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Old 10-22-2002, 02:34 AM   #1
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While watching the 11 o'clock episode of GG tonight I notice that Mammie Watkins refers to Blanche as Blance Marie Hollingsworth. When we all know from the episode where Rose believes Blanche to have slept with Charlie that Blanches initials are BED. Blanche Elizabeth Devereaux. Any other inconsistencies you have noticed lately? I would love to know.
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There are MULTIPLE inconsistencies with the show:

-- Dorothy's age
-- Her children's ages
-- Grandchildren

That's just a few.

You might also look at the "Two characters, One actor" post. There are lots of actors who played two different roles on the show. One main person was Harold Gould -- he originally played "Arnie," a date of Rose's, in an early episode. He then came back a few seasons later to play Miles Webber/Nicholas Carbone, Rose's main squeeze.

That's brings up another inconsistency. Miles was in the Witness Protection Program. When he announced his real name when he thought the Cheeseman died, it totally threw Rose.

However, Miles invited his daughter to visit for his birthday. So, how was this allowed??

There are just a few things...

Good call on Mammy. I knew the BED part, but never put the two together.
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Ok, here are some more insonsistencies. On the pilot episode Charles Levin played a gay cook named Coco, but after that episode Coco was never mentioned again. Also in the pilot episode, Estelle Getty's "Sophia"wig is different from the other episodes. Finally 2 different actresses play Dorothy's sister Gloria. In the episode "The Custody Battle" Gloria is played by a red-headed actress named Doris Belack. But in the episodes Monkey Business 1 and 2, Dena Dietrich a blond haired lady plays Gloria.
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Ok, here are some more insonsistencies. On the pilot episode Charles Levin played a gay cook named Coco, but after that episode Coco was never mentioned again. Also in the pilot episode, Estelle Getty's "Sophia"wig is different from the other episodes. Finally 2 different actresses play Dorothy's sister Gloria. In the episode "The Custody Battle" Gloria is played by a red-headed actress named Doris Belack. But in the episodes Monkey Business 1 and 2, Dena Dietrich a blond haired lady plays Gloria.
About Estelle/Sophia's wig, I believe in the pilot episode, and maybe others? can't remember, you are seeing her actual hair, it's just powdered to look white. Later on, and through the rest of the series, she wears various wigs, covering up her actual hair.

I know the reason Coco/Charles Levin was dropped, but can't explain it, LOL, it had something to do with the kitchen table/cheesecake scenes and Sophia. Sorry, I just really can't remember the reasoning behind writing out Coco except that the writers wanted to just focus on the four women.
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Also, the number of children that Rose and Blanche have always change.
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About Estelle/Sophia's wig, I believe in the pilot episode, and maybe others? can't remember, you are seeing her actual hair, it's just powdered to look white. Later on, and through the rest of the series, she wears various wigs, covering up her actual hair.

I know the reason Coco/Charles Levin was dropped, but can't explain it, LOL, it had something to do with the kitchen table/cheesecake scenes and Sophia. Sorry, I just really can't remember the reasoning behind writing out Coco except that the writers wanted to just focus on the four women.
The part about Sophia's hair is correct...

For Coco -- originally, Sophia was supposed to be a "supporting" character. This is why, during the original first couple seasons, she wasn't featured as much during the credits (at the end of Lifetime's is usually the scene where Dorothy tells the others that "no matter what happens, let's stick together!")

She wasn't supposed to be seen as much as she was, but her opinions attracted audiences, producers and others that they realized her part needed to be capitalized on. So, she was brought in as a man character, and Coco went Gogo.
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"Michael, you're 29 years old!" says Dorothy. Um, Dorothy, weren't you 18 or 19 when you had Michael? That would make you about 48-49. And before that, he was 23. This would make her about 42. I ... don't.....think....so!!! (even "Maude" was 47 years old and into her 50's when the show ended many many years beforehand!)

Angela comes to Miami and hasn't spoken to Sophia for 30 years. Why didn't she mention this to Dorothy? And wouldn't Dorothy notice that her mother and her aunt have not exchanged one lousy phone call or written a letter in 30 years?

And the "Gloria" thing has always bothered me. Gloria was shorter, and as mentioned above, had red hair before. Later she comes back as tall as Dorothy and blonde. OH WELL, I still love the show anyway.

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I was seven when the series began and 14 when it ended. I don't remember when I started watching with my parents on Saturday nights, but even as a kid I remember the inconsistencies. They became that much more glaring when the show went into syndication and was on five days a week.
I think I read once where the writing team changed about halfway through the series. That's one excuse, but still it always bugged me!
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In the first episode, Dorothy tells Rose that she grew up in Queens. After that, it's always Brooklyn that Dorothy grew up in.
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I'm kind of glad this subject was brought up in this thread. The show was very good when it came to inconsistencies.

Early on in the series, Sophia went to visit her son, Phil. According to Sophia, Angela was a welder and never cooked. "She would only get up to go to the kitchen to get a cold beer!"
Later on in the series after Phil died, we meet Angela and Sophia called her "Big Sally". But now she's a cosmatologist. Speaking of Phil's funeral, why wasn't any of the rest of the family there? Gloria, Kate, Michael, Angelo, Angela? That never did make much sense to me.

So did Sophia only have Angela and Angelo for siblings? The reason I ask is because I have heard Sophia talk of other relatives. She would tell Dorothy about her Aunt Regina and Aunt Renata.

Also, Dorothy never had any grandkids but according to her in one episode, she was telling the girls that they were grandmothers. Since when did Dorothy become a grandmother? I mean Michael had a baby with Lorraine but after the episode where she and Michael announce the pregnancy and get married we never hear about the baby again.

Also Rose's daughter Kirsten was played by two different actresses. In Season one her daughter Kirsten has one daughter, Charley. In the later Season Home Again, Rose Kirsten is believed to have several daughters and apparently they are too young to come to the hospital. Um Charley wouldn't be too young by that time.
The same with Blanche. Her daughter Janet had David and then later, Melissa and then in Home Again, Rose, she has Sarah.

Also Rose said she graduated high school and was valedictorian because she drew the longest straw, but then later on she says she never graduated high school.

In the episode Grab That Dough, the announcer says that Sophia was a grandmother of six. How is that possible if there was Michael and Kate? Unless he meant great grandma? Nevermind, I guess he could have been referring to Phil and Gloria's kids. Although, Sophia did say that Phil and Angela had 10 kids once and I don't know how many kids Gloria had.

So how many kids did Rose have? There was Kirsten, Bridget, Adam, Janella and Charlie, Jr.
Blanche had Rebecca, Matthew, Skippy, Janet, Doug? Hers were always changing episode to episode.

Rose wasn't allergic to cats as Dorothy said in one episode. She had a cat Lindstrom, and then Mr. Peepers later on.

I could go on forever. This show had soooo many inconsistencies! I loved it anyway!
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Good post! I hadn't even thought about all of those. The characters being played by different actors/actresses never really bothered me, but the other stuff ... yeah. I chalk almost all of it up to laziness or ignorance by the second crew of writers (which sounds mean but I don't intend it to be ... none of them knew to look back at old episodes, nor did they probably have the time). I understand continuity being sacrificed on occasion for the sake of humor, but they took it to a new level! It never affected my enjoyment of the show, but it was enough to notice 20 years ago for an OCD teen like myself.
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The inconsistency with Dorothy's children was always confusing considering it was brought up throughout the series how she got pregnant out of high school and married Stan. I always assumed Kate was the first child because she seemed older than Michael who's age was mentioned and there's no way he could be the child Dorothy had at 18 or 19 based on her age of 55 during the first season.

Blanche has daughters Janet and Rebecca, but she also mentioned sons Biff, Doug, and Skippy. She also mentioned a son Matthew who was a CPA. He was seen on Golden Palace.

With Rose we saw daughters Kierston and Bridget. However, she also mentions Janella, Adam, and Charlie Jr.

One inconsistency in a line I can't believe no one on the show caught was when Rose told Blanche and Dorothy she was adopted. She said Gunter and Alma NYLUND were her adoptive parents--Nylund was her married name. Her maiden name was Lindstom.

Another inconsistency was all the girls raising money for house repairs. They buy the DiKimmel painting for a new roof. The house was Blanche's and the others paid rent. Any expenses to the house would have been up to Blanche.
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The one with Rose's birth name supposedly being Nylund was, IMO, the worst inconsistency of the entire series. I don't know how no one, including Betty White herself, caught that. Even she had to know Rose's maiden name was Lindstrom.
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Sophia said she and Angela were the only ones left of the original family. I really do believe that Angela simply became Angelo, as her sister was never mentioned again after her second appearance.

The show definitely had its share of inconsistencies; but, some of the best shows have (even I Love Lucy).
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Another one I didn't see mentioned was Blanche's daughter Rebecca. The first time we see her, Blanche describes her as a former model, but she's gained a lot of weight since then and brings her BF (who later proposes and she says yes because she thinks she can't do better) who proceeds to bash her and make sarcastic remarks about her at every turn. The girls are all ready to kill him but Rebecca tolerates it because she thinks being fat she can't get anyone else. Luckily she realizes Blanche is right and dumps the loser. The next time we see her she's a lot thinner with different colored hair (the first Rebecca I think had dirty blonde hair that was mostly straight, the second Rebecca had dark hair that was curly) and wanting to have a baby via in vitro fertilization. That actress played Rebecca the rest of the times she appeared on the show.

All the other ones I would've mentioned (particularly Kirstin) have already been mentioned.
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