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Old 09-02-2007, 03:11 AM   #31
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As for his appearance, I agree, he was clean cut and didn't really look like the type to become homicidal but looks are deceiving I suppose.
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:58 PM   #32
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What did you expect her to do? Sob for you? Don't you think she and her surviving family have been through enough? Do you have ANY FRICKIN IDEA what its like? To never be able to sleep at night from nightmares? Ever?
To loose your parents????????? To someone you thought you knew? I'll tell ya what, you sound like the type that would like to befriend the killer, maybe you would like to marry him? Poor, misunderstood young man........he's at Menard Correctional Center Illinois, knock yourself out!!!
Methinks Rella is Colleen or one of the relatives based on how emotional this post is. Some people can be judgmental over the emotions expressed of others; not everyone reacts to things the same way and most of us wish nothing but the best for Colleen.
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I would say its the latter - its really unfortunate on many levels what he did. I really can't feel bad for him having murdered two people and attempted to murder more than that but it really is a shame. If he would've taken a few steps back and thought rationally about what he was about to do I really have to wonder whether those events would've ever taken place. I mean its possible that Rick Church had "snap potential" all along or maybe had a borderline personality I don't know. I just think in someways this is so rare and over the top for someone with no criminal history or history of violence to do. I think it may have just been Rick's desire to have the "final word" in his relationship with Ritter.

I'm not saying anyone should sympathize with Church (I certainly don't) but what may seem outrageous to us if we put ourselves in his shoes on the night of the murder with the fight with Colleen any little thing could've set him off and been what sent him over the edge so to speak.
To me it seems as though Church had an ongoing mental disturbance of some sort that flared wildly with such trigger events as his parents divorcing, moving away from Colleen (who he might've considered his main support during the divorce), and then finally Colleen breaking up with him and apparently not wanting any of his attention. In fact, he seemed rather like someone suffering from severe major depression towards the beginning of the segment---the compulsive need to contact Colleen (probably stemming from the immense fear of being alone and/or rejected), the irritability, the mood swings. I do think that if that's the case, however, he definitely had some sort of complication working in conjunction with the disorder. You don't just kill someone's parents, run off, and start a life anew---especially if you're only suffering from depression.

It may seem unusual that Church would just "snap", but I can't help but think of Herb Baumeister---a well-respected, well-liked member of the community and successful businessman. Wife and three kids. Highly intelligent. We know him today as the I-70 Killer. That guy definitely had problems long before he started murdering, but "no one saw it coming" just the same.
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Well Rick Church is now 38 years old, he is currently serving his time at the Menard Correctional Center in Chester, Illinois as the poster above indicated. In 1992 he took a plea bargain that spared him the death penalty, he was sentenced to two concurrent life sentences for the murders, plus he was also sentenced to 30 years to run concurrently for attempted murder and another 30 years to run concurrently for home invasion. Here is the link: go to it and then type in the last name of whoever you want to find and their picture and info will pop up.
http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsecti...ch/default.asp

Of course in hindsight, I bet Church wishes he would have went to trial, since George Ryan ended up commuting all the death sentences to life in 2003 anyway. I am not sure if Church will ever be eligible for parole, I want to say that in Illinois, if you got a life sentence for a crime committed after 1978 you get an automatic LWOP sentence if you are sentenced to life, but I could be wrong, it might be up to the judge to decide parole eligibility, I dont know.
He is so cold and creepy looking. I know every time I watch the UM segment, his pic of him, probably his senior photo, always gives me the creeps.
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To me it seems as though Church had an ongoing mental disturbance of some sort that flared wildly with such trigger events as his parents divorcing, moving away from Colleen (who he might've considered his main support during the divorce), and then finally Colleen breaking up with him and apparently not wanting any of his attention. In fact, he seemed rather like someone suffering from severe major depression towards the beginning of the segment---the compulsive need to contact Colleen (probably stemming from the immense fear of being alone and/or rejected), the irritability, the mood swings. I do think that if that's the case, however, he definitely had some sort of complication working in conjunction with the disorder. You don't just kill someone's parents, run off, and start a life anew---especially if you're only suffering from depression.

It may seem unusual that Church would just "snap", but I can't help but think of Herb Baumeister---a well-respected, well-liked member of the community and successful businessman. Wife and three kids. Highly intelligent. We know him today as the I-70 Killer. That guy definitely had problems long before he started murdering, but "no one saw it coming" just the same.

On another segment on the case over at YouTube there is a profile of how Rick Church eluded capture for four years before being a policeman spotted him at a fast food restaurant.

As for why he committed the murders, he says he has no memory of it. Assuming this is true, it could be that the crime was so horrendous he blotted it from his mind and he himself cannot explain what drove him to it.

Does he feel remorse? I have no idea. He did plead guilty, much to Colleen's relief. It would be interesting to know what his feelings for her are now, and what he thinks every day about what he did and how it has ruined his life.
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Does he feel remorse? I have no idea. He did plead guilty, much to Colleen's relief. It would be interesting to know what his feelings for her are now, and what he thinks every day about what he did and how it has ruined his life.
agreed...it would be interesting to know Rick Church's feelings. I do feel immense sympathy for Colleen and I do wonder how she is today and what she is doing with her life. It can't be easy getting on with you life after something that terrible has happened to you.
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I found Colleen to be very strong. My guess is that she had already cried and been very upset and then went on UM to show that she was powering on and would not stop until Rick was captured, a sign that she would never give up. Some people can bottle their emotions really well in front of other people. I don't think I would be able to show such restraint, but I found her to be quite inspiring. This case is so eerie and one of the earliest I remember seeing. Hopefully Colleen is happy and doing well now.
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I found the Ritter home on Google Street View, where Richard's rampage took place. It's located at 209 West Greenwood Ave. in Woodstock, Illinois.





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Thanks dynoguy! Oh look, it's for sale? Who wants a house with that history??
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Old thread, but has anyone ever found a more recent article about Colleen? All I've been able to find is one that mentions that she was engaged (circa 1991). Hopefully she and her siblings are having good lives now.
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I read an article on this recently and UM changed some of the details. Church was allegedly drunk and high on the night of the murder. Church also bludgeoned the Ritters with a hammer from there own shop.
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I just watched it on Prime and that was 1 of the scariest reconstructions UM ever did.
Colleen was so calm and collected, really respect how she was able to talk about what happened considering how horrific it was.
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Thanks dynoguy! Oh look, it's for sale? Who wants a house with that history??
I would as I bet the house is cheaper than normal exactly because people think that.
In saying that I am sort of person who looks for deals on airlines that just had a major crash for much the same reason. That Malaysia Airlines deal was sweet.
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but I can't help but think of Herb Baumeister---a well-respected, well-liked member of the community and successful businessman. Wife and three kids. Highly intelligent. We know him today as the I-70 Killer. That guy definitely had problems long before he started murdering, but "no one saw it coming" just the same.

Going off topic a bit, but - the I-70 killer was identified??????
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I just watched it on Prime and that was 1 of the scariest reconstructions UM ever did.
Colleen was so calm and collected, really respect how she was able to talk about what happened considering how horrific it was.
Without a doubt, one of my favorite interviewees. After what she had been through, I wouldn't have blamed her if she had turned down the interview or was sobbing during it. She was amazingly calm and strong.

And I've said it before but also kudos to the actress who played Colleen. Those screams as she was being chased down the driveway were very believable.
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