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Old 02-21-2019, 12:55 PM   #31
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The Christopher Day case infuriated and saddened me at levels I've rarely felt. I don't know if I've ever hated a woman so much. What she did to this man and their child should be a ticket to a death sentence for HER. The fact that the boy died before his dad could see him again.................
If you go back and read the Christophe Day thread, you'll see that Bill Day's daughter posted that their family can't be 100% certain if Christophe is dead.

And that was my thought when I first read the text update. How can Bill know for sure that Christophe died? All he had was Betty's word. And she has zero credibility.
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If you go back and read the Christophe Day thread, you'll see that Bill Day's daughter posted that their family can't be 100% certain if Christophe is dead.

And that was my thought when I first read the text update. How can Bill know for sure that Christophe died? All he had was Betty's word. And she has zero credibility.

As a single Dad who lives for his children and their happiness/success the fact that he can't even believe what he was told and is still without answers is completely mind numbing. She is the epitome of evil.
I hope this case gets revamped and rebroadcast in the new version coming. This man deserves to have at least SOME peace of mind.
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The Kentucky bordello murders update is the one I can think of currently that deeply angers me
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As a single Dad who lives for his children and their happiness/success the fact that he can't even believe what he was told and is still without answers is completely mind numbing. She is the epitome of evil.
I hope this case gets revamped and rebroadcast in the new version coming. This man deserves to have at least SOME peace of mind.
She is probably the single worst person featured on UM who didn't commit murder, at least to our knowledge. I feel so bad for poor Bill Day: he is second only to Gord McAllister in terms of the raw pain you could feel radiating from him.
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I just watched the segment about the Santa Claus trying to find his real-life daughter, who was given up for adoption without his knowledge while he served in WWII.

In the updates, it states that he later discovered his daughter was killed in an explosion at age 18. That just broke my heart. Of all the ways an 18-year-old could die...an explosion?
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I just watched the segment about the Santa Claus trying to find his real-life daughter, who was given up for adoption without his knowledge while he served in WWII.

In the updates, it states that he later discovered his daughter was killed in an explosion at age 18. That just broke my heart. Of all the ways an 18-year-old could die...an explosion?
Well, that whole story.. She married a guy like 12 years older than her, married him so that he would avoid Contributing to Delinquency of a minor charges.. They were only married 5 months and were set to divorce.. He stole about 10 sticks of dynamite from his job and blew them both up, and killed a little girl who was just walking by.

Just.. Interesting.. That happened right about here.

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The photo store is where Elaine worked, was Donti's Restaurant in '57. the Antique store is where he was parked in front of. The girl who was killed was thrown through the plate glass window of what I would assume is now that bakery across the street at 528, apparently was a clothing store at the time.

One other.. Kinda weird thing.. Her husband's name was.. DePew. Arthur DePew.
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Well, that whole story.. She married a guy like 12 years older than her, married him so that he would avoid Contributing to Delinquency of a minor charges.. They were only married 5 months and were set to divorce.. He stole about 10 sticks of dynamite from his job and blew them both up, and killed a little girl who was just walking by.

Just.. Interesting.. That happened right about here.

https://goo.gl/maps/fZNzGyp5JaS2

The photo store is where Elaine worked, was Donti's Restaurant in '57. the Antique store is where he was parked in front of. The girl who was killed was thrown through the plate glass window of what I would assume is now that bakery across the street at 528, apparently was a clothing store at the time.

One other.. Kinda weird thing.. Her husband's name was.. DePew. Arthur DePew.
That makes it even worse! That puts this whole situation just slightly below the caliber of Christophe Day!
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I really wish the Amazon updates included dates of when suspects/witnesses/victims either got released from prison, died or just had more information. Are the producers too afraid to show how old the show is?
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That makes it even worse! That puts this whole situation just slightly below the caliber of Christophe Day!
Another funny (Funny odd, not funny ha-ha) part of the story.. The owner of Donti's Restaurant.. I found a newspaper article about him beating a customer with a coffee cup about 2 months before the bombing happened. So.. Somehow I get the idea that wasn't the greatest area to be in at the time.
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I got angry at the end of the Tracy Kirkpatrick segment when it read across the screen that the man calling himself "Sean/Don" had been cleared as a suspect.

Excuse me, but the man made a confession tape. What more evidence do you need?
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Excuse me, but the man made a confession tape. What more evidence do you need?
Haven't we learned by now that many people do falsely confess to crimes? Perhaps he was trying to frame someone else and otherwise knew nothing about the case other than what was common knowledge or maybe he is just delusional? After all, if he really did "hang around the store" a lot, surely somebody would have noticed this especially since it was a ladies clothing store. There is also the fact that there was no sign of a struggle: according to the confession she would surely have had defensive wounds because they were "arguing" (read: face to face) before the knife came out.

As much as we consider ourselves to be UM experts we are not detectives, psychologists or a forensic scientists. There are some real sickos in the world but that doesn't automatically make them murderers.
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Haven't we learned by now that many people do falsely confess to crimes? Perhaps he was trying to frame someone else and otherwise knew nothing about the case other than what was common knowledge or maybe he is just delusional? After all, if he really did "hang around the store" a lot, surely somebody would have noticed this especially since it was a ladies clothing store. There is also the fact that there was no sign of a struggle: according to the confession she would surely have had defensive wounds because they were "arguing" (read: face to face) before the knife came out.

As much as we consider ourselves to be UM experts we are not detectives, psychologists or a forensic scientists. There are some real sickos in the world but that doesn't automatically make them murderers.
What was the goober in the JonBenet Ramsey case?

Look at the Jessie Miskelley confessions for a classic example of cops leading someone to a confession.

Confessions are only as good as the source they come from. In the above, you had one person mentally ill and the other mentally disabled.
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The fact that Newton Alfred Winn was released after a relatively short stint in prison and Annie Laurie Hearin has never been found is infuriating.
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