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Old 03-31-2013, 01:01 AM   #16
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Why within each decade forum isn't there a catch-all "Other" forum?

Then if there's enough interest shown by posts, a show could get its own forum?
That is an excellent idea! And, I think there should be one!
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:53 AM   #17
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Default TCM showing Horn Blows At Midnight

Yes, I mean think about it.
Jack Benny's 1950 sitcom is still on the air 10 times a week!
Only Lucy could say "so?"

And they still show his movies.
April 19 at 1 am PST, TCM is showing "The Horn Blows a Midnight."

TCM lists date as April 18 but they are not literal which is dumb in an age when everyone sets a timer and needs the exact date.

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Old 04-01-2013, 12:12 PM   #18
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Default why not in each decade forum, list OTHER or THE REST

For shows like Mary Ann or the Professor.

Then you'd have an organized place to post something.
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:30 AM   #19
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Default Jack Benny Lost Episodes

Amazon has reduced price pre-order of The Jack Benny Program: The Lost Episodes out in June / July.

These titles arenít in the extensive Benny Fan Club archives
nor are they in the Antenna TV rotation.

You get 18 new episodes.

63 10/7/1956 Guests: George Burns, Spike Jones
64 10/21/1956 Guests: George Gobel, Red Skelton
65 11/4/1956 "Jack Invited to the Colmans" Guests: Ronald and Benita Colman
94 9/21/1958 Guest: Gary Cooper
109 10/4/1959 "Jack Switches Sponsors" Benny Show 30 Years in Future (1989!)
110 10/18/1959 Guest: President Harry S. Truman
113 11/29/1959 Guest: Jack Paar
120 3/6/1960 Guests: Robert Wagner, Natalie Wood
122 4/17/1960 "The Easter Show"
123 5/1/1960 Final show of season. Jack discusses his trip to the Far East,
124 10/16/1960 Nightbeat parody. Guests: George Burns, Tony Curtis, Robert Wagner, Mike Wallace
126 10/30/1960 Guest: Milton Berle
128 11/20/1960 Guests: Jaye P. Morgan, John Wayne
159 12/24/1961 "Christmas Show"
167 2/18/1962 Guests: Hugh Downs, Rock Hudson
? THIS WASNíT EVEN ON EPISODE LIST 1/29/1963 "The Murder of Clayton Worthington" Guest: Dick Van Dyke
203 9/24/1963 "Reverend Billy Graham" Guest: Billy Graham
244 12/25/1964 One Man Show Guest: Gisele MacKenzie

Is anyone else excited?
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Anyone can google something or look it up in a book they have sitting on their shelf.
But only I can find what you really want, which are the radio shows online, all free, and all downloadable, and here they are:


Jack Benny Radio Program

Jack Benny TV Program

And since George Burns was his best friend, we have something for his fans too:

Burns and Allen TV episodes

Burns and Allen radio episodes

In either medium, comedy does not get better than this!
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:24 AM   #21
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Default Jack Benny on radio

Thanks for the resources.

From various free sources online, I've collected 773 Jack Benny radio programs from 1932 to 1955.

They're wonderful and in some ways even better than his TV show.

They show more continuity from week to week.

The funny elements you like in his TV show are even stronger on radio.

A great site giving detail descriptions is

https://sites.google.com/site/jackbennyinthe1940s/Home

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Default The episodes in the "Lost Episodes" box set....

....were originally telecast live through the 1958-'59 season, and videotaped from the fall of 1959- and were NEVER repeated. These episodes alternated with the filmed shows Jack was somewhat reluctant to do; he preferred to deliver topical humor, and the filmed episodes gave him very little opportunity to do that. But his manager [and executive producer] Irving Fein explaned that film was more valuable in future syndication, and would earn him more income in daytime repeats {"SUNDAY WITH JACK BENNY"/"THE JACK BENNY DAYTIME SHOW", 1964-65, CBS** and off-network sales. In fact, by the final weekly season on NBC (1964-'65), Jack videotaped only two episodes [one of them is featured in the box set], and filmed the remaining 26....but only 10 of those are currently in syndication (and cable repeats).

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Default thanks - 3 questions

Thanks so much for the explanation.

3 questions.

If the lost episodes were done live, are they kinescopes filmed off TV?

Originally it was announced CBS found 25. The DVD release is 18. Why not 25?

How many of 258 total Jack Benny TV shows are available?
Antenna TV run is a little over 130.
The Jack Benny fan club has 152.
The lost episode DVDs add 18. That's 170.
What's left?

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Default Glad you asked me that...

Yes, the live shows were "kinnied" for delayed telecasts by stations who couldn't carry the show "live" in their area (several examples are currently posted on YouTube)...and the videotaped episodes were also preserved on kinescope film, as the original videotapes were, for the most part, either erased or discarded.

As I've mentioned, there are various filmed episodes that were not included in syndication and cable repeats- including Rod Serling's January 1963 appearance; Jack Webb's November 1959 guest spot, with a "Charlie Chan" parody {one reason it was never repeated was because the widow of Earl Derr Biggers, who created Chan, sued Benny over the sketch**, and a January 1959 appearance by Barbara Stanwyck, doing a filmed version of Jack's perennial satire of "Gaslight" on radio and live TV {THAT was initially blocked by MGM, who claimed that Jack's parody was too close to their original movie- in the end, Benny paid them $1000 for the right to present the episode, and it was never shown again**.


Who's to say there might not be a second box set in the near future?

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Default thanks again

Thanks again for the explanation.

So I calculate with the lost episodes, about 170 episodes are available.

But what's odd with the various exclusions for various reasons, out of 15 seasons, how many seasons would be complete with every episode available? Not one!
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Default LOST EPISODES JACK BENNY short review

I loved it.
Even the extras are great.
The episodes are different from usual film ones on Antenna TV.
These were apparently done live. They screw up lines more.
But when that happens you do see Jack Benny can ad lib.
And the video is restored.
You get 3 discs if you order from Amazon. 18 episodes.
But if you order directly from Shout Factory, you get an bonus disc of Jack Benny doing a TV version of Horn Blows At Midnight from Omnibus in 1953.
It's funny too. The female angel Jack is sweet on is played by the gorgeous Dorothy Malone.
I'm glad I paid extra from Shout.
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I'm about to get an Amazon gift card and this is what I'm using it on

And count me as another vote for a Jack Benny Show forum here!
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I think there still would be an interest. But I may be prejudiced becase I love tge Jack Benny program. It still airs 10 times a week on Antenna TV. Benny did 250 episodes from 1950 to 1965. They regularly show about 150 public domain episodes. And Benny also has about 800 radio episodes in essentially the same format. Jack Benny was popular from 1932 in radio to his specials in the 1970s. And Benny influenced later comics like Johnny Carson. And still influences comics today. Letterman loves Benny.

Benny has his own fan club but the best TV forum anywhere is Sitcomsonline.

I suppose if I have a comment for Jack Benny, if he can't have his own forum, the best place would be that of his best friend George Burns.

And you're right about the lack of a definitive Jack Benny DVD.

I think that's due to legal issues. CBS a few years ago found 25 lost public domain episodes but won't release them and also won't let the Benny estate of the Jack Benny Fan Club release them.

I'm making my own DVDs from the Antenna TV shows. But they only show about 150 episodes. And they don't even show them in a regular order.
Another big Jack Benny fan here, and I actually came to this B & A forum while looking for a Benny one.

My true appreciation of Jack Benny has grown recently, while watching the Antenna TV broadcasts.
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I loved it.
Even the extras are great.
The episodes are different from usual film ones on Antenna TV.
These were apparently done live. They screw up lines more.
But when that happens you do see Jack Benny can ad lib.
And the video is restored.
You get 3 discs if you order from Amazon. 18 episodes.
But if you order directly from Shout Factory, you get an bonus disc of Jack Benny doing a TV version of Horn Blows At Midnight from Omnibus in 1953.
It's funny too. The female angel Jack is sweet on is played by the gorgeous Dorothy Malone.
I'm glad I paid extra from Shout.
Sounds great, I'll need to look that one up... can't get enough of Jack Benny and his subtle artistry.

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Yes, the live shows were "kinnied" for delayed telecasts by stations who couldn't carry the show "live" in their area (several examples are currently posted on YouTube)...and the videotaped episodes were also preserved on kinescope film, as the original videotapes were, for the most part, either erased or discarded.

As I've mentioned, there are various filmed episodes that were not included in syndication and cable repeats- including Rod Serling's January 1963 appearance; Jack Webb's November 1959 guest spot, with a "Charlie Chan" parody {one reason it was never repeated was because the widow of Earl Derr Biggers, who created Chan, sued Benny over the sketch**, and a January 1959 appearance by Barbara Stanwyck, doing a filmed version of Jack's perennial satire of "Gaslight" on radio and live TV {THAT was initially blocked by MGM, who claimed that Jack's parody was too close to their original movie- in the end, Benny paid them $1000 for the right to present the episode, and it was never shown again**.


Who's to say there might not be a second box set in the near future?

Good Lord, these sound like some fantastic Jack Benny moves, truly, I've barely scratched the surface on investigating his work:

Gaslight parody... Barbara Stanwyck!

Rod Serling!

Wonder if the Charlie Chan satire can be released finally?
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