Why Is It So Hard To Get A Job?

[isiahthomas]

I read a recent newspaper article that college graduates are having a hard time finding a job and a lot of them blame Barack Obama. I feel bad for them because the reason why people go to college is so they can get a job in the industry they studied and it does help to have a college degree so you can get a good job. I read that the unemployment rate for black men college graduates is 24%. Wow that's messed up. I know the unemployment rate for white men college graduates is much less than that. The article says also that it's wrong to tell black men they should go to college because they end up having a hard time getting a job. I'm glad i got 2 jobs because i've been unemployed before and it's no fun being broke. I like having money and when i was unemployed, i thought about committing suicide because i got tired of applying for jobs and nobody was calling me. I like my jobs and i do janitorial work. I don't know why people look down on janitors and diss them. Somebody has to do that work and it's a job. The pay may not be good for a janitor but some places pay good for janitorial work. The money i'm making now for my fulltime job is the most money i've made since i've been working. The previous jobs i had paid minimum wage and i hated those jobs. Not only that but i also hated the ignorant black men i worked with. I finally got a job that i like my co-workers and most of them are hispanic. I don't get along with ignorant black men and they're always picking on me for no reason and i don't bother nobody.

[tiredmike59]

Jobs are not hard to get, but good ones are hard to find. As far as co-workers go, you will always find yourself working with some idiots. I had a job loading freezers and iceboxes on the back of trucks and had to work with two of the biggest loafers you ever saw. They were both over 6 feet and 200 Lbs but I ended up doing most of the lifting. One always claimed to have a bad back and the other one was always looking for an easy way to do things. He would say, " We cannot move this one because the axle on the dolly is bent " I would tell him to forget the dolly and help me heft the damn thing. I only worked there for one summer,The work didn't bother me, just those two did.

[isiahthomas]

You're right that good jobs are hard to get. I've had a lot of terrible jobs and i regret working at those places. I've worked at several factories and that type of work is the worst. The pay sucks and the work is hard. I've also worked for a beer company delivering beer and beverages and that work is hard too. I don't like hard labor jobs. I would rather get a office job wearing a dress shirt, dress pants, a tie, dress shoes.

[tiredmike59]

I am the opposite, I would rather work in a junkyard or dig ditches than wear fancy clothes and be cooped up in an office.

[IllinoisTVFan]

I know this feeling. I am looking for an office job in training and it's hard to find one. I have two degrees and for entry level I am too overqualified and for jobs in my field are competitive. Because I am skilled I can't go back to college. I can't do back breaking jobs that involve standing or lifting because I have arthritis as well.

[isiahthomas]

I don't understand why jobs won't hire people like yourself who are overqualified. If you've got experience for the job, what's the problem? It shouldn't matter that you're overqualified. That's bullsh*t to me that people who are overqualified can't get a job. I can't stand job supervisors especially white men supervisors. They're the worst. I think if there were more black supervisors than white supervisors, there wouldn't be so many unemployed blacks. IllinoisTVFan, are you white or hispanic? I see what you mean about hard labor jobs. Those jobs are terrible and i hate them. I will never do that type of work again.

[IllinoisTVFan]

I don't understand why jobs won't hire people like yourself who are overqualified. If you've got experience for the job, what's the problem? It shouldn't matter that you're overqualified. That's bullsh*t to me that people who are overqualified can't get a job. I can't stand job supervisors especially white men supervisors. They're the worst. I think if there were more black supervisors than white supervisors, there wouldn't be so many unemployed blacks. IllinoisTVFan, are you white or hispanic? I see what you mean about hard labor jobs. Those jobs are terrible and i hate them. I will never do that type of work again.

I'm white, but female which often works against me. I asked a few places why they don't hire what they consider overqualified and a few were blunt and said I'd get bore which means of course they are fearful I'd take over from them. In low skilled jobs people are fearful some more qualified will steal their job. Another excuse is that I would quit as soon as a better job comes around but wouldn't everyone? When I was a teen or in college most retail and restaurant jobs were to me temporary anyway.

[LUNCH]

Why is it so hard to get a job?Outsourcing and the internet are two big reasons.Something could easily and should be done about outsourcing.I don't know what could be done about the internet however.I heard even travel agencies are having a tough time because of the internet.

[IllinoisTVFan]

Outsourcing and visaed workers are part of the problem I am having. I happen to know several jobs I interviewed for went to visaed workers. Those at the highly skilled managerial skills (this is me)are competiting against both outsourcing and visas.

[isiahthomas]

What's outsourcing? Lunch, why would you blame the internet for people being unemployed? I blame white men supervisors for a lot of blacks being unemployed. IllinoisTVFan, sorry to see you're struggling to find a job. How long have you been unemployed? I'm surprised you don't have a job since you're a white woman. I thought it would be easy for white women to get a job.

[IllinoisTVFan]

What's outsourcing? Lunch, why would you blame the internet for people being unemployed? I blame white men supervisors for a lot of blacks being unemployed. IllinoisTVFan, sorry to see you're struggling to find a job. How long have you been unemployed? I'm surprised you don't have a job since you're a white woman. I thought it would be easy for white women to get a job.

Thanks, eventually I will find something but it is hard. Unfortunately a lot of the white male managers prefer other white males. The reason outsourcing ruined a lot of jobs is because now companies can send jobs overseas. The internet changed a lot for the better but it also was able to combine various jobs into one. For instance, at most companies they had a secretary but now with computer programs anyone can do these jobs. Same with graphics and many others.

[isiahthomas]

I see what you mean about outsourcing. There was a factory job i used to work at called Mr Coffee and the company moved overseas and a lot of employees lost their job. I was kinda upset that i had to lose the job because i liked working there. When the building became vacant and another company moved in called Dirt Devil, i worked there for a little while unloading trucks and there was a couple of ignorant black guys that got on my nerves and i quit. I don't get along with ignorant black men and i don't like being around them because they're always picking on me for no reason. I don't bother nobody. I quit a couple of jobs before because of ignorant black men bothering me. My fulltime job i have now is the first time i've worked with more hispanics and whites than blacks and i love it because like i said, i don't get along with ignorant black men.

[IllinoisTVFan]

Plus notice how companies nowadays want their 'customers' to do almost everything on the internet.You call a company and often you hear some BS automated message saying something like, 'feel free to do use our internet site'.That's another way they hire alot less people.Companies want YOU to do THEIR work for them and pay them for the priviladge at the same time.

Yep noticed this. I have called on various computer issues to have them tell me to look online. Great but what if I am having problems getting online?

[LUNCH]

Yep noticed this. I have called on various computer issues to have them tell me to look online. Great but what if I am having problems getting online?
Yeah,and the person telling you this is often located in India or somewhere in the third world.That was never the case 15+ years ago.

[isiahthomas]

I also can't stand jobs that fire people that are good workers just because they feel like it. My dad recently lost his job a few months ago and he told me they forced him out because he wouldn't take a test that they wanted him to take. He said he took it before and he passed it. He said he wasn't gonna take it again because he said he thinks they were gonna make the test harder so he could fail it and not keep his job. Now he's trying to get a unemployment check and he can't get it because he said he's having a problem trying to fill out the questions on the internet at the employment website.

[Reverend Jim]

Jobs are not hard to get, but good ones are hard to find. As far as co-workers go, you will always find yourself working with some idiots. I had a job loading freezers and iceboxes on the back of trucks and had to work with two of the biggest loafers you ever saw. They were both over 6 feet and 200 Lbs but I ended up doing most of the lifting. One always claimed to have a bad back and the other one was always looking for an easy way to do things. He would say, " We cannot move this one because the axle on the dolly is bent " I would tell him to forget the dolly and help me heft the damn thing. I only worked there for one summer,The work didn't bother me, just those two did.
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[IllinoisTVFan]

Yeah,and the person telling you this is often located in India or somewhere in the third world.That was never the case 15+ years ago.

I hate that. I had an Indian call me lazy because I can't pay a bill. I would be able to if I had a job. Yet because of outsourcing many of us are unemployed.

[MrCleveland]

I hate that. I had an Indian call me lazy because I can't pay a bill. I would be able to if I had a job. Yet because of outsourcing many of us are unemployed.

I had to call an Asian Indian for help of a wireless, and he couldn't understand a damn word I said, I had to repeat myself...which I hate doing!

(I Think) Asian Indians feel that they're better than everyone else because of the damn Caste System!

[Reverend Jim]

I am the opposite, I would rather work in a junkyard or dig ditches than wear fancy clothes and be cooped up in an office.
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[IllinoisTVFan]

I had to call an Asian Indian for help of a wireless, and he couldn't understand a damn word I said, I had to repeat myself...which I hate doing! (I Think) Asian Indians feel that they're better than everyone else because of the damn Caste System!

I think so too. The ones I've dealt with had that attitude.

[LUNCH]

How come they never outsource those phone jobs to other English speaking countries like England,New Zealand or Australia etc. I'd much rather speak to an Englishman or woman or an Aussie than someone from the third world.Oh wait they would have to pay them more than American workers and give them at least 6 weeks or 2 months of paid vacation too. Nevermind.

[IllinoisTVFan]

That's why, because Indians or the others work cheap. I will hang up on them when they call I despise this so much.

[Reverend Jim]

You're right that good jobs are hard to get. I've had a lot of terrible jobs and i regret working at those places. I've worked at several factories and that type of work is the worst. The pay sucks and the work is hard. I've also worked for a beer company delivering beer and beverages and that work is hard too. I don't like hard labor jobs. I would rather get a office job wearing a dress shirt, dress pants, a tie, dress shoes.
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[Reverend Jim]

I don't understand why jobs won't hire people like yourself who are overqualified. If you've got experience for the job, what's the problem? It shouldn't matter that you're overqualified. That's bullsh*t to me that people who are overqualified can't get a job. I can't stand job supervisors especially white men supervisors. They're the worst. I think if there were more black supervisors than white supervisors, there wouldn't be so many unemployed blacks. IllinoisTVFan, are you white or hispanic? I see what you mean about hard labor jobs. Those jobs are terrible and i hate them. I will never do that type of work again.
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[tiredmike59]

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Good advice Reverend Jim, I did work construction jobs, no cable installer though. I am old now, I still work on engines and air conditioners for friends and relatives. More as a hobby,but I still pick up a buck or two. I wouldn't be able to handle an 8 to 5 job anymore, I would crave a nap around lunch time.

[Reverend Jim]

How come they never outsource those phone jobs to other English speaking countries like England,New Zealand or Australia etc. I'd much rather speak to an Englishman or woman or an Aussie than someone from the third world.Oh wait they would have to pay them more than American workers and give them at least 6 weeks or 2 months of paid vacation too. Nevermind.
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[mets82]

You know its funny, I blogged about this on my blog site. Its especially frustrating now considering that the holidays are coming up. I hope I can post the link to my blog. If I cant, I'll take the link off.


http://superbowlgreatness.blogspot.com/2011/11/its-frustrating-trying-to-find-job.html

[IllinoisTVFan]

You know its funny, I blogged about this on my blog site. Its especially frustrating now considering that the holidays are coming up. I hope I can post the link to my blog. If I cant, I'll take the link off.


http://superbowlgreatness.blogspot.com/2011/11/its-frustrating-trying-to-find-job.html

Your blog is very well written. You are right, not even these jobs are available. Over 10 years ago I did overnight stocking, which is usually a decent job that requires little to no customer contact and late hours (which is why it usually pays better that most retail). I am applying to these jobs and am getting rejected left and right. I've applied for cashier jobs and still rejected.

[cleverfun3000]

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The key to Financial success is NOT waiting for someone to hire you, but instead finding out what it is that you do well that people are willing to PAY for and than marketing your service, skill or talent NATIONALLY to get customers and establish a client base.

[IllinoisTVFan]

That's great for some people, but many don't want to work for themselves. I'm personally looking into working for myself but my skills are often consulting type skills but other fields aren't.

[Reverend Jim]

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The key to Financial success is NOT waiting for someone to hire you, but instead finding out what it is that you do well that people are willing to PAY for and than marketing your service, skill or talent NATIONALLY to get customers and establish a client base.
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[Brad Russ]

Because it's impossible to get what isn't there, (and is hard to get what's in short supply.) You may have some luck if you move to China though. ;)

[Tubehead]

hey i worked as a janitor for three sumer when i was in high shcool it was at ymc camp it was ok job lots of nice chrisitan people their they let me have fun i liked it i got to listne to my music when i worked i hated clening the shower they get dirtyreally fast like two or three time i hated cleaing tolets to.

[KurtfromPitts]

Aside from a few days in '07 when I was in training at a now-closed restaurant I've had a rough time finding work.:(

[isiahthomas]

I wanna say to some of the idiots on here who don't agree with me for saying that white men supervisors are still discriminating against black men, i don't care if you don't agree with me. It's a shame a lot of ya'll white people aren't dealing with reality about why there's a lot of unemployed black men. I know a lot of ya'll wanna say black men are lazy and would rather sell drugs and rob and steal than get a job. I know there's some black men that would rather be a criminal than get a job but there's a lot of unemployed black men that want a job. The problem with unemployed black men that want a job is that they wanna get a lot of money instead of working for low pay. So that's why a lot of them don't take low paying jobs and i can't blame them for that. I think low paying jobs is slavery and i've worked several low paying jobs before and i hated them. It's a trip to me that ya'll white people who got nice homes and nice cars and good jobs don't give a damn about poor unemployed black men. Ya'll white people can sleep well every night and live comfortably in a nice neighborhood and don't have to worry about getting robbed and beat up for your material things.


White people say black men should go to college and get a education but getting a college degree isn't gonna guarantee them a job because whether ya'll wanna believe it or not, black men still get discriminated against by white men job supervisors. I read recently in the newspaper that black men college graduates are having a hard time getting a job. So tell me what's up with that? They go to college and still can't get a job. That's why i said if there were more black men supervisors that there wouldn't be a lot of unemployed black men. White people wonder why black men have to rob and steal and sell drugs to get money. What else are they supposed to do when they can't get a job? I'm not saying it's ok to be a criminal to get money when you can't get a job but that's what unemployed black men are gonna continue to do. Even if black men go to trade school to learn a job trade, they still aren't guaranteed to get a job. So i say f*ck white men job supervisors. I've been hired by a couple of white men supervisors. So i guess i'm one of the lucky black men to get a job.



White people need to listen to the rap songs Conspiracy by Gang Starr and If I Was White by Willie D. Go to Youtube if you're interested in hearing them and you'll see what i'm talking about. I also wanna say f*ck you to white people who criticize rap music saying all of it is negative because it's not. There's plenty of rappers who rap about racism, politics and positivity.

[IllinoisTVFan]

People may not want to face this, but there is discrimination of all kinds. I am a woman and have dealt with so much sexism in my working life and to pretend it doesn't happen is wrong. I have been asked if I plan to have kids and if so, will I stay home (I would not). I've been paid less than male coworkers for the same thing. I have a masters and this still happens.

[isiahthomas]

You're right that all types of discrimination exists in the workplace and it's really sad. I don't know if you've seen the movie North Country with Charlize Theron, Sissy Spacek, Woody Harrelson, Michelle Monaghan but i was disgusted with the sexual harrassment the white men workers did against the white women workers at the factory. I was glad Charlize won her lawsuit against her job. I know men feel like there's some jobs that women shouldn't do but it's not men's business to decide that. IllinoisTVFan, what kind of work are you interested in?

[IllinoisTVFan]

I haven't seen that movie, but harassment is still a sad fact of life. I worked in marketing and training (last full time job I developed training programs) and both of these jobs tend to not hire when the economy is bad because both often have an indirect connection to new hires.

[isiahthomas]

Check out North Country movie. It's very good. I love Charlize Theron. She's so hot. Another thing that saddens me about jobs now is that so many hispanics have taken a lot of jobs that blacks and whites won't do and i don't have a problem with that but my problem is that hispanics aren't paid well. White men supervisors would rather hire them than blacks because they figure hispanics are hard workers and they can pay them less than what blacks would want because they know blacks won't work for low pay. Just because hispanics take low paying jobs doesn't make it right that they should get paid minimum wage because that's slavery. I know slavery means doing work for free but working a low paying job might as well be slavery because people can't survive on a low paying job.

[isiahthomas]

Whatever. If asians don't like blacks, then they need to stop coming in blacks neighborhoods opening businesses so they can make money off blacks. Same thing with other foreigners like arabs who come to bad black neighborhoods and open businesses so they can make money off blacks.

[shotzette]

Whatever. If asians don't like blacks, then they need to stop coming in blacks neighborhoods opening businesses so they can make money off blacks. Same thing with other foreigners like arabs who come to bad black neighborhoods and open businesses so they can make money off blacks.

Using a racist attitude to defend your anti-racism views doesn't make you look too bright. I know plenty of people from all races who are looking for work and plenty of people from all races who are gainfully employed. The best way to guard against unemployment (and nothing is 100% effective) is to work hard, go the extra mile, take whatever specialized training you can get, and realize that we are all lucky to have jobs and that no one is obligated to hire anyone.

[isiahthomas]

You're right but taking a job training class and having a college degree doesn't guarantee a job. Black college graduates are having a hard time getting a job i read in the newspaper recently. Whites don't wanna admit this but discrimination still exists against black men when trying to get a job. Black women can get hired before black men can and that's a reality. I'm lucky i got 2 jobs because i've been unemployed before and i hated it because i like money. I even thought about suicide when i was unemployed and the only reason i'm alive now is because i'm afraid of guns. I was glad i moved to Maryland because the jobs here are better than the jobs in Cleveland. I can't stand hard labor jobs and there's too many factories and warehouses in Cleveland and those jobs suck. I would rather have a cleaning job which is what i'm doing now or a office job.