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Old 11-13-2017, 10:42 PM   #1
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Default A Couple of Things about Beaver on TV

1. Interesting that there were a lot of dated references on this episode: references to Bennett Cerf and Jack Paar, and the infamous (and edited out for many years) Gilbert comment about Angela Valentine wearing a Jackie Kennedy wig. (Trivia--do we all know who those first two guys are???)

2. When Beaver was reciting his classmates at the end of Teenage Forum, he mentioned Kathy Gregory. Interesting that Wally dated her, and she fell into the fountain. She didn't seem like an eighth grader. And what eight grader would be allowed to go to an all night party?
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I noticed the Kathy Gregory reference and possibly the writers didn’t know they had used the name in Beaver On TV when they named a character in All Night Party. I believe that Kathy in Beaver’s class was Susie in another episode.

I know Jack Paar and saw him on YouTube never got to see the show way back but knew he was emotional. I think he resigned on air. Saw Bennett Cerf on What’s My Line on BUZZR.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:20 PM   #3
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There were supposedly crying incidents for both...maybe they were around the time of filming this episode.

I've seen a lot of the WMLs on GSN when they showed it, but I never saw Cerf break down. There was one episode where Henry Morgan was a guest panelist and cut Cerf off when he was introducing John Daly (I call this episode "Rude Henry" and I have it on a DVD somewhere). Not much they could do, since it was a live airing at the time, in 1967.
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I could never understand how a kids TV show could be on Thursdays at 11AM...I know the Cleavers were somewhat affluent but did they have DVR service in '63?
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Normally those kinds of shows would be on the weekend, tape-delayed or not.
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Speaking of Beaver On TV Gilbert talks to a kid in class and calls him Brad. Later the same kid is in Uncle Billy’s Visit and he’s Alan.

Would have liked to have seen Rude Henry. think of Dorothy Kilgallen on What’s My Line and how she died so unexpectedly or was murdered. I saw the show after Fred Allen died on the street the day before but the show went on.
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Old 11-15-2017, 03:26 PM   #7
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I think Dorothy Kilgallen committed suicide, or was taking too many pills.

Yes, I saw Mrs. Rayburn call "Brad" Alan. I didn't make that association, but I knew that wasn't the kid that had briefly played Alan (Boothby, I think). I think the last time that kid had been on was in the Tell it to Ella episode. He was also in the sixth season clothing drive episode (again, I think)(which is an early production shown late in the season).
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The writers loved the name Alan. That guy Alan Boothby in Long Distance Call, Night in the Woods and Sweatshirt Monsters and that Alan/Brad guy in the movies when Beaver let’s Gilbert in. Also in Beaver’s Prep School a kid raises his hand to say he wrote on the card wrong and his name is Alan. I think in Clothing Drive it’s Kevin and Michael. I believe Wally mentions an Alan once or twice.
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That's right about clothing drive...I can't keep all these new kids straight!

I know that nerdy kid Mrs. Rayburn called Alan is the same kid from the episode where Beaver got the football award. He kept wishing it was over.
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Just as in Hazel they loved the name Harry. Deidra's husband, son Harold, Mr. B's law partner, and many other incidental characters were all named Harry.
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Yeah, and practically every sitcom has a Martha or Aunt Martha (but Hazel didn't).
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Though they almost did call Hazel's BarB-Q sauce "Aunt Martha's Bar-B-Q Sauce". I think, least that's the way I remember them trying to first come up with a name, before using Hazel's name for the junk.
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Maybe June's Aunt Martha is also Lucy Ricardo's aunt, whom she named Aunt Martha's Old Fashioned Salad Dressing after.
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