TMC
08-16-2002, 06:10 PM
:eek:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23450
Examples that at the very least, come to my mind:
*The Temple of Doom:
I think that many were dumbfounded by the toned up level of violence (not to mention the increasingly obnoxious performance by Mrs. Speilberg as the female lead) and gross-out moments so to speak (e.g. the now infamous beating heart sequence and the diner scene) which helped inspire the creation of the PG-13 rating.
*Back to the Future Part II:
Even though I personally though this one was more original than the more valued third one (even though it sure as hell can't stand alone due to its tired western set-up and need to keep on referencing moments from Part II), the best guess that I could come up with is that some folks were simply pissed off over the sudden cop out ending which was if anything an excuse to advertise Part III.
*Batman Forever:
To be honest with you, I'm somewhat partial to this because I absolutely can't stand the vibe that Tim Burton and his seemingly growing ego created in "Batman Returns." With that being said, there has to be some sort of "guilt by association" (do in part because of the Joel Schumacher influence spreading) ordeal going on because of the pounding that "Batman & Robin" got.
*Titanic:
1. We all starting to get sick of having to hear Celine Dion & "My Heart Will Go On" being played to ad nauseum. The worst was when radio stations decided to include actual sound bytes from the movie.
2. Mr. Tree Hugger Leonardo DiCaprio was practically being pushed to the moon as "the next big thing" by the media (especially when Oscar time came).
3. The sad fact that a real life tragedy was one way or another was taken for granted and/or exploited w/ all of the endingless "I'm the king of the world!!!" resets and the "Heart of the Ocean" amulet actually being put on sale.
*The Phantom Menace: The Jar Jar Binks factor obviously has to come into play somewhere as does the belief that Lucas & company fooled around way too much w/ the CGI while pandering hard to the "kiddie crowd" (hence Jar Jar being brought up again).
*Charlie's Angels:
I'll admit that part of this is based on personal opinions (don't expect me to tell you to "not take it seriously" or "leave your brain at the door") but that can't be the whole story is it!? Anyway, I seriously want to suggest that some of us were getting really fed up and turn off by the fact that the stars were pathetically trying to sugar coat the very troubled and clueless production (e.g. Lucy Liu fueding w/ Bill Murray) by acting all giddy and holding hands during interviews. If it wasn't that, then it was Drew Barrymore shoving her relationship w/ that bloak Tom "The One Nut Wonder" Green and her anti gun agenda down our throats to go along w/ the ad nauseum level of hype in general for a TV-based movie that most of the target audience either weren't born or were too young to remember anyway!
*Armageddon:
Even though the movie went on to make somewhere around $200 million (we're speaking on a domestic level by the way) the first thing that critics seemed to ways make target practice out of was Michael Bay's hyper-active directing style and little else.
*Mission: Impossible:
Remember all of the "This movie is confusing" rants!? So when it came time to make the more pure action minded sequel, we were frequently given moments of "de-masking." If that isn't a case of dumbing things down a great deal then I sure as hell don't know what is.
*Scary Movie:
Perhaps some people simply looked at many of the often recycled gags on "face value" because of the gross out aspects (which can probably help shed some light on why the sequel was a relative failure). People figured that it was a bit pointless for a "spoof" on comptempary slasher/horror movies when we had semi-serious "Scream" even though that movie was even more self-important and pretentious then "Scary Movie" ever set out to be.
:confused:
:rolleyes:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23450
Examples that at the very least, come to my mind:
*The Temple of Doom:
I think that many were dumbfounded by the toned up level of violence (not to mention the increasingly obnoxious performance by Mrs. Speilberg as the female lead) and gross-out moments so to speak (e.g. the now infamous beating heart sequence and the diner scene) which helped inspire the creation of the PG-13 rating.
*Back to the Future Part II:
Even though I personally though this one was more original than the more valued third one (even though it sure as hell can't stand alone due to its tired western set-up and need to keep on referencing moments from Part II), the best guess that I could come up with is that some folks were simply pissed off over the sudden cop out ending which was if anything an excuse to advertise Part III.
*Batman Forever:
To be honest with you, I'm somewhat partial to this because I absolutely can't stand the vibe that Tim Burton and his seemingly growing ego created in "Batman Returns." With that being said, there has to be some sort of "guilt by association" (do in part because of the Joel Schumacher influence spreading) ordeal going on because of the pounding that "Batman & Robin" got.
*Titanic:
1. We all starting to get sick of having to hear Celine Dion & "My Heart Will Go On" being played to ad nauseum. The worst was when radio stations decided to include actual sound bytes from the movie.
2. Mr. Tree Hugger Leonardo DiCaprio was practically being pushed to the moon as "the next big thing" by the media (especially when Oscar time came).
3. The sad fact that a real life tragedy was one way or another was taken for granted and/or exploited w/ all of the endingless "I'm the king of the world!!!" resets and the "Heart of the Ocean" amulet actually being put on sale.
*The Phantom Menace: The Jar Jar Binks factor obviously has to come into play somewhere as does the belief that Lucas & company fooled around way too much w/ the CGI while pandering hard to the "kiddie crowd" (hence Jar Jar being brought up again).
*Charlie's Angels:
I'll admit that part of this is based on personal opinions (don't expect me to tell you to "not take it seriously" or "leave your brain at the door") but that can't be the whole story is it!? Anyway, I seriously want to suggest that some of us were getting really fed up and turn off by the fact that the stars were pathetically trying to sugar coat the very troubled and clueless production (e.g. Lucy Liu fueding w/ Bill Murray) by acting all giddy and holding hands during interviews. If it wasn't that, then it was Drew Barrymore shoving her relationship w/ that bloak Tom "The One Nut Wonder" Green and her anti gun agenda down our throats to go along w/ the ad nauseum level of hype in general for a TV-based movie that most of the target audience either weren't born or were too young to remember anyway!
*Armageddon:
Even though the movie went on to make somewhere around $200 million (we're speaking on a domestic level by the way) the first thing that critics seemed to ways make target practice out of was Michael Bay's hyper-active directing style and little else.
*Mission: Impossible:
Remember all of the "This movie is confusing" rants!? So when it came time to make the more pure action minded sequel, we were frequently given moments of "de-masking." If that isn't a case of dumbing things down a great deal then I sure as hell don't know what is.
*Scary Movie:
Perhaps some people simply looked at many of the often recycled gags on "face value" because of the gross out aspects (which can probably help shed some light on why the sequel was a relative failure). People figured that it was a bit pointless for a "spoof" on comptempary slasher/horror movies when we had semi-serious "Scream" even though that movie was even more self-important and pretentious then "Scary Movie" ever set out to be.
:confused:
:rolleyes: