Days: "Who the Killer"

[angel676]

Who do you think is the serial killer? Do you think it's any of the seven possible suspects or an unknown suspect? Do you think the killer is part of the current cast or someone from the past? Let me know what you think.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Right now my guess would be Rex. He seems like the only one who has the potential to be a serial killer. But I think there is a possibility that the killer isn't one of the seven suspects and that it could be someone like Larry Welch, Collin Murphy (turn out to be not really dead, of course), or someone else.

[Julia Hoffman]

At this point, I'm leaning toward Rex being the killer. His mood swings, headaches, and strange behavior would seem to be a clue. He is probably programmed by Stefano to be the ultimate killing machine, like John almost was.

[fresbulldogs]

I'm wondering if it could be Marlena. Remember when Abe was shot? He looked at his killer, like he was suprised to see them. Also...it sounded like he almost said, in a friendly/suprised voice, "Hello, what are you doing here?" But I don't think he got to finish his sentence. I don't think he would have spoken that way w/someone he wasn't on good terms with. She was supposed to have been visting her parents and Eric. Maybe that was partly a cover up? Maybe she has also been programmed by Stefano. Just a theory. I don't know.

I'm probably wrong about this, but I just don't think it's one of the seven obvious suspects.

[Julia Hoffman]

^The only way that could work would be if she were possessed again. Of course, with the writer who worked on that storyline back, it could turn out to be true.:eek:

[I Dream of Jeannie]

I don't see it being Rex, Lucas, Kate, Victor, Nicole, or Tony. Maybe Sami, but I don't see the 7 as the killers, the other 6 seem to all be on even ground, but Rex is being shown as the suspect the viewers should believe has done it, and that puts up a red flag for me. I'm just not sure that it's even any of them. But as much as they are playing on the SEVEN, like they are I suppose it has to be AT LEAST one of them. Really I wouldn't be surprised if it was all of them, lol.

And as Marlena being the killer, it could be possible, and she wouldn't have to be possessed. If you remember in 96 I believe, Stefano made all of those Marlena look alike, maybe it could be one of them. Though I don't think this theory will check out, because I, being the Die-hard Jarlena fan as I am, just don't see John not knowing it's not her. But nevertheless, believe it or not I'm enjoying the show now, it's soooooooo much better, and anyone who says otherwise is crazy. Even Jack and Jen fans I think once they get over the pain they'll see it was better that Reilly came back, otherwise Jack and Jen would die a slow death on "In the House", rather than perhaps have a very emotional parting.

[bry]

i have thought about marlena too. but i also must add phillip kiriakis into the mix.
but it is not one of the suspects. if not the two i mentioned, it wil be stefano or a new character.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

My mom is now wondering if it could be Marlena, John, or Roman (under Stefano's control)

[boechsner]

As of now, the only possible could be Lucas. Because, if you recall, before he died, Abe recalled what exactly happened. He came out of the house and he talked to his killer, saying something to the effect of "I'm wearing my bulletproof vest." He wouldn't have been so casual with any of the other suspects. Especially not, Sami, Kate, Tony, Rex, Nicole or Victor, since he's had scuffles with them in the recent past.

Obviously, this leaves room for other suspects. Stefano being a possible suspect, but personally, I hope Marlena's the killer.

[bry]

IF maggie horton will die by this killer, why would lucas kill his aunt?
i do not see lucas as the killer. remember, maggie is one of the few hortons that has been especially good to him. i can't see it.

[boechsner]

Originally posted by bry
IF maggie horton will die by this killer, why would lucas kill his aunt?
i do not see lucas as the killer. remember, maggie is one of the few hortons that has been especially good to him. i can't see it.

I'm not saying Lucas is the killer, I'm saying he's the only one of the suspects that Abe would be so casual with. I'm thinking the killer is someone other than the 7 suspects.

[angel676]

Originally posted by ClassicTV4Ever
Right now my guess would be Rex. He seems like the only one who has the potential to be a serial killer. But I think there is a possibility that the killer isn't one of the seven suspects and that it could be someone like Larry Welch, Collin Murphy (turn out to be not really dead, of course), or someone else.

There's been talk about it possibly being Larry Welch or Colin Murphy, but I don't believe for a second that it's one of them. Abe wouldn't have been calm and casual, he would have been mortified.

I don't believe the killer is Sami, Nicole, Victor and Rex. Abe and Sami weren't exactly on good talking terms, so he wouldn't have been glad to see her. I don't think Nicole was mentally capable of shooting a gun, she's been way to nervous and very clumsy, by always dropping whatever she had in her hands. Victor....well....no one ever seems comfortable around him, that's just my opinion. Now Rex, he's the obvious choice because of his headaches, blackouts and his unusual behavior.

[bry]

i hadn't watched alot of this show in the past year or so because it was so stupid. but i must ask, whatever happened to that woman that roman was checking out that had the thing for rolf. he was to turn her into a marlena look a like (since it was her sister in the role). could she have been completely changed and do it?

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Hattie, just left one day there was an explanation but it was something stupid, like Stefano sent her off to learn more about being Marlena, I think that was it. If it is Hattie, then Deidre is playing dual roles, because I know for sure her sister isn't on.

Many people feel this could be one possiblity: What if it's Faux Ro? Here lately there has been emphasize on the fact that John is "not" Sami and Eric's dad, and that he is "not" a Brady but a honorary one. Reilly loves to foreshadow, could this be a forshadowing of John being found out to really be Roman and Faux Ro some Stefano brainwashed henchman?

My views on that are I hope that's not the case, I've gotten used to John being John and it took me quite a while to figure that whole thing out the first time, of course I was only 3 and 4 then. lol. I was just wondering if anyone else has any views on this theory.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
Hattie, just left one day there was an explanation but it was something stupid, like Stefano sent her off to learn more about being Marlena, I think that was it. If it is Hattie, then Deidre is playing dual roles, because I know for sure her sister isn't on.

That really could be a possibility. I never thought of that. It could very well be Hattie posing as Marlena.

Many people feel this could be one possiblity: What if it's Faux Ro? Here lately there has been emphasize on the fact that John is "not" Sami and Eric's dad, and that he is "not" a Brady but a honorary one. Reilly loves to foreshadow, could this be a forshadowing of John being found out to really be Roman and Faux Ro some Stefano brainwashed henchman?

My views on that are I hope that's not the case, I've gotten used to John being John and it took me quite a while to figure that whole thing out the first time, of course I was only 3 and 4 then. lol. I was just wondering if anyone else has any views on this theory.

Ugh! I hope not either. It's been 10+ years since that whole John/Roman stuff was resolved. I don't want to see that surface again. That'd be like bringing up "Is Hope really Hope or is she really Princess Gina?" crap again. I say just let that be and find some fresh material.

[angel676]

I'm starting to wonder about Marlena. She was somewhat out of character when she slapped Maggie across the face, when Maggie was under hypnosis. I don't think that's usual for a psychiatrist(sp).

Speaking of which, going off topic, I thought it was totally wrong for Lexie to put Maggie under hypnosis. Lexie is no psychiatrist(sp), she had no right doing that. I understand Lexie wants to find out who killed her husband, but that was crossing the line.

[bry]

i was thinking one day last week about maybe the killer is forrest alamain.
i still think that that character needs to be more than john black's birth name. i feel that if stefano can make a man (and everyone else) believe he is another man, then maybe he has had forrest alamain under his control as well.
i still believe, after all this time, that one possibility is that forrest is the son of rudolpho (stefano) and vivian when they had their fling years ago. so instrad of being leopold's son, he may have taken custody of the child because vivan was so immature and young or something. so john would be the son of stefano by blood.
any thoughts?

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by angel676
I'm starting to wonder about Marlena. She was somewhat out of character when she slapped Maggie across the face, when Maggie was under hypnosis. I don't think that's usual for a psychiatrist(sp).

I was shocked to see that, but I really think that was necessary since Maggie was so hysterrical. She was trying really hard to snap her out of it, but she couldn't. Marlena said it was like a form of shock treatment. But who knows....

[I Dream of Jeannie]

I don't think it's Marlena, but Faux Ro is looking more and more like a possible suspect, or do I just REALLY want to get rid of him. lol.

[angel676]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
I don't think it's Marlena, but Faux Ro is looking more and more like a possible suspect, or do I just REALLY want to get rid of him. lol.
I agree, I don't think it's Marlena either. It's hard to explain, but there have been a couple of times that I've noticed features about Marlena that aren't the same, mainly features around the face. There's just something different about her!!

Question, who is Faux Ro?

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Her lips are bigger, or at least they look like they are, I dunno if it's new lip liner or what. lol But that's what's different, it's Deidre though.

Faux-Ro is the current Roman, I'm surprised that you haven't heard him referred to by that name. Faux is for fake, and Ro is for Roman, because Josh Taylor wasn't the original Roman.

[bry]

maybe roman is chris kositchek.

[angel676]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie


Faux-Ro is the current Roman, I'm surprised that you haven't heard him referred to by that name. Faux is for fake, and Ro is for Roman, because Josh Taylor wasn't the original Roman.

I've never heard of that name, it's new to me.

[boechsner]

Originally posted by bry
maybe roman is chris kositchek.

I've thought about that and personally, I think that would be perfect. Then the original Roman could come back. Remember, Chris is the brother of Jake who was the Salem Strangler.

[bry]

ok, this one is from left field but......
i was trying to come up with an idea of all the deaths and impending deaths and tryng to find a commen denominator. i think the killer is someone close that knows or know of each victim to a degree. so i have come up with a suspect. a brainwashed, programmed................ shawn brady.

[bry]

just got to thinking. i put a few things together.
twice now we have a killer with one person no where in sight. with jack, we have now seen a right handed person deliver the brick wearing black gloves. if i am not mistaken, that is the same thing we saw when the christmas tree was set fire back in december of '94. black gloves.
the one person that we have seen numerous times in black gloves that has not been present until after abe (and now jack) has died is marlena. and it was her that set fire to the christmas tree in the early stages of her possession.
take it from there........

[boechsner]

Originally posted by bry
just got to thinking. i put a few things together.
twice now we have a killer with one person no where in sight. with jack, we have now seen a right handed person deliver the brick wearing black gloves. if i am not mistaken, that is the same thing we saw when the christmas tree was set fire back in december of '94. black gloves.
the one person that we have seen numerous times in black gloves that has not been present until after abe (and now jack) has died is marlena. and it was her that set fire to the christmas tree in the early stages of her possession.
take it from there........

I'm hoping it's Marlena. Possessed seems unlikely this time around. Mind control is better.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

There are a lot of signs that could point to Mar, it would be good SL for J&M, of course in the long run she wouldn't go to jail. Maybe it could be the pinprick, you know she pricked her finger not once but twice. Maybe if it is her, that's what's wrong with her. Then again, before Jack was murdered, John was on the phone with Mar, I think Reilly put that in there to keep her from being a suspect, so I dunno.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Well, I finally saw in the Rumor Mill section of Dustin's page that Marlena is really Hattie Adams (who is also the killer) and the switch happened off camera when Marlena was to go visit Eric in Colorado, and the real Marlena is being held captive somewhere by Stefano or a very much alive Dr. Rolf.

Even though it's just a rumor at this point, my gut feeling about this is now stronger than ever.

[angel676]

As of this moment, I have no idea who the killer could possibly be. In someways, I'm almost certain it's a male from Days, only because of the strength of the killer/attacker. But, judging by the sketch of the killer/attacker, it looks like Kate, or at least someone that looks like Kate, especially of the eyebrows and eyes. I don't want it to be Kate, but to me it sort of looks like Kate. IMO, if the killer is a female, we can exclude, Caroline, Maggie, Belle, Mimi, Jennifer and Lexie, especially Cassie. Cassie has very thin eyebrows, judging by the sketches the killer/attacker does not. Sorry if I analyze too much, but there are certain things I notice about each character and the sketch. I can't imagine why Lexie or Jennifer would kill their own husbands. Plus, since Caroline, Maggie and Cassie are going to be killed off, it's obviously not any of them.

But, if I do believe right, it's been pointed out that the killer is someone from the current cast. I realize we are trying to do this, but since 6 - 8 people are being killed off, we should really start watching carefully and start ruling out who it could or could not be, based on those facts.

I mean consider this, why would Sami kill her own grandmother? Why would Tony or Rex kill Cassie? and etc...........

[shel 7296]

Could it be Brandon? I was wondering that Before Brandon found out that ABe was his father he could not stand him and always wanted to seek revenge on Abe. And with Jack Jack went on Tv and dared the killer to get him. Just a thought:wave: :confused:

[bry]

i have thought about brandon too, but i can't see why he would have a motive for killng the rest of them we know about already.

[bry]

kristen blake? be a good one for revenge against john and marlena by eliminating people close to them.

[bry]

changed my mind. after todays episode, it has to be two things. one is somebody that maggie would trust indefinitly. and since she told the person that they do not drink alcohol in their house, it would be somebody that may not "be aware" of her past and needed to be reminded or told. next, it has to be someone that mickey wasn't surprised it to have been. he acted like he knew the person, but wasn't surprised now that he knew. so can that rule out marlena?
how about a flipped out laura horton? i still say it is marlena/hattie, but if not, here is a new possibility.

spoiler for tomorrow says that mickey tries to unmask the person. so maybe he didn't recognize him.

[angel676]

After watching all the computer and mini-camera ordeal with Maggie and the killer, I'm starting to wonder if the killer is Tek. He is ISA and he knows all about advanced technology. He knows more then John and Roman, that's for sure. Granted, Rex also knows about technology, but to me Rex is the too obvious choice. Just my 2 cents!

[boechsner]

I actually just had a shocking thought, what if the killer is Princess Gina. Which would easily explain, why Maggie and Abe would be so casual around the killer.

[bry]

great idea.

[shel 7296]

Shawn is getting on my nerves when it comes to the killer. Bo and Hope needs to tell him to take A BIG CHILL PILL!!!! :wave:

[Elaine Benes]

How did Jack die?

[shel 7296]

He got hit over the head with a brick

[bry]

i agree. this stuff with shawn is making him out to be the teenage john black. i am already beyond sick of hearing him cry "dimera" just so everyone else can fuss at him.
sick of it.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

I HATE Shawn DUMB-*ss Brady!! He is taking up WAY to much screen time IMO. There is no sense in seeing his face.

[TGirl]

I kinda thought it was Brandon for a while. But now that I think about it, it doesn't seem possible. When Abe saw the killer, right before he was attacked, he didn't seem at all surprised. Abe would have been surprised to see Brandon since he was in Chicago and not expected to attend the baby's christening that day.

Now that I think of it -- Faye would have motive to kill Abe (and Jack) if she knew they were close to naming Nicole as Collin's killer.

[starsprite]

Hehe I agree with you all about Shawn being so f'in annoying!! I wish he'd gone with Belle to Milan so we wouldn't have to listen to him bitch and complain constantly ugh!!!!!!

And I think it would make great sense to have the killer be Hattie/Marlena..I would love for that to be true!

[TGirl]

Bonnie Lockhart (Mimi's mom) is the killer:

1) Clothes w/ Maggie's blood on them were found in Rex's possession. Bonnie had previously "endeared" herself to the super at Rex's place and has gotten access to his apartment.

2) Caroline Brady's fingerprints were found on the whiskey bottle that was used to kill Maggie. Halloween night, Bonnie kept sneaking behind the bar at Brady Pub to steal free drinks.

3) When Celeste did her tarrot card reading, ALL the cards came up as the death card -- and the whole night Celeste was with Bonnie she kept sensing evil.

4) Bonnie cleaned houses for both Abe/Lexie & Mickey/Maggie. So, Abe wouldn't have been surprised to see her -- and Maggie would have let her in the house.

5) When Jack was killed -- Bonnie was oh-so-quick to come to Jennifer's aid and clean the house (and steal stuff from Jack).

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Yeah I've thought about that, but it couldn't have been her who attacked Maggie and Mickey because she was with Celeste and then she and Celeste came face to face with the killer themselves.

[fresbulldogs]

Wasn't a scalple (sp?) used to kill Maggie? Who would have had access to one?

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Marlena, John, Lucas (he's on the board, but I know it can't be him) and Dr. Bader, boy that'd be a shocker.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
Yeah I've thought about that, but it couldn't have been her who attacked Maggie and Mickey because she was with Celeste and then she and Celeste came face to face with the killer themselves.

Besides, Bonnie's too dumb and annoying to kill anybody lol.

[TGirl]

originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
. . . it couldn't have been her who attacked Maggie and Mickey because she was with Celeste and then she and Celeste came face to face with the killer themselves.

That wasn't necessarily the real killer. There were a lot of people out that night dressed in black cosutumes.

originally posted by fresbulldogs
Wasn't a scalple (sp?) used to kill Maggie? Who would have had access to one?

That was Mickey. Maggie was killed with a whiskey bottle (that had Caroline's fingerprints on it). And we know that Bonnie was stealing free drinks from behind the bar at the Brady Pub.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by TGirl
originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie


That wasn't necessarily the real killer. There were a lot of people out that night dressed in black cosutumes.

originally posted by fresbulldogs


That was Mickey. Maggie was killed with a whiskey bottle (that had Caroline's fingerprints on it). And we know that Bonnie was stealing free drinks from behind the bar at the Brady Pub.

But either way it still couldn't have been Bonnie. She was with Celeste the whole time having her cards read.

[Julia Hoffman]

And it can't be Princess Gina, either. She was shot and killed by Bo at their wedding when he thought she was Hope. They showed her die, and they showed her being buried.

It can't be Marlena, because she was with John during the killing of Maggie, I think.

[Brian Damage]

Can somebody tell me all the characters that got rubbed out by the serial killer?

[angel676]

Originally posted by Brian Damage
Can somebody tell me all the characters that got rubbed out by the serial killer?

Well, so far Abe, Jack and Maggie have been killed. But, Caroline is next to be killed. After Caroline, I have no idea, there are too many killings.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Originally posted by Julia Hoffman
And it can't be Princess Gina, either. She was shot and killed by Bo at their wedding when he thought she was Hope. They showed her die, and they showed her being buried.

It can't be Marlena, because she was with John during the killing of Maggie, I think.

Marlena and John were not on during Maggie's murder at all, neither of them have an alibi, at least an alibi that we saw and know is true.

[bry]

with all you guys talking about gina, i don't think anyone has mentioned gretta. i wouldn't think it would be her.
can't remember. i know marlena was on after mickey and maggie were attacked, but has she been on since the announcement of maggie's death?

[boechsner]

Originally posted by Julia Hoffman
And it can't be Princess Gina, either. She was shot and killed by Bo at their wedding when he thought she was Hope. They showed her die, and they showed her being buried.

It can't be Marlena, because she was with John during the killing of Maggie, I think.

Obviously, you didn't watch Days when Reilly was head writer the first time. Anyone can come back from the dead. Peter, Stefano ...etc.

[shel 7296]

Did you see fridays show when they had caroline bradys casket at the funeral? The only person that I know who would do that would be nicole.

[TVJunkie101]

Here's some scoopage for the rest of the year. It's in the new TV Guide, dated 22-28 (I think, or 24-30, or something). I'll post a link where I got this stuff from in a minute when I find it again.

Basically:

Cassie is killed on Thanksgiving. (Rumored to be in a turkey pinata)

Roman dies on New Years Eve (BEFORE Tony)

Tony is attacked by a tiger at the end of January during a circus themed charity event. He isn't killed by that though. The killer tampers with his I.V. and that is when we finally see who the killer is.

Looks like it might be February 04 or end of January before we finally see who the killer is.

Also, except 3 MORE murders before/by March '04. So, that means it will be 10 in all.

Reilly is also going to bring on new characters to existing families (how, might I ask? Is he recasting, or making up his own characters? I don't get this...).

When I buy TVGuide and see the actual article, I'll post it, but this is a summation of it.

Also, no murders on Christmas. It will be a peaceful and nice one (THANK GOD) and there will be a surprise announcement (my bet is on Jenn being pregnant, though it's NOT official yet, it's pretty obvious), an engagement, and Chloe's return (she is slated for 8 episodes, or so it's been said).

Also, Rhassan Orange has been upped to contract as Tek. Heather Olson returns as Jan November 20th, and she signed a 2 year deal.

[shel 7296]

Thanks for the information :wave:

[TGirl]

OK -- since no one liked my previous post accusing Bonnie Lockhart as being the killer . . .

. . . how about going back to my original theory -- Faye Walker.

Abe was still very fond of her and would not have been on his guard in her presence.

She had a motive for killing both Abe and Jack (they were close to naming her daughter, Nicole as Collin Murphy's killer).

She had a very pleasant disposition that would have appealed to Maggie's sense of trust.

However, I don't know what her motive would be for killing the others. . . . Unless, they forgot to leave her a tip at the diner (OK maybe that's a little drastic).

[shel 7296]

I think it is Hattie and she is being controlled by Stephano.
They killed abe because they did not like him and he was married to lexie.
Killed jack because he went on Tv and dared the killer to get him
Killed maggie because she knew who the killer was and Maggie would trust her because she looks like marlena
Killed Caroline because she was Bo and Romans mom- revenge
Stephano had a obsession with Marlena :wave: :wave:

[bry]

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[I Dream of Jeannie]

"They watched about 6 minutes of an episode and began to cry. They don't mind seeing Superman tied to the train tracks or Spiderman dipped in oil, but it's not funny when it happens to Mom, even if she has boots and a superhero cape on." ~ Deidre (on her sons watching "Electra-Woman and Dyna Girl")

"You know what? Those stingy Kroftts wouldn't even let me have one! We had three and they wouldn't even give me one!" ~ Deidre (about Electra Woman costumes)

Couldn't resist that show was too funny. LMHO

Okay I've got a new theory:

The killer is a JOHN imposter rather than a Marlena imposter. In the coming Days and next week for sure even yesterday's warning from Caroline, "John will kill Marlena" to Celeste is all part of moving from Rex to John as the prime suspect in the murders. I think Drake will end up playing double characters before it's all over with. BUT as always this is just a theory and who knows the next spoiler I read could make this impossible, so I guess will just have to wait and see. Oh and if you don't know already, Deidre isn't going anywhere, Marlena isn't going to be killed.

[bry]

i was thinking the same thing today about john being an imposter.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

See I dont' think he is an imposter, like the John on our screens today and yesterday when he saved Marlena, that was the real John but I think the killer is impersonating him. That was my John yesterday. lol I don't care what Mr. Reilly says.

[Brian Damage]

Sounds like a similiar storyline they did years earlier with a serial killer who was thought to be Tony Dimeara, but wound up being his twin brother Andre.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

I really think John is the killer and that Marlena got caught in the crossfire when she was posioned, he could NEVER kill her, maybe she's in on it too. I haven't decided that yet. January can't come fast enough for me, I can't wait for the killer to be revealed.

[TGirl]

originally posted by Brian Damage
. . . a serial killer who was thought to be Tony Dimeara, but wound up being his twin brother Andre.

Hey Brian (my fellow Seinfeld fan)!

Actually, Andre was Tony's twin cousin -- not brother.
Hey, if Patty Duke can have an identical cousin -- why can't Tony?

[starsprite]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
I really think John is the killer and that Marlena got caught in the crossfire when she was posioned, he could NEVER kill her, maybe she's in on it too. I haven't decided that yet. January can't come fast enough for me, I can't wait for the killer to be revealed.

Hmm Marlena AND John as the killers...now that is something I would LOVE to see!

[Brian Damage]

Originally posted by TGirl
originally posted by Brian Damage


Hey Brian (my fellow Seinfeld fan)!

Actually, Andre was Tony's twin cousin -- not brother.
Hey, if Patty Duke can have an identical cousin -- why can't Tony?

Thanks....:wave: It has been awhile since they did that storyline. I still can't get used to Chris Cosachek as the new Roman Brady.

[TGirl]

Sounds like you have been hooked on "Days" for about as long as have.

Can you get used to Adrienne Johnson-Kiriakas as the new "Bonnie Lockhart"? -- who, by the way, I think is the killer.

[fresbulldogs]

When Maggie being killed, wasn't Bonnie with Celeste?

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Yes, Bonnie was with Celeste.


(SPOILER INCLUDED BELOW)
There's a rumor going around that has a great deal of potential to be true, I think it could be, that the killer scenes coming up with Sami were filmed with the actor/actress that is the killer and that we should watch for clues from the killer during those scenes and we should watch the shoes of the killer.
Now, if that is true, then that rules out Sami.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by fresbulldogs
When Maggie being killed, wasn't Bonnie with Celeste?

Yep, she was. I highly doubt it's Bonnie.

[bry]

shoes???
they used shoes as a clue on the nighttime episode "winter heat" back in '94 when billie remembered the shell on the pair of shoes that she saw the night her father curtis reed was killed. and they found out the shoes belonged to kate.
do they think we don't remember this stuff?

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Friday's episode, you know how Marlena cut her right hand on a glass, well you know how they showed the rain possession flashback Friday, well in that flashback John's right hand is taped up from where he cut his hand on a glass that he had knocked over when Marlena "died". Was that a HUGE coincedence? Or is that a clue to the fact that in this story Marlena will be saving John? I'm going with the later of the two.

[fresbulldogs]

How do you all think they're going to make it look like Sami is dead? She wasn't supposed to be on the hit list.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Sami isn't going to end up dead for sure, and I dont' think they'll make it look like she is going to either.


*SPOILER INCLUDED*
Sami is going to go psycho when Roman dies, I'm SURE of it. And in some strange way I can't wait to watch her self destruct. lol.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
Sami isn't going to end up dead for sure, and I dont' think they'll make it look like she is going to either.


*SPOILER INCLUDED*
Sami is going to go psycho when Roman dies, I'm SURE of it. And in some strange way I can't wait to watch her self destruct. lol.

Heh, she's already psycho, but this will most definitely put her WAY over the edge. I can't wait either :)

[Christopher]

This show is killing itself. After this whole serial killer storyline is over, what is going to keep you watching? Most of the regular characters are dead, and when the killer is revealed they sure as hell can't stay in the show unless they are a double of another character.

[Brian Damage]

I'm sure this storyline was well thought out about the aftermath.

[Christopher]

Originally posted by Brian Damage
I'm sure this storyline was well thought out about the aftermath.



Really? Let's review. Most of the characters fans watched through the many years of the show are gone. The storylines after this serial killer wont be as good, because it will MAYBE involve new untalented actors to replace the characters they killed off. I just think SOME fans will get sick of the show once their favorite characters are gone.

And what's the deal with One Life To Live? I read they are copying Days of Our Lives with this music box killer story. Thank God those writers are not on Days of Our Lives :nod:

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by Lothos
Really? Let's review. Most of the characters fans watched through the many years of the show are gone. The storylines after this serial killer wont be as good, because it will MAYBE involve new untalented actors to replace the characters they killed off. I just think SOME fans will get sick of the show once their favorite characters are gone.

And what's the deal with One Life To Live? I read they are copying Days of Our Lives with this music box killer story. Thank God those writers are not on Days of Our Lives :nod:

It's all about budget cuts. I heard it's spreading around to a lot of daytime soaps. What better way to cut back than to get rid of actors, and what better way to get rid of actors than to kill off their characters?

[I Dream of Jeannie]

December 15, 2003 -- SUDDENLY, bloodshed has replaced bed hopping on daytime TV.
Since September, major stars have been dropping like flies on "Days Of Our Lives," the long-running NBC soap.
The body count of the "Salem Stalker" rose to five after Cassie DiMera's (Alexis Thorpe) bloody body dropped from a an otherwise- innocent piñata on Thanksgiving Day.

And last week it was revealed that the ever-popular Detective Roman Brady (Josh Taylor) would be next to bite the dust.

Last summer, head writer Jim Reilly - the mastermind behind NBC's other daytime drama, the campy "Passions" - returned after a five-year break from the show to breathe some life back into the then-limping "Days."

Now it seems he's out to set a soap record by killing off as many of the show's most popular characters as he can.

Reilly denies the outrageous slaughtering spree is just his way of cleaning house to make room for new faces and defends the never-been-done-before stunt.


"So many times, people do a serial-killer story and they only kill off maybe one main character," he says. "All these deaths will have a major impact on story because the victims are so well connected to other people."

When the killing is over, there'll be a total of 10 actors on the unemployment line.

"When the stakes are higher, the payoff is bigger," Reilly boasts. "I don't think any other soap has had that many people getting the axe.

"Well, some people get the axe . . . some get the knife, some get the poison . . . some get the tiger!"

Um, did he say tiger?

"I can't give it away, but Tony [DiMera played by Thaao Penghlis] is going to be attacked by a tiger," he reveals.

Reilly's far-out formula is working. In November, "Days" posted its highest ratings in six years. But the continuing carnage has the cast a bit on edge.

"You know when they brought in the stalker, it opens up possibilities," says Josh Taylor. "Everybody was looking over their shoulders."

Reilly admits, with some reservation, that such drastic measures were absolutely necessary for the survival of the 36-year-old soap.

"When something's in critical condition, the course of treatment isn't always what you wish it would be."

Still, death in daytime isn't always eternal.

"That's the good thing about soaps," admits Taylor, "there's a lot of flexibility there."

Truth be told, Reilly already killed DiMera during his "Days" stint back in 1996.

"Then I left the show and unbeknownst to me, I didn't kill Tony," Reilly laughs, "I killed his cousin." (Penghlis reprised his role in 2002.)

Several suspects have been named as the Salem Stalker so far - none of them the prototypical soap villain. "There is all kind of guessing going on," says Taylor, "and the irony was everyone [in the cast] thought I was going to be the killer."

The stalker's identity will be revealed in January.

(Warning: spoiler alert! Reilly admits that it will be a well-known character. "I didn't plant someone on the show to take the hit," he hints. "It has to be a beloved character.")

But the killings won't end there.

When the stalker claims a final victim, it will be - of course - the most shocking one of all.

"That's when people will really hate me," says the unflappable Reilly with a laugh


http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/13416.htm

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Okay, the last line scares the heck out of me. What do yall think?

[Christopher]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
When the stalker claims a final victim, it will be - of course - the most shocking one of all.

"That's when people will really hate me," says the unflappable Reilly with a laugh



Let's hope it's John :cheers:

[Brian Damage]

Yikes

[Christopher]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
Okay, the last line scares the heck out of me. What do yall think?



See Jeannie, this is why this show is killing itself. All of their fans favorite characters are being killed. This show will lose almost all of their fans once this storyline is over, I am sure.

[starsprite]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
Okay, the last line scares the heck out of me. What do yall think?

I honestly can't see it being John/Marlena or Bo/Hope...my money's on Victor...

I want Shawn to be one of the last three heh and I want John and/or Marlena to be the serial killers!!

I wish I'd seen the special preview but I was at work :(

[ClassicTV4Ever]

I doubt Shawn will be a victim. They just brought Jan back and she's been signed for 2 years and Shawn was the reason why they brought her back. I think Victor and Brady or Nicole will be victims. I think they also should just get rid of Rex once and for all since he serves about as much purpose for the show as Cassie did. I also wouldn't be too awfully upset if that chipmunk-voiced teenybopper Belle met her demise either (sorry, Kirsten Storms, your place is with Disney with the rest of the no-talents).

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Originally posted by ClassicTV4Ever
I also wouldn't be too awfully upset if that chipmunk-voiced teenybopper Belle met her demise either (sorry, Kirsten Storms, your place is with Disney with the rest of the no-talents).

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA :lol: :lol: ITA!!!!!

[fresbulldogs]

I'm starting to think that Phillip is the killer. Does he have an alibi for any of the murders?

[Christopher]

Originally posted by fresbulldogs
I'm starting to think that Phillip is the killer. Does he have an alibi for any of the murders?



He was with Cassie, Bo, Hope, Shawn and who ever else was at the police station watching Maggie get killed.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

I think Belle or Brady will die and Nicole or Victor, that would make every family have a death in it.

[Christopher]

Victor wont be leaving:


John Aniston Staying
A Days rep who usually doesn’t comment on rumors, states there is no truth to the rumor about John Aniston (Victor) axed and his daughter Jennifer Aniston is furious about it. (SOW)


And no more Matt as Jack

Matt Ashford Says No to Returning
(from SOW)
Matt Ashford has been approached by Days to tape a few scenes as Ghost Jack but he wasn’t interested. He says Days seems surprised when he refused, and wasn’t aware he was on another soap. Because his role on OLTL is recurring, he legally could work both soaps, but his hands are full trying to nab the serial killer OLTL, and also the soap is on the opposite coast of the country.

[bry]

out on a limb time now. after the 12/31 episode, i am getting a new feeling.
now tony is being made to look like the killer in the hood and all with the sword. so i am thinking he is the one in the kitchen. BUT, i don't think he is the killer.
the reason is that a day or two before we see the killer has an invitation to the wedding. so lets narrow this down and eliminate some people. so it should be someone in the wedding party. tony was in jail so he wasn't preparing to go to the wedding earlier in the week. my theory is:
abe would welcome conversation with the kiler.
the killer sneaked up on jack.
maggie would welcome the killer in her house.
caorline was possibly poisoned long before the funeral so it had to be someone near her.
cassie? don't know other than to keep her quiet.
roman, to keep from getting caught.

ok, with that list, add also the fact that my suspect was present at caroline's wake when marlena was poisoned. and is at the wedding. ok, i am talking about a dimera programmed shaun brady. he was out of town for awile. did they really establish anything other than visiting his sister? maybe he was grabbed and had one of those chips implanted like john had that turned him into a different person. all complete with selective memory loss.
but it has to be someone at the wedding.
there is my evidence.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

I listed my reasons for the killer to be a Marlena look alike (Hattie or one of the clones) or Marlena under mind control a week ago and here's the evidence I had then:

A) Marlena was "gone" when Abe was murdered, she had the perfect opportunity, when Abe came face to face with the killer he said, "What are you doing here?", and was smiling.

B) Let's move on to Jack's murder, John was on the phone with Marlena right BEFORE, Jack got whacked, sounds like a clue to me.

C) Maggie, before she was murdered was seeing Marlena for help, and we all know how suspicious those scenes were, Marlena really didn't seem to know what she was doing. Leaving Maggie in a dark room all alone, with the window open, then getting called away, right before the killer entered the room, and not coming back again till after the killer had left. Also, during this attack the killer used the scalpel, which it has carried around numerous times, a clue to the fact that they are a Doctor.

D)Maggie's murder, Maggie and Mickey, right before she was murdered, were talking about Halloween costumes, and what did they mention, Electra Woman, and we all know, Deidre played her. When Maggie was being murdered she said how this could be, and stuff like that, and certainly it would be quite a surprise if her friend was her killer.

E)Caroline, died by poisoning right, with drugs that came from Marlena's office, a clue, I think so. The killer had to have known they could kill in the right amount, and so they used the medicine she'd given Maggie.

F)The dip, this is where the imposter comes in, wanted to kill someone didn't care who, and who's the best person to get rid of, the real Marlena.

G)Cassie's murder, Marlena and John had not left yet for the cabin, she had an opportunity to do Cassie in, or at least her look alike did.

H)Now, with all the crap we've had to watch here lately, which is COMPLETELY out of character, and we all know how in character Marlena was before, Reilly knows that we know her and know what she would and wouldn't do, and this is our signal, that something is very wrong with her.

I)Her refusing to be the Matron of Honor, looks to me like if I was the killer I sure wouldn't want to be in the ceremony, too much drible drable, and not enough time to change into my stalking uniform, lol as my brother says.

J)Marlena leaves to go get ready for the wedding tomorrow, and when she leaves Roman and Kate are happy because the "stalker" is caught, then they show the killer's mask and the knife lying beside the invitation, now, Marlena had just left to go "change" for the wedding, clue yep, that's gotta be a clue.

K)Maggie's mention of the eyes being pure evil, who was "pure evil" while possessed Marlena was.

L)Cassie saw the salsa and it was a clue as to who the killer was, now think about this, dip almost killed Marlena, now what is Salsa, Salsa is a DIP! Cassie figured it out by the dip as a clue.

M)Framing Kate, was purely because Kate was Cassie's mother, now who was thought to be her mother before, Marlena was.

N)Framing Tony, by framing Tony who everyone knows is a likely suspect the killer got everyone off guard, now think about this, Tony framed John for his murder, now Marlena is framing Tony for her attempted murder, and the other murders.

O)We all know the killer would want John to be out of the house right, so the killer sends him out, not long ago Marlena wouldn't hear of it, now what does that say, IMPOSTER!

P)Kate said that Marlena would never tell another man I love you, yet she "did", that's a clue, Marlena would never but her imposter might.

Q)I rewatched the fashion show and Marlena could have done it and framed Rex quite easily, framing Rex was a good way to put off the blame and she knew about his headaches, therefore knew that he would have a hard time proving his innocence.

R)John will kill Marlena, WTH, it's all about this Imposter thing, he kills the Marlena imposter and bada bing bada bam, the premenition comes true.

S)Monday's show, the PD says they've finally caught the killer, but they don't show a close up of Tony, they show a shot of Tony, Rex, and Marlena. Rex been framed, Tony has been framed, by Marlena.

T)Remember the pillow she got, she pricked her finger not once but twice, once with the pillow, and once at the island, now what if she's under mind control, or better yet, she is asleep again, and the imposter is killing.

U)Remember the episode when Tony pulled all the pics of everyone in Salem out of the bag, and they did a close up of Marlena, who was next to the victoms that had been named at that time, now why was that, it was because she's the killer, used by Tony and Stefano, but it will backfire in Tony's face obviously.

V)Tony is attacked by a Tiger,a jungle cat, now who turned into a PANTHER years ago, none other than Marlena.

W)When Sami was cornered in the alley she pushed the killer then made remarks about if the killer was Lucas he had padding, that's gotta be a clue that the killer is a female, and how much taller the killer was than Lucas, that's also gotta be a clue, and they point to Marlena.

X)Tony is killed in the hospital by the injection the killer gives him, now that would mean most likely, this person is a doctor, aka. Marlena.

Y)These are the clues, but no one has suspected her, and that makes her the perfect killer, no one thinks it's her, so it'd be a shock to find out.

Z)She has no alibi so far for any of the murders, and Tony has the means to send all these messages to the Police, so if he's controlling the killer that'd make since for him to do that. And the only people in the room when Roman and Kate announced their marriage were, Bo and Hope who have alibi's, Belle and Shawn and Zach who have alibi's, lol about Zach, Jennifer alibi, John has an alibi, don't know if the show will recognize it or not but he has one, and finally Marlena who has none, and who also seems to know that Roman is doomed, wonder why.

[Brian Damage]

I missed it, but who's body was that on today's episode?

[I Dream of Jeannie]

That was Roman, he dies grusomely.

[Brian Damage]

thanks :)

[bry]

ok jeannie, i got your point.:)
you got some greaty points there. and i agree with most of them.
electra woman??? that must be one of those episodes i missed cause would have laughed hysterically if i had heard that one.:lol:

youe exhibit "w" though, could also hold up as shaun, as i suggested.
but i do believe it is marlena or a replacement of sorts. or a mind controled marlena. i was giving shaun out just as another option.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

My mom is beginning to wonder about Nicole now. The reason was because in today's episode she had that envelope and it had blood on it. I don't know. So much happened at that time she could have just slipped into the kitchen and gotten it. I'm still not letting go on the Marlena possibility, but along with my mom, I don't think I'm ruling out Nicole either.

[bry]

after viewimg todays episode, i have to add another point here. it has already been established that the killer has an invitation to the wedding. ok, of all the people at the wedding, who was not on todays episode that has been there all week? five people: zac, will, abbey, theo, and shaun. it was said that they all were in maggies office, i think they said, asleep. well, who is to say that shaun was in the room as the episode progressed?
now, by looking at the size of the killer today, it is apparent that the killer is shorter than roman. so that eliminates shaun.
just another thought or two on that theory.

and i just had another one. what about kim or kayla? abe would have been surprised to see either one. kim came home for caroline's funeral. true, shaun or somebody called her to tell of her death, but a computer whiz could fix the phone to forward to another place close by instead of far away. and they kept taking about kayla. but we never saw her.
didn't kim have split personality years ago?
now to add to this, when all is said and done, kim's or kayla's kids could come to salem to live near their relatives and we would have more new brady's on the show.

that would allow them to ressuccitate an old character, revive the character, and then end the character for closure of the storyline. and eliminate any loose ends as the character dies.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Well, I think the Marlena theory has gone to hell in a handbasket. Here's what Dustin (from Dustin's Days of Our Lives Page) has to say about this whole situation:

January 2 : Quick Thoughts!
As many people have recently pointed out, there are some major problems with the theory of Marlena or Hattie being the killer. First, Maggie wouldn't have had to remind Marlena that she was an alcoholic. Second, many people stated that Maggie had made the comment to her guest that she didn't know them all that well. Third, Marlena wouldn't have poisoned the dip and herself. Finally, Reilly stated in his NY Post interview that the killer would not be someone brought in to take the fall, IE Hattie.

For those who have been asking who Hattie Adams is. Hattie was a Marlena look-a-like, played by Deidre's real life twin sister Andrea Hall, who became obsessed with MArlena after Marlena's radio talk show replaced Hattie's favorite radio show.

Richard, and a few others, emailed me to let me know how much the serial killer story line resembles the poem Ten Little Indians, as well as Agatha Christie's "And Then There Were None." In Agatha Christie's novel, the killer turns out to be one of the dead who is not really dead. The problem with this is that all of the dead, all but Cassie, have returned as ghosts in some shape or form (Maggie and Roman will be making appearances soon). Furthermore, Cassie got a phone call from the killer. The only way this would work is if Stefano was the killer and was controlling her or other people and making them do the killings.

Many people continue to write in with the belief that Grandpa Shawn or Phillip are the killers. I'm going to have to return to my older theories that the killer is either Nicole, or a different person committed each of the murders, under Stefano's control. Though it was very suspicious that Phillip happened to be late for his mother's wedding!

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Originally posted by ClassicTV4Ever
I thought I heard that JER said that the killer is somebody already on the show, and is a beloved character, and Marlena is one of the most beloved characters on the show. But, thinking one step ahead of JER, the killer won't be the real Marlena :)

:nod:

[No Recess]

Marlena

[starsprite]

Click for a spoiler on the killer!!

http://www.soapoperafan.com/days/storyspoil.html

[Christopher]

The guy who plays Tony told in an interview Marlena is the killer. I am glad he did that, it's a good way of getting back at Days for killing him off the bastards :mad:

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Originally posted by Lothos
The guy who plays Tony told in an interview Marlena is the killer. I am glad he did that, it's a good way of getting back at Days for killing him off the bastards :mad:

Yes but it has been said that it was told in a jokingly way that he was just kidding. But if you've read that interview he's either joking or he is a totally a-hole, because the things he says about the ladies, Alison, Deidre, and Tanya. Now, the stuff he says about the teens, is true and funny. lol

[Christopher]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
Yes but it has been said that it was told in a jokingly way that he was just kidding. But if you've read that interview he's either joking or he is a totally a-hole, because the things he says about the ladies, Alison, Deidre, and Tanya. Now, the stuff he says about the teens, is true and funny. lol




I didn't read the interview, I just read a few posts from boards about it. What did he say about them?


The way Marlena is acting, I don't doubt for a minute she is the killer.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Well, I've been on the Marlena is the killer wagon for a long time, lol. She's acting like she's on crack. But I just wanted to say that the lady that is Thaoo's fanclub person said that he was joking when he said that, and when he said the rest of this stuff:

He was saying how he kissed Ali in a scene out of the blue, and she slapped him, and she turned to walk off and he slapped her butt and she told him he better not EVER do it again. And he was talking about how he "liked" Deidre, how he had a thing for her. Then he was saying that Tanya Boyd, when he's in scenes with her he acts like he and Celeste are screwing each other. Those were his exact words. Then he says a bunch of stuff about how the teen actors don't know what they are doing and that they dont' know how to act, and that they're stupid basically is what he was saying. lol He also said that Reilly fired him to teach the other actors a lesson, Reilly thought Thaoo had told something so he fired him.

[wayman]

I know she isn't one of the suspects, but I had a dream last night that the killer was Billie Reed. I dreamed I was one of the cast members of the show and the producers gathered the cast together and revealed Billie as the Salem Stalker. Of course, I know its been said that the killer is someone currently on the show so this wouldn't be plausible, but it was an interesting dream.

[~*Belle N'Shawn forever~*]

Marlena is the Killer of Salem b/c she is the one that kille Tony and he knew that it was her she snuck in his room and put something in his IV,, to stop his heart and that. So ITS MARLENA BLACK

[TGirl]

I don't like where this story is going. Does it even make sense?

When Maggie let the killer into her house on Halloween night -- she said something like "I know I don't know you very well . . ."

That means it couldn't have been Marlena. Did Maggie even know Hattie at all? I don't think so.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by TGirl
I don't like where this story is going. Does it even make sense?

When Maggie let the killer into her house on Halloween night -- she said something like "I know I don't know you very well . . ."

That means it couldn't have been Marlena. Did Maggie even know Hattie at all? I don't think so.

I agree that this is very confusing. But I just read on Dustin's page that Deidre Hall has been making several television appearance and gave some spoilers. One was the fact that Marlena herself really is the killer. Not a clone, not a twin, not Hattie, and no brain chip or mind control. And also there will be a shocking twist in May that has never been done on daytime before. I also don't like the way they are taking this storyline unless at some point Marlena is able to redeem herself and she and John get back together.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

I'm confident that Reilly will reunite Jarlena, and I'm also confident that Marlena will somehow be redemmed in the end. I think I know the main premise of the big cliff hanger in May but I'm not saying anything it's just speculation and gut feelings, so for now I'll keep it inside. But I do believe the next victom may be Celeste, I found it strange that Celeste was not mentioned in any February Sweeps spoilers, and Marlena kills another victom in Feb. so it seems that Celeste may be out.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by I Dream of Jeannie
I'm confident that Reilly will reunite Jarlena, and I'm also confident that Marlena will somehow be redemmed in the end. I think I know the main premise of the big cliff hanger in May but I'm not saying anything it's just speculation and gut feelings, so for now I'll keep it inside. But I do believe the next victom may be Celeste, I found it strange that Celeste was not mentioned in any February Sweeps spoilers, and Marlena kills another victom in Feb. so it seems that Celeste may be out.

Oh my gosh, I'd sure love to know. Feel free to PM me your thoughts if you'd like :)

[TGirl]

originally posted by me
I don't like where this story is going. Does it even make sense?

When Maggie let the killer into her house on Halloween night -- she said something like "I know I don't know you very well . . ."

That means it couldn't have been Marlena. Did Maggie even know Hattie at all? I don't think so.

Does anyone think there could be a possibility of two killers?

[ClassicTV4Ever]

First off, here's my thoughts on who is going to be next to be killed (in order): Celeste, Shawn, and I think the final victim (a shocker) is going to be BELLE! Couldn't the thing that Reily said has never been done on daytime before be that a parent kills thier child? Just a thought. I'm not sure if that has ever been done before or not.

[I Dream of Jeannie]

Originally posted by ClassicTV4Ever
First off, here's my thoughts on who is going to be next to be killed (in order): Celeste, Shawn, and I think the final victim (a shocker) is going to be BELLE! Couldn't the thing that Reily said has never been done on daytime before be that a parent kills thier child? Just a thought. I'm not sure if that has ever been done before or not.

I'm thinking you could be right about Belle, I don't think that has happened before. I think there is going to be some huge confrontation at some point and Belle will be there with her parents.

[Brian Damage]

Did the pyscic get killed? I'm sorry I forgot her name.

[ClassicTV4Ever]

Originally posted by Brian Damage
Did the pyscic get killed? I'm sorry I forgot her name.

You're thinking of Celeste :) No she's not dead, but it's looking like she will be.

[TGirl]

Marlena may be the serial killer -- but, she must have had some kind of "accomplice". Someone else has to be involved -- why else would Maggie have commented to the killer that she didn't really know her that well? I have always had my suspicions about Bonnie Lockhart.