The Sopranos was terrific tonight

[Janice]

Tonight's show was a standout. The scene where Tony kills Ralphie was positively wild. Tony can take a lot I guess, but burn his horse alive, and you end up in the bathtub in pieces, not to mention your head in a bowling bag. I'm sorry to see Ralphie go. I loved hating him.
I knew Ralphie was angry with Tony after being told he's seeing Valentina.
The aftershock of his killing will be interesting. The previews showed Johnny Sac in a showdown with Tony.
Christopher still on the junk--I just hate that storyline. It's disturbing to me. I like seeing him in top form and quick witted.
I hope we finally reach a resolution with Uncle Jr's trial. Enough already. They've been dragging this one on for too long. It was funny though watching him fake dementia for the court doctor.
Not too much of Dr. Melfi this season. I always hoped that Tony would find out about the rape, but that storyline apparently fell by the wayside.
Briandamage, you pointed out the fact that they abandon storylines, and I agree. One of the best episodes ever was when Christopher and Paulie were caught in the snowy woods chasing the Russian, eating ketchup and relish, lol....Paulie saying, "I think he's an interior designer." :lol:
I thought the Russian mob would be a huge plot.
This Carmella and Furio thing is on the path to hell. They might as well just commit suicide together.
Not a lot of Meadow and AJ either which suits me fine. I don't watch The Sopranos for family and college drama.
This Adriana and Feds situation, hopefully, will get wrapped up this season, but I think it will be part of the cliff-hanger.
It's all leading to a big finale which I assume is coming soon. I've enjoyed this season so far.
Then, we just have to wait another 18 months for another season. :crazy:

[Brian Damage]

The way it looks to me is maybe Tony is gonna try to pin the blame on the New York mob. I agree with you about Christopher and the drugs. I use to love his comedic quick wit. Dr. Melfi has become almost useless this season. It'll be interesting to see how Paulie will fit in to this brewing situation with Tony and the New Yorkers.

[Brian Damage]

One other thing about last night's episode, I kinda felt bad for Ralphie when he died. I mean he was always the guy you loved to hate, but in his final episode he looked like he was turning a new leaf. Maybe I'm crazy, but his son's accident made him more vulnerable and human.

[Janice]

Originally posted by briandamage
One other thing about last night's episode, I kinda felt bad for Ralphie when he died. I mean he was always the guy you loved to hate, but in his final episode he looked like he was turning a new leaf. Maybe I'm crazy, but his son's accident made him more vulnerable and human.
I know what you mean. I also found myself feeling bad for Ralphie at a certain point, but then I get a reality check...I think of the dancer he beat to death a few season's ago. He couldn't really redeem himself after the brutality of that....and that poor horse. Yikes!
Yet still, his final show was designed to make him appear more vulnerable. That explains the storyline about his son almost dying, and showing Ralphie's pain.
I think it was a mistake writing Ralphie off. I know they're all bad guys, but the show needs a real villian. Ralphie replaced Ritchie in the villian department. Ironically, they were both carted out in Hefty bags.
Good theory Brian, on Tony blaming the New York mob. I hadn't thought of that. It makes sense.
I'm not up on my mob rankings, but I wonder if Tony is as powerful as Johnny Sac? I know Tony's the acting capo (I think) for Uncle Jr. I'm guessing they have equal rank but just operate in different locations.

[Brian Damage]

Originally posted by JanLady617
I'm not up on my mob rankings, but I wonder if Tony is as powerful as Johnny Sac? I know Tony's the acting capo (I think) for Uncle Jr. I'm guessing they have equal rank but just operate in different locations.

They are equal, both Tony and Johnny are underbosses. Tony might even have a little more stroke than Johnny because he is the acting Capo.

I think however, Johnny Sac seems to have more power because he's from New York and I think the New York mob is stronger than the New Jersey one.

[Janice]

Originally posted by briandamage


They are equal, both Tony and Johnny are underbosses. Tony might even have a little more stroke than Johnny because he is the acting Capo.

I think however, Johnny Sac seems to have more power because he's from New York and I think the New York mob is stronger than the New Jersey one.
Thanks Brian. When Johnny Sac was getting out of hand over the fat remark Ralphie made about his wife Jinny, and the hit was put on Johnny, it had to be sanctioned by Carmine (think that's his name). This means that Carmine is the Boss or is it the Don? In the sense that John Gotti was?
Also, when Johnny Sac put the contract out on Ralphie, was he doing this on his own? This would be a violation of code, right?
Can I ask enough questions? :lol:

[Kitt]

I had the incredible misfortune of not being able to see this last episode. Ralphie?...he had to go. He was a monster. There's no way that you could trust the guy. He was a lunatic, and that's just too dangerous. He was too much for me. If Tony went on tolerating the guy I'd have to question Tonie's judgement.Tonie's judgemnet holds everything together on the show.

[Brian Damage]

Originally posted by JanLady617
This means that Carmine is the Boss or is it the Don? In the sense that John Gotti was?
Also, when Johnny Sac put the contract out on Ralphie, was he doing this on his own? This would be a violation of code, right?
Can I ask enough questions? :lol:

Carmine can be considered a boss or a Don. Yes, he would be the equivalent to John Gotti, while Johnny Sac would be considered an underboss like Sammy "The Bull" Gravano.

Yes, Johnny Sac tried to put an unauthorized hit on Ralph. That's a reason why Carmine put a hit on Johnny because he knew Johnny was going to do something stupid that would cause a war.

Jan, you can ask me anything, my secret online crush. ;)

[Brian Damage]

Originally posted by kittflynn
If Tony went on tolerating the guy I'd have to question Tonie's judgement.Tonie's judgemnet holds everything together on the show.

The only reason why Tony kept him alive so long is because Ralphie was making Tony a lot of money. The rest of his crew were F@#king up. Stealing from the job site, doing drugs and making a big stink about a parade.

[Janice]

Originally posted by briandamage

Jan, you can ask me anything, my secret online crush. ;)

You learn something new everyday, lol. :blush:
Thanks for the the mob information Brian. You should teach Gangster 101. ;)

[Brian Damage]

Well, considering there are people in my family named Gambino and Castellano, maybe I should.:D

[Janice]

Originally posted by briandamage
Well, considering there are people in my family named Gambino and Castellano, maybe I should.:D
Remind me to always be nice to you. ;)

[Brian Damage]

Originally posted by JanLady617

Remind me to always be nice to you. ;)

Don't worry, most of those goomba's are dead or in jail. My cousin Joe Castellano is a pediatrician and his brother John is an ears,eyes and throat doctor. Not exactly the "family" business. ;)

[Janice]

Interesting article.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20021114/D7N9UOH00.html

[Janice]

Looks like you were right Brian--Tony's trying to pin Ralphie's demise on New York, but I don't think anyone's buying it. Everyone's losing trust in Tony...not a good thing.
I couldn't believe when Christopher killed Adriana's dog. What's up with David Chase and the dead animals?
Christopher's intervention was just too funny. It's how I would imagine a mob intervention to turn out.
Paulie was a riot at the intervention and about Tony's portrait. He's one weird character.
Tony and the Russian woman--he'll nail anything female. It's like an afternoon at the movies for him. I've always thought that one of these days, a woman will get pregnant by him. That would turn his life upside down, and open the door to intense conflict with himself and Carmella.
I think Furio's trying to do the right thing, but his feelings for Carmella are overwhelming him. His uncle in Italy told him he'd have to kill Tony in order to be with her. Maybe his attempt at that will be part of the season finale.
Only 3 shows left. :( Stay tuned.

[Kitt]

Originally posted by JanLady617
Looks like you were right Brian--Tony's trying to pin Ralphie's demise on New York, but I don't think anyone's buying it. Everyone's losing trust in Tony...not a good thing.
I couldn't believe when Christopher killed Adriana's dog. What's up with David Chase and the dead animals?
Christopher's intervention was just too funny. It's how I would imagine a mob intervention to turn out.
Paulie was a riot at the intervention and about Tony's portrait. He's one weird character.
Tony and the Russian woman--he'll nail anything female. It's like an afternoon at the movies for him. I've always thought that one of these days, a woman will get pregnant by him. That would turn his life upside down, and open the door to intense conflict with himself and Carmella.
I think Furio's trying to do the right thing, but his feelings for Carmella are overwhelming him. His uncle in Italy told him he'd have to kill Tony in order to be with her. Maybe his attempt at that will be part of the season finale.
Only 3 shows left. :( Stay tuned. These mob guys are afunny crowd. They don't give a **** about anyone so Ralphie being dead or alive makes no difference to them. They don't care if Tony killed him or not they just want to be sure that someone takes over for him because of the revenue which they'll be competing for.

Christopher's intervention! What a riot. As if guys like that are going to care about his well being and as if Christopher is going to take those guys seriously as role models. I'm not sure yet how bad he feels about Adriana though. Maybe he'll meet some woman in the rehab who understands his situation and then he'll be a junkie involved in an affair to boot.

Actually, I think the reason that they keep showing Tony in his sexual indiscretions is because he isn't following the rules in other regards--including killing Ralphie--and so when he finds out about Carmela and Furio he's going to have a tinge of concience and not be able to do what he is supposed to do which is, if I'm not mistaking according to mob rule, kill both of them. There has to be some reason other than general entertainment purposes for showing us each and everyone of Tonie's dalliances, (Right word?).

[Janice]

Originally posted by kittflynn
These mob guys are afunny crowd. They don't give a **** about anyone so Ralphie being dead or alive makes no difference to them. They don't care if Tony killed him or not they just want to be sure that someone takes over for him because of the revenue which they'll be competing for.

Christopher's intervention! What a riot. As if guys like that are going to care about his well being and as if Christopher is going to take those guys seriously as role models. I'm not sure yet how bad he feels about Adriana though. Maybe he'll meet some woman in the rehab who understands his situation and then he'll be a junkie involved in an affair to boot.

Actually, I think the reason that they keep showing Tony in his sexual indiscretions is because he isn't following the rules in other regards--including killing Ralphie--and so when he finds out about Carmela and Furio he's going to have a tinge of concience and not be able to do what he is supposed to do which is, if I'm not mistaking according to mob rule, kill both of them. There has to be some reason other than general entertainment purposes for showing us each and everyone of Tonie's dalliances, (Right word?).
You're right about the mobsters not caring about Ralphie's death on an emotional level. He was a big earner, that does concern them greatly. Another troubling aspect for them is the trust level with Tony. One of them said it in the show...I'm paraphrasing..."If it could happen to Ralphie, it could happen to any one of us...if he doesn't like our shoes...."
Tony broke mob protocol in a big way by killing one of his own captains without the proper "sit down".
A rehab affair for Christopher--that would be interesting. I know of two couples who met in rehab and later married. People are in a vulnerable state while in the early stages of recovery.
I agree also that they're showing Tony the hornball to illustrate that he does things any old way he wants, and it probably will play into his wife's affair should it take place.
Another reason for showing the audience Tony's sexual escapades is that sex sells. People love R-Rated movies, etc, and this is HBO. Most people, myself included, pay for this channel for the sex, violence, profanity and the other stuff you're not going to see on Everybody Loves Raymond. I wouldn't pay extra for Law & Order. HBO pushes the envelope...right off the table.

[Brian Damage]

I agree that the intervention was hilarious. That's why I hope Paulie lives throughout the remainder of the show. He adds great comic relief. Furio is going to die, plain and simple. It looks like Baccala is gonna find out what a sneaky bitch Tony's sister really is. Christopher really seems to be turning into a Henry Hill type character, who'll eventually squeal on Tony. Then again, they all look like they'll squeal.

[Kitt]

I haven't figured out why it is that Paulie has the obsession with Tony's portait. Does anyone else know what that's all about and what the underlying reason is behind his obsession?

[Janice]

Originally posted by briandamage
I agree that the intervention was hilarious. That's why I hope Paulie lives throughout the remainder of the show. He adds great comic relief. Furio is going to die, plain and simple. It looks like Baccala is gonna find out what a sneaky bitch Tony's sister really is. Christopher really seems to be turning into a Henry Hill type character, who'll eventually squeal on Tony. Then again, they all look like they'll squeal.
It does seem that way. So much for the code of silence and loyalty. Christopher would sell his mother for a bag of smack.
Yeah, Furio's days are numbered. It's so obvious. That storyline feels contrived to me. They don't have that onscreen chemistry that convinces me that they're really hot for each other. His looks don't appeal to me, so it could be just me.
Paulie is a pistol. If the show is really only going for 5 seasons, that leaves only 1 more season to start whacking characters. I can see Paulie going down. If they could kill Big *****, then nothing would surprise me. Tony Sirico, who plays Paulie, has a shady past. It was 30 years ago, and he's cleaned up his act, but he used to be a wiseguy who did time. The actual documents are on the website www.thesmokinggun.com
Type his name in Search to read it.
I would hate to see him leave the show. He's one of the more colorful characters. Of all the actors on the Sopranos, Sirico is the only one that I get the feeling that he's not entirely acting. I get that with Jack Nicholson too...it's as if they play nuts a little TOO well.
On a sidenote, I still hate that Ralphie's gone. He was sort of like Joe Pecci's character in Goodfellas. A necessary evil.
Bobby Baccala with Janice. He needs her after losing his wife, and I need to have the same name as her. :crazy:

(this system automatically blocks profanity. guess it doesn't recognize gangster nicknames, lol)

[Janice]

Originally posted by kittflynn
I haven't figured out why it is that Paulie has the obsession with Tony's portait. Does anyone else know what that's all about and what the underlying reason is behind his obsession?
I was wondering the same thing Kitt. Perhaps it's his crazy way of defying Tony....secret revenge. He knows T wanted the portrait destroyed, and I don't think he wants to admire it. I think Paulie resents Tony, especially after he sided with Ralphie over the money dispute last season. He's the type to nurse a grudge.
I hope, for Paulie's sake, that his boss doesn't drop over unannounced. Something tells me Tony wouldn't appreciated being dressed as Napoleon. :lol:
More seriously though, Tony had a mental meltdown of sorts over his horse's demise, (Pie-O-My?). I think if he did see it hanging there, he'd crash it over Paulie's head.

[Kitt]

Originally posted by JanLady617

I was wondering the same thing Kitt. Perhaps it's his crazy way of defying Tony....secret revenge. He knows T wanted the portrait destroyed, and I don't think he wants to admire it. I think Paulie resents Tony, especially after he sided with Ralphie over the money dispute last season. He's the type to nurse a grudge.
I hope, for Paulie's sake, that his boss doesn't drop over unannounced. Something tells me Tony wouldn't appreciated being dressed as Napoleon. :lol:
More seriously though, Tony had a mental meltdown of sorts over his horse's demise, (Pie-O-My?). I think if he did see it hanging there, he'd crash it over Paulie's head. Yeah, more than any other possibility, that's about what I figured Paulie was up to. Dressing Tony up in the foolish looking Napoleon outfit with his beloved horse would have to enrage Tony if he ever were to see it, which he will one day, lol. I like how Paulie gives the picture a good, smug look and then goes about his business watching TV. It's like saying to Tony, "I finally got you right where I want you, you big so and so." I could have used a good Paulie line in place of the 'so and so', lol. Also remember that Tony emphatically yelled to the guy to "burn it!" So he is going to be some kind of PO'd when he finds out what became of the picture.

[Brian Damage]

I agree that Paulie probably did it in a way to spite Tony, but I also think Paulie is a little whacko and actually liked the portrait. Remember, this is the same guy who went through Adrianna's draws and sniffed her panties.

I sort of miss Ralphie too. The show needs a character that you'll love to hate. Maybe that person will end up being Johnny Sac?!?

[Brian Damage]

This week's show wasn't as good as the previous two weeks, but was still good. It kind of looks like the show is phasing out the Dr. Melfi character. Even though I like Lorraine Bracco, I can understand why they are getting rid of her. She has really become almost an after thought on the show.

[Janice]

I thought this week's show was weak, but I guess every show can't be a blockbuster.
Too much focus on Bobby Baccala, his kids, his dead wife and the cake. Too much on Melfi too--good riddance to her, and I used to enjoy the scenes with her and Tony.
Janice was just nuts sending that IM to Bobby's kids. She's some sort of nuts. :crazy:
I did enjoy the dream sequence in the car....sort of creepy with Gloria and Ralphie with the bug on his head.
That's the problem...NO RALPHIE. The show is dull without him, lol.
Two more to go. The only shows I didn't really enjoy that much was the stupid parade episode and last night's show.
Overall, I've enjoyed the season.
I'm looking forward to Six Feet Under and Sex and The City. HBO always manages to keep viewers hooked by having something cooking on Sunday nights. They make sure nobody cancels their subscriptions.

[Kitt]

In the trailer for the last episoides they say don't assume anything. So I take them at their word. Like, maybe the Dr is not gone afterall or at least not without some dramatic turn of events. Or maybe Tony's breakingup horseshoe pin is going to surface in some way to make waves, or who knows what. But that last show was a bit slow and the youngsters in the show are not easy to get involved with emotionallly. Their basically ordinary youth troubles can't compete well with the craziness of the mob world and it's nutso characters. I'm confident that the last two episodes will be season ending humdingers. :)

[Janice]

Originally posted by kittflynn
In the trailer for the last episoides they say don't assume anything. So I take them at their word. Like, maybe the Dr is not gone afterall or at least not without some dramatic turn of events
I sort of got a feeling in the previews that something is up with Dr. Melfi. She looked upset. Maybe an obsession kicks in with her. They all get obsessed with Tony. Who can resist him with his wife beater shirts, nice physique, that full head of hair, lol.
Just kidding. I personally find James Gandolfini very attractive, as do most of my friends. I think it's his character's persona--the power and money make him attractive to women. He actually cleans up well with those nice suits and all. ;)

[Brian Damage]

Originally posted by JanLady617

Just kidding. I personally find James Gandolfini very attractive, as do most of my friends. I think it's his character's persona--the power and money make him attractive to women. He actually cleans up well with those nice suits and all. ;)

I've heard the same thing from other women too and I just don't get it!? Putting aside his physical looks, the character is a murderer, a theif and an adulterer. Boy, is he catch or what?!? ;)

[Brian Damage]

I just read in the New York Daily News that several Soprano stars are headed to Broadway.

1. Jamie Lynn Sigler(Meadow) is starring as Belle in Beauty and the Beast.

2. Lorraine Bracco(Dr. Melfi) will be starring as Mrs. Robinson in The Graduate.

3. Edie Falco(Carmella) is starring in Frankie and Johnny

4. Joe Pantonliano(Ralphie) will also be starring in Frankie and Johnny.

A few good reasons for any Soprano fan to come to NY.

[Janice]

Originally posted by briandamage


I've heard the same thing from other women too and I just don't get it!? Putting aside his physical looks, the character is a murderer, a theif and an adulterer. Boy, is he catch or what?!? ;)
Not only is he a catch, but you'd probably catch something from him, lol.
It doesn't make sense even to me, but I have a lot of female friends who are Soprano fans who goes nuts for Tony. It defies logic. Level-headed women, myself included, ignore his criminal life, and find him appealing. Go figure. :crazy:

[Janice]

Originally posted by briandamage
I just read in the New York Daily News that several Soprano stars are headed to Broadway.

A few good reasons for any Soprano fan to come to NY.

I'll say. Considering the 5th season probably won't premiere until 2006, the cast can star in movies and plays, write movies and plays, travel the world a few times, cure cancer, etc.

[Brian Damage]

I wonder if Furio is leaving the show or will he come back to fight for Carmella. The show is doing a real good job of making Tony a very unlikeable character. Even though Tony always did horrible things, for some reason, it's starting to wear on me this season. A part of me kinda wanted Furio to toss him into those helicopter blades. I can't wait to see who gets whacked in the series finale! ;)

[Janice]

The Sopranos didn't knock me out this week but was a vast improvement over last week. The scene where Furio was going to shove Tony into the helicopter blades was just insane. I don't think Furio's coming back. He's gone the way of the Russian and Melfi's rapist.
Weird stuff with Paulie killing the old day. I don't get the point other than to illustrate what a nutjob he is, and we already knew that. I've enjoyed this season, but I think it's sort of gone downhill the last few weeks.
We've got the 75 minute finale coming up. It had better be good. Perhaps Paulie's going to whack Johnny Sac for playing him for a fool.

[Kitt]

Furio taking out Tony would be the pits. If Furio is so stuck on Tony's wife he should tell Tony to his face. Anything less than that would be chickendoo and repulsive. These guys are supposed to have more nads than most of us do. That's why they chose or were chosen to be mobsters. I'm wondering if Tony knows what's been going on and has plans for Furio that we haven't anticipated.

[Janice]

Originally posted by kittflynn
Furio taking out Tony would be the pits. If Furio is so stuck on Tony's wife he should tell Tony to his face. Anything less than that would be chickendoo and repulsive. These guys are supposed to have more nads than most of us do. That's why they chose or were chosen to be mobsters. I'm wondering if Tony knows what's been going on and has plans for Furio that we haven't anticipated.
I don't think that Tony suspects about Carmella and Furio having the major hots for each other. I do think he knows that Furio was trying to kill him. He did say, What the F are you doing?", and it appeared to sober Tony up.
Furio must know this which would explain his abrupt departure--that and knowing he has to get away from Carm for both their goods.

[Brian Damage]

I have to say,I was disappointed with the finale. Not much happened in the 75 minutes it was on. Carmine lives, Johnny Sac gets screwed and Tony and Carmella split up. I guess the split will pave the way for Dr. Melfi's return. Tony should have whacked that arrogant lawyer or at the very least take out the Russian chick. One thing positive was Edie Falco, she deserves an emmy after her performance last night. Very powerful stuff. Overall I have to say I was kind of disappointed with this year's season. It was good, but not great.

[Janice]

I give the overall season a B. Nothing great, but not terrible. What frustrates me is how good the show could be--the potential is there. The viewers have better ideas most of the time, or at least the viewers I talk to. Edie Falco did deliver a fantastic performance sans the makeup and done-up hair.
It seemed odd, that after years of Tony's philandering, that Carm got so angry over a phonecall. I mean, where's the newsflash? Everyone has their breaking point I guess. A lot of it may have to do with her feelings for Furio, and speaking of that, I'm surprised Tony didn't make more of that after his initial outburst.
I liked the finale, but I would've liked it more if it had some violence. I'll admit, I watch The Sopranos, in part, for the violence.
I was irritated when the Russian girl wasn't home. I at least wanted Tony to scream at her.
The actor who played the lawyer was good. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw him again. Those Dean Martin tapes playing from the boat were hilarious.
Last season, when the show ended, I felt sad. This time, I'm like....whatever.
David Chase needs to get a clue and stop resting on his laurels.

[Kitt]

I thought that last show was nearly excellent. Complex, realistic, covered a lot of ground without sensationalizing each segment of the story lines. I agree that the attorney was great and his wife was also very good. Dean Martin from the boat was much more imaginitive than just wacking the guy. It shows a game of wits being played out.
Carmella's character is more mixed up then we've thought. That's what I get from Tony telling her what he told her in their yelling match after the Furio addmission. And just like any family, no matter who is right or wrong, there is that sadness that becomes the main story in the midst of a breakup. They did a good job of making us feel that with Meadow and Anthony getting upset like children when Tony told them he would be moving out.
Janice--Christopher having those guys killed in a blizzard of bulletts wasn't enough violence for you, lol?

[Brian Damage]

Originally posted by kittflynn
Janice--Christopher having those guys killed in a blizzard of bulletts wasn't enough violence for you, lol?

I know it wasn't enough for me.;)

[Janice]

Originally posted by kittflynn
Janice--Christopher having those guys killed in a blizzard of bulletts wasn't enough violence for you, lol?
LOL, I guess not. I wanted to see some action with perhaps Paulie and Johnny Sac or, as I mentioned, Tony with Irena--violence with characters we know. I think a scene was called for Tony going nuts at Irena, punching her walls in and throwing things at her.
I agree that Meadow and AJ's reaction to their parent's breakup was superb. It was done well.
This episode was different, and I liked it, but like some people, I was expecting an exciting mobster-fest.

[Brian Damage]

By the way, I put up a thread on the Suggestion and Feedback site that a Soprano board is needed. If you guys want a board, please go to the thread and respond.:)

[Janice]

Originally posted by briandamage


I know it wasn't enough for me.;)
Brian, I think we're bloodthirsty. :happyface

[Kitt]

Originally posted by Janice

LOL, I guess not. I wanted to see some action with perhaps Paulie and Johnny Sac or, as I mentioned, Tony with Irena--violence with characters we know. I think a scene was called for Tony going nuts at Irena, punching her walls in and throwing things at her.
I agree that Meadow and AJ's reaction to their parent's breakup was superb. It was done well.
This episode was different, and I liked it, but like some people, I was expecting an exciting mobster-fest. I know what you mean, lol. It seems like the Paulie and the Carmine stiuation, among others needed some movement or finality. I think what happened here -- I'm at the writer's meeting now -- they had to decide on family dilemas or mobster dilemas. Plus they had to create some new dilemas such as the attorney and the beach house situation. Not enough time to flesh out everything so they went with the personal family situations. The family situation was being neglected, in a way. Viewers had to have been asking how the Soprano family could go on as they were without the crudola hitting the fan.

[Brian Damage]

Originally posted by kittflynn
I know what you mean, lol. It seems like the Paulie and the Carmine stiuation, among others needed some movement or finality. I think what happened here -- I'm at the writer's meeting now -- they had to decide on family dilemas or mobster dilemas. Plus they had to create some new dilemas such as the attorney and the beach house situation. Not enough time to flesh out everything so they went with the personal family situations. The family situation was being neglected, in a way. Viewers had to have been asking how the Soprano family could go on as they were without the crudola hitting the fan.

I don't have a problem with the writers dealing with some family issues, but it's going inside the mafia that inrigues me the most about the show. Hopefully, they'll continue the storyline with Johnny Sac and Carmine next season.(Whenever that'll be.)

[Janice]

Originally posted by briandamage


I don't have a problem with the writers dealing with some family issues, but it's going inside the mafia that inrigues me the most about the show. Hopefully, they'll continue the storyline with Johnny Sac and Carmine next season.(Whenever that'll be.)
Good news. The 5th season is scheduled for September, and that's September of 2003, not 2004 or 2005, lol.
Any Six Feet Under fans? It's a brilliant show. They haven't given a start date, but my guess is February.

[Montclave]

:wave: wave: hi - I just joined up today. Thanks Janice for sending me straight to this board. I only wish I could've chatted with you Kitt & Brian this whole season. I thought the finale was good. The prior 2 episodes were a little slow although I loved the Furio scene almost pushing Tony into the blades.

I was hoping that since Meadow figured out why her mom was so sick, she could've made a comment to Tony to make him put 2 & 2 together regarding the Furio incident and Carmela's sickness.
I hope Furio comes back. I don't want him to get killed. It will be interesting.

The Dean Martin songs were great. That Lawyer has to be nuts.

Hopefully next season will take advantage of the endless opportunties they can give us blood and guts :) with the Johnny Sac - New York Mob or even the other gang members coming for revenge when Christopher x'd them out.

Some past worth mentions that I missed out on....

I do miss Ralphie even though he was a total sicko. The episode of his killing was something!! I can't belive Paulie killed the old lady for her money either. In reading your posts .... one of the funniest was when Paulie and Christopher were in the woods. That was great.

Well guess now we will have to wait till next season!