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TVFactFan
03-02-2003, 11:51 PM
Here are the sitcoms i think were still good in the last couple of seasons

1.Sanford and Son
2.Three's Company
3.Married With Children

Here are the sitcoms that were horrible near the end

1.Jeffersons
2.All in The Family
3.Happy Days
4.Cosby Show
5.Welcome back Kotter
6.Laverne and Shirley

Janice
03-03-2003, 01:24 AM
Stayed good to the end:
* The Dick Van Dyke Show
* Barney Miller
* Mary Tyler Moore
* The Bob Newhart Show
* Family Ties
* Seinfeld
* Cheers...a close one though

Jumped the Shark:
* All In The Family
* The Jeffersons
* The Cosby Show
* Mad About You
* Ally McBeal

DarleneIllyria
03-03-2003, 02:20 AM
Okay, let me think. I will also explain my choices

Stayed good to the end
Sanford and Son- Yeah, I feel it did get a little bit weak towards the end, but it wasn't enough to make it jump the shark. If it had lasted for a couple more years, yeah, I'd prob. be putting it in the jump category.

My Favorite Martian- It lasted 3 seasons and I enjoyed each season. It didn't run long enough to jump.

Jumped the Shark

All in the Family- Mike and Gloria leaving and Stephanie coming in made it jump. I know I have a confusing manner of looking at AITF. I'm still not all that fond of the Stephanie season, but she's cool on Archie Bunker's Place.

Leave it to Beaver- Beaver's puberty killed it. I just can't sit and watch the last few years. The first 2-3 years will always remain the best in my mind.

The Andy Griffith Show- Departure of Don Knotts, Andy gets the male form of PMS, the color seasons all contributed to the death of this show. Don and Andy were the backbone of the show. It only works if you have both actors together. Don left and the whole thing fell apart.

Diff'rent Strokes- Maggie and Sam, need I say more?

Ally McBeal- The show suffered pretty badly towards the end, imo.

Batman- Yeah, it jumped too. If you look at the 3 seasons of Batman, it really looks like a skier going down a hill. The first season is right at the top of the hill. The storylines took a nosedive starting with season 2. By season 3, it was gone. The storylines just weren't as clever, the criminals they were thinking up weren't the best ones they used before. It jumped.

Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C- I'm afraid this one kind of jumped too. Jim Nabors has a great singing voice, but during the color years of Gomer, I kind of get the feeling that it was turning into a Jim Nabors variety show or something. It's hilarious that Gomer couldn't sing all that well during his years on TAGS and on Gomer he can sing like that? They just showed his singing off too much on the Gomer show.

It Jumped, but look, it jumped back

The Twilight Zone- Ah, one of my personal faves. Hey, I'm talking about the original. I want to clear that up. The first 3 seasons were fantastic. You just couldn't beat it. Then season 4 pops up. We're dealing with hour long shows now. It just doesn't work. I think season 4 is the weakest TZ season and it just didn't have all that many memorable episodes. They wised up during season 5 and made it go back to 30 minute episodes.

The Facts of Life- If I were at the actual jumptheshark.com website, I might have voted day 1 for FOL. I don't really like the first season all that much. It jumps there. Then season 2 comes along and they shrink the cast up and add Nancy McKeon. It def. improved. It jumps back, the shark doesn't rip it to pieces. If they hadn't shrunk the cast up and added Nancy, I would be adding it to my jumped category.

*As you can see, I mixed everything up. I've got dramas and sitcoms mixed together. My list is every show that I have watched and really liked. I'm not one of these people that gets all defensive about a show that took a nosedive. I like all my shows and I can admit that some of them did jump the shark. I tried to judge as honestly as possible. I would really like to come back later on and add 3 more shows to one of my categories. Once I see every episode of Star Trek: TOS, Buffy, and Angel, I'd like to come back and vote on them.

TVgen62
03-03-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by Janice
Stayed good to the end:
* The Dick Van Dyke Show
* Barney Miller
* Mary Tyler Moore
* The Bob Newhart Show

I'm with you on these! (All are on my list of faves.)
Originally posted by Janice

* Seinfeld

Hmm. I felt that Seinfeld had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel as of the next-to--last season. There were quite a few in the last season that I sat through without laughing. (And don't get me started on the last episode.)
Originally posted by Janice

Jumped the Shark:
* All In The Family

[Sigh] Also one of my faves but, sadly, yes it jumped... :talk: -- Everybody join in, now-> "when Mike and Gloria moved to California."

TVgen62
03-03-2003, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Jenny
Okay, let me think...
The Andy Griffith Show- Departure of Don Knotts, Andy gets the male form of PMS, the color seasons all contributed to the death of this show. Don and Andy were the backbone of the show. It only works if you have both actors together. Don left and the whole thing fell apart.


I agree. Don Knotts deserved eahc of his 5 Emmys for his work on TAGS.

Originally posted by Jenny

Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C- I'm afraid this one kind of jumped too...It's hilarious that Gomer couldn't sing all that well during his years on TAGS and on Gomer he can sing like that?

Gomer could definitely sing on The Andy Griffith Show. Remember the one where he almost replaced Barney in the church choir? Gomer then pretended to have laryngitis when he saw how disappointed Barney was about being replaced.

Originally posted by Jenny
It Jumped, but look, it jumped back

The Twilight Zone- Ah, one of my personal faves. Hey, I'm talking about the original. I want to clear that up. The first 3 seasons were fantastic. You just couldn't beat it. Then season 4 pops up. We're dealing with hour long shows now. It just doesn't work. I think season 4 is the weakest TZ season and it just didn't have all that many memorable episodes. They wised up during season 5 and made it go back to 30 minute episodes.


Didn't you find an anthology series, such as TZ, harder to rate than a series with a (basically) constant cast of characters? In this case, though, I guess you had a clear "signpost up ahead." :eek: Again, I agree that an hour was way too long for most of those episodes. It took me a while, but I've grown to really like "Miniature".

BTW, you can always check with me about Star Trek TOS.
:ufo:

*PinkLady*
03-03-2003, 03:20 PM
Good:
Taxi
ALF
I Love Lucy
Three's Company
Golden Girls
The Jeffersons

Bad:
Sanford and Son (too many stupid episodes)
Happy Days (repeatedly jumped the shark after the 1st couple of years)
Leave it to Beaver (when Beaver hit adolescence, he got retarded)

DarleneIllyria
03-03-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by TVgen62

Gomer could definitely sing on The Andy Griffith Show. Remember the one where he almost replaced Barney in the church choir? Gomer then pretended to have laryngitis when he saw how disappointed Barney was about being replaced.



BTW, you can always check with me about Star Trek TOS.
:ufo:

Aw geez, I completely forgot about the choir ep. Thanks for reminding me about it.

What do you think about Star Trek? I've heard a lot of complaints about season 3 being the point where it jumped. I've caught only a few season 3 eps, and that's basically it. Since Scifi airs it again now, I finally get the chance to see them all. Let me add *hopefully* to that part.

dawsongirl
03-03-2003, 05:45 PM
Good to the end-
Adam-12
The Monkees
I Dream of Jeannie
Hogan's Heroes

Shark Jumpers-
Route 66- Not the same w/o Buz
I Love Lucy- God, after Europe it just nosedived

TVFactFan
03-03-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by jimmiegirl48
Good:
Taxi
ALF
I Love Lucy
Three's Company
Golden Girls
The Jeffersons

Bad:
Sanford and Son (too many stupid episodes)
Happy Days (repeatedly jumped the shark after the 1st couple of years)
Leave it to Beaver (when Beaver hit adolescence, he got retarded)

Why do you feel the beaver changed when he hit adolescence? How was he different?

*PinkLady*
03-03-2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by SOLOMON
Why do you feel the beaver changed when he hit adolescence? How was he different?

He was saying the same things he said when he was a little kid, stuff like "Girls have cooties" or whatever, stuff that an adolescent kid wouldn't say. Plus, the way he phrased things still made him sound like a little kid. It just didn't work. They were trying to keep him cute and little when he really wasn't.

DarleneIllyria
03-03-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by jimmiegirl48


He was saying the same things he said when he was a little kid, stuff like "Girls have cooties" or whatever, stuff that an adolescent kid wouldn't say. Plus, the way he phrased things still made him sound like a little kid. It just didn't work. They were trying to keep him cute and little when he really wasn't.

Yeah, exactly. It just doesn't work to have a 13 or 14 year old trying to act 8 years old.

Oh yeah, I need to add something to my Beaver list. I've already mentioned Beaver's puberty being a jump. I would also like to mention the exit of Madge Blake and Rusty Stevens.

Sitcomwriter
03-03-2003, 11:05 PM
I'm in the minority of people who preferred the later "Ally Mcbeal" episodes to the earlier ones.

TVgen62
03-04-2003, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by SOLOMON

Why do you feel the beaver changed when he hit adolescence? How was he different?

Well there are these things called hormones and... :joke:

TVgen62
03-04-2003, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by Jenny

Aw geez, I completely forgot about the choir ep. Thanks for reminding me about it.
:guitar: "Santa Lucia, Santa Lucia..."

Originally posted by Jenny

What do you think about Star Trek? I've heard a lot of complaints about season 3 being the point where it jumped. I've caught only a few season 3 eps, and that's basically it.

I wasn't sure what, if anything, you might have heard and I didn't want to influence your opinion. Let's just say season 3 is...uh, inconsistent. BTW, there are numerous theories as to why things turned out the way they did in the last season. Feel free to PM me, since this is a wee bit "off (to the side of the) topic".

Penny Lane
03-04-2003, 10:09 AM
Bad at the end;
Roseanne was THE worst!
Welcome Back Kotter
Happy Days
LaVerne and Shirley


Good at the end;
Mama's Family
Newhart
Family Ties
Facts Of Life
Mary Tyler Moore
Bob Newhart Show

Penny Lane
03-04-2003, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Jenny


Yeah, exactly. It just doesn't work to have a 13 or 14 year old trying to act 8 years old.

Oh yeah, I need to add something to my Beaver list. I've already mentioned Beaver's puberty being a jump. I would also like to mention the exit of Madge Blake and Rusty Stevens.

I agree! I really missed Larry! He was such a cool kid!

Chocoholic
03-04-2003, 11:33 AM
Cheers and Taxi are the only two shows I watched that were good until the end. I prefer the Rebecca years of Cheers over the Diane years.

Shows that jumped the shark.

Wings- Still one of my favorites, but really should have ended with Joe and Helen's wedding.

NewsRadio- Died with Phil Hartman.

The Cosby Show- Once the kids hit puberty and Olivia and Pam came along, the show got boring.

The Simpsons- Still a favorite of mine, but has not been as good in recent seasons.

ER- Same as The Simpsons.

Everybody Loves Raymond- I'm really starting to lose interest. Everyone has become so mean-spirited and I don't find it very watchable anymore.

mstewart
03-06-2003, 02:10 AM
Good til the end:
The Dick Van Dyke Show - Carl Reiner and Dick Van Dyke had the sense to pull the plug before it went downhill and left the audience wanting more.

The Mary Tyler Moore Show - Even though the final season was not as good as the previous seasons but Mary bowed out just at the right time.

The Golden Girls - The last season was good and ended at the right time.

Family Ties - The final season of the show was much more enjoyable than seasons five and six. Too much Alex and with Meredith Baxter Birney speaking up about her part being diminish there was more of her during the final season.

Shows that was bad in their final (or last) season:
Three's Company - The misunderstanding gag got too repetious and tired.

All of Norman Lear shows that stays on more than five seasons. All of his shows wore their welcome out to a point that it does not become enjoyable to watch anymore. All In the Family was a good example of a show where the plug should have been pulled after Mike and Gloria left.

The Cosby Show - I won't state the obvious.

The Bob Newhart Show - Bob should had stuck to his guns and bailed out after the fifth season. The final season the shows was just plain bad and unbalanced.

The Brady Bunch - the show was a joke during its final season.

*PinkLady*
03-06-2003, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by WingsFan
Everybody Loves Raymond- I'm really starting to lose interest. Everyone has become so mean-spirited and I don't find it very watchable anymore.

I know what you mean. I loved it up until this season; that's when it really started to get stupid.

LucyCompanyPhan
03-06-2003, 02:06 PM
Good:
I Love Lucy-this show was still great as ever
Dick Van Dyke-i wouldn't of stopped this show
Mary Tyler Moore-same wit this one
I Dream of Jeannie-i thought it was just picking up again
Futerama-this is gonna be canceled at the end of this year, its a really great show, it just has a HORRIBLE time
Boy Meets World-it got better at the last 3 seasons

inbetween-
Threes Company- this had a couple great episodes near the end, but it also had a couple not so good episodes near the end. I think it had another season in it, but i doubt id see it go forth after that. I really wish they could've planned something better than what happened in the last 4 episodes

Facts of life- i liked this show alot, but it seemed like it was due, but i still would've liked to see it go on

Bad
cosby show-boring after a few season
all in the family-again, boring after a few seasons
seinfield- i never liked this show
Laverne and Shirley-the title was LAVERNE & SHIRLEY!
Happy Days-with new characters, it was over


Seinfield

AtlantaBravesFan29
03-06-2003, 05:26 PM
Good Till The End:
All In The Family
Emergency
Adam 12
Dragnet(60's Version: Jack Webb and Harry Morgan were great together)
I Love Lucy
Honeymooners
Dick Van Dyke Show
Three's Company
Happy Days

Bad at The End:
Roseanne: The Worst Show Ever Made(the first 3 years maybe watchable) But definitely the worst after that
Mork And Mindy--the last season was definitely thrown in the trash,the whole premise of Mork and Mindy was gone when they got married and Mork was pregnant with Jonathan Winters
puke:

AtlantaBravesFan29
03-06-2003, 06:08 PM
Another show that I forgot to mention that was bad at the end was CHiPS. Larry Wilcox leaving the show,and replacing him with the blond guy was sort of the icing on the cake so to speak,and the last season had some lame episodes as well. Erik Estrada and Larry Wilcox for the 5 seasons they were on were like Randy Mantooth and Kevin Tighe from Emergency,they were a team.

LucyFan
03-09-2003, 01:53 AM
Good Til the End:
*I Love Lucy. It was too bad that "I Love Lucy" ended when it did. It could have done another season or two with them out in the country.

*The Brady Bunch. This is another show that should have lasted longer.

*The Munsters. Too bad this show got cancelled after two seasons.

*The Jeffersons. The later years are far better than the earlier ones.





Good Til the End but changed some:
*The Lucy Show. It was a clever choice of Lucille Ball to end the series when it did. It's time was clearly up.

*Bewitched. The numerous actor changes that took place in the show was a bit too much and confusing. And recycling the same plots got tiring.

*The Wonder Years. Should have lasted another season or two.

*Mary Tyler Moore. The show got better as it progressed. The later years were far superior from the ones of earlier years.

*The Andy Griffith Show. Adding characters to the show got annoying. My least favorite was Howard Sprague. He just didn't cut it. The show went downhill when he joined the show.

*Happy Days. Same as TAGS.

*Laverne & Shirley. Cindy Williams should have never departed from the show because of her pregnancy. The cast and crew could have worked around the pregnancy and still be able to continue the show. Look at what happened when Lucille Ball got pregnant during "I Love Lucy".

*All in the Family. It was nice to see Mike and Gloria leave the show. The same old gag of Archie and Mike raising hell with each other got old fast as well as Gloria's crying and whining. The show got better when they left the show and added Stephanie.





Not as Good Til the End/Jumped the Shark:
*The Facts Of Life . Should have never got started in the first place.

*The Beverly Hillbillies. Lasted way too long. The same plots got old.

*Maude. This should be obvious.

TVFactFan
03-09-2003, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by LucyFan
Good Til the End:
*I Love Lucy. It was too bad that "I Love Lucy" ended when it did. It could have done another season or two with them out in the country.

*The Brady Bunch. This is another show that should have lasted longer.

*The Munsters. Too bad that it got cancelled.

*The Jeffersons. The later years are far better than the earlier ones.





Good Til the End but changed some:
*The Lucy Show. It was a clever choice of Lucille Ball to end the series when it did. It's time was clearly up.

*Bewitched. The many actor changes that took place in the show was a little bit too much and confusing. And recycling the same plots got tiring.

*The Wonder Years. Should have lasted another season or two.

*Mary Tyler Moore. The show got better as it aged. The later years were far superior from the ones of earlier years.

*The Andy Griffith Show. Adding characters to the show got annoying. My least favorite was Howard Sprague. He just didn't cut it. The show went downhill when he joined the show.

*Happy Days. Same as TAGS

*Laverne & Shirley. It was too bad to see Cindy Williams leave the show. The L&S Crew and Cast should have work AROUND her pregnancy at that time instead of having her leave the show.

*All in the Family. It was nice to see Mike and Gloria leave the show. The same old gag of Archie and Mike raising hell with each other got old fast as well as Gloria's crying and whining. The show got better when they left the show and added Stephanie.





Not as Good Til the End/Jumped the Shark:
*The Facts Of Life . Should have never got started in the first place.

*The Beverly Hillbillies. Lasted way too long. The same plots got old.

*Maude. This should be obvious.



Explain why yu think the Jeffersons were better in the later years than the earlier years.

LucyFan
03-09-2003, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by SOLOMON
Explain why yu think the Jeffersons were better in the later years than the earlier years.

First, it wasn't as funny in the beginning but gradually got funnier as it progressed. Second, the change of actors with the Lionel character was totally a bad choice. The actor who played the 2nd Lionel didn't play the character very well. He was quite annoying at times and just about ruined the show. Thank goodness, the first Lionel came back. Third, what really made the show funny was Marla Gibb's role as Florence Johnston. Her constant wide cracks and insults to George and all was funny and the chemistry between her and the rest of the characters went smoothly as ever. We see Florence more in the later years than the earlier ones. Fourth, It was nice to see show and characters grow. You can't see growth all that much in the earlier years as opposed to the later years.

mstewart
03-09-2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by LucyFan


First, it wasn't as funny in the beginning but gradually got funnier as it progressed. Second, the change of actors with the Lionel character was totally a bad choice. The actor who played the 2nd Lionel didn't play the character very well. He was quite annoying at times and just about ruined the show. Thank goodness, the first Lionel came back. Third, what really made the show funny was Marla Gibb's role as Florence Johnston. Her constant wide cracks and insults to George and all was funny and the chemistry between her and the rest of the characters went smoothly as ever. We see Florence more in the later years than the earlier ones. Fourth, It was nice to see show and characters grow. You can't see growth all that much in the earlier years as opposed to the later years.

The show in the last three seasons, especially the final one, was too painful to watch. The final season the show looked tired and played out. That was typical Norman Lear style of keeping a show on the air too long. The Jeffersons was at its best from the first season until the 79-80 season, especially when the original Lionel came back.

TVFactFan
03-09-2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by mstewart


The show in the last three seasons, especially the final one, was too painful to watch. The final season the show looked tired and played out. That was typical Norman Lear style of keeping a show on the air too long. The Jeffersons was at its best from the first season until the 79-80 season, especially when the original Lionel came back.


The Jeffersons was it's best from 75 to 75. I'm sorry but this show jumped after 75, The second Lionel was horrible. I don't want to record any episodes after 75.

DarleneIllyria
04-03-2003, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Jenny
Okay, let me think. I will also explain my choices

Stayed good to the end
Sanford and Son- Yeah, I feel it did get a little bit weak towards the end, but it wasn't enough to make it jump the shark. If it had lasted for a couple more years, yeah, I'd prob. be putting it in the jump category.

My Favorite Martian- It lasted 3 seasons and I enjoyed each season. It didn't run long enough to jump.

*As you can see, I mixed everything up. I've got dramas and sitcoms mixed together. My list is every show that I have watched and really liked. I'm not one of these people that gets all defensive about a show that took a nosedive. I like all my shows and I can admit that some of them did jump the shark. I tried to judge as honestly as possible. I would really like to come back later on and add 3 more shows to one of my categories. Once I see every episode of Star Trek: TOS, Buffy, and Angel, I'd like to come back and vote on them.

Well, I didn't forget about this post. That was a miracle all in itself. Okay, I still can't decide on Star Trek or Angel. I still haven't watched every ep. and it'll prob. be awhile before I do. Anyway, I can do Buffy. I've just finished watching season 6 and I have watched a lot of eps from 7 and I can finally cast my vote. I'm gonna judge this fairly and if it did jump, I'll say if it jumped. If it didn't, I honestly mean it.

My vote for Buffy is never jumped. I honestly and sincerely mean this. Don't get me wrong. I didn't like every single thing they did on the show, but the things I didn't like, didn't make it jump. To be honest, the two things I really didn't like about the show is the season 4 plotline. I hated that whole Initiative deal and I hated the Riley character. I did hate those two things, but it was still an awesome show. I could still watch the show and still like it, just as long as I subtracted the weak stuff.

Buffy had several characters leave during the show, but that still didn't screw it up. The characters that left were big, but they weren't the giants of the show. I consider the giants to be Buffy, Xander, Willow and Giles. Giles did leave for awhile, but he did make guest appearances, so I don't count that as leaving. If he left completely, he would've never came back. He does come back, so I don't count it as leaving. Anyway, if one of the giants left the show and never came back, I might consider voting when so and so left.

One more thing and I'll send this reply on its way. It's kind of shocking that I like this show. I guess I kind of judged it in my mind before watching it. Maybe that's why I had never watched it before. I thought Buffy would be this corny show similar to Dawson's Creek. One of my friends, Chris, on here told me about this show. It did sound interesting and I figured I might as well give the show a try. If I hated it, I could've simply told him that I didn't like the show and let it be that. The first ep that I watched was called 'Ted'. It had John Ritter in the ep. By the time I finished watching the Ted ep, I thought the show kicked ass. I started watching it and I got hooked. I owe Chris a big thank you for getting me hooked. I would've never watched it by myself. I would've went on thinking the show was corny if he hadn't told me about it. I guess to sum it up, don't rule out a show just by looks. This goes for any show. Watch a couple eps of any show that you haven't watched, but you still think it might be corny. You might like the show after all.

dawsongirl
04-03-2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by BravesFan712002
Good Till The End:
Emergency
Adam 12
Dragnet(60's Version: Jack Webb and Harry Morgan were great together)


:thumbsup: Love those shows.

Christopher
04-05-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by LucyFan
*The Facts Of Life . Should have never got started in the first place.

*Maude. This should be obvious.



I disagree, The Facts of Life was a great show for kids to watch. It had a purpose and I am glad that it started. You really need to watch it though before you put it down. jmo

Maude is funny, you really need to get your head out of Lucy and watch more entertaining shows.



IMO The Golden Girls was good right up to the end but the flashback episodes were really annoying. Roseannes' last season was great. It was funny and better, I don't know why most of you fans hate it.

The Brady Bunch was dorky in the last season, I am glad it was canceled.

I don't know about some Batman fans but I loved the last season. They brought in new villains and a new hero, I enjoyed it.

Buffy The Vampire Slayer is ending just in time. This season (7th) is not as good as the rest.

Superbatboy
04-05-2003, 02:21 PM
GOOD UNTIL THE END:

I Love Lucy
Mary Tyler Moore
Golden Girls
Dinosaurs

BAD AT THE END:

Roseanne
Friends
Family Matters

BLT
05-01-2003, 02:01 PM
Get Smart--I actually liked it when Max & 99 hooked up. The show was declining at the time & I feel it would of declined much worse than it did if they didn't hook up. The later seasons have some great episodes as "Moonlighting Becomes You", "Tequilla Mockingbird," "Hurray for Hollywood" & premises such as Simon the Likeable in "And Baby Makes Four." Even recycled plots such as KAOS smuccling messages in baby dolls & KAOS look-alikes were very enjoyable. Adding Bullwinkle writers such as CHris Hayward & Whitey/Turner were a great asset to the show & fit it like a glove. Plus Agent 99 really let her hair grow.

One of my minor quibbles is that the puzzle-piece thing was an interesting change initially, but it perhaps got old quick. I do love how episode tiltes were added in season 5--I kinda wish they did that prior to the move to CBS. Also, it would've been nice if Hymie made an appearance in the last season. Also, it would've been nice if they Don Adams's dental surgery didn't make him miss "Ice Station Sigfreid." Also, I like Larrabee but it seemd that his character was perhaps too similar (i.e: dimwitted) to Maxwell Smart.

Of course the later seasons don't compare with seasons 1-2, Buck Henry's departure can really be felt in season 3. I think perhaps The Chief became too chummy with the Smarts as the show progressed, but all in all I enjoyed the show right to the end (not counting Get Smart '95 of course).

TVgen62
05-17-2003, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by BLT
Get Smart--I actually liked it when Max & 99 hooked up. The show was declining at the time & I feel it would of declined much worse than it did if they didn't hook up. The later seasons have some great episodes as "Moonlighting Becomes You", "Tequilla Mockingbird," "Hurray for Hollywood" & premises such as Simon the Likeable in "And Baby Makes Four." Even recycled plots such as KAOS smuccling messages in baby dolls & KAOS look-alikes were very enjoyable. Adding Bullwinkle writers such as CHris Hayward & Whitey/Turner were a great asset to the show & fit it like a glove. Plus Agent 99 really let her hair grow.

One of my minor quibbles is that the puzzle-piece thing was an interesting change initially, but it perhaps got old quick. I do love how episode tiltes were added in season 5--I kinda wish they did that prior to the move to CBS. Also, it would've been nice if Hymie made an appearance in the last season. Also, it would've been nice if they Don Adams's dental surgery didn't make him miss "Ice Station Sigfreid." Also, I like Larrabee but it seemd that his character was perhaps too similar (i.e: dimwitted) to Maxwell Smart.

Of course the later seasons don't compare with seasons 1-2, Buck Henry's departure can really be felt in season 3. I think perhaps The Chief became too chummy with the Smarts as the show progressed, but all in all I enjoyed the show right to the end (not counting Get Smart '95 of course).

Great post, BLT! I also enjoyed every season of Get Smart, although I regret that the birth of their twins cut down on 99's activities. Wouldn't it have been great if, at that time in history, the Chief retired and named Agent 99 as his successor?

I have 1 question: Why are you named after a sandwich? :joke:

HereCometheNelsons
05-18-2003, 05:45 PM
GOOD:

Growing Pains
Step by Step
Monkees
Perfect Strangers
Full House
Sanford and Son
Silver Spoons
Leave it to Beaver


BAD:

Happy Days
Andy Griffith Show
Facts of Life

Czas na Zywiec
05-18-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by *Chris*




I disagree, The Facts of Life was a great show for kids to watch. It had a purpose and I am glad that it started. You really need to watch it though before you put it down. jmo

If it wasn't for 'Facts', that one girl, who wrote into the show, would have committed suicide.

TVFactFan
05-18-2003, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Original Prankster


If it wasn't for 'Facts', that one girl, who wrote into the show, would have committed suicide.


What girl?

Lolac
05-18-2003, 07:54 PM
I agree with most of the "good" lists, especially The Dick Van Dyke Show and The Mary Tyler Moore Show. They were great until the end.

No one has mentioned M*A*S*H. That show jumped the shark big time when Radar left the show. After that, it became too pc and the cast no longer spoke their lines, they shouted them. I will buy the season box sets until Radar leaves. Then I will no longer purchase them. Lolac


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Czas na Zywiec
05-19-2003, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by SOLOMON



What girl?

There was one episode in Season 2 that dealt with a girl commiting suicide while attending Eastland. It was a very powerful episode with a strong message. The story goes that there was this one girl who wrote into the show and said she was contemplating commiting suicide until she saw the episode. She then realized that suicide was not the answer, and wrote in to thank them for the episode, because it saved her life.

*PinkLady*
05-19-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Lolac
No one has mentioned M*A*S*H. That show jumped the shark big time when Radar left the show.

IMO, it jumped after the 3rd season.

Lolac
05-19-2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by *~PinkLady59~*


IMO, it jumped after the 3rd season.

There are those who would agree with you, I'm sure. The first 3 seasons were definitely the best ones. I've been watching the DVDs over the last few days and they are classic episodes! I didn't mind the change from Trapper to BJ or Frank to Charles or Henry Blake to Col. Potter. The personalities were different but they seemed to fit. Klinger was still bucking for a section 8 and Radar still ran the show. But when Radar left and Klinger became the company clerk, phew! It just didn't work any more. And all the yelling! I can't stand all the yelling in those seasons! I guess they thought if they said it loud enough it would be funny. It wasn't! I, for one, was glad when the show ended. It was way past it's prime.

Lolac


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Penny Lane
05-21-2003, 10:07 AM
Lolac [/i] [/B]


Lolac? From the planet Twilo?:D

Love that episode of The DVDS!;)

Lolac
05-21-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Penny Lane



Lolac? From the planet Twilo?:D

Love that episode of The DVDS!;)


That's me! I usually hang out on The Dick Van Dyke Show board! Lolac

Penny Lane
05-21-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Lolac



That's me! I usually hang out on The Dick Van Dyke Show board! Lolac

Ha Ha I love your screen name! Very imaginitive!:D

Lolac
05-21-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Penny Lane


Ha Ha I love your screen name! Very imaginitive!:D


I love your signature! Very funny and oh, so true! Lolac :lol:

Penny Lane
05-21-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Lolac



I love your signature! Very funny and oh, so true! Lolac :lol:

Thanks! Naomi Harper.......... Gotta love her!:lol: