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Old 01-20-2011, 01:54 AM   #1
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Did anyone else notice the way Estelle Getty/Sophia "mellowed out" in the series? In the first seasons, she was extremely blunt, often rude, and REALLY had a sharp delivery (this was extremely evident in the first season). In the latter seasons, she seemed more mellow and like "one of the girls", but her original personality remained, although more toned-down. I wonder why the character was changed? I preferred her in the first couple of seasons much more.
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Definitely. Aside from that, her appearance even changed some in the 6th and 7th seasons- not sure if that was because of the dementia. Also, I didn't like the wigs as much in those seasons as much as the other seasons.

Dorothy also wasn't as abrasive/sarcastic in later seasons as she had been in the first four- in season 5, part of that may have been related to the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. In seasons 6 and 7,she got a little bit back, but still not the same. That also could have been related to the change in writers.
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Definitely. Aside from that, her appearance even changed some in the 6th and 7th seasons- not sure if that was because of the dementia. Also, I didn't like the wigs as much in those seasons as much as the other seasons.

Dorothy also wasn't as abrasive/sarcastic in later seasons as she had been in the first four- in season 5, part of that may have been related to the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. In seasons 6 and 7,she got a little bit back, but still not the same. That also could have been related to the change in writers.
Yeah, her wigs had more of a curly appearance. I also noticed her accent was toned down as well. She went from being more of an extra to the 3 girls to acting like one of the girls.

Dorothy's changes I haven't noticed, but I sort of do since you mentioned it. As a huge fan of Maude, I noticed that in the earlier seasons, especially the first episode, she acted a lot like her at times. Her appearance was not good in season 5 either (she greatly improved in 7).
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I would agree on this with Sophia. In fact, to me it seems like the whole idea of the damage from her stroke (where she lost the capability of censoring what she says) was completely gone after the first season.
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Yeah, they totally abandoned that idea.

Here's a decent comparison....here's Sophia in the earlier seasons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKA_ZunYHIg

and the latter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvYK1...eature=related

Something's just....different. Maybe it was just age and her health.
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I think Estelle was good for the role, but the writing and character type had A LOT to do with her success. If you watch her in scenes, she is clearly at the bottom of the acting pact of the show. She could deliver a zinger with gusto but lacked when it came to anything more nuanced than that.
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