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Old 02-13-2008, 06:06 PM   #106
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Here's a theory I've been throwing around. I'm not sure if this has been posted here before or not, but if so I apologize. What if the first initial attack/harassment on the Wackers was geniune, and they reported it to the police and they got media attention, etc. Maybe then either Mr or Mrs Wacker liked the amount of attention they were receiving from the incident and started planning their own faked harassments/attacks to keep receiving attention. Maybe it wasn't to keep getting attention for themselves, but to keep the story in the news/relatives attention so they would keep looking for the original attacker, so that no one would forget about the case or allow it to go cold.

I don't know, its a long shot and just a theory, but I'm just throwing it out there.

And, of course I mean no disrespect to the Wackers or anyone that they are related to, this is just an idea. I wonder if the attacks stopped after Mr. Wacker died? I really hope this is a case that is updated or at least profiled when the new Unsolved Mysteries appears on TV.
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When I first watched the segment, the thought of the Wackers creating this whole thing didn't even enter my mind. But after subsequent viewings, the Wackers story just didn't add up.

If you were Mrs. Wacker, would you let someone in to your house months after your house was burglarized for the 3rd time in the span of a year? Would you let him in when he claims his car broke down, but there is absolutely no sight of the car? Wouldn't it make sense that he would go to the nearest house for a phone? Would you let the stranger in when you're alone and female? Would you turn his back on him like Mrs. Wacker did?
None of that makes any sense.

Also, during the span of an entire decade, all of the following are true.

1. No one ever sees the man.
2. No one ever hears the man.
3. No one recognizes the man when his composite sketch surfaces.
4. No one recognizes the car, or for that matter, even sees the car that allegeldy broke down the day he allegedly attacked Mrs. Wacker.

The odds are just overwhelming, here.
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Also, isn't it a little weird that Bill Wacker never has any bones about going out and facing the intruder(s)? I mean, does he think he's going to be able to put up much of a fight against this person? And shouldn't he be concerned about his safety after what they allegedly did to Mrs. Wacker?
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Old 02-14-2008, 12:25 AM   #109
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There's a composite sketch of the attacker? I wasn't aware of this... Does anyone have a link to a picture of this alleged attacker? I haven't seen the segment in several years, so its possible that it was profiled on UM but that I just do not remember it.
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Hmm, well maybe. But remember he carried a pistol outside so it wasnt like he, an elderly man would be fighting this mysterious man with his hands. Also, when Mrs. Wacker supposedly let the mysterious man in her house she probably figured it wasnt the burglar because the burglar had only broke into their house when they were not home. I also have a hard time believing that Mrs. Wacker as part of this scheme to draw attention to herself would submit to willingly having her skull fractured. But that is just my opinion.

One thing I have conidered is whether or not Bill Wacker was involved in these attacks on his wife. I suggest this because it seems Bill was always convienently gone when h is wife was attacked meaning that either Bill himself was attacking her or Bill was having someone else attack her while he was elsewhere for an alabi or an unidentified third party for no appearant reason was attacking the Wackers.
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Hey Wiseguy love the new Di-Biase icon, maybe I might change mine to Handsome Harley Race, anyway you pretty much echoed my thoughts that I said on this case some while back- I could see no way that if you had been terrorised in this manner for so long that you would just let a total stranger into your house and let them wander around while you have your back turned to them.

I thought it was more likely she was doing it to get at her husband, but who knows maybe they were both just looking for attention, maybe he was the mastermind, maybe he or whoever hit her did it too hard- being that age she would be pretty frail and hard to judge how hard to hit her, but yes I think somebody in their family must have been involoved as well.
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I just watched this segment again for the first time in a long time. . .

Just like Cindy James -- somehow the "assailant" knows when the surveillance is on and strikes right after it ends. Awfully convenient.

I think it was either real (not likely) or they were both in on it. I don't think Mr. Wacker did it alone.

I realize he has no reason to do it. But I also have elderly relatives who do weird stuff the older they get. I had a great uncle who seemed normal as can be, until he died and we went through his house. Let's just say you think you know a person, and the mind does weird stuff when you get old.

Has there ever been more info on this?
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^ I've always thought that Cindy James was being stalked by someone. I think someone in that segment mentioned that whomever was after her was trying to "gaslight" her and make her go insane. I believe in her case either she was being attacked by someone or she was being gaslighted by someone who eventually succeeded in their goal of making her go off the deep end and cause physical harm to herself eventually resulting in her death.

In the case of The Wackers, I just don't know what went on there. Like you mentioned Todd, you can never know what goes through someone's mind all of the time and we as an audience certainly can't use the UM segment as a basis for judging the mental state of either of the Wackers be it a positive or negative review.

I will say this if the Wackers were somehow involved in this entire incident with Dorothy being attacked, I think they all were involved in it...Bill, Dorothy and their family. The only reason I can see is publicity although there are probably other reasons we could all conjur up depending on how much mental imbalance we want to attach to this family.
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^ I've always thought that Cindy James was being stalked by someone. I think someone in that segment mentioned that whomever was after her was trying to "gaslight" her and make her go insane.

In the case of The Wackers, I just don't know what went on there. Like you mentioned Todd, you can never know what goes through someone's mind all of the time and we as an audience certainly can't use the UM segment as a basis for judging the mental state of either of the Wackers. . .
Good points, Dante.

It is tough because we see a segment and want to make our own conclusion, but in 15 minutes we rarely get "all the info." I watched a 48-Hours Mystery a few weeks back and I thought it was pretty straight forward. But even in the hour-long show, they omitted a ton of stuff which makes the case not so clear.

I can't imagine if I or my family was being stalked and no one believed us. That would be scary.

But I also know people could go "crazy" and do odd stuff. The saddest thing is that these people need help, too, and probably never get it. If you were mentally ill enough to stalk yourself, it's sad that it probably never treated for the real illness it is.

Selfishly I'd like to know what happened to Cindy James and the Wackers, but I'd really like them solved for the sake of their families who will always live with the questions.
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When I first saw this segment many, many moons ago. I had a hard time believing that they were doing it themselves.

That said, I sort of believe someone in the family had something to with it. One can only speculate at the reason(s) behind it.
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By far the most disturbing segement of UM yet. I was left baffled by who or why someone would torment these two old folks. I would like to place blame on the husband but he seemed as fearful as his wife. In the line of the Cindy James case, where I honestly feel that she knowingly hurt herself, the Wackers were a bit to old for the drama they cased. It didnt help matters that all the stuff went down late at night, and all those awful notes and such. But what really scared the bejesus out of me was when the wife was attacked...OMG! I almost went my night pants. And what was with all those times the phone numbers were changed and yet still being given out. FREAKY!

One other thing, I think someone wanted to force the oldies off their land or something of that nature, due to something that wasnt covered in the UM case.
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I'm willing to bet that they knew more than they were telling. I remember watching this for the first time when I was about 9 and I knew even then that there was no way all this could just be a coincidence. Anyone know of any sort of update of this case besides that Mr. Wacker died?
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Anyone know of any sort of update of this case besides that Mr. Wacker died?
Not really. I emailed the Sheriff's Dept. there a year or so ago asking but never got a reply.
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:32 PM   #119
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doing it to them .Cause when they set that "sting" up and all that stuff happened when they had 2 way radio's, hidding in trailors.. come on it's one of the family member's or the whole family is completly Wacked out...
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Awesome thread as the Wacker case always baffled me. I wonder if Mrs. Wacker (if she is still alive) lives in the same house and when/if the harassment stopped?
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