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Old 01-13-2011, 03:38 PM   #136
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This is such a sad, sad case. Nyleen was kidnapped and if the letter writer is to be believed as her captor, then she was also sexually abused. To make matters worse, her mother is later raped and murdered while looking for a home in Mexico, yet her death is ruled as a suicide.

What is everyone's opinion on the letter writer? Do you believe it to be a hoax or her actual kidnapper?
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Old 01-16-2011, 12:22 AM   #137
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What is everyone's opinion on the letter writer? Do you believe it to be a hoax or her actual kidnapper?
I've always thought it was the actual kidnapper...but who knows? The letter writer in the Jay Cook/Tanya Van Cuylenborg case was recently proved to be a hoax, I believe.
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:19 PM   #138
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Kianacao, i would like to know which of my cousins you may be? I am also interested to know how you seem to know so much about my family. I am Nyleens brother.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:47 PM   #139
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This is one of the most chilling segments UM ever did, in my opinion. The music at the beginning, the man in the jogging suit, the male/female composites of potential suspects, the phone booth in the dark, and finally, the letter. So disturbing. This doesn't seem like the Henley case to me (though it is mind boggling he got lost within 20 minutes). They had THOUSANDS of searchers comb the woods with no trace. I think animals would have scattered the body eventually if she had been lost in the woods and died of exposure, or she would have eventually been found in the creek. It's like the Amy Bechtel case to quote a police officer from that investigation "We should have found her if she was there. It's a possibility, but I don't think she is." Because of the numerous phone calls and letters, I've been inclined to believe the abductor wrote the letter, but you never know. I think she was certainly abducted and certainly hope she is alive.
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Old 05-26-2012, 05:50 PM   #140
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For starters, yes I believe she was abducted and I lean on the side that the letter from the abductor is legit. Also, you have to remember just how foggy your memory would be at 4 years old. Think about it, Nyleen if she is alive would think that is her father! She really would. My earliest memory is from December 1983 when I was three and a half years old. I met Santa Claus at my Aunt's house. That was a pretty dramatic event having old St. Nick come walking right through the front door. I remember that, but I don't remember that particular Christmas because things were probably just normal. So really, to remember things that happened when you were 3, 4, 5 years old it has to be very dramatic - good or bad. So I doubt Nyleen even remembers the first time she met her abductor.

Secondly, I doubt she was killed by a mountain lion. Wasn't there something mentioned in the segment how there was almost like there was no trace of her being there in the first place? That makes me think that the search dogs wouldn't have come up with a scent of her either. And yes, people have made mistakes in searches, even the police. Think about Mike Reimer being found after all those years or even Ruby and (the guy's name escapes me) being found just metres from where their car was flipped. But since she was no more than a football length away from the adults, and scattered with the kids, I have a hard time believing no one would have detected a mountain lion lurking around. A couple eyewitnesses said they saw a man, not a lion, which ties into the letters as well.

Lastly, people wondering why all the kids would be away from the adults and not being watched it's simple - this was 1983. I was born in 1980, I am not a geezer by any means but the things my parents (and EVERYONE'S parents) gave us a free pass for would make a parent of today get thrown in jail. How many of us can recount dozens of times in the 1980s when our parents told the "kids" to go play in the yard, or at the school, etc. while the adults talk and they didn't think anything about it, neither did we. Or whose mother told them to go wait in the car while she finishes grocery shopping because us kids were driving her nuts?

The paranoia surrounding children didn't exist so much in 1983, nor did it need to. What Nyleen's parents did was the exact same thing every parent did then. What could possibly happen to a large group of kids in the middle of the woods when they are within earshot of the parents? So I am just here to say, Nyleen being left alone was just something that was done without a second thought back then. She was probably around a bunch of older kids (maybe even 8 or 9) and that alone would not make parents worry.
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Not trying to begin a debate or argument on this, but my kids were born in the years from 1978-1989. I never let them out of my sight- not even to play in our yard. I was too afraid someone would take them. They weren't allowed to walk away from me in stores, malls, anywhere-ever until they were in high school. We have a community store about 5 houses down the road from us and they weren't allowed to walk down there alone- ever.

I grew up hearing about child abductions and one that will always stay with me and was a big reason why I didn't let them out of my sight was the Camillia Jo Hand case . I was 13 when it happened in my area.
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I was born in 78, and I acutely remember 'stranger danger' warnings. I was paranoid of being kidnapped as a child. That said, I spent my summers and weekends roaming the neighborhood and hiding out in other peoples' yards. Shoot, me and my best friend even went knocking on stranger's doors asking if we could swim in their pool or to ask for pennies to save the animals (really I kept the pennies for myself, I was rotten). I guess I was more afraid of a bad man in the shadows, and didn't think anybody in my neighborhood would harm me.
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I'm Nyleen's half-sister. We have the same father. Kim is not her bio dad. As for whether or not Nancy Marshall is alive or not, the answer is no. She was found dead in a motel room in Mexico. The mexican authorities say it was suicide... but she was found hanging from a man's belt and was sexually assulted. She also had 2 other children, my half brother being one of them. She would never take her own life. Now, as for Kim, people say he has had a lot to suffer since he lost his daughter, who is not his bio daughter, and his wife... but he was cheating on his wife and he is the one that led Nancy to go to Mexico to look for Nyleen. I believe it was Kim who had Nancy murdered. The mexican authorities wont let the US touch the case. My other concern: That Kim is a predator, who saw Nancy alone with two small children, Nyleen and Nathan, and zoned in... and that he is the one who killed Nyleen. I believe he was abusing her. Anyway, that's a lot to take in, but that's my opinion. Kim, if u want to clear yourself... go take a lie detector test and talk to the authorities.
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I'm Nyleen's half-sister. We have the same father. Kim is not her bio dad. As for whether or not Nancy Marshall is alive or not, the answer is no. She was found dead in a motel room in Mexico. The mexican authorities say it was suicide... but she was found hanging from a man's belt and was sexually assulted. She also had 2 other children, my half brother being one of them. She would never take her own life. Now, as for Kim, people say he has had a lot to suffer since he lost his daughter, who is not his bio daughter, and his wife... but he was cheating on his wife and he is the one that led Nancy to go to Mexico to look for Nyleen. I believe it was Kim who had Nancy murdered. The mexican authorities wont let the US touch the case. My other concern: That Kim is a predator, who saw Nancy alone with two small children, Nyleen and Nathan, and zoned in... and that he is the one who killed Nyleen. I believe he was abusing her. Anyway, that's a lot to take in, but that's my opinion. Kim, if u want to clear yourself... go take a lie detector test and talk to the authorities.
Wow....all I can say is wow!!! Those are mind blowing accusations! Not saying I don't believe them, just never really heard anything about Kim good or bad. Do you have anything to base them on? Is it just something the family has thought or have others had suspicion about him as well? Did Nancy think Kim had anything to do with Nyleen's abduction? I didn't realize he wasn't her biological father. Thanks so much for posting and am curious to hear anything else you'd like to add.
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If even half of those theories are true, I can't even put into words how awful that would be. This case was already beyond tragic. Those are some very strong accusations. I don't know how Kim could have pulled off killing Nyleen given the circumstances of how she disappeared from the picnic.

When exactly was Nancy killed in Mexico? I've always wondered how long is was after Nyleen's disappearance that this horrible thing happened.
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Kena, very interesting. Do you have anymore info? Why do you feel he was molesting nyleen? Hope you come back and post more.
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Wow.
That's a twist I didn't expect.
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If even half of those theories are true, I can't even put into words how awful that would be. This case was already beyond tragic. Those are some very strong accusations. I don't know how Kim could have pulled off killing Nyleen given the circumstances of how she disappeared from the picnic.
Also given the fact that in this case we have a potential unidentified suspect who knew enough information not disclosed to the public to raise the suspicions of authorities when he mailed those letters I believe into CHILD FIND USA.
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Wow.
That's a twist I didn't expect.
Agreed.... Bombshell if true!
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This accusation leads me to two big questions: Where was Kim the day Nyleen disappeared? If he killed her, how was he able to hide her body so that it has never been found to this day?
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