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Old 09-23-2012, 08:46 AM   #16
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Wasn't Nell Carter doing cocaine behind the scenes? Maybe the writers were basing the character off the actress.
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Wasn't Nell Carter doing cocaine behind the scenes? Maybe the writers were basing the character off the actress.
Yeah, early on at least.

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Wasn't Nell Carter doing cocaine behind the scenes? Maybe the writers were basing the character off the actress.
Before, Nell Harper seemed to really only lose it if someone did something incredibly stupid. But once, Nell Carter quit cocaine and her weight started yo-yo-ing, Nell Harper on Gimme A Break! got progressively louder and meaner. So maybe the writers wrote her outbursts as a form of catharsis.
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Before, Nell Harper seemed to really only lose it if someone did something incredibly stupid. But once, Nell Carter quit cocaine and her weight started yo-yo-ing, Nell Harper on Gimme A Break! got progressively louder and meaner. So maybe the writers wrote her outbursts as a form of catharsis.

That is very interesting. It is always nice to read about a new school of thought.
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My former professor who wrote Diff'rent Strokes told me the reason why the theme song changed--

Nell wanted to make money or something and didn't want to give credit anymore to the creators of the original- It was something along those lines but I'm not sure how true that was--

Usually a show just updates their theme song with the same lyrics but they changed them completely and I liked them so much better than the original!


The first 2 seasons were as if the show was in the 70s! The last 4 were so much better!


They got rid of the original producers as well as Nell had them fired!


But getting rid of the theme meant getting rid of the instrumentals used in opening scenes as they did in seasons 1-2! Those were most likely by the same team who wrote the season 1-2 song! The 2nd theme song- the ONLY time they used parts of it to open scenes of an episode were in "The Center" but they just took segments of the actual theme--they didn't make new instrumentals to open scenes that had the feel of the intro!


Other than that--


The show was changing! They added Addy- so Nell had to get mad!
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My former professor who wrote Diff'rent Strokes told me the reason why the theme song changed--

Nell wanted to make money or something and didn't want to give credit anymore to the creators of the original- It was something along those lines but I'm not sure how true that was--

Usually a show just updates their theme song with the same lyrics but they changed them completely and I liked them so much better than the original!


The first 2 seasons were as if the show was in the 70s! The last 4 were so much better!


They got rid of the original producers as well as Nell had them fired!


But getting rid of the theme meant getting rid of the instrumentals used in opening scenes as they did in seasons 1-2! Those were most likely by the same team who wrote the season 1-2 song! The 2nd theme song- the ONLY time they used parts of it to open scenes of an episode were in "The Center" but they just took segments of the actual theme--they didn't make new instrumentals to open scenes that had the feel of the intro!


Other than that--


The show was changing! They added Addy- so Nell had to get mad!

That is all very interesting. I agree that, by Season 3, the show had become quite a bit different. I would say that the addition of Addie was only one of the significant differences in the show.
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Also for Season 4, Dolph Sweet was going in for cancer treatment and he wanted to do the show to get away from his actual problems. The Chief too can have a mean streak...more so than Nell!

And when Sweet died, Carter probably did more cocaine to deal with Sweet's death...I think she was devastated with that loss.
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That is very interesting. It is always nice to read about a new school of thought.
From my understanding, Nell Carter was also diabetic and did not regulate it well. When her sugar was off, she was an absolute monster. She had anger management issues to begin with (hence the weight), but when her sugar was off, her anger was white hot and out of control.
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From my understanding, Nell Carter was also diabetic and did not regulate it well. When her sugar was off, she was an absolute monster. She had anger management issues to begin with (hence the weight), but when her sugar was off, her anger was white hot and out of control.
I had no idea of that. Very interesting indeed.
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Right now, I am going through and watching the entire series from beginning to end. I am in Season 4, right now.

The biggest issue I am having with the series is Nell's transformation into this mean, angry person. She is so mean and so nasty to Addie and all of the girls. It's too much! Oh and then every episode has to have Nell sing in it. Come on!!

The biggest thing I notice is this certainly started in Season 3 when the Maude crew come in. Hal Cooper, Arthur Julian and Rod Parker, all worked on Maude. I love Maude, don't get me wrong. But Nell's anger is out of control.

Did Hal Cooper direct her to be like this?
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Right now, I am going through and watching the entire series from beginning to end. I am in Season 4, right now.

The biggest issue I am having with the series is Nell's transformation into this mean, angry person. She is so mean and so nasty to Addie and all of the girls. It's too much! Oh and then every episode has to have Nell sing in it. Come on!!

The biggest thing I notice is this certainly started in Season 3 when the Maude crew come in. Hal Cooper, Arthur Julian and Rod Parker, all worked on Maude. I love Maude, don't get me wrong. But Nell's anger is out of control.

Did Hal Cooper direct her to be like this?
First off, it is great to hear from a familiar SOL memeber. ❤️

Second, youíre correct. The Maude writing staff did come onto the scene. Maude was loud and angry. Nell became angry and LOUDER! It was overbearing. Iíd be glad when her mother and give her that crap because Nell couldnít get away with a lot when it came to her mother. Nell tried it with her sister Loretta as well. To this day, I hate seeing Nell body slam Addy on the couch in the actual episode and theme opening.

Third, the singing Iím ok with. Nell could blow with authority.

Fourth, I LOVED her new wardrobe choices. Nell has it going on with that. It was as almost there were a set of twins alternating in the role with one playing the role during the first two years hen someone taking over the last four.
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Nell treated Addy like trash!
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I never found anything funny about it.
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Me either. I don't know how anyone could find Nell's cruel treatment of Addy to be funny. It was cruel, disgusting and so very inappropriate. IMO, Addy never did anything to deserve any of Nell's wrath. Addy was a kind person.
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