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Old 02-15-2019, 09:38 PM   #16
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There's quite a few I can think of; all of these cases involve horrible murders that should've led to life sentences for the killers. Yet somehow, all are now free.

David Harry Fisher - he befriended and later brutally murdered teenager Laura Burbank. He pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to twenty years in prison. He was a model prisoner, so he had his sentence reduced and was sent to a minimum security facility. He escaped four years later but was captured thanks to Unsolved Mysteries. Based on his sentence, it is believed that he was paroled in the late 1990s.

Jerry Gervasoni - he was the POS that killed his girlfriend Paula Pasciak and hid her body under her mother's bed. He was caught seven years later after being featured on Unsolved Mysteries. He was convicted of her murder and was originally sentenced to life in prison. However, his sentence was later reduced and he was paroled after serving just six years. Fortunately, he's now deceased.

Eva Shoen - she was the U-haul heiress who was killed in her home in Telluride. Thanks to a viewer tip, her killer was identified Frank Marquis. He was a convicted rapist who apparently killed Eva in a botched rape attempt. He pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to twenty-four years. Despite the fact that he was a convicted rapist and killer, he was paroled after serving just 17 years.

Nancy Manni - she was the ship steward who was found dead in the Chesapeake Bay. Her killer turned out to be John O'Meara, who claimed that she drowned after falling off of his boat. However, he allegedly told two informants that he had thrown her overboard after she rejected his advances. He then ran her body over several times with his boat. He pleaded guilty to murder and was sentenced to fifteen years in prison; he was later released.

David Freeman - he was the preacher who basically took over farmer Tim Good's life, forcing him to live in a small basement room while he and his family lived upstairs. He stole large amounts of money from Tim and later murdered him. He was captured after being featured on Unsolved Mysteries. However, he pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to just ten years in prison. He has also since been released.
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There's quite a few I can think of; all of these cases involve horrible murders that should've led to life sentences for the killers. Yet somehow, all are now free.

David Harry Fisher - he befriended and later brutally murdered teenager Laura Burbank. He pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to twenty years in prison. He was a model prisoner, so he had his sentence reduced and was sent to a minimum security facility. He escaped four years later but was captured thanks to Unsolved Mysteries. Based on his sentence, it is believed that he was paroled in the late 1990s.

Jerry Gervasoni - he was the POS that killed his girlfriend Paula Pasciak and hid her body under her mother's bed. He was caught seven years later after being featured on Unsolved Mysteries. He was convicted of her murder and was originally sentenced to life in prison. However, his sentence was later reduced and he was paroled after serving just six years. Fortunately, he's now deceased.

Eva Shoen - she was the U-haul heiress who was killed in her home in Telluride. Thanks to a viewer tip, her killer was identified Frank Marquis. He was a convicted rapist who apparently killed Eva in a botched rape attempt. He pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to twenty-four years. Despite the fact that he was a convicted rapist and killer, he was paroled after serving just 17 years.

Nancy Manni - she was the ship steward who was found dead in the Chesapeake Bay. Her killer turned out to be John O'Meara, who claimed that she drowned after falling off of his boat. However, he allegedly told two informants that he had thrown her overboard after she rejected his advances. He then ran her body over several times with his boat. He pleaded guilty to murder and was sentenced to fifteen years in prison; he was later released.

David Freeman - he was the preacher who basically took over farmer Tim Good's life, forcing him to live in a small basement room while he and his family lived upstairs. He stole large amounts of money from Tim and later murdered him. He was captured after being featured on Unsolved Mysteries. However, he pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to just ten years in prison. He has also since been released.

All perfect examples. Makes me sick to think about it.

Another one I just thought of, Gary Ridgeway. I live in Tacoma, WA and grew up when the Green River Killings were all taking place. Anyway, what irritates me about his case was that in the end, the prosecution made a deal with the defense. If he plead guilty to ALL of the murders, they wouldnít seek the death penalty. Trouble with that is that many of the cases couldnít be tied in any way to Ridgeway. As there was at least one other good suspect (as shown in UM), and possibly more, this seems like a weird move. They had enough on him for the death penalty as it was with the stuff they could prove. The only reason they offered the plea deal IMO was to close the books on the rest of the cases. So in theory, many more killings could have been committed by others and they are now marked as ďsolvedĒ. To be fair, most probably were Ridgeway, but as I understand it, the MO varied enough that we canít say for sure.
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Remember also that the "Truth in Sentencing" reforms didn't come around until the mid 90's or so. Someone sentenced to 10 years for a violent crime in 1990 might do 2 years and then be released on parole.

Same person sentenced now, usually does 8 1/2 years.

Of course, some of these same laws are why an 18 year old is on a sex offender registry for life because he was sleeping with his 16 year old girlfriend on his birthday. It was legal for them to have sex on Tuesday, but not Wednesday.

So.. This goes both ways.
Oh God your last part is why I will never ever support Call Me By Your Name as any sort of ~~beautiful~~ coming of age romantic masterpiece in book or film form. Its straight up pedophilia regardless of age yet ppl are all "B-B-BUT THE AGE OF CONSENT IN ITALY THO??!!!"
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Oh God your last part is why I will never ever support Call Me By Your Name as any sort of ~~beautiful~~ coming of age romantic masterpiece in book or film form. Its straight up pedophilia regardless of age yet ppl are all "B-B-BUT THE AGE OF CONSENT IN ITALY THO??!!!"
Ok.. So.. I was not, and am not familiar with that.. I had to do the wikipedia lookup on it.. But.. a 24 year old and a 17 year old?

Someone's probably saying "Holy crap, Grandpa was a straight up pedophile"

so.. I'm assuming there's something I'm missing to that story?

I document cemeteries.. You'd be awfully shocked at how many people were married at 17 just 50 years ago. And a fair handful at 16 100 years ago.
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Christophe Day update definitely stands out.
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Christophe Day update definitely stands out.
Yeah. That one I don't get. I would need a lawyer to explain this one to me.

The update says because she was never served Bill's custody papers, the only thing she could be charged with was passport fraud. But she couldn't be served the papers because she had already gone in to hiding with their son ILLEGALY.

Before the kidnapping, the last time Betty stood before a judge, he threatened to throw her in jail if she kept denying Bill visits with his son. So she responds by kidnapping the child and eventually fleeing the country for 11 years. It does not compute that this could result in no jail time.
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Ok.. So.. I was not, and am not familiar with that.. I had to do the wikipedia lookup on it.. But.. a 24 year old and a 17 year old?

Someone's probably saying "Holy crap, Grandpa was a straight up pedophile"

so.. I'm assuming there's something I'm missing to that story?

I document cemeteries.. You'd be awfully shocked at how many people were married at 17 just 50 years ago. And a fair handful at 16 100 years ago.
It is still messed up. Movie made it worse.
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The fact that Gilbert Ortiz went through literal hell to be a father to his son only to have his son end up assaulting and putting him in the hospital years later.
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The fact that Gilbert Ortiz went through literal hell to be a father to his son only to have his son end up assaulting and putting him in the hospital years later.
That is insane! I had no idea this happened until reading your post. Gilbert seemed like a good guy who was put through a terrible ordeal. Makes you wonder if there isn't more to that story and Gilbert in general.
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The fact that Gilbert Ortiz went through literal hell to be a father to his son only to have his son end up assaulting and putting him in the hospital years later.
That one doesn't tick me off as much as it just plain depresses me.

And as much as people might want to be angry with Jonathan, he is just another victim of Elizabeth. He was kidnapped for 8 years with a wackadoodle mother who, no doubt, made him think Gilbert was some kind of monster and the only way to escape him was to poison him. When he was finally located, the damage had already long been done. Jonathan loses his mother and is now sent to live with the "monster." It's no wonder he lashed out and his life became a mess.

I continue to hope that the UM wiki page is mistaken when they say after being denied parole in 2010 and 2014, Elizabeth has since been released. I have never been able to find another source that states that. But if she's a free woman today.......
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That one doesn't tick me off as much as it just plain depresses me.

And as much as people might want to be angry with Jonathan, he is just another victim of Elizabeth. He was kidnapped for 8 years with a wackadoodle mother who, no doubt, made him think Gilbert was some kind of monster and the only way to escape him was to poison him. When he was finally located, the damage had already long been done. Jonathan loses his mother and is now sent to live with the "monster." It's no wonder he lashed out and his life became a mess.

I continue to hope that the UM wiki page is mistaken when they say after being denied parole in 2010 and 2014, Elizabeth has since been released. I have never been able to find another source that states that. But if she's a free woman today.......
Couldn't agree more... very sad situation.
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There are so many of the Prime updates that are just enragingly ending with "They have served their time and been released" that I can't single out a single one from memory. They blend together, that's how bad it is.

If I had to name an "update", even though it hasn't made it to UM officially, it's the Bible/Freeman one we got last year. Kept alive for days with polaroids floating around town and no one saying a thing about it.
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There are so many of the Prime updates that are just enragingly ending with "They have served their time and been released" that I can't single out a single one from memory. They blend together, that's how bad it is.

If I had to name an "update", even though it hasn't made it to UM officially, it's the Bible/Freeman one we got last year. Kept alive for days with polaroids floating around town and no one saying a thing about it.
I couldnít agree with you more. I am a fairly cynical person, so it is rare that I am surprised by disturbing developments in a case (I tend to expect the worst, hope for the best), but the Freeman/Bible case is beyond me. How can that many people see blatant evidence of something so horrific happening and not do anything about it? Vague stories are one thing, but as I understand it, polaroids of these two girls being held captive had been shown to many people over the years. While there may have been some nefarious characters involved, I canít believe that someone didnít come foraward earlier in this case. Itís very sad.
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The only one that stands out in my mind.. And.. Once again, you all will have to help me with the names. Guy was a cop and murdered the woman who lived in his duplex who he was also apparently dating..

Greg Webb, that's it... Still, he wound up serving 9 years.

but.. Alot of these cases are 25 years old. Even someone sentenced to 25 to life is up for parole now or close to it.
Blame "Good Time" laws (Nebraska is one such state that uses this)

https://definitions.uslegal.com/g/good-time/
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The Christopher Day case infuriated and saddened me at levels I've rarely felt. I don't know if I've ever hated a woman so much. What she did to this man and their child should be a ticket to a death sentence for HER. The fact that the boy died before his dad could see him again.................
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