Should We Attack Iraq?

[Jack1000]

Hi,

Please vote on my poll of this most difficult issue and comment on your reasoning of why or why not?

Jack

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

I dunno. Im torn. War is selfish and doesnt really get anyone anywhere.. but I also think we should be proud of who we are and stand up for ourselves. Ugh I dunno..

[Brad]

Yes, but we should do it right this time, unlike the piss-poor job we did in 1991. The results should be lasting, not a temporary setback for Saddam and his chronies.

However, if Iraq wants a change in government, it's up to them to decide, and not us.

[Jack1000]

A tough issue, but I voted yes. Saddam Hussain has violated the U.N resolution to stop producing weapons of mass destruction. More importantly, he represents an overwhelming threat to the safety, stablility, and security of America and the rest of the world. He has used chemical, biological, and has the capacity to use nuclear weapons on his own people. He is very dangerous and must be disarmed. The war on terrorism can not be won without disarrming the man who carries the killing machines.

The United States must work hard to stop the flood of illegall imigration in this country. Our boarders need better regulation. We don't even have enough room or health care for the immigrants who are here legitimatly. We must protect our language, and we must preserve our culture.

It bothers me that no justice has been done to anybody who engaged in the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. 3000 people are in an early grave and no one has been brought to justice. I believe in "eye for an eye" vigillante justice. Sure, a bunch of people got arrested and that John Walker guy and that one Arab guy Mussarori? But watch these guys get special treatment from high-proflie defense attorneys. Say anything against them and your called a racist, or "attacking the Muslum people" But we must understand that all races are good. However, there are bad people accross all races as well. What accountability are the terrorists and people like Saddam Hussain going to get if we don't take action to defend our nation and its people?

It is unfortunate that society has come to this, but sometimes racial profiling may be necessary to protect and preserve the security of all people. There are many wealthy elitist groups that want to destroy our civilization and bring down the principles of freedom and democracy by which our nation was founded. Keep in mind that while 98% of all Muslims are good people, all of the highjackers from 9/11 were Muslim extreamists who wanted to kill us. Shouldn't somebody take responsiblity for what has been done to our country, or do we wait for a repeat of 9/11?

Getting Saddam out of power sends a message to other nations who oppose United States actions that if you fuuck with our nation and our people, you will pay the price. It's bad enough that we never got rid of Bin Laden. Without strong military intervention and consequences for these dictators, what's to stop another attack on the United States? Send a strong military message! The future of this country depends on it!

Jack

[Georgia's on my Mind]

"War, War, War, I get so bored I could scream....Besides theres not going to be any war."

[Brian Damage]

Yes, but only if we have sufficient evidence that Saddam is producing weapons of mass destruction.

[Plata]

We shouldn't attack Iraq. It won't solve what happened on September 11th 2001. And, it won't change what happened on that day, either. What would be better would be if we kept having tighter security in airports. The reason I say we shouldn't attack Iraq is because when you think about it, it will be like killing innocent people just like in September 11th 2001. I don't know about you people, but I think that some people in Iraq are not too thrilled about this war thing either. It's each of the governments in the USA and Iraq that make this out to look like it's two countries against one another. Sure, some people in both countries may agree to a war, but that doesn't mean EVERYONE
believes war is the answer. Sometimes I think we would all be better off if there was no such thing as military and governments. All they seem to want to do is make war on each other, anyway. At this rate, there will never be any such thing as world peace. And, another thing that pisses me off is the USA seems to be able to spend money on war, but why can't they spend money on research to help cure diseases? Not just stem cell research, but also heart and stroke foundation, AIDS research, cancer research, and many many others.


I am 100% against war.

[Mossopp]

My answer to this question is an unequivocal 'NO'. War is not necessary right now.
I think Bush is just itching to start all-out chaos and isn't thinking rationally. I'm sorry if this offends any of you but your President is a total wanker and I'm rather embarrassed that our Prime Minister Tony Blair is acting like Bush's little lap-dog.
It scares me that someone like Bush has got his finger on the button! And you know what? If war were to break out I'd be dead in a a second cos I live less than 5 miles away from 2 - not just 1, but 2 - naval defence bases, one of which houses nuclear weapons. If war broke out, the area in which I live would be a prime target.
The bottom line is there's not enough evidence to prove that Saddam is producing these weapons. Untill the evidence is there noone should even be thinking about war.

[Ian]

We can't just bomb Iraq. Do you think that will solve any problems? No, it will only create new ones. You bomb one country, you get three more against you. It simply won't work, it's stupid.

We are so lucky to live in this country! Other countries are bombed and bombarded every day and we turn the other cheek. We have one day, ONE DAY, of destruction and we think it's the end of the world. We are a VERY selfish country!

[Fleet]

Originally posted by JOHN LENNON LIVES
We are a VERY selfish country!

You've got to be kidding. It's not selfish to keep the existence and sovereignty of this country.

[Fleet]

Originally posted by Plata
What would be better would be if we kept having tighter security in airports.


Don't forget having tighter security on the borders, too. If a couple of terrorists sneaked through the border, tight security at airports would not help in that situation. Didn't a few terrorists try to go through the border about 6 months ago? I seem to remember that.

[°Bubbly Blonde°]

We absolutely should NOT attack Iraq.....just feed the ppl there....how do we not have war? Not make any enemies :) :D!! Atleast not in global issues.....u cant help but have enemies personally tho

[Janice]

Originally posted by JOHN LENNON LIVES
We have one day, ONE DAY, of destruction and we think it's the end of the world. We are a VERY selfish country!
Are you referring to 9/11?

[Czas na Zywiec]

Originally posted by Mossopp
If war were to break out I'd be dead in a a second cos I live less than 5 miles away from 2 - not just 1, but 2 - naval defence bases, one of which houses nuclear weapons. If war broke out, the area in which I live would be a prime target.

I live just four hours west of one of the biggest miliary bases in the United States, so I know what you feel like. We'd be like a prime target to hit if they ever found out about it.

[Kitt]

NO!

This is a letter I wrote to a journalist:

Hello Caroline Arnold--
My daughter called on Friday night to ask if I had an idea for words she could use to write on her sign. She lives near San Francisco and was planning to attend the peace demonstration in San Francisco on Saturday. I told her I'd sleep on it and get back to her in the morning. Most everyday I read articles on certain websites. I read your article titled 'What Can We Do, In a Time of War'. Thank you for the fine article. Your final paragraph contained words that struck me as unique, and fitting for her sign. I called my daughter and quoted that paragraph to her so she would understand the context of the sentence I was suggesting she use. "Tune our kettledrums to human hopes." She loved it and did use those words. She added a picture of a person pounding on the drum. Strikes on the drum bounce off symbolically into these words: Justice/equality/Love/Compassion. Later, she told me that people commented on her sign and took pictures of it. She also was compelled to tell anyone who would listen that it was her dad's idea-- that's me! I hope you don't mind that we borrowed your eloquent words for a worthy cause.
Thank You,
Kittflynn

[AnaheimPMWitch]

I dont know I"m like Crystal I'm torn ON one hand I'm afraid that if we dont attack they'll attack us in a worse Way then 9/11 but on the other hand How is attacking another country solving anything

[Max Whittaker]

Saddam has got to go!
But I don't think it is wise to for us to do it. If we were to attack Iraq, we will open up a bigger can of worms than we have now! Every Terrorist on Earth will have the US on there hit list.

Bush is acting so arrogant it scares me!
It is dangerous to provoke the world.
I agree with Mossopp 110%.

[Three'sCompanyrules]

I'm about 50/50 on this issue. Something has to be done in Iraq and soon,but hopefuly it won't come down to war. Saddam won't just give up his rule over there,but yet somehow has to be removed. We as a country also have to keep a close eye on North Korea with there latest threats on the U.S. I will say one thing I'm glad that Bush is in charge of our country,but I hope he makes his decision very carefully.

[Plata]

Originally posted by Three'sCompanyrules
I will say one thing I'm glad that Bush is in charge of our country,but I hope he makes his decision very carefully.

Unfortunately, I don't think he will make his decision carefully. I wish he wasn't in charge of the USA. He's very pig-headed in his ways. Also, I want to bring up something I thought of a couple days ago, but forgot to post on the board. A double standard between the war and the abortion controversey. If Bush doesn't allow abortion to be done, but allows for there to be a war, what is he for? Abortion and war both kill people. Is he saying it's okay for all kinds of people to die in war, but it's not okay for babies to be aborted and die? It's death either way, so what's the difference?

[Kitt]

Originally posted by CaitlinMoore2002
I dont know I"m like Crystal I'm torn ON one hand I'm afraid that if we dont attack they'll attack us in a worse Way then 9/11 but on the other hand How is attacking another country solving anything What makes you think that Iraq will attack us? alqueida is responsible for what happened on Sep 11th, not Iraq.

[Kitt]

This is more infomation than most of you want to think about. But it will give you an idea about how superficially and simplistically you've been viewing the situation wiith Iraq.

Sean Gonsalves:

Critics of the peace movement ask, “what's the alternative to war in Iraq?” It must be a rhetorical question because I can think of six off the top of my head.

Allow the weapons inspectors to do their job, which includes sharing intelligence with Hans Blix, pointing out where the smoking guns are being hidden by Saddam. If, in fact, there are any.

Keep the weapons sanctions in place but immediately lift the economic embargo -- a 11-year-old failed policy that has only further entrenched Saddam while killing a half-million Iraqi children under the age of 5. In a country that, prior to the Gulf War, was a nation whose biggest pediatric problem was childhood obesity.

Pledge to rebuild the civilian infrastructure U.S. bombs destroyed in Iraq during the 1991 war, which is what has been fueling Iraq's incredible infant morality rate. Damaged and destroyed water-treatment facilities, plus the use of depleted uranium weapons, has led to a humanitarian crisis in which little children are dying of preventable water-borne diseases and related birth defects.

The Bush administration should sign on to the International Criminal Court and pursue an indictment of Saddam for crimes against humanity, which would gain the support of the international community for a multi-national coalition force to apprehend Saddam, if necessary.

Investigate potential punitive action against the U.S. corporations who sold and profited from the sale of nuclear, chemical and biological materials as well as missile technology to Iraq during the period when Saddam was committing the atrocities that made him infamous and is the historical "proof" upon which the Bush administration justifies its "preventive" war doctrine.

Fully and fairly implement UN Resolution 661, which calls not only for the disarmament of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction but stipulates that the Middle East be a nuclear weapons free zone. That means, of course, insisting that Israel rid itself of its nukes.
Apply international pressure on the Israeli government to dismantle all settlements in the West Bank and Gaza, establish a viable Palestinian state, and deploy an international peace-keeping force to separate the two sides.

And finally, ironically, we ought to keep in mind the thoughts of two esteemed statesmen. "Peace is not made with friends. Peace is made with enemies," according to the late Yitzhak Rabin.

Nelson Mandela adds: "If you want to make peace with your enemy, you have to work with your enemy. Then he becomes your partner."

Sean Gonsalves

[Kristina]

Ugh there will never be world peace... :(

[Max Whittaker]

Originally posted by kittflynn
This is more infomation than most of you want to think about. But it will give you an idea about how superficially and simplistically you've been viewing the situation wiith Iraq.

Sean Gonsalves:

Critics of the peace movement ask, “what's the alternative to war in Iraq?” It must be a rhetorical question because I can think of six off the top of my head.

Allow the weapons inspectors to do their job, which includes sharing intelligence with Hans Blix, pointing out where the smoking guns are being hidden by Saddam. If, in fact, there are any.

Keep the weapons sanctions in place but immediately lift the economic embargo -- a 11-year-old failed policy that has only further entrenched Saddam while killing a half-million Iraqi children under the age of 5. In a country that, prior to the Gulf War, was a nation whose biggest pediatric problem was childhood obesity.

Pledge to rebuild the civilian infrastructure U.S. bombs destroyed in Iraq during the 1991 war, which is what has been fueling Iraq's incredible infant morality rate. Damaged and destroyed water-treatment facilities, plus the use of depleted uranium weapons, has led to a humanitarian crisis in which little children are dying of preventable water-borne diseases and related birth defects.

The Bush administration should sign on to the International Criminal Court and pursue an indictment of Saddam for crimes against humanity, which would gain the support of the international community for a multi-national coalition force to apprehend Saddam, if necessary.

Investigate potential punitive action against the U.S. corporations who sold and profited from the sale of nuclear, chemical and biological materials as well as missile technology to Iraq during the period when Saddam was committing the atrocities that made him infamous and is the historical "proof" upon which the Bush administration justifies its "preventive" war doctrine.

Fully and fairly implement UN Resolution 661, which calls not only for the disarmament of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction but stipulates that the Middle East be a nuclear weapons free zone. That means, of course, insisting that Israel rid itself of its nukes.
Apply international pressure on the Israeli government to dismantle all settlements in the West Bank and Gaza, establish a viable Palestinian state, and deploy an international peace-keeping force to separate the two sides.

And finally, ironically, we ought to keep in mind the thoughts of two esteemed statesmen. "Peace is not made with friends. Peace is made with enemies," according to the late Yitzhak Rabin.

Nelson Mandela adds: "If you want to make peace with your enemy, you have to work with your enemy. Then he becomes your partner."

Sean Gonsalves
Perfect sense! Now why can't we have a President who will look at options like that?
:confused::confused::confused:

[sami dg]

I think something definitely needs done with Hussein. He is one dangerous dude. However Im afraid that we are almost overlooking the war on terror now. Who knows?