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ctgrumpybear
04-26-2011, 02:02 PM
This case has all most never got any big media to talk about it but this case is one of most sad case I have seen
http://doj.nh.gov/coldcaseunit/listing/allenstown.htm

Big3sCompanyFan
04-28-2011, 09:12 PM
This case has all most never got any big media to talk about it but this case is one of most sad case I have seen
http://doj.nh.gov/coldcaseunit/listing/allenstown.htm

Wow, that's amazing. Never seen that on AMW or UM or anywhere!

I wonder why?? You think maybe because they don't appear that attractive in the recreations?

I know that's horrible but media is VERY vain. We already know all about Missing (Pretty) White Woman Syndome.

sffan
05-20-2011, 09:43 PM
Wow, maybe if UM comes back with new episodes(One day...). This case needs publicity.

Big3sCompanyFan
05-22-2011, 11:43 AM
This case has all most never got any big media to talk about it but this case is one of most sad case I have seen
http://doj.nh.gov/coldcaseunit/listing/allenstown.htm

You think part of the reason is because it's way up in the corner of the country so the media figures not many would care?

I'm surprised AMW hasn't even profiled them since the profiled the McStay family.

Unfortunately now AMW has been executed although we still hope for a last minute reprieve! :(

Zlatko
05-23-2011, 08:03 PM
Can someone provide some background on this case? It appears the link has expired.

TracyLynnS
05-23-2011, 09:27 PM
EDIT: Found it, see below


Here's a list of NH unsolveds. I don't know which case this thread is about tho. I'm going to look through the cases on the DOJ site and see if I can figure it out.

http://doj.nh.gov/criminal/cold-case/victim-list/index.htm


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http://doj.nh.gov/criminal/cold-case/victim-list/allenstown.htm

Unidentified Female and Three Children - Allenstown


Year of Death or Disappearance: 1985/2000
City/Town: Allenstown
Status: Unsolved Homicide
Details:
On November 10, 1985 a hunter discovered the remains of an adult white female (23-33 years old) and a female child (8-10 years old) inside a 55 gallon metal drum in woods located in the Bear Brook Garden Trailer Park near 22 Edgewood Drive in Allenstown, NH.

On May 9, 2000 two more victims were found in the same vicinity. These victims were also in a metal drum. The third victim was a white female child (1-3 years old) and the fourth victim was also a white female child (4-8 years old). These two children are biologically related to the adult female and it is possible all four victims are related.

It is believed that the victims were killed sometime between 1977-1985. The deaths have all been ruled homicides, but the specific cause of death has not been released publicly.

ctgrumpybear
05-24-2011, 01:16 PM
http://www.wmur.com/news/19013578/detail.html

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/names-of-murdered-lost-over-decades?CSAuthResp=%3Asession%3ACSUserId%7CCSGroupId%3Aapproved%3ABA4A9537C4BF4594E11F4B09D8217743&CSUserId=94&CSGroupId=1

Orange_Sody_84
06-14-2011, 03:47 PM
There was a case from Ohio kind of like this from 2010. except the creep stuffed his victims (who were a missing mother & son & friend of the family) into a hollowed out tree stump after killing them. :(

fortunately one girl was found alive. she was 13 and was found bound and gagged in the creep's home. poor kid. :(

I really hope they find out more about the victims and who did it. so sick! :eek:

MariposaLKB
06-15-2011, 11:13 AM
There was a case from Ohio kind of like this from 2010. except the creep stuffed his victims (who were a missing mother & son & friend of the family) into a hollowed out tree stump after killing them. :(

fortunately one girl was found alive. she was 13 and was found bound and gagged in the creep's home. poor kid. :(

I really hope they find out more about the victims and who did it. so sick! :eek:

OMG I live in Ohio too and this was soooo horrible! My parents used to have a vacation home near where the victims lived and I heard the community mentioned many times in news reports. Having 2 teenage daughters (one the same age as the survivor) myself, I kept thinking about what might have happened if this pervert had ever come in contact with them!

Orange_Sody_84
06-16-2011, 02:02 PM
It's aweful... just aweful... the creep (from what I read) acted like he was treating the victim to a slumber party. I'm glad the cops got to her in time. he claims he just wanted to rob the place (puhlease!) but was spotted sleeping in the woods scoping out the house before the murders took place. also someone set the porch on fire after the crimes. some people believe he had an accomplice. because so many things about the timeline don't make sense. :(

ctgrumpybear
08-09-2011, 01:04 PM
http://oakhillresearch.blogspot.com/
this site give you more info on this case

ChrissySnow
12-21-2011, 10:56 PM
This is such a sad case, and it's appalling that it has received little to no media coverage.

welshman
02-11-2012, 03:19 PM
Didn't they search the area after finding the first two? the trooper who went back deserves most of the credit if the case is ever solved as it's at least doubled the chances of identifying them.

ctgrumpybear
05-11-2012, 12:31 PM
There a new twist on this case

this is form oak hill research

The results of the most recent DNA profiles of the victims show:


The adult victim is NOT the biological mother of any of the three child victims
The middle child (aged approximately 4-8 years old) is apparently NOT biologically related to the other three victims

welshman
05-11-2012, 02:57 PM
The only thing I think is the murderer was the father of the children except the mother cheated on him and didn't tell him he runs off with his girlfriend taking his children with him and when his money runs out kills them all or they were all from a commune.

ctgrumpybear
05-11-2012, 09:00 PM
DNA say The adult victim is NOT the biological mother of any of the three child victims but are related
The middle child is NOT biologically related to the other three victims

so the older jane doe was a aunt,sister or cousin of the two of the little girls

welshman
05-12-2012, 01:16 PM
Potentially the age gap between the youngest and oldest is only 20 years so the three could be siblings with a fostered child or adopted one killed as well.

ctgrumpybear
07-19-2012, 08:36 AM
here a facebook group about this case
http://www.facebook.com/#!/identify.victims

ctgrumpybear
02-14-2013, 08:43 PM
The NH State police will be taking this case to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children where they are putting thougher a team of the best national experts to review this case. they will be doing new dna test and build new profiles of the does in this case

TracyLynnS
06-14-2013, 05:54 PM
This article contains photos of composites that are slightly different than what's currently on the DOJ website I posted on the first page:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341873/Do-know-family-Police-use-3D-models-reconstruct-faces-woman-young-girls-stuffed-barrels-New-Hampshire-woods-30-years-ago.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/14/article-2341873-1A531A16000005DC-665_306x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/14/article-2341873-1A531A22000005DC-133_306x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/14/article-2341873-1A531A1E000005DC-782_306x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/14/article-2341873-1A531C4B000005DC-879_306x423.jpg

TracyLynnS
06-15-2013, 01:13 PM
In the article above, they are now saying that the woman is either the aunt or mother of the 3 children and they do believe all four are related.

If the reconstructions are any indication, it seems obvious they are all related and look like mother and children. The woman has very distinctive teeth and the children's teeth all seem to be similar, considering their varying ages.

One thing I thought was interesting, the police think they died between 1977 and 1985. The oldest girl has double piercings in her ears, which was reported as "odd considering her age" (5-10 years old).

IMO, this is a good indication of when they were killed. Double ear piercings became very popular in the early 1980s and by 1984, I had 3 in each ear.

Does anyone remember if multiple piercings were popular before then? I was 10 years old in 1977 and had single piercings then. I didn't know anyone with more than one piercing at that time. That's one reason I think this family was killed probably between 1981 and 1985.

ctgrumpybear
06-18-2013, 12:33 PM
if some best info on this case go to
http://oakhillresearch.blogspot.com