Bi/Gay/Les thread

[pandora_spocks]

I thought I'd start one of these threads for those of you who swing that way. ;)

What sites do you all visit? I usually go to ikissgirls.org, but it's on hiatus so lately I've been going to their livejournal. Just curious to what other sites are out there that you guys would recommend.
Talk about whatever on here that relates to the topic. :wave:

[fr00ti]

I dont go to any special sites I just drool over my women. ;) :D

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
I dont go to any special sites I just drool over my women. ;) :D
:lol: My women...love it:lol:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
I dont go to any special sites I just drool over my women. ;) :D

:lol: You're funny, Madelyn! ;)

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


:lol: You're funny, Madelyn! ;)

i know:D

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL


i know:D
:lol: Dont hold back Mads!!


WOOWOO!!

[fr00ti]

My motto:
Martina=My dream.....
You know what they say, DO YOURE DREAM!;) :D

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
I dont go to any special sites I just drool over my women. ;) :D
It's the other way around for me. I drool over the men. I hope that will change soon though because it's really tearing me apart in the inside. I'm so confused. :(

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by LucyFan

It's the other way around for me. I drool over the men. I hope that will change soon though because it's really tearing me apart in the inside. I'm so confused. :(

I know excactly how you feel. People tell me I'm bi, and then they tell me I wont know till Ive you know..... done it. And It gets really confusing and It makes me depressed. Sometimes It feels like no one understands, too. But I try to just deal with it by saying what I feel, and some people dont ask me about it.. but the ones who do hurt me by making me question myself. Im confused too.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL


I know excactly how you feel. People tell me I'm bi, and then they tell me I wont know till Ive you know..... done it. And It gets really confusing and It makes me depressed. Sometimes It feels like no one understands, too. But I try to just deal with it by saying what I feel, and some people dont ask me about it.. but the ones who do hurt me by making me question myself. Im confused too.

Ugh, I used to be so confused. I always thought that if you were a girl you HAD to be attracted to men otherwise you'd be just weird, but come to think of it I pretended to like guys to be what straight people would call *normal,* and yet I still wasn't accepted so I've decided to just say f*ck it. If you don't like me for me then to hell with you.

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL


I know excactly how you feel. People tell me I'm bi, and then they tell me I wont know till Ive you know..... done it. And It gets really confusing and It makes me depressed. Sometimes It feels like no one understands, too. But I try to just deal with it by saying what I feel, and some people dont ask me about it.. but the ones who do hurt me by making me question myself. Im confused too.
Tell them to suck it. No wait.. even better. For all your straight friends who are virgins, ask THEM how theyre so sure theyre straight! I mean- if they can make you doubt your orientation... make them doubt theirs. Maybe they'll get the hint.

[fr00ti]

Today at school some people I know were talking about how Bisexual people were weird and sick, and It was everything I could do to keep from saying something to them. I mean I hate hiding away from it in front of people, but If I dont theyll either kill me or never talk to me again. God it sucks sometimes!

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by •Shotz|NYC•

Tell them to suck it. No wait.. even better. For all your straight friends who are virgins, ask THEM how theyre so sure theyre straight! I mean- if they can make you doubt your orientation... make them doubt theirs. Maybe they'll get the hint.

Id really love to, but Im a wimp. LOL

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
Today at school some people I know were talking about how Bisexual people were weird and sick, and It was everything I could do to keep from saying something to them. I mean I hate hiding away from it in front of people, but If I dont theyll either kill me or never talk to me again. God it sucks sometimes!

When I would spend my days in high school instead of going to lunch and straight to the girls bathroom with a couple of friends (who would always smoke, hehe) other girls would come in and talk about bisexuals. One particular thing they said that disturbed me was 'what's wrong with bi's? they can't decided which sex they wanna f*ck?' it went into much more detail, but i decided to cut most of it out. Come to think of it, I should've b*tched slap those girls.

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
I know excactly how you feel. People tell me I'm bi, and then they tell me I wont know till Ive you know..... done it. And It gets really confusing and It makes me depressed. Sometimes It feels like no one understands, too. But I try to just deal with it by saying what I feel, and some people dont ask me about it.. but the ones who do hurt me by making me question myself. Im confused too.

I get depressed too about the whole issue. I sometimes feel I'm trapped in the wrong body. And that really depresses me. Then, I have friends of mine who are attracted to girls that encourage me to like get with a girl. As far as I am concerned, I don't want to be with a girl. It is like I have no urge to have one in the first place while other boys my age do. It feels really weird and awkward. Then I take in account what the Bible says about the issue since I am a Christian. According to the scripture, homosexuality is immoral. And from what I have been taught, the Bible is the most important book in the whole wide world and that true Christians should not question it but believe it because it's the whole truth. Then, after I see what the Bible says I come to realize that it is not helping me much because it's basically saying I am wrong for the way I feel. Well, I necessarily don't feel wrong about it. It is like a big contradiction.

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by LucyFan


I get depressed too about the whole issue. I sometimes feel I'm trapped in the wrong body. And that really depresses me. Then on top of that, I have friends of mine who are attracted to girls that encourage me to like get with a girl. As far as I am concerned, I really don't care about having a girlfriend. It is like I have no urge to have one in the first place while other boys my age do. It feels really weird. Then there's the Bible. According to the scripture, homosexuality is immoral. And from what I have been taught, the Bible is the most important book in the whole wide world and that true Christians should not question it but believe it because it's the whole truth.

Me too, Me too. And I go to bible study every wednesday, and come home and think.... "God sometimes I feel I'm so wrong, but sometimes It feels so right." I dont get it, I mean I think "How could these thoughts ever come into my head if theyre supposed to be wrong?" It makes me nuts.

[Honey2TheBee]

Well , im straight and im only 15 and i'd understand why u woulden't accept my opinion .. but what ever!
My best Friends sister is gay and she is a rly nice person...and i can see past the fact that she is gay and i dont judge her by it...But imature ppl do! And i feel rly bad for ppl who go threw that.
So , i can't say that i can relate to u but i just want to say that u shouldn't listen to ppl who say that.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by LucyFan


I get depressed too about the whole issue. I sometimes feel I'm trapped in the wrong body. And that really depresses me. Then, I have friends of mine who are attracted to girls that encourage me to like get with a girl. As far as I am concerned, I don't want to be with a girl. It is like I have no urge to have one in the first place while other boys my age do. It feels really weird and awkward. Then I take in account what the Bible says about the issue since I am a Christian. According to the scripture, homosexuality is immoral. And from what I have been taught, the Bible is the most important book in the whole wide world and that true Christians should not question it but believe it because it's the whole truth.

I know that there are people out there with different religions and believe in the bible and stuff, but honestly do what feels right to YOU. It's your body, your life whatever makes you feel happy is what you should do. Okay, so I'm not applying this to say going out and shooting someone, but you get my drift. Whatever makes you happy is what you should go with no matter what the consequences within this life or after. To be honest, if being a lesbian and not going to church or whatever is a sin they i'm going to hell obviously, but I honestly don't care one way or another.

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I know that there are people out there with different religions and believe in the bible and stuff, but honestly do what feels right to YOU.
Thanks for the advice but I just can't do it. I don't want to have to suffer the consequences in the end. Besides, what we may feel is right might be wrong according to the word of God. And from what I have been taught is that Christians should do what is right according to the Bible not according to what we feel is right.


It's your body, your life whatever makes you feel happy is what you should do. Okay, so I'm not applying this to say going out and shooting someone, but you get my drift. Whatever makes you happy is what you should go with no matter what the consequences within this life or after. To be honest, if being a lesbian and not going to church or whatever is a sin they i'm going to hell obviously, but I honestly don't care one way or another.
Yes, indeed its my body but it is also the temple of God where he lives in me. And whatever makes me happy might seperate me from God. I am not ready nor will ever be ready to do that risk.

[RollerGirl]

No one's ever gonna know the real you inside better than you do so don't worry if anybody thinks your confused, or whatever...trust yourself. :)

[Chocoholic]

I'm straight and Christian, and I have nothing against gay people. I've found that a lot of gay/bi/transexual people people that I've met happen to be a lot kinder, more tolerant, and more accepting of differences than some straight people I've met. Love who YOU feel like loving.

I know how it feels to be picked on all the time because of something you can't control. I have multiple handicaps and you wouldn't believe some of the rudeness that I've encountered in my life. Sadly, there are many people in this world who are terrified of things that are different.

[Faith]

I am Bi as most of you already know.. I first realized I was interested in women when I was 15 ( so about 7 years ago, give or take), and I still haven't came out to my family yet. and I don't know if i will ever be able to. Most of my family would probably never talk to me again if I told them. Especially my dad. My friends are really great about it. They like me for me, not for my sexual preference.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by LucyFan

Thanks for the advice but I just can't do it. I don't want to have to suffer the consequences in the end. Besides, what we may feel is right might be wrong according to the word of God. And from what I have been taught is that Christians should do what is right according to the Bible not according to what we feel is right.
Yes, indeed its my body but it is also the temple of God where he lives in me. And whatever makes me happy might seperate me from God. I am not ready nor will ever be ready to do that risk.

Well, okay whatever. That's fine for you, but I don't follow the bible and I don't have your religion so I don't see it that way, but to each his own. :wave:

[Kristina]

Originally posted by LucyFan

Yes, indeed its my body but it is also the temple of God where he lives in me. And whatever makes me happy might seperate me from God. I am not ready nor will ever be ready to do that risk.

Since when was being happy a risk? You should be yourself, God didn't write the bible and being prejudice is just wrong, so if God was a prejudice then he wasn't a good person. Be yourself.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Avril Lavigne


Since when was being happy a risk? You should be yourself, God didn't write the bible and being prejudice is just wrong, so if God was a prejudice then he wasn't good. Be yourself.

Well said, Kristina! :clap: :D

[Kristina]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Well said, Kristina! :clap: :D

thanx :D

[C Doody]

I Am In Love With A Man....























Myself :D

[RollerGirl]

Originally posted by Chad Doody
I Am In Love With A Man....






Myself :D


The funny part is he's not kidding lol ;)

:rotflmao:

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by Avril Lavigne
Since when was being happy a risk? You should be yourself, God didn't write the bible and being prejudice is just wrong, so if God was a prejudice then he wasn't a good person. Be yourself.
Being happy is not a risk at all, it's the thing that causes you to be happy that might be the risk. I am not saying that it is definitely the risk. For an example, say if a Christian who reads the Bible daily and spends time with Lord starts getting into something that really interests his/her. So the Christian is found doing that something more often. He or she is totally overwhelmed and begins to be obsessed. Reading the Bible and praying doesn't interest the person anymore and begins to pay less attention to his/her spiritual life. Meanwhile, that something is now on the person's mind 24 hours a day non-stop. By this time, the Christian isn't reading the Bible, nor praying, and is totally ignoring God. His/her spiritual life eventually dies and the Christian is found suffering of obsession and seperated from God.
Yes, God didn't write the Bible but he might as well had. Because through the Holy Spirit, the writers were inspired and the words were given to them in their thoughts as they wrote down the word of God.

[C Doody]

Originally posted by LucyFan

Being happy is not a risk at all, it's the thing that causes you to be happy that might be the risk. I am not saying that it is definitely the risk. For an example, say if a Christian who reads the Bible daily and spends time with Lord starts getting into something that really interests them. So the Christian is found doing that something more often. He or she is totally overwhelmed and begins to be obsessed. Reading the Bible and praying doesn't interest the person anymore and begins to pay less attention to his/her spiritual life. Meanwhile, that something is now on the person's mind 24 hours a day non-stop. By this time, the Christian isn't reading the Bible, praying, and is totally ignoring God. His/her spiritual life eventually dies and the Christian is found suffering of obsession and seperated from God.
Yes, God didn't write the Bible but he might as well had. Because through the Holy Spirit, God inspired the writers and gave them the words that he wanted them to write down.

I Gotta Agree with you. I Have nothing against Gay People, As long as someones nice and has the same interests as me, Than their my friend. But as far as the lifestyle goes. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Paul. Alot of people make the mistake of thinking The Bible says Gay people are evil or something, But thats not true. Go says love everyone equally, And they should.

As I said, I Really dont agree with it. Its like someone who smokes or drinks, I Dont agree with it, But its up to them, I Dont feel its right, But its their life to live. And as long as they dont do anything to me, Than everyones ok in my book.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by LucyFan

Being happy is not a risk at all, it's the thing that causes you to be happy that might be the risk. I am not saying that it is definitely the risk. For an example, say if a Christian who reads the Bible daily and spends time with Lord starts getting into something that really interests them. So the Christian is found doing that something more often. He or she is totally overwhelmed and begins to be obsessed. Reading the Bible and praying doesn't interest the person anymore and begins to pay less attention to his/her spiritual life. Meanwhile, that something is now on the person's mind 24 hours a day non-stop. By this time, the Christian isn't reading the Bible, praying, and is totally ignoring God. His/her spiritual life eventually dies and the Christian is found suffering of obsession and seperated from God.
Yes, God didn't write the Bible but he might as well had. Because through the Holy Spirit, God inspired the writers and gave them the words that he wanted them to write down.

Hmm..sounds like me and my obsessions. :lol:
Oh well, but the way I see it if a person reads the bible everyday they become obsessed with doing that. Okay, maybe not obsessed, but it does become routine like everything else we do. I'm not saying that it's bad that you do read the bible I'm just saying you shouldn't pin yourself down because a book says it's not right to do what you feel. I understand that people like to live their lives by it, but its just not for me. Besides, if homosexuality wasn't right then why in the world would it be here? Because the devil made us do it? Oh come on, that's so old. I'm sick of hearing it, really. Could we please get back to the actual point of this thread? :rolleyes:

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I'm not saying that it's bad that you do read the bible I'm just saying you shouldn't pin yourself down because a book says it's not right to do what you feel.
Yes, The Bible is a book but it is also the words from God. I can't just simply ignore his words and go only by mine or someone elses. Mine aren't as great as his. And he knows better than I do.
I am sorry for even getting into this topic in the first place but it links to my issue with homosexuality.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by LucyFan

Yes, The Bible is a book but it is also the words from God. I can't just simply ignore his words and go only by mine or someone elses. Mine aren't as great as his. And he knows better than I do.
I am sorry for even getting into this topic in the first place but it links to my issue with homosexuality.

Okay, I'm sorry I didn't mean to get into such a big thing about this. I should've respected how you see this issue. I'm usually much more open to how others feel despite my upbringing. If you feel that you shouldn't have these kind of feelings because you see as it being wrong (according to the bible) then, okay. I just didn't see it the way you did, thats all.

[nmnf920]

Originally posted by Chad Doody
God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Paul.
Adam and steve lol me and my friend made up that those would be the 1st 2 ppl if god preferred homosexuality.

[Unwanted Angel]

Well i'm not ashamed to admit i am Bisexual...It's just me if people don't like it i just tell them to f*ck of....

I usally just go to TC sites and look for pictures of Joyce to add to my shrine :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18
Well i'm not ashamed to admit i am Bisexual...It's just me if people don't like it i just tell them to f*ck of....

I usally just go to TC sites and look for pictures of Joyce to add to my shrine :D

I'm not ashamed of being a lesbian in fact it has a lovely ring to it. :lol: I think it's cool how you love Joyce so much. ;)

[Unwanted Angel]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I'm not ashamed of being a lesbian in fact it has a lovely ring to it. :lol: I think it's cool how you love Joyce so much. ;)

Awww thanks... *Hugs Holly* Just call me head over heels in love :)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18


Awww thanks... *Hugs Holly* Just call me head over heels in love :)

:bighug:
Oh, I know you are! ;)

[Unwanted Angel]

LES?GAY/AND BI PEOPLE FU*KIN ROCK :rock: :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18
LES?GAY/AND BI PEOPLE FU*KIN ROCK :rock: :D

:woohoo: :D

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18
LES?GAY/AND BI PEOPLE FU*KIN ROCK :rock: :D

Hell yeah sista! :rock: :D

[Crimson and Clover]

im bi, im proud and happy and i dont care what any body else thinks about me. they can just f*ck off.

[Unwanted Angel]

:D Straight people are mad because we are not like them...

[Crimson and Clover]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18
LES?GAY/AND BI PEOPLE FU*KIN ROCK :rock: :D

thats for damn sure :rock:

[Unwanted Angel]

Originally posted by Crimson_and_Clover


thats for damn sure :rock:

:D :rock:

[Kristina]

Originally posted by LucyFan

Being happy is not a risk at all, it's the thing that causes you to be happy that might be the risk. I am not saying that it is definitely the risk. For an example, say if a Christian who reads the Bible daily and spends time with Lord starts getting into something that really interests his/her. So the Christian is found doing that something more often. He or she is totally overwhelmed and begins to be obsessed. Reading the Bible and praying doesn't interest the person anymore and begins to pay less attention to his/her spiritual life. Meanwhile, that something is now on the person's mind 24 hours a day non-stop. By this time, the Christian isn't reading the Bible, nor praying, and is totally ignoring God. His/her spiritual life eventually dies and the Christian is found suffering of obsession and seperated from God.
Yes, God didn't write the Bible but he might as well had. Because through the Holy Spirit, the writers were inspired and the words were given to them in their thoughts as they wrote down the word of God.

I think you're too into religion, you can still be religious and not focus your life around it. But you know it's your choice, so do as you please.

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by Avril Lavigne
I think you're too into religion, you can still be religious and not focus your life around it. But you know it's your choice, so do as you please.
That's fine. There is nothing wrong with being "too close to God". He's the creator and his children, the Christians, are called to serve him. :)

[Faith]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18
LES?GAY/AND BI PEOPLE FU*KIN ROCK :rock: :D


We Sure Do :rock: :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Faith
I am Bi as most of you already know.. I first realized I was interested in women when I was 15 ( so about 7 years ago, give or take), and I still haven't came out to my family yet. and I don't know if i will ever be able to. Most of my family would probably never talk to me again if I told them. Especially my dad. My friends are really great about it. They like me for me, not for my sexual preference.

The only people in my family that I've told are my brother, my mom, and my cousin. The only person who was kinda shocked was my cousin. He just couldn't understand how I could switch from liking guys to liking girls. Easy, I was pretending to like guys..:lol: And yet, people still didn't accept me for who I am so screw anyone who doesn't like me for me. 'Cause in the end I probably won't need those people anyway. :rolleyes:
As for your parents, I'm kinda lucky though I told my mom at the worst possible time and yet she still didn't make a big fuss over it and throw me out like I thought she would. She doesn't really care that I prefer girls over boys. It's no biggie to her. As for my dad well, I haven't told him, but I could say it right to his face and he wouldn't hear me anyway 'cause it's like I don't exist to him anyway. Good luck on telling your family when the time is right. I hope things turn out better than you expect.

[-*Leah*-]

I am straight, and I don't have a problem with bisexual people, even though I really don't agree with the lifestyle, I see no reason to be mean to people because of the "gender" of people that they are attracted to. Thats just a stupid way to be.:rolleyes:

[Faith]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks

Good luck on telling your family when the time is right. I hope things turn out better than you expect.

Thanks :)

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Something Ive noticed about gays/lesbians. Im straight, but maybe someone gay/lessbian notices the same thing. To me, from what Ive seen it seems like society accepts lesbians more than they accept gays. Im not saying lesbians have it easy or anything, but I dunno.. its like guys think of lesbians as being these hot things when in reality there are some really nasty lesbians and yet all the cute guys are gay! LOl.:crazy: Thoughts?

[Mossopp]

Originally posted by •Shotz|NYC•
To me, from what Ive seen it seems like society accepts lesbians more than they accept gays. Im not saying lesbians have it easy or anything, but I dunno.. its like guys think of lesbians as being these hot things when in reality there are some really nasty lesbians and yet all the cute guys are gay! LOl.:crazy: Thoughts?

I'm afraid I really have to disagree with you on this one. I'm a lesbian and I've gotten just as much, if not more, crap from narrow-minded people than any of my gay male friends. Maybe it's more acceptable to be a lesbian if you're one of those women where your homosexuality is not neccesarily apparent from your outward appearance. If you're like myself - slightly boyish, baggy clothes, short hair - then people really do pick up on that and they will give you hassle.
I live in a small crappy town though - I get abuse hurled at me just walking round the block. When I go into the city for a day, I can wander around for hours without anyone saying anything. I think a lot of it has to do with where you are and the type of idiots you have to live with.

[Czas na Zywiec]

Originally posted by •Shotz|NYC•
Something Ive noticed about gays/lesbians. Im straight, but maybe someone gay/lessbian notices the same thing. To me, from what Ive seen it seems like society accepts lesbians more than they accept gays. Im not saying lesbians have it easy or anything, but I dunno.. its like guys think of lesbians as being these hot things when in reality there are some really nasty lesbians and yet all the cute guys are gay! LOl.:crazy: Thoughts?

Well women tend to be more 'touchy-feely' with their emotions and let them expose them outward more while with guys, you have to be macho, and any hint of emotion makes you look weak and fragile. I'm not saying that lesbians have it any easier than gay men, but that's basically the way society is set up. Stupid if you ask me.

[CollegeGirl]

LucyFan, I agree with your comments on spirituality. They are my own, or have always been. Recent events (that I have not nor plan to talk about) have made me question this, but I don't think anything can ever get me to see otherwise.



On the other hand, I have always deemed myself straight. No questions. Right? Well, then I met this girl who is pretty, smart, fun. She's got the most beautfiul eyes. Something about how she looks at me.....wow, goes right through me. So, yeah we have fun, goof around, and even...dare I say it? I do. We flirt. It's fun. And it has made me see an entirely different viewpoint. But, I still wouldn't date her or any other girl. That'd just be too weird for me to handle. I'm into guys. But, I have more of an appreciation for those who do.

[nmnf920]

Every1 i know is straight. Woohoo were better.

[Mossopp]

Originally posted by CollegeGirl

I have always deemed myself straight. No questions. Right? Well, then I met this girl who is pretty, smart, fun. She's got the most beautfiul eyes. Something about how she looks at me.....wow, goes right through me. So, yeah we have fun, goof around, and even...dare I say it? I do. We flirt. It's fun. And it has made me see an entirely different viewpoint. But, I still wouldn't date her or any other girl. That'd just be too weird for me to handle. I'm into guys. But, I have more of an appreciation for those who do.

Obviously I think you should do what you feel is right in your own mind. All I'm saying is don't entirely rule out the idea of being with another woman. You don't know what you're missing - you do it once and I promise you'll never go back!
But, like I said, do what makes you happy.

[CollegeGirl]

Originally posted by Mossopp


Obviously I think you should do what you feel is right in your own mind. All I'm saying is don't entirely rule out the idea of being with another woman. You don't know what you're missing - you do it once and I promise you'll never go back!
But, like I said, do what makes you happy.


Oh, I've definitely given the idea thought. I sometimes catch myself thinking about her when I don't want to and have to immediately occupy myself with something else. She totally fascinates me.

[Mossopp]

Originally posted by CollegeGirl

Oh, I've definitely given the idea thought. I sometimes catch myself thinking about her when I don't want to and have to immediately occupy myself with something else. She totally fascinates me.

It's like you are punishing yourself for the way you feel. That's not a healthy thing to do.
You have to address your feelings and say "Ok, what exactly do I feel?", "Why do I feel this way?" and "What do I want to do about these feelings?"
Don't just block it out. I tried to block out my real feelings for years and it just left me lonely and insecure. Don't deal with it that way.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
Every1 i know is straight. Woohoo were better.

well, yay for you..:rolleyes:

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by Mossopp


I'm afraid I really have to disagree with you on this one. I'm a lesbian and I've gotten just as much, if not more, crap from narrow-minded people than any of my gay male friends. Maybe it's more acceptable to be a lesbian if you're one of those women where your homosexuality is not neccesarily apparent from your outward appearance. If you're like myself - slightly boyish, baggy clothes, short hair - then people really do pick up on that and they will give you hassle.
I live in a small crappy town though - I get abuse hurled at me just walking round the block. When I go into the city for a day, I can wander around for hours without anyone saying anything. I think a lot of it has to do with where you are and the type of idiots you have to live with.
Oh yes, I completely agree with you when you say that, but from what I've seen and heard its like guys love lesbians! I think its because how lesbians on TV are shown to be hot with big boobs and all guys think that all lesbians look like that, but then theyre totally distgusted on a man who digs guys. It makes no sense. Its like, on TV they show 2 girls in bikinis standing next to eachother holding eachother and like, the men go wild.

[White_Daisy]

Originally posted by •Shotz|NYC•

Oh yes, I completely agree with you when you say that, but from what I've seen and heard its like guys love lesbians! I think its because how lesbians on TV are shown to be hot with big boobs and all guys think that all lesbians look like that, but then theyre totally distgusted on a man who digs guys. It makes no sense. Its like, on TV they show 2 girls in bikinis standing next to eachother holding eachother and like, the men go wild.

At every single party I've been to, there's always been that group of guys who tries to get the girls to dance together and start touching each other just so that it turns them on. But god forbid we want to see two of them dancing together! They're idiots.

[pandora_spocks]

I just don't understand how guys can have these spice channel fantasies about two women getting it on. :rolleyes:

[White_Daisy]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I just don't understand how guys can have these spice channel fantasies about two women getting it on. :rolleyes:

I've been wondering that too. I was very tempted to ask my boyfriend, but I know he'd shy away from answering. It's not like he hasn't thought of that, he hangs out with the same guys, he'd just rather not tell me. I don't get why guys like it so much but when you ask them why, they can never answer.

[Mossopp]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I just don't understand how guys can have these spice channel fantasies about two women getting it on. :rolleyes:

I can understand it. Sometimes I feel like I'm a straight man trapped in a woman's body!
The reason I like other women is cos they are so soft and smooth and gentle and warm and they are not afraid to express their emotions. To me, there is nothing more beautiful than 2 women together.
Men are the complete opposite to women - they are gruff and hairy and awkward and rough. They just suck!
I think men secretly wish they could be more like women - more open and free with their emotions - and that's why they get so turned on by the thought of 2 women together. It's that idea of total love, emotion and gentleness - something that society has told the male of the species that he's not allowed to partake in - that really turns a guy on.
I dunno. I guess we need a straight man to share his views on the subject - but that's my theory!

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Mossopp


I can understand it. Sometimes I feel like I'm a straight man trapped in a woman's body!
The reason I like other women is cos they are so soft and smooth and gentle and warm and they are not afraid to express their emotions. To me, there is nothing more beautiful than 2 women together.
Men are the complete opposite to women - they are gruff and hairy and awkward and rough. They just suck!
I think men secretly wish they could be more like women - more open and free with their emotions - and that's why they get so turned on by the thought of 2 women together. It's that idea of total love, emotion and gentleness - something that society has told the male of the species that he's not allowed to partake in - that really turns a guy on.
I dunno. I guess we need a straight man to share his views on the subject - but that's my theory!

Yeah, but I'm talking about how they fantasie about the way the spice channel and all those stupid channels have two women together. My dad sleeps out in the living room and leaves the channel on so when morning comes and I get something to drink uh-oh there's porn on the tv. :lol: And no I dont watch it because I think porn is stupid. Can't people use their imaginations instead? :rolleyes: Men disgust me for even watching that crap. By the way, just so there's no confusion I hate my dad.

[Mossopp]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Yeah, but I'm talking about how they fantasie about the way the spice channel and all those stupid channels have two women together. My dad sleeps out in the living room and leaves the channel on so when morning comes and I get something to drink uh-oh there's porn on the tv. :lol: And no I dont watch it because I think porn is stupid. Can't people use their imaginations instead? :rolleyes: Men disgust me for even watching that crap. By the way, just so there's no confusion I hate my dad.

Yeah I know - men disgust me too - maybe that's why I'm gay!
And I also hate my father. Part of me wonders that, if I'd had a better father, maybe I wouldn't have such a big thing against men!
I dunno why people need porn to get off. I always just use my imagination. I think it's better that way. I have watched porn on occasion but I always feel really gross afterwards cos I just think "I've been sitting here watching this and at the same time, thousands of men accross the country have been watching the same thing and totally getting off on it". I feel a bit cheap after watching porn.

[nmnf920]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


well, yay for you..:rolleyes:
yay.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Mossopp


Yeah I know - men disgust me too - maybe that's why I'm gay!
And I also hate my father. Part of me wonders that, if I'd had a better father, maybe I wouldn't have such a big thing against men!
I dunno why people need porn to get off. I always just use my imagination. I think it's better that way. I have watched porn on occasion but I always feel really gross afterwards cos I just think "I've been sitting here watching this and at the same time, thousands of men accross the country have been watching the same thing and totally getting off on it". I feel a bit cheap after watching porn.

I've wondered that myself! Perhaps, thats why I am. Who knows though? My father was a bad example of what a husband should be. He used to hit my mom and still tries to even though he knows now she could kick his a$$. He never was really there for me and always yelled at me for the dumbest things. He even tried choking me once. And for pete's sake he tried to take me to the cops because one day I missed the bus for school. What a moron. I'm really starting to think thats why I hate men, but who cares. I know some are good, but it's just in my family it seems like they are all bad. I really can relate to Christina Aguilera's song 'I'm ok,' it's almost like she wrote it for me too. If you haven't heard it you should.
I don't watch porn, it's just not my thing. Fine for everyone else, but I just think you have no imagination if you do. No offense! ;)

[Mossopp]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I've wondered that myself! Perhaps, thats why I am. Who knows though? My father was a bad example of what a husband should be. He used to hit my mom and still tries to even though he knows now she could kick his a$$. He never was really there for me and always yelled at me for the dumbest things. He even tried choking me once. And for pete's sake he tried to take me to the cops because one day I missed the bus for school. What a moron. I'm really starting to think thats why I hate men, but who cares. I know some are good, but it's just in my family it seems like they are all bad. I really can relate to Christina Aguilera's song 'I'm ok,' it's almost like she wrote it for me too. If you haven't heard it you should.
I don't watch porn, it's just not my thing. Fine for everyone else, but I just think you have no imagination if you do. No offense! ;)

I can relate to your situation. My father is a drunk and he treats my mother - who has been nothing but supportive of him for over 30 years - like absolute $h!t!!
There are no positive male role-models in my life. Like I said - my father is a twat! I have 3 male cousins - 2 of whom regulary beat-up their wives and I think one of them cheats. One of my uncles left my aunt and ran off with her best friend. Another of my uncles beat up my aunt and treated her so badly that she tried to commit suicide on several occasions........
I know I'm making my family sound really bad here but it's the truth.
I don't know if it's the bad examples set by the males in my family that have made me this way. I don't know if it was the beautiful, kind, caring, girl I met when I was 15 than made me this way. I don't know if the way I feel right now was pre-determined from birth.
I try not to think about it too much. I know I'm gay and it's taken me a long time to be able to admit that. It's still too hard for me to think about why I feel this way.
I just prefer to think that this is my life, this is the way I am and it doesn't matter what made me like this or how I got here. This is me and that's what matters. I think analysing things too much will only make you crazy!!!!

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Mossopp


I can relate to your situation. My father is a drunk and he treats my mother - who has been nothing but supportive of him for over 30 years - like absolute $h!t!!
There are no positive male role-models in my life. Like I said - my father is a twat! I have 3 male cousins - 2 of whom regulary beat-up their wives and I think one of them cheats. One of my uncles left my aunt and ran off with her best friend. Another of my uncles beat up my aunt and treated her so badly that she tried to commit suicide on several occasions........
I know I'm making my family sound really bad here but it's the truth.
I don't know if it's the bad examples set by the males in my family that have made me this way. I don't know if it was the beautiful, kind, caring, girl I met when I was 15 than made me this way. I don't know if the way I feel right now was pre-determined from birth.
I try not to think about it too much. I know I'm gay and it's taken me a long time to be able to admit that. It's still too hard for me to think about why I feel this way.
I just prefer to think that this is my life, this is the way I am and it doesn't matter what made me like this or how I got here. This is me and that's what matters. I think analysing things too much will only make you crazy!!!!

My dad's not an alcoholic, but I think its the way he was rasied or something. His mom had 12 or 13 children and I think thats why his whole family is screwed up. I stay away from most of my family because I can't stand them. They always have to fight with each other and they all can't understand why I'm not dating guys. I just wanna say 'hello take a look around.' :lol:
I don't really care why I'm gay. I mean I've always felt different from everyone and never really was into the same things as the rest of the girls at my school were. I'm glad I am because it's what makes me, me. And I'd rather have girls anyday. ;)

[consentida]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks

I really can relate to Christina Aguilera's song 'I'm ok,' it's almost like she wrote it for me too. If you haven't heard it you should.


I can relate to that song too. The first time I heard it in its entirety I cried. My father never hit my mother infront of me but my brother and sister have told me about it. And my father has verbally abused my mother and i have no doubt in my mind that my father would probably hit my mother again if he had the chance...So anyway, that song hit me in a really weird way.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by consentida


I can relate to that song too. The first time I heard it in its entirety I cried. My father never hit my mother infront of me but my brother and sister have told me about it. And my father has verbally abused my mother and i have no doubt in my mind that my father would probably hit my mother again if he had the chance...So anyway, that song hit me in a really weird way.

I cried when I first heard it too and it sometimes still makes me. My dad is a walking verbal machine. He says he loves me in a real sarcastic way then 5 minutes later he yells at me. I really wish he would drop dead because my life would be so much better. I wouldn't have to listen to him screaming at my mom about bills and stuff. If he's so dis-satified with how she handles stuff like the bills why not divorce her or do the damn bills himself. I've asked that many times, and he still has never given me answer. Perhaps, it's because he never heard me. He only hears what he wants to. :rolleyes:

[consentida]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I cried when I first heard it too and it sometimes still makes me. My dad is a walking verbal machine. He says he loves me in a real sarcastic way then 5 minutes later he yells at me. I really wish he would drop dead because my life would be so much better. I wouldn't have to listen to him screaming at my mom about bills and stuff. If he's so dis-satified with how she handles stuff like the bills why not divorce her or do the damn bills himself. I've asked that many times, and he still has never given me answer. Perhaps, it's because he never heard me. He only hears what he wants to. :rolleyes:

Man, that sounds like my dad. He argues with my mom all the time about money and the manner in which she handles certain things. My parents are in the process of getting a divorce though.

[Unwanted Angel]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I cried when I first heard it too and it sometimes still makes me. My dad is a walking verbal machine. He says he loves me in a real sarcastic way then 5 minutes later he yells at me. I really wish he would drop dead because my life would be so much better. I wouldn't have to listen to him screaming at my mom about bills and stuff. If he's so dis-satified with how she handles stuff like the bills why not divorce her or do the damn bills himself. I've asked that many times, and he still has never given me answer. Perhaps, it's because he never heard me. He only hears what he wants to. :rolleyes:

:crying:
Like i said Holly if i had my own place or the money i would moveyou here in a heartbeat...You would never have to listen to his sh!!t again...And i mean that.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by consentida


Man, that sounds like my dad. He argues with my mom all the time about money and the manner in which she handles certain things. My parents are in the process of getting a divorce though.

I wish mine were. My mom told me that if she dies before her dad does then to leave his house to me because my dad won't give me anything after she's gone. No, I take that back I wish they weren't getting a divorce I wish my dad was dead. Yep, that's what I said. ;)

I should get out my ouija board and ask it when my dad is gonna croak so I can look forward to the future instead of being stuck in my past.

[consentida]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I wish mine were. My mom told me that if she dies before her dad does then to leave his house to me because my dad won't give me anything after she's gone. No, I take that back I wish they weren't getting a divorce I wish my dad was dead. Yep, that's what I said. ;)

I should get out my ouija board and ask it when my dad is gonna croak so I can look forward to the future instead of being stuck in my past.

you're bad...lol

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by consentida


you're bad...lol


i know..:lol: :D

[pandora_spocks]

Just curious to know if anyone on here have watched any movies related to the subject. I want some opinons on what you think of the movies before I go out and rent them.

[Unwanted Angel]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Just curious to know if anyone on here have watched any movies related to the subject. I want some opinons on what you think of the movies before I go out and rent them.

I watch Queer As Folk lol but thats pretty much it...

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18


I watch Queer As Folk lol but thats pretty much it...

Really? I watch 'Queer As Folk' too. I love Melanie and Lindsay! :D
There are a few movies I would like to see like 'But I'm a Cheerleader,' 'If These Walls Could Talk 2,' and 'Better Than Chocolate.' Anyone seen these? Are they any good?

[Unwanted Angel]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Really? I watch 'Queer As Folk' too. I love Melanie and Lindsay! :D
There are a few movies I would like to see like 'But I'm a Cheerleader,' 'If These Walls Could Talk 2,' and 'Better Than Chocolate.' Anyone seen these? Are they any good?

:faint: ohhhh Melanie is F*ckin hott....

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18


:faint: ohhhh Melanie is F*ckin hott....

:lol: I think they both are! :liplick:

[Unwanted Angel]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


:lol: I think they both are! :liplick:

Yeah but Melanie has got some nice Boobie :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18


Yeah but Melanie has got some nice Boobie :D

:lol:

[Mossopp]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Just curious to know if anyone on here have watched any movies related to the subject. I want some opinons on what you think of the movies before I go out and rent them.

But I'm A Cheerleader is an awesome film. It deals with a pretty heavy subject but it's done in a way that is both humourous and poignant. Some scenes are so funny that they had me crying with laughter!

If These Walls Could Talk 2 was ok. I dunno if you know but the movie is split into 3 parts, each set in a different decade. Personally I thought the '1970's' part was the best.

Kissing Jessica Stein is another good one to rent, although I thought the "OK, let's just be friends" ending was a bit of a let-down.

I haven't seen Better Than Chocolate but my friends all said it was really good.

Boys Don't Cry is an amazing film and it's based on a true story. The acting and script are just brilliant. It's really tragic though so don't expect a happy ending.

The main charatcers in Mulholland Drive are a lesbian couple although the movie isn't actually about lesbian issues. This is a David Lynch movie and, although I think it's one of the best films of the last 5 years, I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're a fan of the director.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Mossopp


But I'm A Cheerleader is an awesome film. It deals with a pretty heavy subject but it's done in a way that is both humourous and poignant. Some scenes are so funny that they had me crying with laughter!

If These Walls Could Talk 2 was ok. I dunno if you know but the movie is split into 3 parts, each set in a different decade. Personally I thought the '1970's' part was the best.

Kissing Jessica Stein is another good one to rent, although I thought the "OK, let's just be friends" ending was a bit of a let-down.

I haven't seen Better Than Chocolate but my friends all said it was really good.

Boys Don't Cry is an amazing film and it's based on a true story. The acting and script are just brilliant. It's really tragic though so don't expect a happy ending.

The main charatcers in Mulholland Drive are a lesbian couple although the movie isn't actually about lesbian issues. This is a David Lynch movie and, although I think it's one of the best films of the last 5 years, I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're a fan of the director.

Thank you! ;) :D

[Mossopp]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Thank you! ;) :D

Man, I can't believe I forgot to include Bound on my list! That is the seminal lesbian movie! Corky is one of the coolest women ever to grace a cinema screen!

Lemme know if and when you check out any of those films - I wanna get your opinions on them.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Mossopp


Man, I can't believe I forgot to include Bound on my list! That is the seminal lesbian movie! Corky is one of the coolest women ever to grace a cinema screen!

Lemme know if and when you check out any of those films - I wanna get your opinions on them.


Okay, thanks. I've never heard of that one. :)

[Crimson and Clover]

i was talking with my mom other day. i dont know what brought it up, i guess it was one of my gay friends, but she said she thought that being gay and lesbian was ok 'at least not as bas as those bisexauls' and that bisexuals just had something really messed up in there heads. so i guess i wont be telling her any time soon that i am bi.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Crimson_and_Clover
i was talking with my mom other day. i dont know what brought it up, i guess it was one of my gay friends, but she said she thought that being gay and lesbian was ok 'at least not as bas as those bisexauls' and that bisexuals just had something really messed up in there heads. so i guess i wont be telling her any time soon that i am bi.

Aww, that sucks. Maybe if you did tell her it would change her mind about what she thinks of bi's. I don't know really what to tell you though, not everyone is as lucky as I am with their mothers. Perhaps, if you sat her down told her that you are and how you feel about both sexes. She may not want to listen, but you have to make her. If you do, good luck. :wave:

[Unwanted Angel]

BUmp :D

I luv all of the Bi Gay and les people out there...You are no different then a straight person.
:bighug:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18
BUmp :D

I luv all of the Bi Gay and les people out there...You are no different then a straight person.
:bighug:


awww..hehe, big hug!

:bighug:

[ABlairican Pie]

I would have responded to this sooner, but I lost track of where it went. So I wanted to comment on Lucyfan's frustration with accepting himself as a gay Christian (which, in his opinion, is a mutual contradiction), as well as everyone else's comments as to why are men so into porn--I think Mossop said she didn't understand it...I would like to say that, the reason is that guys and girls (even gay ones, I would imagine) differ as to what they find sexually appealing: guys are more visual, more immediate, and girls are more intuitive, more spontaneous, if that makes any sense...Girls ask why guys could be into all that crummy porn...while they themselves enjoy romance novels. It's not some sort of weird conspiracy that men in the past 50 years have gotten into due to Hugh Hefner, et al, but that's how guys think (more or less).

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I just don't understand how guys can have these spice channel fantasies about two women getting it on. :rolleyes:
I don't either. I think it's gross and boring to watch. Same with two guys getting it on. It's just, eww.

[LucyFan]

nevermind . . . I will reply later on this.

[ABlairican Pie]

Why do guys have fantasies like that? I've read that it's part of the male fantasy that, when they watch porn vids with pseudo-"lesbian" activities, the guy will wish the girls will invite him in on the action... (Actually the girls doing it aren't real lesbians, maybe bi-curious, etc. I'm not sure about the status on that.)

I've had another theory on that as well, something I remember thinking about when I was about 15/16, around there, I read artsy photography books by a famous photographer with photos and a story of young lesbian lovers engaged in rapturous acts of love, which I found very touching and exciting... It made me wish for some time that I was a girl who was the object of another girl's affection, to be seen as beautiful and desirable...So I think that sense of identification may be part of it.

So is it all gross? If you're not in that kind of mood, then it is...
What's gross to us is groovy to another person.:cool: When you get down to it, our fantasies are never gross to US!!

[Mossopp]

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica

So is it all gross? If you're not in that kind of mood, then it is...
What's gross to us is groovy to another person.:cool: When you get down to it, our fantasies are never gross to US!!

You said it perfectly right there.
What's gross to one person may be really appealing to another. I believe that it's diversity that makes this world such an interesting place. If we were all the same and all liked the same things, how bloody boring would life be??!!

In response to LucyFan:
I don't want to see two men having sex either - I don't even wanna see a straight couple having sex - but I don't think that either of these acts is "gross". None of it does anything for me but if it floats another persons boat then who am I to complain?
It all depends on the individual and their perception, not just of others, but of themselves aswell.
I think 99.9% of the time, if a person has a problem with you and the way you live your life it's because they are insecure of themselves.

[*Marilyn Monroe*]

OK...this is the first time Ive replied to this thread, and I havent read all of it, so dont jump down my throat for asking this.

BUT...if you're bi, do you get to have a bf and a gf at the same time? Me and my friends were wondering, and no one knew, so I figured Id ask people who knew. Thanks!

[Faith]

Originally posted by *Marilyn Monroe*
OK...this is the first time Ive replied to this thread, and I havent read all of it, so dont jump down my throat for asking this.

BUT...if you're bi, do you get to have a bf and a gf at the same time? Me and my friends were wondering, and no one knew, so I figured Id ask people who knew. Thanks!


Well I guess it depends on the person. I wouldn't have a g/f and a b/f at the same time, to me it is still considered being unfaithful.

[pandora_spocks]

I'm not bi, but I'd consider it unfaithful unless both people your dating say its ok to be dating the other person. Does that make sense? lol.

Kinky! :D

[Czas na Zywiec]

Originally posted by Mossopp

I think 99.9% of the time, if a person has a problem with you and the way you live your life it's because they are insecure of themselves.

:thumbsup: Right on Mossopp!

[*Marilyn Monroe*]

Thanks for the answers guys. I'm really dumb about these sorts of things. :D

[Czas na Zywiec]

Originally posted by *Marilyn Monroe*
Thanks for the answers guys. I'm really dumb about these sorts of things. :D

Don't worry, we still love you. :D

:joke: No, youre not dumb. You're just in Iowa. Remember who else lives in that state? I say pack your bags and move to LA as soon as you can!

[Faith]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I'm not bi, but I'd consider it unfaithful unless both people your dating say its ok to be dating the other person. Does that make sense? lol.

Kinky! :D


Makes perfect sense.

:lol: at the kinky part..

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

this a great site for this... www.glbtq.com

Im not a lesbian or bisexual, but Im really intrigued (sp?) by homosexuality in general, ppl in history who really never really told that they were gay, or that there MIGHT be evidence that they were, but couldn't say because of the times they were in like Walt Whitman, Langston Hughes (who had a relationship with a homosexual sailor, which I didnt believe at first but then I asked myself, why not), Leonardo DaVinci (sp?), David (in the bible), Sappho, Emily Dickinson, the list goes on and on... etc... I dunno, I guess it's weird that Im not gay r bi but I like reading about their history or whatever?? I guess the same way I do about black ppl??

(btw does anyone know what Stonewall is, on the site they say stuff about pre-Stonewall, and post-Stonewall)

[*Marilyn Monroe*]

Originally posted by Original Prankster


Don't worry, we still love you. :D

:joke: No, youre not dumb. You're just in Iowa. Remember who else lives in that state? I say pack your bags and move to LA as soon as you can!
That's the plan! I'm going to start a countdown til 18. 2005 isnt THAT far away, right? :D

[ABlairican Pie]

Originally posted by BubbleLuvGrl026
this a great site for this... www.glbtq.com

Im not a lesbian or bisexual, but Im really intrigued (sp?) by homosexuality in general, ppl in history who really never really told that they were gay, or that there MIGHT be evidence that they were, but couldn't say because of the times they were in like Walt Whitman, Langston Hughes (who had a relationship with a homosexual sailor, which I didnt believe at first but then I asked myself, why not), Leonardo DaVinci (sp?), David (in the bible), Sappho, Emily Dickinson, the list goes on and on... etc... I dunno, I guess it's weird that Im not gay r bi but I like reading about their history or whatever?? I guess the same way I do about black ppl??

(btw does anyone know what Stonewall is, on the site they say stuff about pre-Stonewall, and post-Stonewall)


Stonewall was, as far as I can recall, a pub or gay establishment in New York City that was raided by police in 1969 for having homosexual activity and/or patrons. The gay patrons were so angered by being stigmatized for being gay that they started the Gay Movement at this point, demanding to be accepted as other legitimate members of society and not persecuted for having a lifestyle or differing sexual tastes than other people in society.

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica


Stonewall was, as far as I can recall, a pub or gay establishment in New York City that was raided by police in 1969 for having homosexual activity and/or patrons. The gay patrons were so angered by being stigmatized for being gay that they started the Gay Movement at this point, demanding to be accepted as other legitimate members of society and not persecuted for having a lifestyle or differing sexual tastes than other people in society. thank ya.

[ABlairican Pie]

Okay, I'm not sure if I spelled his name correctly, but I'm wondering if anyone knows about something I read on a conservative newsletter I had received that said he was, in fact,
HIV-positive (as if that were some sort of justification for his murder, according to the conservative press?).

[IownTheDivision69]

i think i'm A. lol. *shrugs* i dont lyk boys or girls. its frightening.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by IownTheDivision69
i think i'm A. lol. *shrugs* i dont lyk boys or girls. its frightening.

so you don't like boys or girls? i feel sorry for you..lol

[tormented_soul]

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica
Okay, I'm not sure if I spelled his name correctly, but I'm wondering if anyone knows about something I read on a conservative newsletter I had received that said he was, in fact,
HIV-positive (as if that were some sort of justification for his murder, according to the conservative press?).

matt shepard was, in fact, HIV-positive. i can't believe, however, that people would stoop so low as so say that it was justification for murder... that's just ridiculous. anyway, just answering your question.... and to all the people out there, i'm adding to the thread.. i'm a lesbian too :)

~jenn~

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Mossopp


But I'm A Cheerleader is an awesome film. It deals with a pretty heavy subject but it's done in a way that is both humourous and poignant. Some scenes are so funny that they had me crying with laughter!

If These Walls Could Talk 2 was ok. I dunno if you know but the movie is split into 3 parts, each set in a different decade. Personally I thought the '1970's' part was the best.

Kissing Jessica Stein is another good one to rent, although I thought the "OK, let's just be friends" ending was a bit of a let-down.

I haven't seen Better Than Chocolate but my friends all said it was really good.

Boys Don't Cry is an amazing film and it's based on a true story. The acting and script are just brilliant. It's really tragic though so don't expect a happy ending.

The main charatcers in Mulholland Drive are a lesbian couple although the movie isn't actually about lesbian issues. This is a David Lynch movie and, although I think it's one of the best films of the last 5 years, I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're a fan of the director.

Well, I finally got to see 'If These Walls Could Talk 2' I caught it on HBO around 4:30 in the morning. Missed the 60s part, but I saw the 70s part to the end of the movie. Michelle Williams is hot! :p I enjoyed the 70s part the best I also like the scenes with Ellen and Sharon. I wonder if they'll repeat it I wanna see the beginning!

[Faith]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Well, I finally got to see 'If These Walls Could Talk 2' I caught it on HBO around 4:30 in the morning. Missed the 60s part, but I saw the 70s part to the end of the movie. Michelle Williams is hot! :p I enjoyed the 70s part the best I also like the scenes with Ellen and Sharon. I wonder if they'll repeat it I wanna see the beginning!

Michelle WIlliams is very hot :) . I am pretty sure you will be able to see it again. They show it a lot on HBO. I have seen it about 10 times in the last year or so.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Faith


Michelle WIlliams is very hot :) . I am pretty sure you will be able to see it again. They show it a lot on HBO. I have seen it about 10 times in the last year or so.

:lol: Very, very, hot. :D

Anyway, that was the first time I caught it on HBO. Is it always played early in the morning? Maybe thats why I never see it on there. Do they play other movies like the ones Mossopp listed in her post?

[Brandon]

life sux so bad! i think i'm straight, then BOOM! no, not bus, Jesse McCartney. I am so confused. I think girls are so hot! but BOOM! i don't understand!!!!!!!

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon
life sux so bad! i think i'm straight, then BOOM! no, not bus, Jesse McCartney. I am so confused. I think girls are so hot! but BOOM! i don't understand!!!!!!!

You don't think Aaron Carter is hot do you? :lol:

[Brandon]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


You don't think Aaron Carter is hot do you? :lol:

haha....hell no

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon


haha....hell no


:lol: Okay, just checking.

Do you think you have a thing for Jesse? Maybe you like both (men & women that is)..which can be fun too. :D

[Brandon]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks



:lol: Okay, just checking.

Do you think you have a thing for Jesse? Maybe you like both (men & women that is)..which can be fun too. :D

yeah i do. him only... but all others are women such as Sarah Michelle Gellar (i wanna do her so frickin badly!!!!) and Britney Spears. and AVRIL!!!!!

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon


yeah i do. him only... but all others are women such as Sarah Michelle Gellar (i wanna do her so frickin badly!!!!) and Britney Spears. and AVRIL!!!!!

I wouldn't mind having Sarah, Britney, and Avril all in the same night or perhaps at the same time. Okay, moving on! :lol:

[Czas na Zywiec]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I wouldn't mind having Sarah, Britney, and Avril all in the same night or perhaps at the same time. Okay, moving on! :lol:

This board keeps getting more perverted everyday.

Keep it up.

;) Kidding.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Original Prankster


This board keeps getting more perverted everyday.

Keep it up.

;) Kidding.

I have such a dirty mind..:p :lol:

And I know I'm not the only one on here who would say something like that either! :D

Dirty? Christina? Oh what the heck, through Christina Aguilera into that list too! ;)

[Brandon]

i want my top 5 at the same time :grineyes:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon
i want my top 5 at the same time :grineyes:

That is gonna be one hot night! :D

[Czas na Zywiec]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I have such a dirty mind..:p :lol:

And I know I'm not the only one on here who would say something like that either! :D

Dirty? Christina? Oh what the heck, through Christina Aguilera into that list too! ;)

Yea, we're all a little bit perverted. It just takes courage to actually post something like that. Some people are so closed with their sexuality it's like trying to pry an oyster open with your bare hands.

[Brandon]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


That is gonna be one hot night! :D

with, my top 5, OF COURSE:mrt:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Original Prankster


Yea, we're all a little bit perverted. It just takes courage to actually post something like that. Some people are so closed with their sexuality it's like trying to pry an oyster open with you bare hands. :lol:

:lol:
I guess I have courage for posting that. :D
Nothing wrong with talking about your feelings as long as it doesn't get too nasty - this isn't that kind of board.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon


with, my top 5, OF COURSE:mrt:

I also wouldn't mind having Alyson Hannigan, Amber Benson, and Angelina Jolie dropping by..that's it party! :p

[Faith]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


:lol: Very, very, hot. :D

Anyway, that was the first time I caught it on HBO. Is it always played early in the morning? Maybe thats why I never see it on there. Do they play other movies like the ones Mossopp listed in her post?


yes, they do usually do play it early in the morning. Usually anywhere between 1:30 and 5:00. They have played some of them on there. " but I am a cheerleader gets played on there alot, and " Boys don't cry" was played quite a few times.

[Brandon]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I also wouldn't mind having Alyson Hannigan, Amber Benson, and Angelina Jolie dropping by..that's it party! :p

my top 5:

1.SARAH MICHELLE GELLAR!
2.Jesse McCartney
3.Avril Lavigne
4.Catherine Zeta-Jones
5.Britney Spears

Oh what a night that would be... :loveya: (no one even compares to Sarah!!)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Faith



yes, they do usually do play it early in the morning. Usually anywhere between 1:30 and 5:00. They have played some of them on there. " but I am a cheerleader gets played on there alot, and " Boys don't cry" was played quite a few times.

I just checked the guide for those things, ITWCT2 isn't gonna be played again this month and But I'm a Cheerleader is coming on a channel I don't have anymore. :( And Better Than Chocolate is coming on, but on Showtime #2 and I only have Showtime #1 so this sucks.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon


my top 5:

1.SARAH MICHELLE GELLAR!
2.Jesse McCartney
3.Avril Lavigne
4.Catherine Zeta-Jones
5.Britney Spears

Oh what a night that would be... :loveya: (no one even compares to Sarah!!)

Who is your all-time celebrity love? Like the celebrity you would think is your destiny love? Sarah?

We all know who I think mine is - Elizabeth. :eyes:
There aren't enough words in the dictionary to describe how much in love I am with her.

[Brandon]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Who is your all-time celebrity love? Like the celebrity you would think is your destiny love? Sarah?

We all know who I think mine is - Elizabeth. :eyes:
There aren't enough words in the dictionary to describe how much in love I am with her.

sarah!!!!!!!!! u have ur 'beautiful addiction' thing, well i have the perfect name for my sarah site (if i ever make 1). 'No One Compares'. IT'S THE PERFECT TITLE AND VERY CREATIVE.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon


sarah!!!!!!!!! u have ur 'beautiful addiction' thing, well i have the perfect name for my sarah site (if i ever make 1). 'No One Compares'. IT'S THE PERFECT TITLE AND VERY CREATIVE.

Beautiful Addiction is my personal site sweetie, but I'll admit I was thinking of Liz when I was trying to come up with a title. She is my beautiful addiction. In my eyes, no one could ever be as beautiful inside or out. :eyes: She truly holds the key to my little ol'heart. :blush:

[Brandon]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Beautiful Addiction is my personal site sweetie, but I'll admit I was thinking of Liz when I was trying to come up with a title. She is my beautiful addiction. In my eyes, no one could ever be as beautiful inside or out. :eyes: She truly holds the key to my little ol'heart. :blush:

:thumbsup:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon


:thumbsup:

:D

[pandora_spocks]

.

[Brandon]

whoops! my mistake, my new top 5 is:

1.Sarah Michelle Gellar
2.Jesse McCartney
3.Alicia Silverstone
4.Avril Lavigne
5.Rebecca Budig

[Faith]

My Top Five is:

1. James Marsters
2. Alyson Hannigan
3. Eliza Dushku
4. Trent Reznor
5. Rachel Leigh Cook

[pandora_spocks]

I don't really have a top 5, too many girls too little time..haha just kidding. ;)

Here we go:

1. Elizabeth Montgomery (who didn't see that one coming?)

---from here on subject to change---

2. Britney Spears
3. Christina Aguilera
4. Angelina Jolie
5. Sarah Michelle Gellar

[Brandon]

i'm glad i have someone to talk to that would never make fun of me about me... i don't think i'll ever tell ANYONE! thanx holly, for making this thread. it's help.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon
i'm glad i have someone to talk to that would never make fun of me about me... i don't think i'll ever tell ANYONE! thanx holly, for making this thread. it's help.

No problem. I like this thread at least it gives us a place to talk you know.

[Brandon]

well, i must say, i really know how to pick 'em.:smurf:

[Faith]

Yeah Holly thanks, because of this thread I finally came out to my brother a couple of weeks ago, and he is fine with it. Now its the rest of my family that I am worried about.:eek:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Faith
Yeah Holly thanks, because of this thread I finally came out to my brother a couple of weeks ago, and he is fine with it. Now its the rest of my family that I am worried about.:eek:

Wow, I made a difference in someone's life. :) Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. :D

Jay, I'm glad you got the courage to tell your brother, and I'm honored that this thread helped you. Good luck with the rest of your family too. When you do tell them let me know how it turns out.

[LucyFan]

Hi . . . I may be gay but not sure just yet. To be quite honest, I am afraid of being "gay".

Anyways . . . can I post the male celebrities that I think are hot in this thead?

[Brandon]

Originally posted by LucyFan
Hi . . . I may be gay but not sure just yet. To be quite honest, I am afraid of being "gay".

Anyways . . . can I post the male celebrities that I think are hot in this thead?

if it's jesse mccartney, as many times as u want! :happyface: jj. well duh, u can. we all have (although my list is mostly hot women)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by LucyFan
Hi . . . I may be gay but not sure just yet. To be quite honest, I am afraid of being "gay".

Anyways . . . can I post the male celebrities that I think are hot in this thead?

Sure, but forgive me for asking, I've been here quite sometime now and still don't know everyones name..so um what's your name? lol

[fr00ti]

I don't think I'm bi... Holly like you said before I think you converted me to lesbianism! :lol: :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon


if it's jesse mccartney, as many times as u want! :happyface: jj. well duh, u can. we all have (although my list is mostly hot women)

I have to agree with you Brandon you do have some good taste in women. lol. Alicia is very pretty in fact I originally wanted her to play Samantha in the Bewitched movie because I think she looks a tad bit like Liz. Especially, when she was in Clueless..or maybe I'm just seeing things. lol

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
I don't think I'm bi... Holly like you said before I think you converted me to lesbianism! :lol: :D

:D

Let's see I can make it rain and I can convert bi women into lesbians. This calls for a WOO HOO and a WOO WOO! :lol:

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


:D

Let's see I can make it rain and I can convert bi women into lesbians. This calls for a WOO HOO and a WOO WOO! :lol:

:lol: go you! WOO WOO! :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL


:lol: go you! WOO WOO! :D

Speaking of the power of conversion I might have turned some guys into bisexuals. :lol: What's wrong with me? I'm spreading gayness to everyone! WOO WOO!

[Brandon]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Speaking of the power of conversion I might have turned some guys into bisexuals. :lol: What's wrong with me? I'm spreading gayness to everyone! WOO WOO!

u didn't really make it rain...:crazy:

[Brandon]

question to all: have u had intimate fantasies, thoughts, dreams about and with ur top 5 (seperately or together). i have...many times...:wave: i bad!

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Speaking of the power of conversion I might have turned some guys into bisexuals. :lol: What's wrong with me? I'm spreading gayness to everyone! WOO WOO!

spread the gayness! WOO WOO! :lol:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Brandon


u didn't really make it rain...:crazy:

Trust me I have the power of rain. Two months before my graduation a friend made a bet with me about whether or not it I could make it rain on graduation day. I told her that she was on and right then I twitched my nose (yes, really!) when we made the bet and set it for graduation. And what do you know it rained, I mean it poured..luckily I was smart and skipped my graduation, but everyone else was stupid and was sitting out on the field soaking wet.

I'm an aquarius - I'm the water bearer and I'm also air.

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Trust me I have the power of rain. Two months before my graduation a friend made a bet with me about whether or not it I could make it rain on graduation day. I told her that she was on and right then I twitched my nose (yes, really!) when we made the bet and set it for graduation. And what do you know it rained, I mean it poured..luckily I was smart and skipped my graduation, but everyone else was stupid and was sitting out on the field soaking wet.

I'm an aquarius - I'm the water bearer and I'm also air.

Go Holly! :rock: :lol: :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL


Go Holly! :rock: :lol: :D

:D

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Sure, but forgive me for asking, I've been here quite sometime now and still don't know everyones name..so um what's your name? lol
I prefer my name to be kept unknown for various reasons. Just call or refer to me as "LucyFan" at this point in time. Thanks.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by LucyFan

I prefer my name to be kept unknown for various reasons. Just call or refer to my as "LucyFan" at this point in time. Thanks

Okay, are you a guy or a girl? I thought asking you what your name was would be a nice way of finding out 'cause I have no idea. I mean you don't have to be so secretive. :eek:

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Okay, are you a guy or a girl?
I'm a guy but I wish I was girl.

I thought asking you what your name was would be a nice way of finding out 'cause I have no idea. I mean you don't have to be so secretive. :eek:
I'm sorry for the inconvience. If you really want to know. . . PM me.

[fr00ti]

I told my friend Brittny that I'm a lesbian not too long ago, she was perfectly alright with it. :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by LucyFan

I'm sorry for the inconvience. If you really want to know. . . PM me.

No, it's okay I just like to know who I'm talking to that's all. I don't know everyone's names and it kind of breaks the ice.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
I told my friend Brittny that I'm a lesbian not too long ago, she was perfectly alright with it. :D

:clap: WOO WOO! :D

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


:clap: WOO WOO! :D

WOO WOO! :)

[LucyFan]

Pandora, I love your signature! The "Bewitched" graphic is cool! Where'd you get it?

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by LucyFan
Pandora, I love your signature! The "Bewitched" graphic is cool! Where'd you get it?

I make all of my Bewitched/Liz graphics.

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I make all of my Bewitched/Liz graphics.

And they are the purtiest graphics, may i add. :D

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I make all of my Bewitched/Liz graphics.
Wow, that's impressive! After seeing those graphics, it is obvious that you have talent! :)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL


And they are the purtiest graphics, may i add. :D

Aww, thank you. :)

Originally posted by LucyFan

Wow, that's impressive! After seeing those graphics, it is obvious that you have talent!

Thank you! I spend a lot of time on the computer lol it's my passion I guess. Feel free to check out my website too I think you would like my current layout because it has Liz on it.

[Mossopp]

First off, let me just say that this is a really great thread. I can see that the vast majority of people who have posted on it are happy and proud of their homosexuality and I'm pleased to see that. I don't wanna be a downer but I just wanted to talk about the flip-side of the coin.
I know first-hand that coming to terms with your sexuality brings with it a lot of anxiety and possibly even guilt and I just wanted to focus on that for a while.
I want to start by saying that I'm not ashamed of the way I am, nor would I change myself for anything in the world (I couldn't even imagine being any other way - I love the ladies too much! ;) :D ) but sometimes I can't help but wonder "what if...?"
You know? "What if...I was like all the other girls in my town?. "What if...I didn't feel this way?". "What if...I'd never met that girl when I was 16 - would I still be 'normal'??"
Like I said, I'm not ashamed of being gay. Even when I walk down the high street and some retarded morons shout "Uh-huh-huh - you f*cking queer!!" I still feel some sense of pride cos I know that I'm my own person and I'm not bound by the rules of our shallow society like those guys are. But I do still feel awkward about it sometimes and I do still feel almost guilty. Like, I hear my mother talking about how she'd like to be a grandmother (I'm an only child) and I feel sick because I know her dream will never come true and it's because of the way I turned out. My mother and I have never gotten on well but I never really wanted to hurt her. I know that if she ever found out about me it'd just destroy her.
My father is a whole 'nother story. He's a homophobic wanker. He'd no doubt string me up if he found out - I don't want to talk about him now.
So basically, first of all thanks for letting me vent. Secondly, I just wondered if anyone else wanted to talk about any of the negative feelings that they have gone through regarding all of this. One of my best friends is gay and she has absolutely no problem with it at all. She's never felt any guilt, she's never felt any shame, she's never felt angry or confused and it just blows my mind. I was torn up by all these feelings at some point in the last 5 years and I just can't believe that I'm the only one. If you wouldn't mind sharing then I'd be greatful to hear if any of you have felt/feel the same way.

On a related note. Tomorrow I am going to the movies with my friends Emma and Sarah. I have been friends with Emma since I was 4 years old but I have not told her that I'm gay. I've been putting it off for a long time but I'm planning on telling her tomorrow. I think she'll be OK with it but I'm still quite nervous so wish me luck. I just hope I don't wimp out this time like I did last time.

Thanks for lettin' me rant, guys. :)
Mossopp
x x x

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Mossopp
First off, let me just say that this is a really great thread. I can see that the vast majority of people who have posted on it are happy and proud of their homosexuality and I'm pleased to see that. I don't wanna be a downer but I just wanted to talk about the flip-side of the coin.
I know first-hand that coming to terms with your sexuality brings with it a lot of anxiety and possibly even guilt and I just wanted to focus on that for a while.
I want to start by saying that I'm not ashamed of the way I am, nor would I change myself for anything in the world (I couldn't even imagine being any other way - I love the ladies too much! ;) :D ) but sometimes I can't help but wonder "what if...?"
You know? "What if...I was like all the other girls in my town?. "What if...I didn't feel this way?". "What if...I'd never met that girl when I was 16 - would I still be 'normal'??"
Like I said, I'm not ashamed of being gay. Even when I walk down the high street and some retarded morons shout "Uh-huh-huh - you f*cking queer!!" I still feel some sense of pride cos I know that I'm my own person and I'm not bound by the rules of our shallow society like those guys are. But I do still feel awkward about it sometimes and I do still feel almost guilty. Like, I hear my mother talking about how she'd like to be a grandmother (I'm an only child) and I feel sick because I know her dream will never come true and it's because of the way I turned out. My mother and I have never gotten on well but I never really wanted to hurt her. I know that if she ever found out about me it'd just destroy her.
My father is a whole 'nother story. He's a homophobic wanker. He'd no doubt string me up if he found out - I don't want to talk about him now.
So basically, first of all thanks for letting me vent. Secondly, I just wondered if anyone else wanted to talk about any of the negative feelings that they have gone through regarding all of this. One of my best friends is gay and she has absolutely no problem with it at all. She's never felt any guilt, she's never felt any shame, she's never felt angry or confused and it just blows my mind. I was torn up by all these feelings at some point in the last 5 years and I just can't believe that I'm the only one. If you wouldn't mind sharing then I'd be greatful to hear if any of you have felt/feel the same way.

On a related note. Tomorrow I am going to the movies with my friends Emma and Sarah. I have been friends with Emma since I was 4 years old but I have not told her that I'm gay. I've been putting it off for a long time but I'm planning on telling her tomorrow. I think she'll be OK with it but I'm still quite nervous so wish me luck. I just hope I don't wimp out this time like I did last time.

Thanks for lettin' me rant, guys. :)
Mossopp
x x x

I do get those 'what if..' feelings and thoughts, but like you said I couldn't see myself any other way either. Although, I haven't experienced probably as much ignorance as you have because I'm not out to everyone. I've only come out to my brother, my mom, and my cousin. And of course, everyone on here knows and anyone who visits my website. But still like my friends from school don't know. Not many of them like homosexuals anyway and thats probably why I wouldn't tell them. I'm not ashamed of myself I just feel that some things are best left unsaid. My dad is probably like your dad. He doesn't like women, hates gays, racist, you name it, he's it. Sad, but true. I'm glad this thread helps a lot of people thats why I created it. Also for general talk too of course. Good luck with your friend I hope everything goes well for you.

[LucyFan]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I do get those 'what if..' feelings and thoughts, but like you said I couldn't see myself any other way either. Although, I haven't experienced probably as much ignorance as you have because I'm not out to everyone. I've only come out to my brother, my mom, and my cousin. And of course, everyone on here knows and anyone who visits my website. But still like my friends from school don't know. Not many of them like homosexuals anyway and thats probably why I wouldn't tell them. I'm not ashamed of myself I just feel that some things are best left unsaid. My dad is probably like your dad. He doesn't like women, hates gays, racist, you name it, he's it. Sad, but true. I'm glad this thread helps a lot of people thats why I created it. Also for general talk too of course. Good luck with your friend I hope everything goes well for you.

My thoughts and feelings are primarily based on my sexuality. I tend think about it most of time, if not all the time. I get extremely nervous and scared when I ask those "what if" questions. I feel like I will loose something if I declare myself gay as well as the other way around. I like guys more and I want to have a relationship with them but I am afraid to go up and ask them. I am not willing to ask the guys because I don't want to look some freak and get rejected and/or teased afterwards. Also, I don't want my family to find out how I really feel. I have kept my inner sexuality feelings to myself since I was a child. I talked to my mom about homosexuality and she says it's unnatural. I asked her many questions like "why is it a big deal", "why something like gender has two get between two people who really love and care for one another", ect?. After I was done, she paused a moment and looked at me in the eye. She replied, "do you think it's unnatural for two female dogs to be humping each other"? I responded "yes, it is unnatural and quite gross". Then she asked, "well . . . if you imagine two human females to be doing it . . . wouldn't you think that's unnatural too?". I thought a moment and said "Yes, it is unnatural." After that, we talked some more til about one in the morning. She brought up some very good points in the conversation and I felt close but I still had that same feeling as I do now about my sexuality. I can't imagine myself with a girl, but I can with a guy. It can be very confusing at times because I often wonder about things that are related to it. With that said, I feel like I am in some denial stage. I keep on going back and forth, back and forth between the two genders. I think about the pro's and con's of having a relationship with both genders as well as how it will affect me and my relationship with other people. Between my thoughts and feelings, I often get depressed and I feel as though my life is about to end. I feel very limited and restricted with my life in several of different ways. I often wish two things these days: Being born as a girl with intelligence, talent, and beauty or having my life end now. Both wishes I think would grant me peace within myself. As you see, I don't like the way my life is now and I hope sometime in the near future that it will change and get better.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by LucyFan


My thoughts and feelings are primarily based on my sexuality. I tend think about it most of time, if not all the time. I get extremely nervous and scared when I ask those "what if" questions. I feel like I will loose something if I declare myself gay as well as the other way around. I like guys more and I want to have a relationship with them but I am afraid to go up and ask them. I am not willing to ask the guys because I don't want to look some freak and get rejected and/or teased afterwards. Also, I don't want my family to find out how I really feel. I have kept my inner sexuality feelings to myself since I was a child. I talked to my mom about homosexuality and she says it's unnatural. I asked her many questions like "why is it a big deal", "why something like gender has two get between two people who really love and care for one another", ect?. After I was done, she paused a moment and looked at me in the eye. She replied, "do you think it's unnatural for two female dogs to be humping each other"? I responded "yes, it is unnatural and quite gross". Then she asked, "well . . . if you imagine two human females to be doing it . . . wouldn't you think that's unnatural too?". I thought a moment and said "Yes, it is unnatural." After that, we talked some more til about one in the morning. She brought up some very good points in the conversation and I felt close but I still had that same feeling as I do now about my sexuality. I can't imagine myself with a girl, but I can with a guy. It can be very confusing at times because I often wonder about things that are related to it. With that said, I feel like I am in some denial stage. I keep on going back and forth, back and forth between the two genders. I think about the pro's and con's of having a relationship with both genders as well as how it will affect me and my relationship with other people. Between my thoughts and feelings, I often get depressed and I feel as though my life is about to end. I feel very limited and restricted with my life in several of different ways. I often wish two things these days: Being born as a girl with intelligence, talent, and beauty or having my life end now. Both wishes I think would grant me peace within myself. As you see, I don't like the way my life is now and I hope sometime in the near future that it will change and get better.

I'm not trying to pass judgement upon your life because I don't know you that well and it's not really my place to judge you anyway, but how do you feel about both sexes? Maybe your confused because you could like both, and if you do then you could be bisexual. Either way, it takes a lot of time to get your feelings in order. It didn't take me until the 11th grade to realize my true feelings. Although, I really wish I had realized them in 9th grade for other reasons. :D But if you think you might be bi then i've include a site below that might help you organize your thoughts on it. And I hope it helps anyone else who may be questioning their feelings about both sexes.
I don't know what to tell you about whether its wrong or not. I've stated my case in the thread you posted on 'questions about homosexuality.' I guess it's up to you whether it's right or wrong in your mind. But like Mossopp stated about religion, don't let religion block your views on homosexuality. No matter how religious you are, otherwise you'll end up driving yourself crazy. If you're gay or bi your just gonna have to accept it within yourself and not let anyone else judge you because in the end the only person that truly matters when it comes to judging yourself is you.

http://www.bayarea.net/~stef/Poly/Labriola/bisexual.html

[Unwanted Angel]

I'm thinking about becoming a lesbian..I'm fed up with guys and their crap. My boyfriend broke up with me last month because he decided he wanted to screw other girls...Every guy i have dated has either cheated on me or has broke up with me. Guys suck!!!!
Girls rule!!! :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18
I'm thinking about becoming a lesbian..I'm fed up with guys and their crap. My boyfriend broke up with me last month because he decided he wanted to screw other girls...Every guy i have dated has either cheated on me or has broke up with me. Guys suck!!!!
Girls rule!!! :D

Is it possible to switch from bi to lesbian or lesbian to bi? I'm not interested in guys, but one guy I know is so special to me. I'm gonna go look it up on that site I posted earlier..:lol:

[Faith]

Good Luck Mossopp!!!!!!!!

[Unwanted Angel]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Is it possible to switch from bi to lesbian or lesbian to bi? I'm not interested in guys, but one guy I know is so special to me. I'm gonna go look it up on that site I posted earlier..:lol:

Yes it is possible..I've always been more attracted to girls then i have guys enyway..

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18


Yes it is possible..I've always been more attracted to girls then i have guys enyway..

I honestly, don't think it's possible. Either you are or you're not is how I see it, but what do I know.

I'm just torn..so torn. :(

[Unwanted Angel]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


I honestly, don't think it's possible. Either you are or you're not is how I see it, but what do I know.

I'm just torn..so torn. :(

I don't know how it works...all i know is i am never dating again...
Screw both sexes...I have been hurt to many times.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18


I don't know how it works...all i know is i am never dating again...
Screw both sexes...I have been hurt to many times.

Awww...I have problems I keep going back to the same person, but I can't help it.

[Kristina]

I'm bi-sexual, well more lesbian if anything. Most guys are just not loyal and are dishonest in relationships, every guy I've been with has been an *******. If I ever told my family I was bi-sexual they'd call me evil and laugh at me, seriously. My mom knows but if my dad and brother knew omg, my brother would be such a jerk about it. I guess I sort of pretend I'm into guys to make me seem straight, I don't know... not really pretend but I just don't give out any hints that I like girls.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Avril Lavigne
I'm bi-sexual, well more lesbian if anything. Most guys are just not loyal and are dishonest in relationships, every guy I've been with has been an *******. If I ever told my family I was bi-sexual they'd call me evil and laugh at me, seriously. My mom knows but if my dad and brother knew omg, my brother would be such a jerk about it. I guess I sort of pretend I'm into guys to make me seem straight, I don't know... not really pretend but I just don't give out any hints that I like girls.

That sucks. My brother was the first one to know that I'm into girls. Well, he always wanted a little brother, hehe. Okay, so it's not really the same thing, but still. When my parents are gone we actually have serious conversations, instead of fighting like we do when their here. He doesn't seem to care and neither does my mom although my dad is just plain stupid. I've said it to him like a million times and he still hasn't gotten the point. :rolleyes: I don't care what he thinks anyway - he's an idiot plain and simple. But just so you know I'd never laugh at you. You're a really nice girl who like Avril, hehe! So in my book you totally :rock:

[Kristina]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks


That sucks. My brother was the first one to know that I'm into girls. Well, he always wanted a little brother, hehe. Okay, so it's not really the same thing, but still. When my parents are gone we actually have serious conversations, instead of fighting like we do when their here. He doesn't seem to care and neither does my mom although my dad is just plain stupid. I've said it to him like a million times and he still hasn't gotten the point. :rolleyes: I don't care what he thinks anyway - he's an idiot plain and simple. But just so you know I'd never laugh at you. You're a really nice girl who like Avril, hehe! So in my book you totally :rock:

Aww thanks Holly, you rock too! :D

[Unwanted Angel]

Originally posted by Avril Lavigne
I'm bi-sexual, well more lesbian if anything. Most guys are just not loyal and are dishonest in relationships, every guy I've been with has been an *******. If I ever told my family I was bi-sexual they'd call me evil and laugh at me, seriously. My mom knows but if my dad and brother knew omg, my brother would be such a jerk about it. I guess I sort of pretend I'm into guys to make me seem straight, I don't know... not really pretend but I just don't give out any hints that I like girls.

I know what you mean...I told my mom last month i was bi and since then she has barley said a word to me..But i don't care, Screw her. Its my life.

[Unwanted Angel]

Oh and the only one who understands my bi-sexuality is my sister because she is also bi-sexual so at least i have one person to confide in...

Holly Kristina you both :rock: in my book ;)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by Avril Lavigne


Aww thanks Holly, you rock too! :D


Awww, hehe thanks Kristina! :blush:


Originally posted by T.a.T.u Gurl18

Holly Kristina you both :rock: in my book ;)

I rock again! I'm feeling the love. :D You rock too, Dorothy!

[pandora_spocks]

I'm bored so I thought I'd bump my dead thread.

*bump*

[ABlairican Pie]

I'm glad you bumped it up, because there was a weird thing that happened at church last Sunday, some kid in my friends' Junior High Sunday School class was talking about some kid at his school was "G and A and...another letter..." It took me a second and I realized--HE COULD NOT BRING HIMSELF TO SAY THE WORD GAY!!!!!:eek: Everyone at my church are a bunch of homophobes anyway...:rolleyes: Like it was a "bad word"...I know, people at my church need to do some serious growing up.

[Little Toxic Pixie]

Originally posted by Captain ABlairica
Everyone at my church are a bunch of homophobes anyway...:rolleyes: Like it was a "bad word"...I know, people at my church need to do some serious growing up.

i totally agree. i'm 15 and alot of my friends are gay/bi. and if christians are supposed to love and accept everyone, why are they so homophobic???? i mean really, gay and bi people are just PEOPLE!!! i mean c'mon :rolleyes:

[Unwanted Angel]

Yay! I love this thread. I'm a girl, I'm bisexual and i'm proud of my sexuallity. I love girls as well as some guys, But i love Joyce DeWitt the most! ;) :D

[Little Toxic Pixie]

ah nice to meet you! i might be bi...i really dont know i've been kind of confused lately...

[fr00ti]

*bump* :D

[pandora_spocks]

:woohoo: :banana:

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
I dont go to any special sites I just drool over my women. ;) :D

:lol:

I was a dork. Still am. ;)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
:lol:

I was a dork. Still am. ;)

I should change my screen name to 'Holly is a dork'. I'm adorkable. ;)

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I should change my screen name to 'Holly is a dork'. I'm adorkable. ;)


:lol: Dorks rule! :rock:

[*Liz Bewitched Me*]

I'm a girl. I'm 23 and i'm a lesbian. i have been a les, since i was 11 years old. There now everyone knows my sexuality. :)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
:lol: Dorks rule! :rock:

Yes, they do! I'm a dork and proud, haha. :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by *Liz Bewitched Me*
I'm a girl. I'm 23 and i'm a lesbian. i have been a les, since i was 11 years old. There now everyone knows my sexuality. :)

And I'm proud of you too! Lesbians rule! :D

[*Liz Bewitched Me*]

I'm sort of a dork. And proud to be one. :)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by *Liz Bewitched Me*
I'm sort of a dork. And proud to be one. :)

Like I said before, dorks rule! :D ;)

[Kay Scarpetta]

I'm stuck on a fence pole here.... I don't know what I am. I'm frustrated.

[*Liz Bewitched Me*]

Hey Holly, Have you ever seen this picture of Liz? She looks so beautiful here. I liked her with Dark hair.

http://members.tripod.com/~VicMas/62fur.jpg

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by *Liz Bewitched Me*
Hey Holly, Have you ever seen this picture of Liz? She looks so beautiful here. I liked her with Dark hair.

http://members.tripod.com/~VicMas/62fur.jpg

Yep, and she looks absolutely stunning! :D

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
And I'm proud of you too! Lesbians rule! :D Shes also a Liz fan!!;) :lol:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
Shes also a Liz fan!!;) :lol:

:lol: Yep, we both love Liz. How wild is that? ;) :D

[disturbed child]

This thread caught my attention right away. I got drawn into it. :D

Hi everyone! :wave: I'm a bisexual female.

Is it okay if I join this discussion?

[pandora_spocks]

Sure! Everyone is welcome. :)

I just gotta tell you that I love your screen name and your Alyson piccies and that location is just hilarious. Sounds like something that came out of an Anne Rice novel, hehe. :D

[disturbed child]

Thank you pandora_spocks!

My location is actually something that Vampire Willow said in an episode of Buffy. She was a very naughty vamp that came from another dimension and she wore leather... oooh yeah! Imagine Willow as a kinky vampire. It was very nice. :D

I love your avie and your sig. Elizabeth is awesome, and you have the lyrics to Under Your Spell in there... Tara's song to Willow from Once More With Feeling. So you're definitely cool in my book. :)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by disturbed child
Thank you pandora_spocks!

My location is actually something that Vampire Willow said in an episode of Buffy. She was a very naughty vamp that came from another dimension and she wore leather... oooh yeah! Imagine Willow as a kinky vampire. It was very nice. :D

I love your avie and your sig. Elizabeth is awesome, and you have the lyrics to Under Your Spell in there... Tara's song to Willow from Once More With Feeling. So you're definitely cool in my book. :)

Yep, I love Willow and Tara they are my favorite lesbian couple, haha! Hmm, I wonder why that quote didn't click with me. Must've slipped my mind. Oh yes, definetely, Vampire Willow was extremely hot! :D

Yep, I love Elizabeth, but isn't that obvious? ;) I used 'Under Your Spell' because I don't know I love the lyrics and I like to think I'm under Liz's spell. I also happened to love BtVS and the episode Once More With Feeling I can't get those songs out of my head for days! :lol: I think you're cool too. :D

[disturbed child]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Yep, I love Willow and Tara they are my favorite lesbian couple, haha! Hmm, I wonder why that quote didn't click with me. Must've slipped my mind. Oh yes, definetely, Vampire Willow was extremely hot! :D

Yep, I love Elizabeth, but isn't that obvious? ;) I used 'Under Your Spell' because I don't know I love the lyrics and I like to think I'm under Liz's spell. I also happened to love BtVS and the episode Once More With Feeling I can't get those songs out of my head for days! :lol: I think you're cool too. :D
You're a Buffy fan? Okay, you've officially won a spot in my hall of rockin' people. :)

I like that you used Under Your Spell. It's perfect because Elizabeth played Samantha and Samantha was a witch. Witch, spell. There you go! It fits perfectly.

I love OMWF too and I know the words to every song. I even have the soundtrack and I'm constantly listening to it and I find myself singing the songs throughout the day. You know what part I love from that episode? When Tara sings Under Your Spell and after she does her little dance she and Willow do that spin into their bedroom. That was so cute. They are one of my favorite lesbian couples. My other is Jesse and Katie from Once and Again. :)

Willow and Tara forever. I miss Tara so much. :crying:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by disturbed child
You're a Buffy fan? Okay, you've officially won a spot in my hall of rockin' people. :)

I like that you used Under Your Spell. It's perfect because Elizabeth played Samantha and Samantha was a witch. Witch, spell. There you go! It fits perfectly.

I love OMWF too and I know the words to every song. I even have the soundtrack and I'm constantly listening to it and I find myself singing the songs throughout the day. You know what part I love from that episode? When Tara sings Under Your Spell and after she does her little dance she and Willow do that spin into their bedroom. That was so cute. They are one of my favorite lesbian couples. My other is Jesse and Katie from Once and Again. :)

Willow and Tara forever. I miss Tara so much. :crying:

:lol: Yep, I'm a Buffy fan. I don't usually post on the board though I don't know why. Yay, I rock, haha! :D

Yeah, thats another reason I think the song fits. :) I love when Tara's sings the song. Oh and before she sings it and the guy looks at her and Willow tells her that the guy was checking her out and she's like 'I want the boys' and Willow replies with 'Do I have to fight to keep you?' I thought that was so sweet. :) Under Your Spell, is actually my favorite song from the whole episode, but I do like the other songs too. My other favorite lesbian couple is Lindsay and Melanie from Queer As Folk.

[disturbed child]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
:lol: Yep, I'm a Buffy fan. I don't usually post on the board though I don't know why. Yay, I rock, haha! :D

Yeah, thats another reason I think the song fits. :) I love when Tara's sings the song. Oh and before she sings it and the guy looks at her and Willow tells her that the guy was checking her out and she's like 'I want the boys' and Willow replies with 'Do I have to fight to keep you?' I thought that was so sweet. :) Under Your Spell, is actually my favorite song from the whole episode, but I do like the other songs too. My other favorite lesbian couple is Lindsay and Melanie from Queer As Folk.
"Oh my god, I'm cured... I want the boys!"

Under Your Spell, Rest in Peace, and Walk Through the Fire are my fave songs. I love Spike so much. I am a mega Spike/Buffy shipper and I want them to hook up so badly. That kiss at the end... yaaaaaaay!

Oh my goddess, when Tara finds out that Willow did the forget spell on her. I nearly cried. It was so sad. Damn you Willow! And then in Tabula Rasa. "I didn't mean to -" "To what? Violate my mind like that?" :( I was so angry with Willow, but hey, she was addicted to the magicks... she had a serious problem. I was upset with her yet I felt sorry for her at the same time, you know? She really hurt Tara.

I never watched Queer as Folk. I don't have that channel.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by disturbed child
"Oh my god, I'm cured... I want the boys!"

Under Your Spell, Rest in Peace, and Walk Through the Fire are my fave songs. I love Spike so much. I am a mega Spike/Buffy shipper and I want them to hook up so badly. That kiss at the end... yaaaaaaay!

Oh my goddess, when Tara finds out that Willow did the forget spell on her. I nearly cried. It was so sad. Damn you Willow! And then in Tabula Rasa. "I didn't mean to -" "To what? Violate my mind like that?" :( I was so angry with Willow, but hey, she was addicted to the magicks... she had a serious problem. I was upset with her yet I felt sorry for her at the same time, you know? She really hurt Tara.

I never watched Queer as Folk. I don't have that channel.

Okay, so I was a little off on the line. I don't have Buffy completely memorized, yet. These things take time. ;) :lol:
Under Your Spell, Rest in Peace, Going Through the Motions, and Walk Through the Fire are my favorites. I don't have the cd yet, but I burned UYS and RIP onto a cd a long time ago because they were my first favorites. I know, when I first saw that episode I was so sad because Willow hurt Tara and I didn't want them to break up. I was like 'Noooo!'. I love the beginning of Seeing Red :grineyes:, but I didn't like the end. It was too sad. :(

Yeah, I love that new show called 'Dead Like Me' too because it has Ellen Muth who was in a lesbian movie on Lifetime called, 'The Truth About Jane.' Even though QAF is mostly about the guys I became addicted to it because I love the characters. I just couldn't stop watching it. You can download episodes off of Kazaa though if you wanna watch it sometime.

[disturbed child]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Okay, so I was a little off on the line. I don't have Buffy completely memorized, yet. These things take time. ;) :lol:
Under Your Spell, Rest in Peace, Going Through the Motions, and Walk Through the Fire are my favorites. I don't have the cd yet, but I burned UYS and RIP onto a cd a long time ago because they were my first favorites. I know, when I first saw that episode I was so sad because Willow hurt Tara and I didn't want them to break up. I was like 'Noooo!'. I love the beginning of Seeing Red :grineyes:, but I didn't like the end. It was too sad. :(

Yeah, I love that new show called 'Dead Like Me' too because it has Ellen Muth who was in a lesbian movie on Lifetime called, 'The Truth About Jane.' Even though QAF is mostly about the guys I became addicted to it because I love the characters. I just couldn't stop watching it. You can download episodes off of Kazaa though if you wanna watch it sometime.
The beginning of Seeing Red was great. But the end... I cried. I cried for hours. I was so happy when Willow killed Warren. Sweet revenge baby, yeah!

The Truth About Jane was alright. I like Ellen Muth. She's a great actress.

I don't have Kazaa. I have WINMX. Oh well, maybe I'll get to see QAF someday.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by disturbed child
The beginning of Seeing Red was great. But the end... I cried. I cried for hours. I was so happy when Willow killed Warren. Sweet revenge baby, yeah!

The Truth About Jane was alright. I like Ellen Muth. She's a great actress.

I don't have Kazaa. I have WINMX. Oh well, maybe I'll get to see QAF someday.

Yeah, the following episodes with Evil Willow was freaky! She looks so good in black though. :D

I like the Truth About Jane though I don't know why. I just do I guess. I've only seen her in that movie and in Dead Like Me. She looks good in Dead Like Me though.

You might be able to get those episodes off of WinMx if you wanted to. So what other stuff do you like?

[disturbed child]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Yeah, the following episodes with Evil Willow was freaky! She looks so good in black though. :D

I like the Truth About Jane though I don't know why. I just do I guess. I've only seen her in that movie and in Dead Like Me. She looks good in Dead Like Me though.

You might be able to get those episodes off of WinMx if you wanted to. So what other stuff do you like?
Evil Willow rocks. I have a picture of her on my wall. Along with lots and lots of other Buffy pics. :)

Was it just me or did The Truth About Jane seem too good to be true? Her parents were all unaccepting of her one minute, then the next they're going to a PFLAG meeting with her. It was unreal to me.

I'll look for the eps on WinMX.

Hmm... I like lots of stuff. I like The Division, Strong Medicine, Once and Again. And I love Space Ghost Coast to Coast! Such an awesome cartoon. Space Ghost is great. Umm, I'm into reading and writing and I collect candles. My favorite music is Sarah McLachlan, Garbage, Depeche Mode.

What about you?

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by disturbed child
Evil Willow rocks. I have a picture of her on my wall. Along with lots and lots of other Buffy pics. :)

Was it just me or did The Truth About Jane seem too good to be true? Her parents were all unaccepting of her one minute, then the next they're going to a PFLAG meeting with her. It was unreal to me.

I'll look for the eps on WinMX.

Hmm... I like lots of stuff. I like The Division, Strong Medicine, Once and Again. And I love Space Ghost Coast to Coast! Such an awesome cartoon. Space Ghost is great. Umm, I'm into reading and writing and I collect candles. My favorite music is Sarah McLachlan, Garbage, Depeche Mode.

What about you?

The only pics I have on my walls are of Elizabeth. Yeah, I know I'm obsessed. ;) I can't help myself.

Hmm..now that you mention it yeah that movie did seem a little unreal. Thank god, my mom didn't abandon me when I told her. My brother was the first to know. The funny thing is I think more about girls than he does. :lol: He's too interested in cars. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm into Any Day Now, Buffy, Caitlins Way, The Secret World of Alex Mack. I love those Nick shows well most of them. I've never heard of that cartoon. I like Nicktoons and Scooby Doo. I like Garbage their like my favorite band. Better Than Ezra, Dave Matthews Band, Jewel, Guns N' Roses, Avril Lavigne, Nirvana, Christina A., Britney S., No Doubt, Eminem--see I'll pretty much listen to anything.

[disturbed child]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
The only pics I have on my walls are of Elizabeth. Yeah, I know I'm obsessed. ;) I can't help myself.

Hmm..now that you mention it yeah that movie did seem a little unreal. Thank god, my mom didn't abandon me when I told her. My brother was the first to know. The funny thing is I think more about girls than he does. :lol: He's too interested in cars. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm into Any Day Now, Buffy, Caitlins Way, The Secret World of Alex Mack. I love those Nick shows well most of them. I've never heard of that cartoon. I like Nicktoons and Scooby Doo. I like Garbage their like my favorite band. Better Than Ezra, Dave Matthews Band, Jewel, Guns N' Roses, Avril Lavigne, Nirvana, Christina A., Britney S., No Doubt, Eminem--see I'll pretty much listen to anything.
Hey, it's okay to be obsessed.

That's so great that your parents didn't abandon you. It's kind of funny that you like girls more than your brother. Can you imagine sitting there with your brother watching a movie like, "Yeah, that girl is hot! Check her out." And your brother is like, "Yeah, she's damn sexy." And you 2 just sit there and check that girl out together. That would be funny.

Any Day Now is a damn good show. I used to love Nick shows back in the day, but not anymore. Better Than Ezra, Dave Matthews Band, Jewel and Nirvana rock.

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by disturbed child
Hey, it's okay to be obsessed.

That's so great that your parents didn't abandon you. It's kind of funny that you like girls more than your brother. Can you imagine sitting there with your brother watching a movie like, "Yeah, that girl is hot! Check her out." And your brother is like, "Yeah, she's damn sexy." And you 2 just sit there and check that girl out together. That would be funny.

Any Day Now is a damn good show. I used to love Nick shows back in the day, but not anymore. Better Than Ezra, Dave Matthews Band, Jewel and Nirvana rock.

Yeah, but i've said to my dad that I'm a lesbian like a hundred times and it still hasn't sunk in yet. Oh well, he's a bit slow. :lol:
Actually, when my parent's leave to go somewhere and it's me and my brother we sometimes bond and talk about girls. Like Anna Kornikova, my brother is into her. Or we talk about Dave Matthews Band or a movie like Chasing Amy or something. :lol:

Yeah, I love Any Day Now. That is my show other than Bewitched. I still love most nick shows, Caitlin's Way is my favorite though, and Clarissa too. Cool you like some of the same bands I do. :D

[pandora_spocks]

Use the force, Mads! :lol: ;)

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Use the force, Mads! :lol: ;)

:lol: Use the force within!

[fr00ti]

I think we need a slogan! ;)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
:lol: Use the force within!

:lol: We have the power now!

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
I think we need a slogan! ;)

I don't know, but I like this title, The Gay Squad. :lol: It reminds me of that scene in Keeping the Faith, but that was the God Squad. :lol:

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I don't know, but I like this title, The Gay Squad. :lol: It reminds me of that scene in Keeping the Faith, but that was the God Squad. :lol:

I like that title. The Gay squad!! :rock: :lol:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
I like that title. The Gay squad!! :rock: :lol:

:lol:

I should buy that shirt I told you about last night. Remember that one? ;) :lol:

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
:lol:

I should buy that shirt I told you about last night. Remember that one? ;) :lol:

:lol: Of course... how could I forget? ;) Buy it!

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
:lol: Of course... how could I forget? ;) Buy it!

That would make my dads eyes drop out of his head. OMG! That would be funny. :lol: I am so bad. ;)

It's only $17 I wonder if they have it at Hot Topic? Nah, even Hot Topic wouldn't have that shirt. :lol:

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
That would make my dads eyes drop out of his head. OMG! That would be funny. :lol: I am so bad. ;)

It's only $17 I wonder if they have it at Hot Topic? Nah, even Hot Topic wouldn't have that shirt. :lol:

:lol: Bad Holly. ;)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
:lol: Bad Holly. ;)

:D ;)

[pandora_spocks]

I wish azuregreen.com still sold my bumper sticker. I want that bumper sticker! I mean it makes a statement. :lol:

[fr00ti]

:banana: Is Mr. Naner gay? :lol:

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
I wish azuregreen.com still sold my bumper sticker. I want that bumper sticker! I mean it makes a statement. :lol:

Which one was that?

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
:banana: Is Mr. Naner gay? :lol:

:lol: I don't know, Brandon seems to think so. Mr. Naner is cool. :D

Dance, b*tch, dance! :banana:

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
Which one was that?

Dip me in chocolate and throw me to the lesbians.

Doesn't that make a statement? :lol:

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Dip me in chocolate and throw me to the lesbians.

Doesn't that make a statement? :lol:

:lol: Yeah! ;)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by MaRtInA_GuRL
:lol: Yeah! ;)

:D

They have one that replaces 'chocolate' with 'honey,' but I don't like honey. Chocolate is better! ;)

[fr00ti]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
:D

They have one that replaces 'chocolate' with 'honey,' but I don't like honey. Chocolate is better! ;)

Yes, Most definitely! ;)

[*Liz Bewitched Me*]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Dip me in chocolate and throw me to the lesbians.

Doesn't that make a statement? :lol:

:eek: They can dip you into chocolate and throw you to me Holly.
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:joke: :lol: I really like this Message Board. I'm glad i found it. :)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by *Liz Bewitched Me*
:eek: They can dip you into chocolate and throw you to me Holly.
:grineyes:


:joke: :lol: I really like this Message Board. I'm glad i found it. :)

Uh-oh! :lol: Wow, I'm certainly a hit with the ladies. ;)

[*Liz Bewitched Me*]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Uh-oh! :lol: Wow, I'm certainly a hit with the ladies. ;)

Hehe, yes you are. I knew when i first met you that you were a really nice person. :)

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by *Liz Bewitched Me*
Hehe, yes you are. I knew when i first met you that you were a really nice person. :)

That's what I thought when I first met you. :)

[*Liz Bewitched Me*]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
That's what I thought when I first met you. :)

Aww, shucks. :blush: :D

[pandora_spocks]

Originally posted by *Liz Bewitched Me*
Aww, shucks. :blush: :D

:D

:lol: I can't believe you said that up there, haha. I'm the one who should be :blush:. ;)

[*Liz Bewitched Me*]

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
:D

:lol: I can't believe you said that up there, haha. I'm the one who should be :blush:. ;)

:lol: ;)