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Old 08-30-2017, 08:18 AM   #31
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I think the cops were wrong in their theory that Roger was involved with the masked man and that he planned on staging a robbery. The most obvious reason being why would the guy kill Roger before he ever even got the money? That would make no sense at all. Why would Roger struggle and try to flee from this masked man if he was the one who hired him? So I think someone was planning on blackmailing Roger. That's why he took the $30,000 out of his company's account and transferred it to a private one. I think Roger knew when this guy was supposed to arrive. Which is why he was still at the house at 7 in the morning. I don't think he intended on splitting the money with the masked man. I think he arranged it to look like a robbery to hide whatever was behind the blackmailing. And according to this article, Roger was having an affair. Someone found out and planned on blackmailing him. IMO, the masked man took Roger to the other bedroom with the intent of tying him up and blindfolding him but instead went back into the master bedroom and began questioning his wife. Roger heard the guy getting louder and louder and freaked out and took off running. The intruder heard this and went after him, and shot at him (to scare him, IMO) but the bullet ricocheted and struck him. Roger broke off in a panic and the intruder was forced to murder him.

I think the affair played a big role in Roger's murder. Someone found out about it and threatened to tell Roger's wife unless he paid them. That's why Roger embezzled the money from his company into the private account. I think Roger planned on meeting the guy at his house that day, but he had no idea that the man was going to be armed, or that the man intended to involve his wife in any way.
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http://coloradocommunitymedia.com/st...ger-Dean,75259

This article was one of the best I could find and gives us some insight. Apparently there were numerous people who might have a motive for Roger to be dead.

Apparently his business was grocery distribution. There is also a mention that the unnamed secretary and her son had not been ruled out as suspects, and that there was still an affair going on. I guess that was the part of the Deans' "personal problems" that D.J. did not mention, other than their son's death which I believe was an accident.

I do believe D.J. and Tammy to be completely innocent and that they did not know what might have been going on, even if Roger may have known.

Does anyone remember when Stack mentioned that the FBI believed that the letter was written by a man and woman working together? That would also point towards the secretary and her son.
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I think the cops were wrong in their theory that Roger was involved with the masked man and that he planned on staging a robbery. The most obvious reason being why would the guy kill Roger before he ever even got the money? That would make no sense at all. Why would Roger struggle and try to flee from this masked man if he was the one who hired him? So I think someone was planning on blackmailing Roger. That's why he took the $30,000 out of his company's account and transferred it to a private one. I think Roger knew when this guy was supposed to arrive. Which is why he was still at the house at 7 in the morning. I don't think he intended on splitting the money with the masked man. I think he arranged it to look like a robbery to hide whatever was behind the blackmailing. And according to this article, Roger was having an affair. Someone found out and planned on blackmailing him. IMO, the masked man took Roger to the other bedroom with the intent of tying him up and blindfolding him but instead went back into the master bedroom and began questioning his wife. Roger heard the guy getting louder and louder and freaked out and took off running. The intruder heard this and went after him, and shot at him (to scare him, IMO) but the bullet ricocheted and struck him. Roger broke off in a panic and the intruder was forced to murder him.

I think the affair played a big role in Roger's murder. Someone found out about it and threatened to tell Roger's wife unless he paid them. That's why Roger embezzled the money from his company into the private account. I think Roger planned on meeting the guy at his house that day, but he had no idea that the man was going to be armed, or that the man intended to involve his wife in any way.
Maybe this: Secretary's son finds out and blackmails Roger. Roger moves money to personal account so secretary has no idea who is behind it. Son comes to the house to "rob" Roger. Roger at first cooperates and then gets combative (or not). Son fires shot to scare Roger, but hits him accidentally (or on purpose). Then finishes the job, but ends up running off and not getting the money.

Son later admits to secretary what happened. They send the letter (writing it together) trying to get $ out of D.J., who takes the bait. She drops off the money but they end up chickening out and not taking it.

Son calls Tammy claiming instructions not followed. UM then airs case.
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Roger Dean's case is one of my favourites, it's just so intriguing. The music at the start was kind of creepy too
i cannot remember watching this case so i donīt know if the police ruled out DJ as the killer.

her daughter was home?

if not she couldīve killed him and staged the whole intruder incident, she probably discovered that her husband was stealing from their business and when she confronted him the situation just went wrong.

Later, she couldīve faked the extortion calls so her story had more credibility.

Maybe i shouldīve submit this in the unpopular thread
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This case still confuses me. I'm not sure why the cops believe Roger Dean was in on the whole thing. If he had hired this guy to make it look like a robbery, why did the man shoot him 5 times? And I was confused on the whole $30,000 bit with his company. Did he embezzle the money from his company? And if so, if Roger was truely in on the scheme the whole time, if the "robber" had left Roger alive wouldn't he eventually be implicated or indicted on the embezzlement charges?
I have this episode recorded from analogue cable in the 90s (lifetime) and its fascinating..


@ some points it looks like Roger is involved but like you said IF HE IS,why was he killed?? (An argument with the killer??)


Its interesting after all this time they still havent found the guy!!!

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I have this episode recorded from analogue cable in the 90s (lifetime) and its fascinating..


@ some points it looks like Roger is inolved but like you said IF HE IS,why was he killed?? (An argument with the killer??)


Its interesting after all this time they still havent found the guy!!!
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i cannot remember watching this case so i donīt know if the police ruled out DJ as the killer.

her daughter was home?

if not she couldīve killed him and staged the whole intruder incident, she probably discovered that her husband was stealing from their business and when she confronted him the situation just went wrong.

Later, she couldīve faked the extortion calls so her story had more credibility.

Maybe i shouldīve submit this in the unpopular thread
Interesting points. I believe only Roger and DJ were living in or present in the house at the time of the murder. However I suspect DJ had no idea about what was in what account. The fact she was supposedly asked that question point blank is telling though.
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Can I see it?
I dunno how you would be able to buddy......

Heres info: http://unsolved.com/gallery/roger-dean
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I am in the school that Roger was in on it. If it truly was an unknown intruder, why would you not take out Roger first? Why keep the bigger and stronger of the duo alive and able bodied? I don't think the wife had anything to do with it though.
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If it truly was an unknown intruder, why would you not take out Roger first? Why keep the bigger and stronger of the duo alive and able bodied?
But that's the thing, the intruder did shoot Roger, prior to ever receiving the money. So I have no idea why the cops would think Roger was in on the plan, unless this was some weird assisted suicide type deal.
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I am in the school that Roger was in on it.
Ya yo may be right.. If he wasnt involved im sure they might have found SOMETHING OUT by now!!
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But that's the thing, the intruder did shoot Roger, prior to ever receiving the money. So I have no idea why the cops would think Roger was in on the plan, unless this was some weird assisted suicide type deal.

True - could Roger have been in on it and it went wrong? Like the shooter knew along he was going to take Roger out as he would blab?

I am not trying to be argumentative, I am just puzzled.
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True - could Roger have been in on it and it went wrong? Like the shooter knew along he was going to take Roger out as he would blab?

I am not trying to be argumentative, I am just puzzled.
Yeah this case has always baffled me. Especially the theory the police came up with. Roger struggled with the intruder and made a break for the door before being shot repeatedly. That doesn't seem like he was involved with the plot.
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I just re-watched this one on Lifetime. I remember this case and I have been back and forth the many times I have watched it, he was in on it he wasn't in on it. The letter written and sent 5 years later was from someone else the letter wasn't from someone else. The suicide angle posted here by someone is an interesting one and I think it does hold some merit.

I own my own business and as such to take money out of the business that you own is not embezzlement its how I get paid or if I need cash for something so I don't believe the man embezzled the money. The affair is indeed a very interesting angle and one that was not mentioned in the segment so it adds a twist to my theory. Looking back at it again I am on the side of he was in on it. To have rope marks on one hand not the other makes no sense. Of course that brings up the problem of why he was shot 5 times. Could the intruder have gotten scared and lost his cool could something have been said that was not shared or overheard that changed things. In the heat of the moment things can go south fast and I think this is what happened here. What the motive was on his part is a mystery and I think will remain one.

On the side note that letter was eerie reading the whole thing makes the case even stranger. Based on the letter I do not believe it was someone different I think it was the same person, the belief that they were working with someone else makes sense. Being 5 years later and lets face it I would not be surprised if someone was watching her before and after the letter was sent and she contacted the police maybe thats why they said she didnt follow the directions why nothing else happens could mean a number of different things could she have chosen to no longer work with the police? I am sure I would as well since it seems that very rarely does contacting the police or fbi turn out right.

Time to re-up my amazon subscription so I can watch the original unsolved mysteries. Looking back I added nothing to this thread so clearly I am as lost as I was when I first saw this segment many many years ago.
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The whole thing is interesting!

Will we ever know?
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