabaugh

http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/billythekid/dave.html

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/we-daverudabaugh.html
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I found this on the internet.

In the later 1870s after robbing a series of banks,brothers Jesse and Frank James were riding their horses in a pounding rain storm when they spotted a small shack in the Ozarks. They decided to rest their horses and knock on the door. An elderly woman let them in and hung their wet jackets by the fireplace,she then began dishing out some hot stew for the boys. Frank told Jesse, " She reminds me of Momma. " While they were eating she told them she was a widow and in debt and the bank was going to foreclose on her home in the morning because she didn't have $ 800.00 to pay them. They thanked her for the stew and she insisted they stay the night till the rain stopped. When she woke she discovered they were gone and left a note on her table with money. The note read " Ma`am, here is $ 800.00, pay the banker and be sure to get a receipt. " When the banker showed up later she gave him the money and got the receipt. On his way back to town the banker was ambushed by the James brothers and robbed of $800.00.

The story sounds made up to me but you never know. Here is the place where I found it, you have to scroll down to get to it.

http://panachereport.com/LittleKnown.htm
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BEN CRAVEN (1861-1950) b. Missouri

He was whipped by his teacher for being a bad boy so he returned at night and broke out all the school windows and trashed the place. That's where his life of crime began.

http://www.ausbcomp.com/~bbott/cowley/craven.htm

http://www.kaycounty.info/ncoha/stories/carvens.html


POLK WELLS (1851-1896) b. Missouri

He said he was hung twice,stabbed twice and shot 33 times.

http://www.asphistory.com/wells/wells.htm


THE IRISH WILDERNESS

This Irish priest thought he had a good idea. He rounded up 40 poor Irish families from St.Louis and supplied land for them in the Ozarks so they could build their own settlement. They all vanished without a trace. He didn't count on the Bushwackers, He should have paid attention to what happened to the Mormons years before.

http://www.dwightfrizzell.com/IrishW...s/History.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Joseph_Hogan


This guy has a theory why those people acted like that back then.

http://personal.tcu.edu/swoodworth/steward.html
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