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Old 07-26-2014, 11:59 PM   #31
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One thing that irritates me is how, almost any time there's a racial minority on the screen, someone has to make a comment about the person's race.

Some examples off the top of my head - Sophia prattling on about Chinese Checkers to Dorothy's doctor, Martinique "admitting" that she's black, Sophia asking the guy at the diner "Are you black?" when he asks if they can cook, and Fidel Santiago saying "My papers are in order!" when Blanche yells his name.
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:00 PM   #32
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I think the main thing that will always bug me about the show is the series finale

I didn't buy into Dorothy marrying Blanche's uncle after such a short time of knowing him. It didn't feel true to her character. I would of rather the finale been a bit predictable and have her and stan remarry, or even a major job promotion to take her away. I just didn't like that this was how Dorothy's story came to an end on the show.
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Old 08-22-2014, 04:09 AM   #33
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Someone else said it and I agree there were way too many sex jokes, there's no need for all that smut. And Blanche was...such a tramp. And that's putting it nicely. I can't believe anybody would want to live with a roommate like that in real life. Where they constantly have men coming and going all the time.

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Old 08-22-2014, 06:45 AM   #34
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I agree sometimes the remarks were very mean and uncalled for, sometimes they used Sophia's stroke (disease) for her to say horrible and not so funny remarks; however this would be the writing, also how was Bea's son 29 when she had to get married and divorced after 38 yrs.? This is the one major flaw ,and I mean major, the writers just made somethings up and then if it didn't suit a storyline a year later? it was to be forgotten, many many times this was done. To this day I think Rue had the most children, but I am not sure.The biggest blunder was the age difference in Dorthy's marriage and the age of the kids. YET I LOVED THAT SHOW AND STILL DO!!!!
Yes, how was Michael only 29 when Dorothy had to get married because she was pregnant with him THIRTY EIGHT years ago???
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Yes, how was Michael only 29 when Dorothy had to get married because she was pregnant with him THIRTY EIGHT years ago???

She was most likely pregnant with Kate first, not Michael (that's what I've always believed).
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Old 08-23-2014, 02:35 AM   #36
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I'll agree that Sophia was downright mean and cruel a lot of times. But Dorothy could be that way too, she gave as good as she got. But she usually took it out on Rose or Blanche instead of her mom.

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4. I thought sometimes things that the Sophia and the girls would say about Dorothy was very cruel when they would make fun of her looks or how her body was. Dorothy was just as attractive as any one of them, but yet they take any opportunity they could to insult her. Especially Sophia who seemed to put her daughter down a lot.
It was a running gag, much in the same way that Will on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air would always make fun of Uncle Phil's weight or Carlton's height or geekiness every episode.

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Old 12-29-2014, 12:20 AM   #38
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I would say from a technical standpoint, the only thing I would point to would be, PERHAPS, that Estelle Getty was miscast. We all know she had the look, but her acting chops were far below the skill and White, Arthur and McClanahan, and the show's production value and timing paid a price. I think perhaps they could have found a better actress with better comedic timing and a little more variety in her acting. I often wonder who else auditioned for the role of Sophia. I think Nancy Walker, actually, could have pulled off the role. So to answer your question, although I loved Estelle as Sophia, from a thespian standpoint, I think the role could have been better cast. It would have made the overall timing and production even that much tighter.
Nancy Walker would've been terrible on the show IMO, she didn't impress me on the two episodes she guest starred in as Sophia's sister. IMO Estelle was great in the role for the most part, she had a way of delivering the lines with quickness and ferocity that made the lines hilarious. I think certain seasons Sophia's character was funnier than others however.

The continuity thing never bothered me about the series, a lot of times the writers did that to help the story at hand.

The thing that bothered me the most was the exit of director Terry Hughes and a lot of the orignal writers after season 5. The dip in quality from seasons 1-5 to seasons 6 and 7 is very pronounced. All the characters became caricatures during the final two seasons. Blanche was a slut (they seemed to use the word slut much more frequently in the final seasons) instead of just enjoying the company of men, Rose was downright retarded, Dorothy was undateable and a homebody, and Sophia went from being colorful to an outright bitch.

One more thing that bothered me was Blanche's closed-mindedness. I felt it hypocritical that Blanche lived her life as she saw fit (a narcissistic, sex hungry, trollop), but had problems with her brother being gay, her brother marrying a man, her daughter getting artificially inseminated, her father wanting to become a singer etc;
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