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Old 01-27-2008, 12:36 PM   #46
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As much as I enjoyed that scene, it definitely did not have a place on network tv. The problem is, these networks want to compete with HBO and Showtime for "compelling" tv. The thing is, they just can't do that. They have more of a responsibilty to audiences.
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Law & Order? LOL. That's the tamest show going. The blood splatters in the rug upset you? I watched a couple of seasons of 24, and my husband's never missed an episode. Never saw any kind of the the violence you described. No splattered brains, nobody impaled, no exploding heads, nothing crazy gruesome. There's implied violence, where they start something, and the viewer knows what's going to happen. I don't know what you're watching. Must be on cable. I'm talking about Primetime Network TV. The Big 3. I see that raw violence in the many, many movies we rent from Netflix, at least five a week.
Wow, I guess you just proved my point there. See what I mean about that stuff seems ok...but not a naked butt? You even softened the words up to make it sound ok, like saying "implied violence" and saying kid-friendly "cops and robbers." Wow. Interesting.

Everything I mentioned I saw on one of those shows I mentioned (it was L&O SVU) and I can do a little research if you want and get episode numbers and you can see for yourself if you'd rather see that than some mild nudity. Or better yet, decide which you'd like the kids to see. I'd like kids to see neither, which is precisely my point. And by the way...are you thinking "implied violence" isn't as dangerous as actually seeing it? Is that why my 17 year old niece threw up after seeing the SVU episode where the FBI agent spontaneously blew her head off at the end?

Do we need to see on tv a child walk in on a naked woman getting ready to take a shower? No, nor do we need to see people obliterated to pieces on tv, either. But at least taking a shower (nude ) is a normal thing we do every day, and the human body is in a normal condition in that situation. I still don't want it on my tv in prime time.
I think it's all harmful and our perception is off when it comes to both nudity and violence on prime time tv, but in the media as a whole in general.
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As much as I enjoyed that scene, it definitely did not have a place on network tv. The problem is, these networks want to compete with HBO and Showtime for "compelling" tv. The thing is, they just can't do that. They have more of a responsibilty to audiences.
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Wow, I guess you just proved my point there. See what I mean about that stuff seems ok...but not a naked butt? You even softened the words up to make it sound ok, like saying "implied violence" and saying kid-friendly "cops and robbers." Wow. Interesting.

Everything I mentioned I saw on one of those shows I mentioned (it was L&O SVU) and I can do a little research if you're going to make me and get episode numbers and you can see for yourself if you'd rather see that than some mild nudity. Or better yet, decide which you'd like the kids to see. I'd like kids to see neither, which is precisely my point. And by the way...are you thinking "implied violence" isn't as dangerous as actually seeing it? Is that why my 17 year old niece threw up after seeing the SVU episode where the FBI agent spontaneously blew her head off at the end?

Do we need to see on tv a child walk in on a naked woman getting ready to take a shower? No, nor do we need to see people obliterated to pieces on tv, either. But at least taking a shower (nude ) is a normal thing we do every day, and the human body is in a normal condition in that situation. I still don't want it on my tv in prime time.
I think it's all harmful and our perception is off when it comes to both nudity and violence on prime time tv, but in the media as a whole in general.
Wow. I just proved your point? On what planet? I didn't soften anything. By implied violence, I mean that you'll see a scene where something violent is about to happen, but the camera breaks away. It's implied, but not shown, and no, I don't think it's as dangerous as showing it. I told you that I haven't see this over-the-top violence on Network tv that you described. Cable tv, yes. Network tv, no. If it's there and I haven't seen it, I'm against it. It still doesn't mean that I can't be against a nude woman being shown on tv. Your red herring argument stinks.

I haven't seen anyone get obliterated to pieces. Sure, you're claiming it, so back it up if you want. Doesn't matter to me. And what's with the laughing at me? Is that how you discuss and debate, you Wow the person and laugh at them? That's mature, not. That's usually a sign of desperation when people start in with the personal attacks or laugh at a person. What's next, the on-the-back rolling smiley? You tell Brian his post is nicely put with a smiley face, when he's agreeing with me. Why not get all over his case and grill him about violence? I'm not in favor of violence on tv, never said I was. I'm discussing the topic of this thread. That wasn't mild nudity either.
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Wow, I guess you just proved my point there. See what I mean about that stuff seems ok...but not a naked butt? You even softened the words up to make it sound ok, like saying "implied violence" and saying kid-friendly "cops and robbers." Wow. Interesting.

Everything I mentioned I saw on one of those shows I mentioned (it was L&O SVU) and I can do a little research if you want and get episode numbers and you can see for yourself if you'd rather see that than some mild nudity. Or better yet, decide which you'd like the kids to see. I'd like kids to see neither, which is precisely my point. And by the way...are you thinking "implied violence" isn't as dangerous as actually seeing it? Is that why my 17 year old niece threw up after seeing the SVU episode where the FBI agent spontaneously blew her head off at the end?

Do we need to see on tv a child walk in on a naked woman getting ready to take a shower? No, nor do we need to see people obliterated to pieces on tv, either. But at least taking a shower (nude ) is a normal thing we do every day, and the human body is in a normal condition in that situation. I still don't want it on my tv in prime time.
I think it's all harmful and our perception is off when it comes to both nudity and violence on prime time tv, but in the media as a whole in general.
Are you Okay? I watch L&O SVU and I've never seen awhole lot of violence on it. In fact the whole L&O franchise is kind of boring if you're just watching it to see violence. It's mostly a lot of talk. As for 24 most of the violence on there is comedic anyway....I never take it too seriously and it's nowhere as graphic as cable. What NYPD Blue aired was suited more for HBO than ABC. And yes I was an NYPD Blue fan. For the most part they didn't show a lot of nudity...probably a couple episodes a season but that was too much for network tv.
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Are you Okay? I watch L&O SVU and I've never seen awhole lot of violence on it. In fact the whole L&O franchise is kind of boring if you're just watching it to see violence. It's mostly a lot of talk. As for 24 most of the violence on there is comedic anyway....I never take it too seriously and it's nowhere as graphic as cable. What NYPD Blue aired was suited more for HBO than ABC. And yes I was an NYPD Blue fan. For the most part they didn't show a lot of nudity...probably a couple episodes a season but that was too much for network tv.

Exactly, I was expecting to see the top of the crack...not the FULL MOON!
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As much as I enjoyed that scene, it definitely did not have a place on network tv. The problem is, these networks want to compete with HBO and Showtime for "compelling" tv. The thing is, they just can't do that. They have more of a responsibilty to audiences.
exactly. The reason people pay extra is to see shows like that. I got a kick out of when Court TV bought the reruns to NYPD Blue. They had 2 versions. A tamer one aired in the early evening and the regular ABC version aired real late at night.
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Exactly, I was expecting to see the top of the crack...not the FULL MOON!
and they did come close to frontal nudity in that scene..they were pushing the censors there.
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and they did come close to frontal nudity in that scene..they were pushing the censors there.

They definitely were, I ASSume that was during one of the Sweeps times.
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They definitely were, I ASSume that was during one of the Sweeps times.
Yea I just checked over on the episode guide and the episode titled " Nude Awakening" aired on February 25, 2003.
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LOL

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We're not prudes in any sense. Suppose my husband's 14 year-old granddaughter was sleeping over and walked into the room while that NYPD scene was on.
that's true, but the same thing could happen if you're watching Nip/Tuck or something off HBO/Showtime as well though.
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