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Old 08-14-2007, 10:10 AM   #16
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Well Rick Church is now 38 years old, he is currently serving his time at the Menard Correctional Center in Chester, Illinois as the poster above indicated. In 1992 he took a plea bargain that spared him the death penalty, he was sentenced to two concurrent life sentences for the murders, plus he was also sentenced to 30 years to run concurrently for attempted murder and another 30 years to run concurrently for home invasion. Here is the link: go to it and then type in the last name of whoever you want to find and their picture and info will pop up.
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Of course in hindsight, I bet Church wishes he would have went to trial, since George Ryan ended up commuting all the death sentences to life in 2003 anyway. I am not sure if Church will ever be eligible for parole, I want to say that in Illinois, if you got a life sentence for a crime committed after 1978 you get an automatic LWOP sentence if you are sentenced to life, but I could be wrong, it might be up to the judge to decide parole eligibility, I dont know.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:00 PM   #17
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It said on the update (although strangely not the one thats on the DVD) that Church is inelligible for parole. The update they occasionaly aired on "Lifetime" was a bit different from the one included on the DVD as it showed a photo of Church being lead somewhere in handcuffs and mentioned his sentence and that he was never going to be elligible for parole.

This case is so senseless, I mean all the murders are obviously but here we have a young man who just threw away his entire life due to one snap fit of rage. Rick Church had no record and wasn't a criminal by any means - I think Robert Stack said it best when he said "he became unhinged". Its just a shame that Church himself didn't seek out help for the problems in his life (the breakup with Colleen, his parents divorce) instead of letting his problems eat at him to the point where they led to this tragic conclusion.
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:49 PM   #18
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UM interviews are sometimes shortened for content. I tend to believe that when people break down in a big way on the show, the show cuts that out o fthe interview segment. They want to show the viewer the improtant parts of each interview. If a person is crying can't speak clearly for several minutes, the shows producers will not show that as they have to cut segments for time.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:47 PM   #19
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What did you expect her to do? Sob for you? Don't you think she and her surviving family have been through enough? Do you have ANY FRICKIN IDEA what its like? To never be able to sleep at night from nightmares? Ever?
To loose your parents????????? To someone you thought you knew? I'll tell ya what, you sound like the type that would like to befriend the killer, maybe you would like to marry him? Poor, misunderstood young man........he's at Menard Correctional Center Illinois, knock yourself out!!!
You are reatarded. I was only implying that I thought she should be sadder. And another thing, you don't know anything about me, so how can you say I seem like the type to befriend the killer or marry him. Hun, you need to come up with something better than that. Get over yourself and stop being an Idiot. I wasn't trying to be mean to that girl I just found it a little odd she wasn't saddder. I vave seen other segments of Unsolved Mysteries of people losing loved ones, and if they didn't cry, they were pretty shook up.
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Frankly, who are you to judge how sad she should be? Just because she isnt sitting there, balling her eyes out doesnt mean she wasnt terribly sad about losing her parents, some people handle grief differently, that is just how it is. Where your statement generated controversey is because it seemed that you were implying that because she wasnt balling her eyes out that she must have been in on Church murdering her parents.
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Lets not get carried away here. Babydollz simply stated her opinion and I just wanted to clarify for Rella that we weren't implying anything concerning Colleen Ritter. Its just a matter of difference of opinion and I'm sure everyone on the board has a lot of sympathy for Collee Ritter, so lets not argue.
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Frankly, who are you to judge how sad she should be? Just because she isnt sitting there, balling her eyes out doesnt mean she wasnt terribly sad about losing her parents, some people handle grief differently, that is just how it is. Where your statement generated controversey is because it seemed that you were implying that because she wasnt balling her eyes out that she must have been in on Church murdering her parents.
Trust you to stir the pot.
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It could have been that she figured that Rick Church might be watching, and just didn't want to give him the satisfaction of seeing her cry.

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Well SI, we all know you have never gone out of your way to stir the pot before.....
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I am not trying to start stuff with you SI, you were giving me crap, so I gave it right back, dont take it personal.
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Okay back to the actual topic. I am curious to know a bit more about Church's past life before he turned into a murderer. They never really said much like if he had a history of violence. Was this something that had been building up for a long time or did he just snap under the combination of his parents breaking up and Colleen dumping him?
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I would say its the latter - its really unfortunate on many levels what he did. I really can't feel bad for him having murdered two people and attempted to murder more than that but it really is a shame. If he would've taken a few steps back and thought rationally about what he was about to do I really have to wonder whether those events would've ever taken place. I mean its possible that Rick Church had "snap potential" all along or maybe had a borderline personality I don't know. I just think in someways this is so rare and over the top for someone with no criminal history or history of violence to do. I think it may have just been Rick's desire to have the "final word" in his relationship with Ritter.

I'm not saying anyone should sympathize with Church (I certainly don't) but what may seem outrageous to us if we put ourselves in his shoes on the night of the murder with the fight with Colleen any little thing could've set him off and been what sent him over the edge so to speak.
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Wasnt Church actually a college student? I think he had completed his first year of college, I am trying to remember if Colleen was a year younger than him or what, I remember her saying something about how they had dated in high school but when Church graduated and went to college they went to different schools or something, I cant remember if her and Church graduated together or what, Church actually looked like a clean cut kid, I think he treated Colleen well from what she said, it wasnt until she broke up with him that he got all obsessive and **** and then Church's parents splitting up, I think it was just too much for him to take but that is just my opinion based on what was said in the segment.
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Yeah, Church was a college student and Colleen was still in high school. In the segment, they showed Rick calling her from college to check up on her.

As for his appearance, I agree, he was clean cut and didn't really look like the type to become homicidal but looks are deceiving I suppose.

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Frankly, who are you to judge how sad she should be? Just because she isnt sitting there, balling her eyes out doesnt mean she wasnt terribly sad about losing her parents, some people handle grief differently, that is just how it is. Where your statement generated controversey is because it seemed that you were implying that because she wasnt balling her eyes out that she must have been in on Church murdering her parents.
OMG, ok forget I ever said anything since everyone seems to want to start a fight with me about all this. Look I am sorry that I stated an opinion, and for one thing, I didn't even know the girl. I actually only started this discussion to say that Colleen Ritter looked like Kelly Clarkson, and then things got blown out of proportion. Oh and by the way, I would never imply that she was in on her parents murder, I never believed that at all. She just got mixed up with some guy who turned out to be a psycho. That definatley was not her fault. So to anyone that I offended, I am sorry, please don't make this out to be something its not. We are all here to discuss these cases, and what we think not start arguments with one another.
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