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Crimson and Clover
03-27-2003, 05:17 PM
i know ive been posting a lot, but hell this is what the board is for. :)

Will Middle America Board the Peace Train?

By Traci Hukill, AlterNet
March 24, 2003

Consider the difference between two anti-war demonstrations that
took place last week in Washington:

On Wednesday, March 19, the night the war began, a half-dozen women
in pink wearing gruesome war-victim makeup and mock bandages led a
crowd of 200 protesters from DuPont Circle to the Kalorama home of
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld about a mile away. They managed to
stop rush-hour traffic en route, had a brief skirmish with police in
which a young man was arrested, and presented a child-sized coffin
made of Styrofoam to a two-story brick house across from the French
ambassador's palatial residence.

"Donald Rumsfeld!" shouted Medea Benjamin. "Shame on you! You've got
the blood of Iraqi civilians on your hands!"

A cry went up from the demonstrators. Some were already lying down,
staging a die-in on the street. "Donald, come get this casket! How
are you going to sleep at night knowing this war is immoral, unjust
and illegal?" When the group turned to leave 45 minutes later,
Benjamin propped up the Styrofoam coffin on the roof of a silver
Impala parked in front of the house. It was Code Pink at its best â€" vocal, theatrical and radical.

The following Saturday, after U.S. forces had shocked and awed
Baghdad and the rest of the world with a brutal all-night pummeling,
a more august group of speakers took turns at the podium in the
chapel at American University to denounce Bush's doctrine of
preemptive war and the imperialist posture implied therein. A Nobel
Peace Prize winner, retired military officers, Vietnam veterans,
former intelligence agents, scholars, celebrated leakers of Pentagon
Papers â€" one by one they laid out their arguments in the language
and environment of the academy.

The audience of 250 or so, composed mostly of students, erupted into
rowdy applause, especially when John Brown, the diplomat who
tendered his resignation to the State Department last week over
objections to the war, took the stage. But this time the C-SPAN
cameras were rolling. And while protesters by the hundreds get
arrested in San Francisco, and Code Pink keeps beating its drum, it
is this movement, the one gaining momentum among the middleweights
of the political and military establishment, that might finally get
mainstream America on board the anti-war wagon.

It helps that this particular part of the antiwar movement has as
its unofficial centerpiece a very official document: the National
Security Strategy, released by the White House in September 2002.

Middle America â€" indeed, Western civilization â€" loves documents.
Documents bear the stamp of legitimacy. They can be examined,
referred to, brandished. They literally put issues in black and
white. The National Security Strategy lays out the doctrine for
preemptive war. Its summary contains this paragraph:

"We will cooperate with other nations to deny, contain, and curtail
our enemies' efforts to acquire dangerous technologies. And, as a
matter of common sense and self-defense, America will act against
such emerging threats before they are fully formed. We cannot defend
America and our friends by hoping for the best. So we must be
prepared to defeat our enemies' plans, using the best intelligence
and proceeding with deliberation. History will judge harshly those
who saw this coming danger but failed to act. In the new world we
have entered, the only path to peace and security is the path of
action."

It was the emergence of this manifesto prescribing preemptive
military action, one year after 9/11, that spurred Gulf War veterans
Charles Sheehan-Miles, Erik Gustafson, Erin Cole and Dan Fahey to
form Veterans For Common Sense (www.veteransforcommonsense.org), a
primary organizer of the teach-in at American University. Two weeks
ago VCS sent a letter to President Bush objecting to the war. It was
signed by more than 1,000 veterans, among them two vice-admirals, a
brigadier general and a handful of colonels.

"The White House policy is frightening, and it basically spells out
empire for the U.S. I don't know what else to call it," says Sheehan-
Miles. "This is such a dramatic change in what American foreign
policy is all about that we should be having a huge public debate
about it. And we're not â€" all we're having a debate about are
these other things: Saddam Hussein, regime change â€" something does
need to be done about Saddam Hussein, but this isn't it."
Coming from a combat veteran, Sheehan-Miles' words might carry extra
weight for the 76 percent of Americans who now support the war. But
if Sheehan-Miles, who left the Army as a conscientious objector
after his unit's killing of undefended Iraqis left him badly shaken,
isn't convincing enough for Middle America, there's always Ret. Rear
Admiral Gene LaRocque.

LaRocque survived the destruction of his ship at Pearl Harbor to
fight in World War II and command a nuclear-armed carrier task force
during the Cold War. Later he was a planner in the Pentagon. No
squishy-minded peacenik, he.

On Saturday, LaRocque stood at the microphone in full Navy regalia
and in mild, avuncular tones excoriated those who would cast
aspersions on the right to dissent in wartime, the burgeoning
militarism taking root here and the nation's "pride and joy" in its
precision weapons. And he criticized one of the main principles
enshrined in the Bush doctrine: That it is America's "responsibility
to lead" the rest of the world to freedom.

"Is it the sole responsibility of the U.S. to decide which nations'
form of government will stand and which will fall?" he asked. "Is it
the responsibility of the U.S. to kill or destroy to bring about a
change of government? I think not. I don't believe George Bush has
the right to kill one person to bring about a change in government."

LaRocque was inspiringly set up by Bobby Muller, president of the
Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation. A Marine lieutenant in
Vietnam, Muller took a bullet that severed his spinal cord and left
him paralyzed from the chest down. He has since campaigned
unceasingly for veterans' rights, for reconciliation with the people
of Vietnam and for the international banning of land mines, for
which he received a Nobel Peace Prize in 1997.

The parallels with Iraq and Vietnam are obvious. But Iraq is not the
problem, said Muller. "This is only the beginning. Iraq will be over
in a few days. The problem is an ideology that is controlling this
administration. It has to do with how you look at the world and
America's role in the world. It's called the Bush doctrine."

Muller laid out the doctrine's history. In 1992, Dick Cheney, then
Secretary of Defense for President George Bush, and Paul Wolfowitz,
then Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, leaked a draft of a plan
for the aggressive establishment of American dominance in the post-
Cold War era under the aegis of the Committee for Peace and Security
in the Gulf. It sparked a firestorm, and Bush, worried about a
reelection campaign he was about to lose, repudiated it. It
resurfaced in 1997 when the Project for a New American Century
formed. This time the doctrine was signed onto by Project founder
William Kristol, Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld, among others. In
September 2002 their creation finally found a home in the National
Security Strategy.

"At its heart is the notion of exceptionalism â€" that America is in
a unique position, it has the responsibility of leadership. It must
maintain absolute military supremacy â€" no other group of countries
is to get to the point where they can compete," said Muller.

"It takes us not only to preemption â€" which implies an imminent
threat â€" but to prevention, before the point of imminent threat is reached. Iraq is preventive, not preemptive. I tell you this so you
will know we are more than a decade behind and understand the
magnitude of what we are up against, and the head start these guys
have on us," Muller said.

The civilians were there, too. John Brown, who joined John Brady
Kiesling and Mary Wright in leaving the State Department because of
their objections to the war, slammed Bush for employing "the crudest
propaganda to make us believe his positions are justifiable" and
skewered the use of slogans and the demonization of critics in place
of coherent arguments.

Ray McGovern, a former intelligence officer and founder of the
Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, debunked the alleged
connection between Hussein and al-Qaeda and drew perhaps the
harshest conclusion of all about the historical moment at which
America finds itself as its soldiers invade a country that poses no
imminent threat:

"I was born in August, 1939, one week before Hitler sent troops into
Poland," McGovern said. "I have been thinking March 2003 is our
August 1939."

It has taken time, but the middleweights of the establishment â€"
and some of the heavyweights â€" have found a point around which to
rally. The comparisons to World War II keep coming. In a March 23
Los Angeles Times commentary, special assistant to President Kennedy
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. added his voice to the chorus of dissent.
His subject: the Bush doctrine.

"The choice reflects a fatal turn in U.S. foreign policy,"
Schlesinger wrote. "The president has adopted a policy
of 'anticipatory self-defense' that is alarmingly similar to the
policy that imperial Japan employed at Pearl Harbor on a date which,
as an earlier American president said it would, lives in infamy.
Franklin D. Roosevelt was right, but today it is we Americans who
live in infamy."

This is what the anti-war movement has needed in order to reach the
living rooms between the coasts: the mantle of respectability.
Criticism of the administration by civic and military leaders has
been mighty scarce around Washington, and Saturday's teach-in was a
first.

In the end there was one denizen of the establishment â€" okay, a
former denizen of the establishment â€" who bridged the gap between
this faction of the peace movement and the Code Pink crowd.

Daniel Ellsberg, who stood trial in 1973 on 12 felony counts for
leaking the Pentagon Papers and exposing the Nixon administration's
willful deceit of the American public in order to drum up support
for the Vietnam War, arrived at the teach-in rather reluctantly. He
had decided to spend the weekend in jail to register his displeasure
â€" "I just didn't want to watch television this weekend," he
deadpanned â€" and had been sprung by the event's organizers, to his
visible annoyance. He was intending to go back later that day and
still wore the plastic bracelet of the District of Columbia's
hospitality.

Ellsberg spoke about another unjust war, the Mexican-American War. The wresting of Texas from Mexico was condemned by none other than
General Ulysses Grant as "one of the most unjust wars ever waged by
a stronger power against a weaker," a cynical attempt to acquire
territory out of which a slave state could be formed.

"I believe that a consequence of this wrongful war will be wrongful
terrorism," Ellsberg concluded. "The question is: what do you do
about it?"

He answered himself with a quote by Henry David Thoreau. "Cast your
whole vote," he said, showing his bracelet. "I voted. As they used
to say in Boston, vote early and vote often. Thank you."

Traci Hukill is a freelance writer in Washington, DC.

Jem
03-27-2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Crimson_and_Clover
this war is immoral, unjust and illegal
Miles. "This is such a dramatic change in what American foreign
policy is all about that we should be having a huge public debate
about it. something does need to be done about Saddam Hussein, but this isn't it."

And he criticized one of the main principles
enshrined in the Bush doctrine: That it is America's "responsibility
to lead" the rest of the world to freedom.

"Is it the sole responsibility of the U.S. to decide which nations'
form of government will stand and which will fall?" he asked. "Is it
the responsibility of the U.S. to kill or destroy to bring about a
change of government? I think not. I don't believe George Bush has the right to kill one person to bring about a change in government."
"I was born in August, 1939, one week before Hitler sent troops into
Poland," McGovern said. "I have been thinking March 2003 is our
August 1939."

The comparisons to World War II keep coming.




I also think this war is immoral, unjust and illegal. The U.S.A. shouldn't be allowed to go ahead without U.N. approval. Saddam Hussein shouldn't be in Iraq, but injuring civilians in the process of trying to get Saddam won't help any. I also agree that George Bush doesn't have the right to kill people to help a government in a country he doesn't live in. Iraq has been left alone for years. It should stay that way. March 2003 is a lot like 1939. World War 3 hasn't arrived yet since in the bible code it says 2006, but it is going to come. The war is inevitable. It makes me sad knowing about a war that can't be stopped. On page 124 of "The Bible Code" written is: "WORLD WAR 2006". On page 125 of "The Bible Code" written is: "ATOMIC HOLOCAUST 2006".
Source: The Bible Code by Michael Drosnin

The comparison of 1939 and 2003/2006 I think shows that this war is a bit of both a world war and an atomic holocaust put together.

Fleet
03-27-2003, 09:57 PM
How can we get U.N. approval when France would automatically veto any such resolution?
The U.N. had 12 years to do something about Iraq. They failed. Now, it's our turn to remove Saddam Insane.