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tanner68 · 05-19-2012, 01:17 AM

If I were a parent of a young child I would be more concerned about whats on the RADIO than with television. With TV parents do have control between the content ratings, V-Chip, family friendly channels and so forth. Radio on the other hand...outside the home & car much less control. Just recently I was at a Dollar Tree in Colorado. They had the radio on tuned to a local Denver rock station. Over the store sound system I heard the morning djs talking about sex sex sex and more sex. OK those with kids in the sotre can always leave and go to another store..then again chances are the next store's radio is airing the same thing.

Funny how stores like Target and Walmart on their TV's its usually family friendly stuff being shown YET in the stereo boombox section its not unusual for it to be tuned to a radio station that isn't exactly family friendly.

Yong Fang · 05-19-2012, 01:54 AM

Apartment 23 is a well crafted show with good actors and gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous women as leads. The bitch on the show is a schemer, and that is part of the joke.

GCB was cancelled because it was a crappy show. I watched the pilot and it sucked. Did have Annie Potts in it, but the show was garbage. Cancelled. Go away.

What are Family Values anyway? Every family has different values and different ways to go about things. If you are a prude who doesn't like people saying four letter words. turn off the TV and hide in a cave.

EmoJoe · 05-19-2012, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Yong Fang

Apartment 23 is a well crafted show with good actors and gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous women as leads. The bitch on the show is a schemer, and that is part of the joke.

GCB was cancelled because it was a crappy show. I watched the pilot and it sucked. Did have Annie Potts in it, but the show was garbage. Cancelled. Go away.

What are Family Values anyway? Every family has different values and different ways to go about things. If you are a prude who doesn't like people saying four letter words. turn off the TV and hide in a cave.

Yeah, Apartment 23's a great example of a show that uses edgy humor to its advantage. The show's raunchy, but it never feels cheap because the raunchiness is very well-crafted and isn't thrown in your face. GCB on the other hand - I haven't seen it but from what I've heard of it seems like a good example of a show going for shock over quality.

factsoflife · 05-19-2012, 05:23 PM

I have much more issues with shows like Hannah Montana or Wizards of Waverly Place on the DISNEY channel that say they are for families but often feature characters who are poor role models, are rude and insensitive and use fowl language like the R-word, especially over shows geared for adults that air at 930pm.

Leslie Eckhardt · 05-21-2012, 09:28 AM

I am a 60 year old man who prefers classic TV shows like Lucy, Hazel and The Golden Girls. I have sampled Don't Trust The B---- In Apartment 23 and GCB. I rather liked GCB and couldn't stand the former, but people have the right to see these shows and form their own opinions of them. There are devices on most TVs and DVD players to limit content inappropriate to children, who I believe should not be allowed to see certain programs. I gave "Don't Trust" a scathing review on IMBD, but I believe that we should have freedom of choice. I like early John Waters films, but many people find these to be disgusting. To each his own.

factsoflife · 05-21-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Eckhardt

I am a 60 year old man who prefers classic TV shows like Lucy, Hazel and The Golden Girls. I have sampled Don't Trust The B---- In Apartment 23 and GCB. I rather liked GCB and couldn't stand the former, but people have the right to see these shows and form their own opinions of them. There are devices on most TVs and DVD players to limit content inappropriate to children, who I believe should not be allowed to see certain programs. I gave "Don't Trust" a scathing review on IMBD, but I believe that we should have freedom of choice. I like early John Waters films, but many people find these to be disgusting. To each his own.

Finally! A level-headed answer to a thread like this! It drives me nuts when people are all "nobody should be allowed to watch this or see that because we have to protect our children." I mean honestly, when did it become society's job to parent everybody's children?

USATVFAN · 05-21-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by factsoflife

Finally! A level-headed answer to a thread like this! It drives me nuts when people are all "nobody should be allowed to watch this or see that because we have to protect our children." I mean honestly, when did it become society's job to parent everybody's children?

@Leslie Eckhardt and @factsoflife

I agree with both of you. We should be allowed to watch what we want too and not be told that we can not watch them or that we should not let our kid watch them. only parents can choose/Decide what their kids watch and parents themselves can watch. Nobody should be allowed to tell other parent what their Kids can and can not watch. That why I don't like the PTC! It's like they are trying to tell us what we can't watch and telling us how to parent our children's and what they and we can not watch! We know what is right for our children's not them! and we can make our own decision with out some group coming and telling us that we can not let our children's watch that. sorry but Stay out of my business, I know what is right for my own kids not You(PTC).. They have a thing called a remote if parents don't like how just turn he channel.

Coffeecup · 05-21-2012, 02:40 PM

If you are a prude who doesn't like people saying four letter words. turn off the TV and hide in a cave.

----

I hope I am not that bad. By the way where would I find a cave?

One poster mentioned that in the past, families had 1 tv set and and members would watch the show together. Now with each member having a set, interest in a show would be different. You have to change somewhat to grow. I sometimes see older shows and wonder How did I watch this as a child. Years ago I was watching the Dynasty spin out The Colbys and up pops Charlton Hestons tv wife out a bathtub with very little on. The wife was barely covered but it was a sexy scene. Never see that in the 60's .

Jericho-79 · 05-21-2012, 02:53 PM

Straightlaced people have been complaining about the lack of morality in TV programming since the 90's.

If I remember correctly, the only TV program that conservative groups lauded in the past was 7th Heaven.

factsoflife · 05-21-2012, 02:59 PM

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If I remember correctly, the only TV program that conservative groups lauded in the past was 7th Heaven.

7th Heaven, but also Touched by An Angel, Promised Land, Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman and I'm sure there were others.

But yes, they kept saying "all shows have to be like 7th Heaven", "7th Heaven is what TV must look like." It's insane.

Jericho-79 · 05-21-2012, 04:01 PM

Also, I was an avid viewer of the WWF back in the late 90's and early 2000's. It was very raunchy and Jerry Springer-like back then.

Then the Parents Television Council (headed by Brent Bozell) started a campaign against the WWF for its indecency.

The PTC was ultimately semi-successful in censoring WWF programming. Over the past few years, the WWF/E has become more "family-friendly" in its content.

The destruction of a fun product.

GQ28 · 05-21-2012, 09:04 PM

Most of the male characters on sitcoms these days, act to darn feminine. No masculinity and too many reality shows!

These sitcoms today aren't funny! Then the one funny show they had, THM they fired the lead character! With the exception of Y&R, I stick with the classics!

jasonbigley · 05-22-2012, 01:26 AM

I like a variety of programs. If I like a show, im not going to stop watching it because they say 1 offensive thing. If they say something I dont like, I ignore it or change the channel. Lets take The Facts Of Life for example, they had some storylines that were considered risque at the time. But they taught some good lessons. Threes Company was considered risque at the time, but if you compare that to whats on TV now a days, that is REALLY mild. Threes Company also taught about good friendships, having clean fun and caring for one another. I was a fan of Melrose Place when it was on the air, the storylines on that show were way out there. But I realized its television and television (most of the time), doesnt represent real life. Melrose Place DID have some tender moments too.

You know, for some reason I cant explain, maybe the effects or the writing, but alot of the TV shows from yesteryear, seemed more realistic to me than most of the shows on the air now.

ThomasE · 02-06-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Yeah, but there was a time when airing stuff like you saw in Friends would have gotten you thrown in jail, if not the electric chair. It's called responsibility.

Good point!!!

nerdstein · 02-06-2013, 06:13 PM

I grew up in the 90s, but I really don't see much of difference between then and now. Granted, I don't watch childrens programming, or any (newer) series that could remotely be considered as 'family-oriented' but I do sample a lot of shows.

If you go back and look at some of those nicktoons that aired, many were incredibly vulgar. Ren and Stimpy and Rockos Modern Life had all kinds of sexual innuendo and animated violence, and both were aimed at kids (but found a large audience of young adults). Married With Children was a wildly popular sitcom that ran in prime time - but I hardly would consider that g-rated. Roseanne was another hugely popular one but it dealt with real issues that face many in blue collar families - did people really sit down as a family to watch it? Issues that dealt with economic hardship, birth control, abortion, etc may have been a little to unsettling for a parent to watch with their preteens.

My question is: Do families even sit down and watch television together anymore (outside of American Idol and live sporting events?) Have they ever since the invention of cable? Us 90s kids had Nickelodeon, preteen/adolescent girls have the Disney channel, housewives have oxygen, sports fanatics have ESPN, news junkies have cable news, etc. There is a channel that caters to just about every demographic out there.

I am positive that there are shows out there that are rather wholesome and could theoretically be watched together as a family, but who does that in the modern world? Isn't Good Luck Charlie a family oriented show in the vein of those schmaltzy and sappy sitcoms that ran on the old tgif lineup?

By the way: Kids are exposed to way worse things on the internet, and moreover, they hear (and possibly witness) far more crude things in the public school system than anything that runs on broadcast television. That is not even mentioning the pop music they consume, which is all about sex (and always has been). I am not defending the vulgarity that is rampant on broadcast television, just being realistic.

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05-19-2012, 01:17 AM	#31
tanner68 Occasional Poster Member Join Date: May 18, 2012 Posts: 3	If I were a parent of a young child I would be more concerned about whats on the RADIO than with television. With TV parents do have control between the content ratings, V-Chip, family friendly channels and so forth. Radio on the other hand...outside the home & car much less control. Just recently I was at a Dollar Tree in Colorado. They had the radio on tuned to a local Denver rock station. Over the store sound system I heard the morning djs talking about sex sex sex and more sex. OK those with kids in the sotre can always leave and go to another store..then again chances are the next store's radio is airing the same thing. Funny how stores like Target and Walmart on their TV's its usually family friendly stuff being shown YET in the stereo boombox section its not unusual for it to be tuned to a radio station that isn't exactly family friendly.

05-19-2012, 01:54 AM	#32
Yong Fang Forum Regular Member Join Date: Aug 04, 2009 Location: Memphis Tennessee Posts: 616	Apartment 23 is a well crafted show with good actors and gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous women as leads. The bitch on the show is a schemer, and that is part of the joke. GCB was cancelled because it was a crappy show. I watched the pilot and it sucked. Did have Annie Potts in it, but the show was garbage. Cancelled. Go away. What are Family Values anyway? Every family has different values and different ways to go about things. If you are a prude who doesn't like people saying four letter words. turn off the TV and hide in a cave.

05-21-2012, 09:28 AM	#35
Leslie Eckhardt Forum Regular Member Join Date: Sep 24, 2011 Posts: 265	I am a 60 year old man who prefers classic TV shows like Lucy, Hazel and The Golden Girls. I have sampled Don't Trust The B---- In Apartment 23 and GCB. I rather liked GCB and couldn't stand the former, but people have the right to see these shows and form their own opinions of them. There are devices on most TVs and DVD players to limit content inappropriate to children, who I believe should not be allowed to see certain programs. I gave "Don't Trust" a scathing review on IMBD, but I believe that we should have freedom of choice. I like early John Waters films, but many people find these to be disgusting. To each his own.

05-21-2012, 02:40 PM	#38
Coffeecup Senior Member coffeecup. Join Date: Jan 17, 2003 Location: snoozeville Posts: 1,149	If you are a prude who doesn't like people saying four letter words. turn off the TV and hide in a cave. ---- I hope I am not that bad. By the way where would I find a cave? One poster mentioned that in the past, families had 1 tv set and and members would watch the show together. Now with each member having a set, interest in a show would be different. You have to change somewhat to grow. I sometimes see older shows and wonder How did I watch this as a child. Years ago I was watching the Dynasty spin out The Colbys and up pops Charlton Hestons tv wife out a bathtub with very little on. The wife was barely covered but it was a sexy scene. Never see that in the 60's .

05-21-2012, 02:53 PM	#39
Jericho-79 Frequent Poster Member Join Date: May 17, 2012 Location: New York City Posts: 123	Straightlaced people have been complaining about the lack of morality in TV programming since the 90's. If I remember correctly, the only TV program that conservative groups lauded in the past was 7th Heaven.

05-21-2012, 04:01 PM	#41
Jericho-79 Frequent Poster Member Join Date: May 17, 2012 Location: New York City Posts: 123	Also, I was an avid viewer of the WWF back in the late 90's and early 2000's. It was very raunchy and Jerry Springer-like back then. Then the Parents Television Council (headed by Brent Bozell) started a campaign against the WWF for its indecency. The PTC was ultimately semi-successful in censoring WWF programming. Over the past few years, the WWF/E has become more "family-friendly" in its content. The destruction of a fun product.

05-21-2012, 09:04 PM	#42
GQ28 Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Feb 13, 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Posts: 190	Most of the male characters on sitcoms these days, act to darn feminine. No masculinity and too many reality shows! These sitcoms today aren't funny! Then the one funny show they had, THM they fired the lead character! With the exception of Y&R, I stick with the classics!

05-22-2012, 01:26 AM	#43
jasonbigley Forum Regular Member Join Date: Apr 14, 2008 Location: California Posts: 437	I like a variety of programs. If I like a show, im not going to stop watching it because they say 1 offensive thing. If they say something I dont like, I ignore it or change the channel. Lets take The Facts Of Life for example, they had some storylines that were considered risque at the time. But they taught some good lessons. Threes Company was considered risque at the time, but if you compare that to whats on TV now a days, that is REALLY mild. Threes Company also taught about good friendships, having clean fun and caring for one another. I was a fan of Melrose Place when it was on the air, the storylines on that show were way out there. But I realized its television and television (most of the time), doesnt represent real life. Melrose Place DID have some tender moments too. You know, for some reason I cant explain, maybe the effects or the writing, but alot of the TV shows from yesteryear, seemed more realistic to me than most of the shows on the air now.

02-06-2013, 06:13 PM	#45
nerdstein Occasional Poster Member Join Date: Sep 07, 2012 Posts: 22	I grew up in the 90s, but I really don't see much of difference between then and now. Granted, I don't watch childrens programming, or any (newer) series that could remotely be considered as 'family-oriented' but I do sample a lot of shows. If you go back and look at some of those nicktoons that aired, many were incredibly vulgar. Ren and Stimpy and Rockos Modern Life had all kinds of sexual innuendo and animated violence, and both were aimed at kids (but found a large audience of young adults). Married With Children was a wildly popular sitcom that ran in prime time - but I hardly would consider that g-rated. Roseanne was another hugely popular one but it dealt with real issues that face many in blue collar families - did people really sit down as a family to watch it? Issues that dealt with economic hardship, birth control, abortion, etc may have been a little to unsettling for a parent to watch with their preteens. My question is: Do families even sit down and watch television together anymore (outside of American Idol and live sporting events?) Have they ever since the invention of cable? Us 90s kids had Nickelodeon, preteen/adolescent girls have the Disney channel, housewives have oxygen, sports fanatics have ESPN, news junkies have cable news, etc. There is a channel that caters to just about every demographic out there. I am positive that there are shows out there that are rather wholesome and could theoretically be watched together as a family, but who does that in the modern world? Isn't Good Luck Charlie a family oriented show in the vein of those schmaltzy and sappy sitcoms that ran on the old tgif lineup? By the way: Kids are exposed to way worse things on the internet, and moreover, they hear (and possibly witness) far more crude things in the public school system than anything that runs on broadcast television. That is not even mentioning the pop music they consume, which is all about sex (and always has been). I am not defending the vulgarity that is rampant on broadcast television, just being realistic.