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Old 04-17-2019, 09:14 AM   #1
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Default Importance of economy and wealth in live-action sitcoms

The likes of Married... with Children, Taxi, Roseanne, Grace Under Fire, and The Middle made income, wealth, and budgeting more prominent. Of course, they focus primarily on the working-class.

I read an article saying that there aren't enough shows about working-class characters: https://www.vulture.com/2018/05/work...-timeline.html

This inspires me to create a thread about how a sitcom can make wealth and budgeting prominent or irrelevant, no matter how much "escapism" is inserted.

I've been thinking: A show like Gilligan's Island displays an economic system (or lack of it) on an uncharted island. Well, it focuses more primarily on finding available resources and survival than about economy itself... because it is about the island itself and characters on the island.

What about shows, like Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie? They must have episodes tackling budgets and economy, right?

I don't know what to say about Modern Family and Friends, which doesn't make wealth a prominent issue very much. How does Seinfeld make economy an issue?
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Don't viewers wish to dispense with the concept of income disparity for half an hour whilst lying on the settee in front of the television?
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There's a Friends episode in which Joey, Rachel and Phoebe confront Chandler, Monica, and Ross about their relative poverty and how it makes it hard for them to participate in certain activities.

Gilligan's Island is interesting. The Howells cash on hand is useless, yet they still command privilege, right down to having Gilligan in a little house boy jacket sometimes.

The earlIer days of TV had some more working class shows, of course The Honeymooners but also things like Amos 'n Andy and Life with Luigi. Those sorts of shows got pushed out, but the rural and militsry shows featured people who weren't professionsls.
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The list is flawed because any list of working class sitcoms has to include Mama's Family.

A list of current working class shows should include Young Sheldon. George is a high school football coach and Mary is a church secretary. Part of the premise of the show is that they can't afford to send Sheldon to an expensive private school so he goes to public high school at 9 years old.
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What about shows, like Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie? They must have episodes tackling budgets and economy, right?
I don't think so. Darrin was an advertising executive and Tony was an astronaut at a time when that was the most glamorous job in the country. Plus, the women could blink or nose wiggle any money woes away.

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George was on unemployment and living with his parents in the early seasons, but it was mostly because George was lazy not because of a bad economy. Jerry always said he was working harder at being unemployed that he would if he just got a job. Once he fell into the job with the Yankees, he never had money problems again.

On Friends, Joey always had money problems until he got the gig on DOOL. He was basically living off of Chandler.
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The likes of Married... with Children, Taxi, Roseanne, Grace Under Fire, and The Middle made income, wealth, and budgeting more prominent. Of course, they focus primarily on the working-class.

I read an article saying that there aren't enough shows about working-class characters: https://www.vulture.com/2018/05/work...-timeline.html

This inspires me to create a thread about how a sitcom can make wealth and budgeting prominent or irrelevant, no matter how much "escapism" is inserted.

I've been thinking: A show like Gilligan's Island displays an economic system (or lack of it) on an uncharted island. Well, it focuses more primarily on finding available resources and survival than about economy itself... because it is about the island itself and characters on the island.

What about shows, like Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie? They must have episodes tackling budgets and economy, right?

I don't know what to say about Modern Family and Friends, which doesn't make wealth a prominent issue very much. How does Seinfeld make economy an issue?
I think it's very apparent that the Modern Family family is well off, especially Jay and Gloria's family. With Blackish, it was also likely an intent to not show a struggling Black family but pretty upper income.

Friends was more unrealistic in what was showing, but there were theories that Monica inherited a rent controlled apartment.

Bewitched was middle class leaning upper income. Darrin always made Samantha try to do tasks like cooking the hard way without help. And there was no housekeeper on the show.
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