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Old 04-26-2017, 04:16 PM   #31
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I also didn't know EM was raped.

I was going to ask posters comments (those who remember) back in about the early 90's on a reunion show about EM making accusations against both Ron Howard and especially Henry Winker about sexual harassment.

Sorry if that upsets some, but this was a real incident which I'm confused about what really happened. Like I said, until a few minutes ago I didn't know EM was raped.

Anyway, I am shocked & saddened to hear about EM's passing.
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I also didn't know EM was raped....

Sorry if that upsets some, but this was a real incident which I'm confused about what really happened. Like I said, until a few minutes ago I didn't know EM was raped.
I think that the person who has repeatedly raised this charge should say when it was uttered, to who, and under what circumstances.
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I think that the person who has repeatedly raised this charge should say when it was uttered, to who, and under what circumstances.
She said it on Howard Stern in the 90s, someone posted the YouTube clip in the other thread about her death. She said she was raped at the age of 23 by someone close to her, and Stern kept trying to pry more out but she didn't get too into specifics. But it came from her own mouth.
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She said it on Howard Stern in the 90s, someone posted the YouTube clip in the other thread about her death. She said she was raped at the age of 23 by someone close to her, and Stern kept trying to pry more out but she didn't get too into specifics. But it came from her own mouth.
So are you saying she was just being interviewed, just Howard and she conversing?
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So are you saying she was just being interviewed, just Howard and she conversing?

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I don't know why she went on that show. Same as Dana Plato. All he does is exploit people.
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Zoneboy: I appreciate your posting the link, but I think it's important that the people making this accusation actually say what's going there. The original poster seems to have an absolute faith in its truthfulness, and others are repeating that without question.
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whatever his actual feelings may be, Scott Baio definitely comes across as cold, uncaring and unsympathetic. Regardless of the cause or any contributing factors in her passing, Erin was a human being; someone that he had a close personal relationship with and his choice of words seemed callous and incongruent with that.

I don't really care about his politics, but he seems to use that as an excuse for a lot of things and he causes a lot of problems for himself every time he opens his mouth. He seems to prefer the confrontational stance rather than using any tact, reserve or reason. Maybe that's what happens when you grow up being treated like a celebrity constantly surrounded by sycophants only there to exploit or use you. As for the "fake news" - Chachi has been around the block long enough to know how the media can selectively use words out of context against you; however, in this case weren't his comments in an interview setting and a twitter response respectively - both venues he had a certain amount of control over how he came across?
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Here's a link to Baio's actual radio comments. His interview starts around 2:30 and runs to about 10:00.

https://audioboom.com/posts/5849339-...-will-kill-you
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In hindsight, my post earlier may be confusing.
I was more talking about a breakdown EM had not long after a reunion show (20th?).

As for Scott Baio, hard to believe he is 56. Not that it is acceptable to act a certain way at any age, but you certainly don't expect it at age 56.
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Zoneboy: I appreciate your posting the link, but I think it's important that the people making this accusation actually say what's going there. The original poster seems to have an absolute faith in its truthfulness, and others are repeating that without question.
No confusion intended. When I wrote about the rape in this thread, I had already posted the link to the video in the other thread (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...=359198&page=2 ), The other thread was more widely read, so I assumed everyone was following that initial thread and knew what I was talking about here. As far as the credibility of Erin's claims (claims out of HER mouth, no one else's), I explained already in this thread my position:

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And before someone jumps on me, no, I did not see her raped. But I saw real tears in her eyes and real pain on her face when she revealed that. That was no act. I believe her.
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Yes, she and others chose to go on his show. Erin even chose to make that horrible revelation about rape on his show. I can only assume mental illness played a role in her decision. None of us can understand the mental impact of growing up a celebrity, then having that yanked away from you. And the abuse she apparently experienced WHILE at the height of her fame. Rape by a family member, OMG! In her world she needed her family more than anything to navigate her fame, and at least this one member of her family failed her.

As for her choosing to do Stern's show, she may have been at a point where there was no one she could trust anyway, and also needing some kind of public exposure (no matter how negative) in hopes of jump-starting her career. And Stern exploited her weakness and desperation, just as he did with Dana Plato. Dana Plato also went on the Stern show and was abused horribly by people calling in, which some people believe may have been set up by Stern's staff. Even if they were not plants, Stern's people did nothing to filter out those callers and Dana ended up in tears and the very next day she was dead. (That tragic show is also on Youtube.) Perhaps Howard Stern has some remorse over these decisions, but if so I've never heard about it.
Zoneboy already reposted the link here, but I'll do it once more so all my comments and the video are together in this post. Her rape confession starts at 6:00:

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Since you won't say it: she agreed to go on The Howard Stern Show and be in a Queen for a Day skit in which she competed with two other child stars for which one had had the worst life as an adult. The only less reliable accusation would be if she were literally being tortured when she uttered it.
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Since you won't say it: she agreed to go on The Howard Stern Show and be in a Queen for a Day skit in which she competed with two other child stars for which one had had the worst life as an adult. The only less reliable accusation would be if she were literally being tortured when she uttered it.
Good grief, how much more can I spell this out? YES, I SAID IT. Sheesh. Here's my comment for the THIRD time:

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Yes, she and others chose to go on his show. Erin even chose to make that horrible revelation about rape on his show. I can only assume mental illness played a role in her decision. None of us can understand the mental impact of growing up a celebrity, then having that yanked away from you. And the abuse she apparently experienced WHILE at the height of her fame. Rape by a family member, OMG! In her world she needed her family more than anything to navigate her fame, and at least this one member of her family failed her.

As for her choosing to do Stern's show, she may have been at a point where there was no one she could trust anyway, and also needing some kind of public exposure (no matter how negative) in hopes of jump-starting her career. And Stern exploited her weakness and desperation, just as he did with Dana Plato. Dana Plato also went on the Stern show and was abused horribly by people calling in, which some people believe may have been set up by Stern's staff. Even if they were not plants, Stern's people did nothing to filter out those callers and Dana ended up in tears and the very next day she was dead. (That tragic show is also on Youtube.) Perhaps Howard Stern has some remorse over these decisions, but if so I've never heard about it.
And again, MY POSITION as to her credibility:

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And before someone jumps on me, no, I did not see her raped. But I saw real tears in her eyes and real pain on her face when she revealed that. That was no act. I believe her.
I'm usually very skeptical of claims from people who have been known to have issues. In her case, I believe her. I explained why I believe her. I explained (for the third time now) why I believe her, even though she was made this revelation on Howard Stern's show (who else was calling her to talk)? If you don't believe her, fine, you don't have to believe her. I believe her. And I believe Lauren Chapin, too. Do you doubt her as well?
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This is off the topic, but LRII could you briefly explain what happened to Lauren Chapin? Hadn't heard.

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This is off the topic, but LRII could you briefly explain what happened to Lauren Chapin? Hadn't heard.
Oh gosh, I don't think I can briefly explain that, but I'll try. I'm going by memory here, so I'm sure I'm leaving a lot out. But she had all kinds of abuse as a child, emotional and sexual. And this was going on during the years of FKB. Some of the emotional trauma happened on the set with the show's director. Sexual abuse was going on at home. The day Father Knows Best ended, she found herself suddenly unwelcome at the studio, which is something a child can't quite understand: treated like a star one day, then a nobody the next. Then through the '60s and 70s she got heavily involved in drugs, and that led to prostitution, and I think even jail. She eventually turned to religion. I think she addresses most of this on the Stern show. You hear lots of horrible stories about what happens to child stars. Lauren Chapin's story is one of the absolute worst. It's amazing she didn't die.
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