Irene's Husband "FRANK" was so annoying

[TVFactFan]

Damm, I can't stomach this man when watching this show on ANTENNA TV. All that singing and dancing around was just so unecessary. Glad he wasn't on the show long

[MikeL]

actually think her name was Irene but i agre i could not stomach him either one of the worst charactors on the show

[Brian Damage]

I actually did not like either one of the Lorenzos. Both weak characters if you ask me.

[TVFactFan]

I actually did not like either one of the Lorenzos. Both weak characters if you ask me.

Irene wasn't able to shine due to CRAZY FRANK

[MikeL]

that true im glad he left his singing was bad enough to turn the channell or mute the television she did much better once he was gone i liked her better then frank.

[Brian Damage]

Irene wasn't able to shine due to CRAZY FRANK

She had her opportunity after he left the show. She wasn't all that good IMO

[dakert]

I liked Frank and Irene and wished they were on longer

[Retro4Life]

Yeah, Irene had some good moments but overall they were kind of a bust. Frank was over the top with the "modern male" routine, which I am sure was to create a contrast with Archie's traditional role.

The one thing that was kind of hard to swallow was how much Edith liked Irene, even though she continually was cruel and rude to Archie. I mean, yes, Mike was rude too but at least Mike was in the family and did live there and had to put up with Archie's insults, but Irene would come right into Archie's home and blast him. I didn't expect Edith to kick her out but she could have at least said "Oh, now, Irene, that's just Archie" or stuck up for him just a bit.

[Brian Damage]

Yeah, Irene had some good moments but overall they were kind of a bust. Frank was over the top with the "modern male" routine, which I am sure was to create a contrast with Archie's traditional role.

The one thing that was kind of hard to swallow was how much Edith liked Irene, even though she continually was cruel and rude to Archie. I mean, yes, Mike was rude too but at least Mike was in the family and did live there and had to put up with Archie's insults, but Irene would come right into Archie's home and blast him. I didn't expect Edith to kick her out but she could have at least said "Oh, now, Irene, that's just Archie" or stuck up for him just a bit.


Agreed! Well said

[OH Nuts!]

Both characters (Irene and Frank) were a little overdone if you ask me. But they were OK. My take on Irene was she only gave Archie what she got. Frank could be a little whiney - like when his vichysoise didn't pucker lol. I could have lived without them (and so could the show) -but the most annoying character of all to me was the Meathead. I suppose he was necessary though.

[cleverfun3000]

When the show originally aired, I used to think that Frank Lorenzo was gay. He was just a little to over the top with his swishy emotions over little things and his constant dancing and singing. I figured it was an arranged marriage of companionship and convenience. Anyone else thinks that Frank was a closet gay?

[TVFactFan]

When the show originally aired, I used to think that Frank Lorenzo was gay. He was just a little to over the top with his swishy emotions over little things and his constant dancing and singing. I figured it was an arranged marriage of companionship and convenience. Anyone else thinks that Frank was a closet gay?


Bi-sexual LOL

[Frump]

I don't think Frank's modern male character was created as a contrast to Archie's traditional role, I think it was created to contrast Irene's MODERN WOMAN character.

I think the point of Frank and Irene was to show a husband and wife in opposite, untraditional roles, in a role reversal, which we all know is the worst thing in the world, and a feminine man is absolutly the worst thing in the world. :rolleyes:

[Johnny be good!]

Frank always made me laugh.

[tviewer]

Damm, I can't stomach this man when watching this show on ANTENNA TV. All that singing and dancing around was just so unecessary. Glad he wasn't on the show long

That's why Vincent Gardenia asked to be let out of the show. And O'Connor is quoted in his interview with the Archive of American Television saying that Vince felt it would ruin his career. O'Connor actually felt he was right in also saying that Irene was an empty character but Frank was a minus factor who sapped the strength of the show.

[lucyandethel]

They added the Frank and Irene characters because The Jeffersons were leaving for their own series. It didn't work. Gardenia left because he complained that his character was pointless. They gradually phased Betty Garrett out and then she left for "Laverne & Shirley" but I think she was off AITF before L&S.

Just thought....Betty Garrett starred in two No. 1 sitcoms. I wonder what other actors hold that record. Not many.

[LittleRickyII]

Just thought....Betty Garrett starred in two No. 1 sitcoms. I wonder what other actors hold that record. Not many.

Well, Ron Howard is another. But besides those two, I'm at a loss. :)

[TVFactFan]

They added the Frank and Irene characters because The Jeffersons were leaving for their own series. It didn't work. Gardenia left because he complained that his character was pointless. They gradually phased Betty Garrett out and then she left for "Laverne & Shirley" but I think she was off AITF before L&S.

Just thought....Betty Garrett starred in two No. 1 sitcoms. I wonder what other actors hold that record. Not many.


WRONG, the Lorenzos were added in 1973, which was two years before the Jeffersons left the series.

[TVFactFan]

They added the Frank and Irene characters because The Jeffersons were leaving for their own series. It didn't work. Gardenia left because he complained that his character was pointless. They gradually phased Betty Garrett out and then she left for "Laverne & Shirley" but I think she was off AITF before L&S.

Just thought....Betty Garrett starred in two No. 1 sitcoms. I wonder what other actors hold that record. Not many.

Correction, she was an ocassional character on two number 1 sitcoms. She was not a main character on either show so she didn't STAR in anything

[lucyandethel]

WRONG, the Lorenzos were added in 1973, which was two years before the Jeffersons left the series.
The Jeffersons series was in the works before it became official in 1974 and premiered in 1975. They wanted to gradually fade the new characters in but it didn't work.

[TVFactFan]

The Jeffersons series was in the works before it became official in 1974 and premiered in 1975. They wanted to gradually fade the new characters in but it didn't work.


The Lorenzos appeared before George so how was the series in the works?

[gymnastlover]

That's why Vincent Gardenia asked to be let out of the show. And O'Connor is quoted in his interview with the Archive of American Television saying that Vince felt it would ruin his career. O'Connor actually felt he was right in also saying that Irene was an empty character but Frank was a minus factor who sapped the strength of the show.

Good bit of info thanks, I never heard that stuff before. And although I didnt mind Frank for the most part, when the singing would start it was tough to take even though didnt last long--just annoying.

I did like him alot in the episode where they are all playing the board game and Mike just goes nuts on everyone. Thought he was really good in that one.