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joan davis fan
04-12-2002, 12:21 PM
I was watching the news the other night. This happened in a town not far from where I live.

A 17 year old boy ( senior in high school ) played football, already got accepted in college, was a straight A student, had a part time job, parents well known in the community ( both work for the local school district ) .

Last week one night about 1am, this boy for some reason sneaked out of the house. Was driving down a road in one of the many neighborhoods in the area. Noticed a house was dark, stopped his car and got out and for some reason decided to break in the house. He did NOT know the man and woman and their 5 year old son who lived in the house.

After spending several minutes drinking beer and vodka, he discovered the sleeping husband in bed ( the wife was somewhere else in the house ). He tied the husband up and when the wife saw the strange boy , he too tied her up ( after he chased her ).

Then according to tv, he turned on the stereo in the bedroom and blasted the tune by Linkin Park called "In the End". As he was singing along he stabbed the husband to death ( he was stabbed well over 10 times ) and he then stabbed the wife several times too. All the while the boy kept singing "In the End in doesnt even matter ".

The wife somehow managed to escape ( she survived by the way but is still in the hospital in that town ). The little boy stayed in his bedroom in his closet because he was scared of the loud music.
That may have saved his life.

The wife called 911 and within minutes the county sheriff arrived and arrested the boy. The only thing the boy kept saying was the lyrics from the Linkin Park song, didnt say nothing but the entire time he did this horrible act. This according to the local tv news here.

Of course the entire town of 30,000 was shocked over this but it has rasied a debate about how the media's influence over kids. In other words many many folks blame Linkin Park as much as the young man himself over this death. According to this boy's parents their son ONLY listened to 2 songs all the time. Over and over and over again with "in the End" being on of the time. In a composition to school he called the band his "heros". Even got tattooed just like some of the members Linkin Park.

Already many of the local parents got the local rock station there to stop playing "In the End" and POD's "youth of the Nation" the other song the boy was heavily into. However efforts to get "fey" the local music store there to stop selling those songs- that didnt happened.

Much has been said over the years about how much the media has influence over kids, but I just dont see how a single song can drive a young man into doing such an act like murder.

This reminds me of the Judas Priest case years ago. 2 young guys spent an afternoon smoking pot, doing other drugs and such while listening to a Judas Priest album. Went someplace , pulled a gun and shot themselves in the head. One died while the other died years later- he was disfigured as a result. The parents of both boys blamed the band and later on tried to actually sue Judas priest for causing the death. Of course what the parents didnt say at first, that both boys had histories of drug problems, one I remember reading tried to kill himself a few times in the past and spent time in mental hosptials. No wonder Judas Preist got off the hook.

It always gets me whenever a child does wrong a lot of times the parents blame everyone and everything but themsleves and their child. If a child does drugs, steals whatever, beats up others but just happens to be a fan of Garth Brooks ( an example ) to blame Garth Brooks , to me thats nonsense !!!

Bootsy Whoosh
04-12-2002, 12:32 PM
I agree with you joan davis fan. A single song alone CANNOT drive someone over the edge. If that were the case it'd be very dangerous to listen to the radio and the government would have done something about it long ago! I believe that a song may make someone crack or break down, but they already have alot of problems in the first place; the music didn't cause them.

It sickens me when people avoid addressing the REAL issue and look to the media for scapegoats. It only creates more problems, and doesn't solve any.

Mossopp
04-12-2002, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Bootsy Whoosh

It sickens me when people avoid addressing the REAL issue and look to the media for scapegoats. It only creates more problems, and doesn't solve any.

Exactly. When people try to blame a certain song or band whenever something goes wrong with the kids, it's just dodging the real issue. As a matter of fact I'm lstening to 'Youth of The Nation' right at this very minute and I feel no need to go and commit homicide because of it.
Parents think that they can just stick their heads in the sand when it comes to the problems that their children are facing - it's like they don't wanna deal with it themselves so they blame the music their kids listen to or the movies they watch. I have experienced this kind of parental behaviour first-hand. I was pretty messed-up when I was a young teenager. I was angry at everything and everyone and I didn't know why. My parents weren't exactly attentive towards me. They thought I just wanted to make life difficult for them. I was really depressed, I used to cut myself and I ended up developing an eating disorder. When my mother found out I'd been cutting myself she grounded me. She wouldn't let me see my friends, I couldn't use the phone, I wasn't allowed to watch TV (cos it was "a bad influence") and she took the hi-fi out of my room cos she thought that bands like Alice In Chains and Joy Division were putting "bad ideas" in my head.
Not once did either of my parents ask me what was really wrong. Not once was I asked if there was anything they could do to help. Not once was I even given a chance to explain myself. They just blamed the TV and the bands I listened to and, as far as they were concerned, that was the end of the matter.
That is how tradgedies like Columbine and this incident that Joan Davis fan described happen. And, in a way, I can actually understand why some kids would behave in this way. In a way, my parents were actually lucky - instead of cutting myself I could've taken a knife and gone out and stabbed someone else to death.
One song isn't gonna just turn a healthy, well-adjusted teenager into a murderer. That teen has to have some underlying emotional problems and untill we deal with those problems things like this are gonna keep happening.

DarleneIllyria
04-12-2002, 10:48 PM
I've had it up to here with people placing blame on music and tv because somebody goes a little off the deep end. The dude apparently had some issues in his head, and that is the main reason he acted the way he did. It's not because of a song that talks about suicide, or murder, or homicide. That is just a bunch of BS. People are always willing to point fingers at another person, but can't turn that finger around and point at themselves.

Case in point: I don't know how many of you've watched the cartoon Beavis and Butthead. Beavis had a little obsession with fire and it caused this big uproar. They toned down B & B a lot after the case happened. This little boy had burnt down his house and of course the mother thought Beavis and Butthead were to blame. (Okay, just where was mommy dearest when the little boy played with matches :rolleyes:

I agree with the post that talked about the scapegoat. Society will start to improve when we stop pointing fingers at others that had no dealings with our issues. I seriously doubt people will ever learn to stop throwing flames into the fire, and blaming things that have nothing to do with the issue.

AllIWantIsYourClutch
04-12-2002, 11:20 PM
I agree too.

Like the whole Pro Wrestling thing a few years ago. These kids beat the crap outta each other and started doing wrestling moves and everyone blamed the pro wrestling people. Did it ever occur to them that the kids are just violent and wrong in the head?

And one time this kid's mom was on Sally or something and she was talking about Eminem's music and how it's making her son think that it's okay to go kill his wife when he gets older. Now, come on people. Seriously....Do you really think 30 years from now the kids gonna be saying "Oh well that Eminem guy I listened to 30 years ago said I could kill my wife, so i think i will." NO! He wont say that! Perfectly sane people listen to that kinda music. (Like me :D)

Plata
04-14-2002, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Jenny
I've had it up to here with people placing blame on music and tv because somebody goes a little off the deep end. The dude apparently had some issues in his head, and that is the main reason he acted the way he did. It's not because of a song that talks about suicide, or murder, or homicide. That is just a bunch of BS. People are always willing to point fingers at another person, but can't turn that finger around and point at themselves.


I totally agree with you, Jenny. It's not what is said in the song, it's how people percieve what they hear in the song and how they choose to act. Instead of parents blaming the media, they should talk to their kids who are the source of the problem in the first place and find a way to deal with it from there.