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Old 02-22-2016, 06:53 AM   #151
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Hello, you need to watch your mouth you dont know, I am the mother and it was ced and chris that did the crime.


Ms. Young, what is ced up to now?
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Old 02-22-2016, 12:26 PM   #152
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Hello this is Fredericks mother he will be getting out march 19 2016.

Thanks for the update!

I echo RobinW's sentiments. I am also confused at the length of your son's sentence. Despite the obvious question of whether he was the actual guilty party, it seems odd to me that he was given such a long commitment term.

In any case, I am hopeful that upon his release next month, he can start to put his life back together again. I'm assuming he must have appeared before some sort of parole board? I've been looking at his inmate information and it looks as if his projected release date isn't until 2023. I sincerely hope that is not the case...
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Old 02-22-2016, 12:32 PM   #153
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Ms. Young, what is ced up to now?

I'm not Ms. Young, but it looks to me that Cedric is also in prison. Every state's classifications are different, but it looks to me that he's in prison for being a Habitual Felon.
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Old 02-25-2016, 11:15 AM   #154
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It looks like Ced is in prison. Most of his convictions deal with theft and larceny. I hope Fred do get out soon, so he can turn his life around.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:34 PM   #155
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One thing is certain here: One twin is playing the "it was my twin" card. The other twin is legit. Either way either one of Cedric or Frederick are bottom of the barrel rotten human beings. Cedirc would be plain old rotten for allowing his brother to rot for a crime he didn't commit. Frederick would be rotten for not being accountable for his actions and actually convincing legions of people he is the victim.

Here is why I lean towards Frederick being the guilty party

- I'll cut him some slack. He isn't very bright, along the same lines of Tim McClure. Both suspects made some decisions and opened up their mouths which made them look very suspicious. They aren't smart men, but not necessarily guilty men. The problem though that I have is that it took Frederick so long to come up with the conclusion that it could be his brother Cedric involved. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but any twin I meet they are trained from birth to handle a conversation like this:

"Hey I saw you the other day"
"No, it wasn't me, it was my brother, we are identical twins."

In 22 years I am almost certain that Frederick had come upon that conversation no less than 100 times. After all his family members - his own MOTHER - mistakes them so forgive me if I am a little confused as to why Frederick didn't think about being mistaken for Cedric from day one. If you are being tried for a crime you were not involved in, wouldn't you figure right off the bat that your criminal brother was behind it?

- Secondly, Chris Ross was a thug. At least in the UM segment he seemed to think this thing was a big joke. Some people like the publicity. He's in jail too remember, he isn't going to rat out ANOTHER member of his "jail society" he'll attack an outsider. Why? Maybe to be protected, maybe for kicks, but I have a hard time taking the word of a hardened criminal who claims he never said anything "because no one asked him" (his words not mine)

- If there was evidence that Cedric committed the crime we would know about this by now. Apparently there wasn't. Cedric isn't exactly a pillar of the community either, but anything from stolen merchandise to money to guns would have been found on him. They weren't. All we know is that Frederick was in possession of the gun in his car that he "claimed" to have never seen.

- Not only was it stupid to pretend to be your brother at the beginning, but it would be a perfect reason to say something like that AFTER you've committed a series of burglaries. If you had committed a bunch of crimes, got pulled over assuming you'd be arrested wouldn't you try the whole switcheroo thing too?

- Also, the court of public opinion is not the jury. Frederick seemed to have convinced many people of his innocence but he could be just as vicious of a person that he claims Cedric to be. What kind of brother would ruin his other brother's life who is OUTSIDE of prison trying to carry on? My thought is, it would be far easier to be in prison, bitter, resentful and come up with a scheme to finger your twin brother than it would to be on the outside knowing your flesh and blood is suffering on the inside. You would feel far less guilty with the former than the latter.



That's my take, Frederick is where he belongs. It seems their mother is convinced it was Cedric too and I often wonder why. Both of her sons weren't angels. She is going on the word of her one son who initially was a liar and deceitful to start with. I can't imagine how their Thanksgiving dinners would be together.

I know Cedric looked really bad with the whole "crocodile tears" on Geraldo while Frederick was legitimately crying. But who knows, maybe Cedric was TRYING to cry because he was painted out to be the villain but he couldn't cry. If I were innocent and my bro was fingering me I'd be so mad I wouldn't be able to cry. Disgusted if anything.

"I am a little confused as to why Frederick didn't think about being mistaken for Cedric from day one" He hadn't come up with that scheme until later. That is why. Ross was doing it to look like a hero knowing that it likely would not change any outcome while getting attention and possibly being 'taken care of".
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:51 PM   #156
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Yep. His attorney was disbarred for neglecting clients. I don't think he got the best defense at his trial.


His license was suspended, he was not disbarred, according to the segment.

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He actually did get another trial, and Chris Ross actually testified that it was Cedric, not Fred who was his accomplice in the robbery. He was still convicted the 2nd time, though.


A year later the court of appeals agreed to consider new evidence. Ross got on the stand. The judge decided against granting a new trial after the new evidence was presented.

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Old 10-04-2016, 10:00 PM   #158
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I'm sorry I was wrong. Aside from them being in different states, everything else seemed matched up. The whole "I want to bring attention to my case" and the reasons he was in prison (burglary and the possession of a gun) are the same. They have the same name with the unusual spelling. Also, I think they're close in age, although this man may be slightly younger.


Edit: I did some searching and after looking at Fredrick's updated prison photo, I can see they're not the same person now. Both have full lips, but the man who escaped from AK has a large nose. Also, according to his prison record, the AK man does spell his name the usual way: Frederick. The news story spelled it the other way, which is probably why I found it when I Google'd the name. One of his aliases is "Fredrick Young."

It's interesting that both men are due to be released in the year 2023. Fredrick in September and Frederick in October. Both have been in prison since the 1990s. Fredrick is three years older than Frederick, and I had guessed they're close in age.

Fredrick L Young

Frederick L Young

Burglary and robbery are not the same thing. They have theft in common, but are not the same thing.
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Old 10-04-2016, 10:10 PM   #159
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This is an unique Final Appeal case in that there's certainly a plausible case for Fred's innocence but not a great deal of hard EVIDENCE actually supporting his innocence. I think the three biggest points in his favour are:

-Chris Ross claiming Cedric was his real accomplice
-Cedric's "crocodile tears" performance on Geraldo. I'd think that if Cedric was really innocent, he'd be more angry about being falsely accused by his incarcerated brother rather than breaking down into emotional hysterics. I thought Fred's emotions came off a lot more sincerely and he did seem genuinely hurt that his brother was letting him take the rap
-the twins' mother believing Fred instead of Cedric. I know it's common for parents to believe in their children's innocence even when the evidence against them is overwhelming. But in this case, her other son is accused of being the real perpetrator and by siding with Fred, she's pretty much severing her relationship with the one child who's still free and not locked up for the next 60+ years. The fact that the twins' mother has no trouble believing that Cedric is the real perpetrator speaks volumes, IMO

But again, none of these points are definitive proof that Fred didn't commit the crime, so I can why it would be hard to get his sentence overturned. I still learn towards innocence, but I too am bothered by Ross' gun being in the trunk of Fred's car. I'm sure there was no frame-up and it was nothing more than a bad coincidence that Fred was pulled over by the police, but it's still pretty weird that Ross would leave a weapon that he used during a crime there.

Either way, I've always maintained that even Fred committed the crimes, no one was actually hurt, so he should have been released by now anyway.


Let's see how unhurt you feel when a gun is pointed in your face and you don't know whether you're about to be shot in the face.
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Guessing that really was Fred's mother, he was paroled/released 3/19 this year.

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Just think how awful it would be if he was in fact innocent. 20+ years.
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A year later the court of appeals agreed to consider new evidence. Ross got on the stand. The judge decided against granting a new trial after the new evidence was presented.

For reasons unknown, other than he/she didn't believe Chris Ross.
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Yea it would be horrible if he didn't do the crime and his brother actually did. Glad he got paroled early and hope he makes something of himself. He spent almost 25 years in jail and prison. His brother Ced is in prison now and won't get out in a while.


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