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Old 09-01-2008, 12:00 AM   #16
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That makes sense to me now. When did Alice air?

Sunday Nights against NBC and ABC movies-lol
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That explains why it was a hit!
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That explains why it was a hit!

Not only that it was sandwiched in between one day at a time and the jeffersons-lol
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Not only that it was sandwiched in between one day at a time and the jeffersons-lol

That certainly explains everything. LOL
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That certainly explains everything. LOL

Flo could have been on that sunday night lineup and not treated like a STAND ALONE SHOW-lol
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Flo could have been on that sunday night lineup and not treated like a STAND ALONE SHOW-lol

I agree, it certainly wasn't a strong enough show to be on its own. Just like the Ropers...
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But Linda Lavin's pride would have never allowed it....

Anyhoo, how would you have seen the storyline going?

Flo closes the Yellow Rose and heads back to Phoenix for a last chance with Mel? Or she gets back that hostess job she forsook in Houston?
Why go all the way back to Phoenix? She'd likely sold her trailer, said goodbye and decided she'd be moving on. To go back would have been depressing.
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From what I heard Linda and Polly did not get along.
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"Little House On The Prarie" was a MIGHTY force to be dealt with! It also creamed "Phyllis" in it's sporadic second season, and nearly did in "Rhoda".
"Rhoda" was given another shot, but "Phyllis" just didn't have the youth demographics, and once Judith Lowry ("Mother Dexter") passed away, many viewers tuned out. Too bad. By simply giving Phyllis Lindstrom back some of her edge, I think "Phyllis" could have bounced back.

"Flo" was bounced around a lot, as was "The Ropers". Both shows had some very funny ep's, but overall, were far weaker than their parent shows. I still would like to have all of these shows on dvd.

The real problem time-slot wise for "Flo" and "The Ropers" seems to be the fact that both were so popular to start, with KILLER places in the networks line-up. Once those $$$ and ratings started to roll in, both shows were unwisely bounced around. Despite the flaws, I think both "Flo" and "The Ropers" deserved a better chance than they got. With all four shows, I feel that the writers were spread out too thin, and characterr development was
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"Little House On The Prarie" was a MIGHTY force to be dealt with! It also creamed "Phyllis" in it's sporadic second season, and nearly did in "Rhoda".
"Rhoda" was given another shot, but "Phyllis" just didn't have the youth demographics, and once Judith Lowry ("Mother Dexter") passed away, many viewers tuned out. Too bad. By simply giving Phyllis Lindstrom back some of her edge, I think "Phyllis" could have bounced back.

"Flo" was bounced around a lot, as was "The Ropers". Both shows had some very funny ep's, but overall, were far weaker than their parent shows. I still would like to have all of these shows on dvd.

The real problem time-slot wise for "Flo" and "The Ropers" seems to be the fact that both were so popular to start, with KILLER places in the networks line-up. Once those $$$ and ratings started to roll in, both shows were unwisely bounced around. Despite the flaws, I think both "Flo" and "The Ropers" deserved a better chance than they got. With all four shows, I feel that the writers were spread out too thin, and characterr development was
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Flo and Ropers were FORCED SPINOFFS which is why they failed. Rhoda on the otherhand was a spinoff that wasn't forced just a new opportunity for Valerie Harper.
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I see your point. Still, the networks panic at sliding ratings did make them bounce the shows around too much. I remember "The Ropers" were put up against "CHiP's"!

I recall reading that the producers of "Alice" brought up a possible spin-off for Flo early on. She said she wrote a back story for Flo, most of which wasn't used. I thought "Flo" was better than "The Ropers", but it's just my opinion. I enjoy both. As Linda Lavin was more than a little miffed at Polly's popularity, it was definately "forced". It's a shame. Belle and Jolene were just fine, but the magic wasn't there anymore., in my opinion. I wonder how Lavin feels now?

I know Norman Fell refused to leave "Three's Company". He had a garauntee that he and Audra could return if the show failed, but the time limit had run out. Folks had taken to Furley, and he was cheaper than paying two salaries!

"Rhoda" and "Phyllis" might have bombed at the gate, but certainly the characters would have been returned to TMTMS. As it was, they were both fine fat hits in their first seasons.

Valerie Harper was extremely relunctant to strike out on her own, as she was very happy where she was. Nancy Walker told her: "Relax, kid. It's only television!".

I was sorry to see Joe go, as I think there were many more areas of the relationship that the writers could have explored. I'm also sorry that Ida ever left, but Walker really wanted her own show. These two events sacrificed a couple of characters I liked from Joe's construction comapny, but besides that, caused the series to lose momentum that I feel it never regained, despie some fine ep's.
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I even heard that Polly Holliday was offered to come back and rejoin Alice after Flo was canceled but she didn't want to.

But I think it would have been a little unfair to Celia Weston *who was already on Alice as Jolene at the time* They would have prolly had to fire her. Or maybe just kept her as a frequent guest.
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I know Diane Ladd wasn't feeling it. This was the conversation between her and Polly Holliday as Diane hugs Polly:

Diane: Goodbye, Polly.
Polly: Good luck.
Diane: (thinking) Oh my God!!! What now!!!

Those words came out of the mouth of Diane Ladd herself.
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I would at least like for Flo to return to Alice and star the kid on the show too.

Thank you for reminding me of Flo. I had totally forgotten about it until I read this thread. Yeah, I remember watching it and the first epsiode of it. I was living in Minnesota at the time and we had a blizzard that same evening.
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I agree, it certainly wasn't a strong enough show to be on its own. Just like the Ropers...
It's my guess that Ropers had the lowest ratings of them all!
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