Why no Johnny Carson Tonight Show Reruns?!?!

[jayman75]

For Christmas this past year, I was given the DVD collection of "The Best of Johnny Carson." There is so much quality stuff in there, that sometimes I just watch it again and again...

So, why doesn't N@N (which sucks), TVLand, or some quality cable channel pick up old reruns? Has Johnny got the show wrapped up so tight that no one of the younger generation will get to see the shows? There are people who are stars still today that are on there.

Perhaps the answer is very clear, and I just don't know it. However, I really wish someone out there could put these on late night TV. Leno and Letterman suck compared to Johnny...

Pav? Anyone??

Any idea? Will there EVER be more Johnny, Ed and Doc on TV? I hope so......

[Jimbo]

About 10 years ago (maybe a little longer), there was a syndicated program called "The Best of Carson". They took various segments from the Tonight Show (Johhny's monologue, "Carnac the Magnificent", "The Mighty Carson Art Players", etc.) and packaged them into a series of 30 minute programs that were shown mostly on independent stations around the country. The program was only in syndication for about a year.

[jayman75]

Originally posted by Jimbo
About 10 years ago (maybe a little longer), there was a syndicated program called "The Best of Carson". They took various segments from the Tonight Show (Johhny's monologue, "Carnac the Magnificent", "The Mighty Carson Art Players", etc.) and packaged them into a series of 30 minute programs that were shown mostly on independent stations around the country. The program was only in syndication for about a year.


It would have to be around 10 years... he left in May 1992.

[dawsongirl]

For $100, you can buy episodes on tape. Yeah, I know- $100? And apparently it's only episodes HE hosted, because I tried to buy some that Richard Dawson hosted and none of them were available.

[jayman75]

Originally posted by dawsongirl
For $100, you can buy episodes on tape. Yeah, I know- $100? And apparently it's only episodes HE hosted, because I tried to buy some that Richard Dawson hosted and none of them were available.

This makes absolutely no sense to me...

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[SBTB Geek]

I was wondering about this too.

Although I've only seen clips, I will love to watch this show.

[egregiousgirl]

Reruns of The Tonight Show would be really popular, I think. But the people selling the Best of Johnny Carson tapes are probably making a mint.

By the way, my favorite show for a while there was just that infomercial for the Johnny Carson tapes. That was hilarious all in itself! :lol:

[jayman75]

Yeah, it's a quality program...

Anyone out there know???

[Flash72]

I loved the Tonight Show when Johnny Carson was still doing the show. As a kid in the 70's and early 80's I would be allowed to stay up to watch the show, but on the nights that Johnny was not there and guest hosts filled in, I had no desire to watch it.
My mother, who was so intent on making me the next big child star, wrote to the show in the early 80's, trying to get me on there. While they could not grant her request, the show did send me an autographed picture of Johnny and supposedly one of the pencils that Johnny played with on his desk. In my opinion, after 1992, the Tonight Show ended for me.

As for the rerun issue, I, too, would love to see them aired again. I remember watching and taping some of the Carson Comedy Classic shows that aired many years ago, as well as the numerous anniversary episodes. As was done with the Carol Burnett Show, where only the comedy skits were shown in a thirty minute format as Carol Burnett and Friends, so, too, was the Tonight Show. I was given the Best of Carson video set many years ago for Christmas and love to rewatch them, reliving the glory days of "the" best late night show on television.

[snowpeck]

Aside from the "Best of Carson" show that ran on the Family Channel for a while, Johnny has the full episodes locked away in a salt mine (yes a salt mine) somewhere in middle america. Its been speculated that there are other "lost" series there as well.


Greg

[jayman75]

Originally posted by snowpeck
Aside from the "Best of Carson" show that ran on the Family Channel for a while, Johnny has the full episodes locked away in a salt mine (yes a salt mine) somewhere in middle america. Its been speculated that there are other "lost" series there as well.


Greg

A salt mine, huh?:confused:

Who gave you this tidbit of information?

[dawsongirl]

Originally posted by jayman75
A salt mine, huh?:confused:

Who gave you this tidbit of information?

It's on his website where you can buy individual epiosdes. I wanna say it's in Kansas.

[Czas na Zywiec]

They make money when people buy it from the company rather then showing it. Cable companies are all about money these days. Why do you think N@N and TVL are the way they are these days?!?

[jayman75]

Originally posted by dawsongirl


It's on his website where you can buy individual epiosdes. I wanna say it's in Kansas.

I just went to the website last night (www.johnnycarson.com) and found some great stuff. But there is no way in the world I would pay $99.99 for ONE episode of the show.

I guess that's why it's not on the air. It's too freakin expensive...

[winkwilliams]

Johnny Carson owns the copyright for the last twenty years or so of the Tonight Show when he was host. Many of the previous years were erased or not filmed at all, when it was broadcast live, and are gone for good.


Attempts to syndicate did not prove to be lucrative and I think his strategy is to save them and release collector's editions on DVD.

[harper]

I would love for nik at nite to start at the very beginning and go through all 30 yrs.I would however a hefty amount of money.They won't even put on shows that don't have as a great fan base as Tonight show like Carol Burnett so it's not likely they would put on Carson/They would have to pay out alot to carson,McMahon,Severinson.The Directors,alot of money,and I mean alot.Each person on that show their lawyer and agents would negotiate a hefty some.That is the real problems for shows that have major stars like Alan Alda and mash and Carol Burnett they would have to offer alot because of their name and status that brings in money by associations with high level Entertainment quality.Seinfeld,Frasier,and eventually will and Grace if they reach legendary status they will be asking for the moon as well.

[duffaholic]

So does anyone have any tapes or dvds of complete shows from the tonight show w/johnny carson, I would be very interested in talking trade.

[jazzybill]

I am looking for the following episodes of Johnny Carson:

Johnny Carson Guest Star Shelley Winters
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Season 13
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gs: Shelley Winters (Guest) Oliver Reed (Guest) Charles Aznavour
(Guest) Dr. Ronald Taylor (Guest)
b: 26-Sep-1975 d: Bobby Quinn
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Season 15
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gs: Shelley Winters (Guest) Gladys Knight & the Pips (Guest) Los
Indios Tabajaras (Guest) Johnny Bench (Guest)
b: 29-Oct-1976 d: Bobby Quinn
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Season 15
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gs: Shelley Winters (Guest) Victor Buono (Guest) Joe Williams (Guest)
Gordon Margulis (Guest) James Phelan (Guest) Mel Stewart (II) (Guest)
b: 20-Jan-1977 d: Bob Ostberg
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Season 28
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gs: Jay Leno (Guest Host) Shelley Winters (Guest) Hoyt Axton (Guest)
Don "Mr Wizard" Herbert (Guest)
b: 24-Jan-1990 d: Bob Ostberg
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Season 29
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gs: Jay Leno (Guest Host) Shelley Winters (Guest) Pet Shop Boys
(Guest) Jim Carrey (Guest) Dawnn Lewis (Guest)
25-Mar-1991 d: Bob Ostberg

[barwars]

My birthday is this friday.... and hinted at the DVD collection.
Hopefully Ill get it.



I would love for this show to air in syndication.... maybe a "Variety Network" featuring UNCUT classic variety shows.... but it would probably be a premium-only channel like HBO or Showtime.

[siblis]

Hi,
I have enclosed a listing of shows that I have for trade:



THE TONIGHT SHOW:
1)1-14-64 w/Jonah Jones, Jack Douglas, Sam Levinson, Hedda Hopper 80 min B/W EXC- #944B
2) 10-1-72 w/Jack Benny, Don Rickles 60 min Color VG-
3) 1972 w/Sammy Davis Jr., George Burns, Carl Reiner 60 min Color EXC- (Audio Dropouts) #697B
4)1972 “Non-Air Budweiser Advertising and Marketing Campaign 35 min Color EXC- #943C w/o/c
5)8-31-74 w/Joan Embree, Bette Midler 25 min B/W EXC- #944A
6)1975 w/Buddy Rich, Don Rickles, John Byner, Cathy Rich 15 min, Color EXC- #853A
7)6-1-77 w/Buddy Rich, Tony Randall 13 min Color VG- #853B
8)1977 w/Host, Frank Sinatra, George Burns, Angie Dickinson 60 min Color VG- #604B
9)2-17-78 w/Buddy Rich 11 min Color VG+ #853C
10)3-24-78 w/Buddy Rich, Shecky Greene 13 min Color VG+ #853D
11)8-11-78 w/Buddy Rich 13 min Color VG+ #853E
12)1-7-79 w/Buddy Rich 13 min Color VG+ #853F
13)2-2-79 w/Buddy Rich 14 min Color VG+ #853G
14)1979 w/Host, Kermit the Frog; Vincent Price, Leo Sayer, Bernadette Peters 90 min Color EXC- #666B
15)5-2-79 w/Raquel Welch, Tony Bennett, James Galway 90 min Color VG+ #916A
16)6-13-79 w/Buddy Rich, Tony Randall 9 min Color poor(cut-bad glitches) #853H
17)2-26-80 w/Buddy Rich 13 min Color VG+ #852A
18)5-29-80 w/Buddy Rich 12 min Color VG #852C
19)9-2-80 w/Buddy Rich, Tony Bennett 15 min Color VG #852B
20)9-4-80 w/Buddy Rich 9 min Color VG- #852D
21)10-28-80 w/Buddy Rich 8 min Color VG- (glitches) #852E
22)11-11-81 w/Buddy Rich 11 min Color VG #852F
23)6-8-82 w/Buddy Rich 9 min Color VG #852G
24)5-23-83 w/Buddy Rich 8 min Color VG #852H
25)8-10-83 w/Buddy Rich 7 min Color VG+ #852I
26)12-13-83 w/Buddy Rich 8 min Color VG+ #852J
27)11-14-84 w/Buddy Rich 9 min Color VG+ #852K
28)10-85 w/Buddy Rich 10 min Color VG- #852L
29)3-26-86 w/Buddy Rich, Billy Crystal 7 min Color VG- (cut) #852M
30)11-7-85 w/John McLaughlin 10 min Color EXC- #713C
31)10-90 w/Bob Newhart, David Horowitz 60 min Color VG+ #1112C
32)3-28-73 w/Robert Blake, The Bee Gees, Richard Bach 90 min Color EXC #1381A w/o/c
33)12-6-73 w/Sammy Davis Jr., Freddie Prinze, Diane Keaton, Erma Bombeck 90 min Color EXC #1380A
w/o/c
34)5-21-74 w/Bob Hope, Carol Wayne, Freddie Prinze, Michael Landon, Don Rickles 90 min Color EXC
#1379A w/o/c
35)6-9-83 w/Richard Pryor, Allie Sheedy, Rod Hall & Emu 60 min Color VG+ #1399A w/o/c
36)5-18-78 w/Bert Convey, Eubie blake, Fernando Lamas 90 min Color VG+ #1399B w/o/c
37)9-23-75 w/Glen Campbell, The Supremes, Fernando Lamas, Lynn Redgrave, Kelly Montkeith
90 min Color VG #1415A w/o/c
38)1973 w/Ozzie & Harriet, Tony Randall, Jerry Van Dyke, William Blatty 90 min Color EXC #1424A
w/o/c
39)1976 w/Robert Blake, Lola Falana, James Hampton, 90 min Color EXC #1423A w/o/c
40)1975 w/Goldie Hawn, Johnny Mathis, Orson Bean 90 min Color EXC #1422A w/o/c
41)1976 w/Bob Hope, Steve Martin, Jim Fowler, David Horowitz 90 min Color EXC #1421A w/o/c
42)1980 w/William Holden, Steve Lawrence, Carl Reiner, Clark Terry 90 min Color VG #1420A w/o/c
43)1974 w/Jack Benny, Jim Henson & Kermit The Frog, Mel Blanc, Maria Muldaur 90 min Color EXC
#1419A w/o/c
44)1974 w/Burt Reynolds, Dom DeLuise, Art Carney, Ace Trucking Co. 90 min Color EXC #1418A w/o/c
45)11-30-73 w/Helen Reddy, Rich Little, Carl Sagan 90 min Color EXC #1464A w/o/c
46)2-27-73 w/Buddy Hackett, Nancy Wilson, Hurricane Smith, Marcel Marceau 90 min Color EXC
#1463A w/o/c
47)1-3-73 w/Joan Rivers, Jack Lemmon, Billy Wilder, Helen Reddy 90 min Color EXC #1462A w/o/c
48)6-25-80 w/Kenny Rogers, Kim Carnes, Lee Marvin, Buck Henry 90 min Color EXC #1461A w/o/c
49)2-6-73 w/Bobby Darin, Joan Embry, Seals & Croft, Orson Bean 90 min Color EXC #1460A w/o/c

[Sterling Holobyte]

I would love it if they started showing it on tv again! I'd rather watch Johnny than Dave, Jay, and Conan combined.






Originally posted by barwars88
My birthday is this friday....
Oh, and Happy Birthday!:wave:

[carsonfan]

I think the reason there is no reruns is because of fees. I think they would have to pay Johnny,actors and writers millions of dollars in order to air these shows. For a few years on the johnny carson website you were able to purchase single episodes. It cost 99.00 for one show then 79.00 for four other episodes a piece. Last year they took that off the website. I was going to purchase some episodes and they informed me that I wasn't able to purchase them. For whatever reason, the 4,000 episodes are placed 54 stores down underground in a saltmine in Kansas. I would love to see them air at least one old episode a week on NBC at night like when they air a classic episode of SNL on Saturday nights.

[jazzybill]

Did you record any of his shows? please e-mail me at JazzyBill@Aol.Com