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Brad
02-02-2004, 05:23 PM
Kerry leads Bush in new poll

Bush's approval numbers dip

CNN

ATLANTA, Georgia -- Sen. John Kerry, the front-runner among Democrats vying for their party's presidential nomination, leads President Bush in a head-to-head matchup, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday.

And Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and retired Gen. Wesley Clark, two other Democrats in the field, come within a few points of beating Bush, according to the hypothetical match-ups in the poll, which also found a decline in Bush's approval numbers.

The poll, based on interviews with 1,001 adult Americans, including 562 likely voters, was conducted in the days after the New Hampshire primary.

The poll underscores both Kerry's momentum after his wins in New Hampshire and Iowa, and increased favorability among Democrats in general as they dominate political news with their primaries and steady criticism of Bush.

The general election is slightly more than nine months away and Bush has yet to launch his campaign in earnest, meaning the poll numbers are all but certain to shift.

When the 562 likely voters were asked for their choice from a Bush v. Kerry race, 53 percent of those picked Kerry, and 46 percent favored Bush.

When that same group was asked to pick between Edwards and Bush, the numbers were 49 percent for Bush and 48 percent for Edwards. With a Bush/Clark face-off, Bush was favored by 50 percent of those surveyed and Clark, 47 percent.

Howard Dean, the onetime front-runner in the Democratic field, had a poorer showing against Bush, 45 percent to 52 percent for the incumbent.

The question of choice for president among likely voters had a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. The margin or error was different for other questions, as some questions were posed to likely voters, others to just Democrats and others to all adults surveyed.

Kerry was the overwhelming choice of registered Democrats for the presidential nomination. Support for Kerry as the Democratic nominee stood at 49 percent, compared to 14 percent for Dean and 13 percent for Edwards. The other Democratic candidates were in the single digits.

The poll showed Bush's job approval rating at 49 percent among all the adults surveyed, the first time since he became president that his job approval has dipped below 50 percent. A month ago his rating was at 60 percent, as he enjoyed a spike in approval after the capture of Saddam Hussein.

A majority of those polled now say they disapprove of Bush's handing of the economy, foreign affairs, the situation in Iraq and health care. The poll also showed the nation evenly divided -- 49 percent to 49 percent -- on the question of whether it was worth going to war in Iraq, marking the first time approval of the war has dropped below 50 percent.

However, a majority of those polled -- 54 percent -- said they do not believe Bush deliberately misled the country on whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, while 43 percent said they believe there was deception.

Despite the apparent rising fortunes of Democrats, the poll showed Bush enjoyed advantages over his rivals in several areas.

For example Bush was seen as a stronger leader than Kerry -- 53 percent to 39 percent --and, despite Kerry's military service in Vietnam, more patriotic than the senator from Massachusetts, 49 percent to 34 percent.

And,on the question of Iraq, more Americans trusted Bush than Kerry, 50 percent to 44 percent.

--CNN Polling Director Keating Holland contributed to this report.

Rhiannon
02-02-2004, 05:48 PM
I saw a poll on CNN the other day, with Bush 46% and Kerry 49%

These numbers make me happy. I would much rather see Kerry in office than Bush.

Brent88
02-02-2004, 05:50 PM
the Newsweek poll has it 48-46 with Kerry winning(BUT THAT IS WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR!!). I just want to say now it would be foolish to say "Bush will win" or "Bush will lose". It's going to be a close election and as we all know, good or bad things can and probably will happen that could easily turn the numbers around or it could do the opposite, put Bush into a farther hole. It really is too early to tell.

I should also mention, Bush hasn't really gotten his campaign into high gear yet. The Dems have been getting all the attention(outside of the SOTU) for the last month...

This is also important:

However, a majority of those polled -- 54 percent -- said they do not believe Bush deliberately misled the country on whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, while 43 percent said they believe there was deception.

Despite the apparent rising fortunes of Democrats, the poll showed Bush enjoyed advantages over his rivals in several areas.

For example Bush was seen as a stronger leader than Kerry -- 53 percent to 39 percent --and, despite Kerry's military service in Vietnam, more patriotic than the senator from Massachusetts, 49 percent to 34 percent.

And,on the question of Iraq, more Americans trusted Bush than Kerry, 50 percent to 44 percent.

I think the election will be decided based on whatever issue is most important to the voters. It could be Iraq, it could be the Economy. Iraq could improve, or it could stay the same, or get worse. That will impact his rating. Same with the economy.

Rhiannon
02-02-2004, 08:16 PM
CNN polls tonight have the following:

Kerry- 53%
Bush- 49%

Dean-45%
Bush- 52%

Brent88
02-02-2004, 08:20 PM
That is correct, but the Newsweek poll(a TOTALLY different poll) has Kerry 48, Bush 46 with a 4% margin of error.

Rhiannon
02-02-2004, 08:44 PM
I haven't gotten this week's issue of Newsweek. Mine usually come on Tuesdays.

Brent88
02-02-2004, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Vera Wang
I haven't gotten this week's issue of Newsweek. Mine usually come on Tuesdays.

Yeah, as we get closer to the election, you'll see a lot more polls. CBS News/New York Times will have polls, Zogby will have polls, Fox News, NBC News, ABC News, CNN will all have polls, Newsweek and Time will have polls. You'll be sick of polls by November 2nd.

skees53
02-02-2004, 09:23 PM
I was trying to make a nice long post on this earlier, except I inserted my graph that I made in Excel and it was over the size limit, and the post didn't go through and I lost everythng... but I've fixed the graph and I'll post it here. The graph is of Bush's approval rating.

http://members.aol.com/skees53/approval.jpg

And nobody should declare victory one way or the other, two months ago, we could have all said that Bush will definitely win. Today we could Bush will definitely lose. Wait until November! This election year will have ups and downs for everybody. And right now, Bush is the down one. That can (and probably will) go up and down several times between now and November.

Fleet
02-02-2004, 09:49 PM
Sean Hannity actually predicted about 2 weeks ago that he thinks the Democrat opponent will get the higher percentage in polls from time to time. He still thinks Bush will win, but he is saying that the polls will occasionally show whoever the opponent is will sometimes edge out Bush.

Brent88
02-02-2004, 09:50 PM
Wasn't Reagan's approval rating at 38% about a year before the election? and he won in a landslide right? Polls reallly mean nothing right now.

EricIdlefan
02-02-2004, 10:06 PM
If Kerry goes to Pennslyvania Avenue, I will not be one of the people supporting him!! He is too liberal, left-leaning, and too much Washington!

skees53
02-02-2004, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Brent88
Wasn't Reagan's approval rating at 38% about a year before the election? and he won in a landslide right? Polls reallly mean nothing right now.

That doesn't mean though that if you have a 38% approval rating, you are guaranteed a second term. Reagan didn't win on 38% approval, he had the fortune of going up in his approval rating.

Where was Bush Sr. around this time in '92? Anybody know? I thought he was in the low 50s or so.

skees53
02-02-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Fleet
Sean Hannity actually predicted about 2 weeks ago that he thinks the Democrat opponent will get the higher percentage in polls from time to time. He still thinks Bush will win, but he is saying that the polls will occasionally show whoever the opponent is will sometimes edge out Bush.

Occasionally? This is the second week in a row and Kerry seems to be growing in support. You act like one week Kerry is like a percentage ahead of Bush, and then for the next 10 weeks, Bush is ahead by several percentage points. That may have been the case up until last month when it was Bush vs. "unknown Democrat," but now that we are getting closer to a nominee (and believe me, I'm not thrilled that it is Kerry), Bush likely isn't going to get a free ride into November like you and Hannity are wanting to imagine. I think there will be variation in the data week by week with Bush and whoever going back and forth, but I don't think it will be "occasionally" as you are dreaming of.

Fleet
02-02-2004, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by skees53
Occasionally? This is the second week in a row and Kerry seems to be growing in support. You act like one week Kerry is like a percentage ahead of Bush, and then for the next 10 weeks, Bush is ahead by several percentage points.
I think it will be occasionally. We will have to wait and see.
But, in the end, on election day, I think those who are undecided will realize that Bush is the one we need to fight terrorism.

Brent88
02-02-2004, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by skees53
That doesn't mean though that if you have a 38% approval rating, you are guaranteed a second term. Reagan didn't win on 38% approval, he had the fortune of going up in his approval rating.

Where was Bush Sr. around this time in '92? Anybody know? I thought he was in the low 50s or so.

I didn't mean to imply that either. In fact, I think Clinton's approval rating was at 45% right before the election, and he still won handily.

EricIdlefan
02-03-2004, 03:24 PM
Clinton's approval rating during his eight years in office has been below 50% due to his affairs, womanizing, liberal, character in question, not being in the military, beyond many, mnay things!!

PetMonkey27
02-03-2004, 03:31 PM
I demand a recount. :singer: :rofl: