hugely revised "never aired on lifetime" list

[wiseguy182]

Quite a few additions since my previous list. I also decided to categorize them for easy reference, and, for those really rare ones that are not floating about, I have provided links with additional information. and away we go.

segments that floated about amongst collectors

Pre-Stack Specials

Wanda Jean Mays
Donald Kemp
Roger Wheeler/Jai Alai murder
John Burns
Pat Mealbach
Terry Conner & Joseph Daughetery
Kyra Cook
Rolex Robbers
Robert Weeks (both segment & update)
Unabomber
Jack Lutter
George Marsh
Glen Consagra

Stack hosted

Tony Alamo
Billy Hargrove & Mike Carmichael
Eric & Pam Ellender
Roxanne Jeeves
"Debby"
Rogest Cain
Doyle Wheeler
Missy Munday & Jerry Strickland
Lester Garnier
Melvine Aprille
Grocery robbers
Poloma Martin
Charles Horvath
Home Improvement scam
Gulf Breeze UFO's
Robert Leeds
Noreen Renier
John Roubas
Grandpa bandit/Milk carton bandit
Rohrey Wychgel
Mario Armado
Robert Stack profiles 10 missing person cases
Michael Fagen
Bo Tanner
Scott Hill
Walter Wenke & Ronald Enzlo
Drug traffickers that used a cellphone shop as a front
cyberstalkers
CW Roddy (partial segment)
Nevada wild horses update
Dr. Browning earthquake predictions
Lancaster exortion letters
Travis Wade Duncan
Kari Lynn Nixon update: speculated sighting at NKOTB concert.
Jane Doe hit and run victim (aired as part of 5th season premiere along with man who fell from wing of an airplane)
quick profiles of child molestors that aired at end of David McLeod segment
James Vernon
Miriam
Jim Fontes
Avery James Norris
reverse sting operation
Bird Road rapist
Kay Beeman
Mcdonald's shooting
coma victim "John"
Walter Rice
Phyllis Strub
Andre Jones
Tyrone Theiss/Shannon Smith
Diane Brodbeck/John Yount
Lavar Bates
RS mentions earthquakes in SoCal
updated on David Ivey and sons being found

the following stories aired only once at 2 a.m.

Tara Calico
Keith Reinhard

the following story aired only in the early 90's

Bonnie Wilder

the following stories either had only portions that made it to lifetime, or made it to lifetime but received substantial edits

live from the telecenter
3rd anniversary special
Alcatraz special
Dorothy Allison

the following segments haven't been floated around much, but wiseguy has these available for trading

Susan Kennedy
JonBenet Ramsey
CW Roddy (full segment)
Final Appeal: Paul Ferrell
Final Appeal: Don Montecalvo

Marilu Geri

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=239124&highlight=marilu+geri

Marlena Childress

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=218554&page=2&highlight=marlena+childress

full segment of Tara Calico with quickie profiles of other missing children including Leticia Hernandez

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=217143&highlight=leticia

Janet O'Regan

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=258423&highlight=janet+o%27regan

shopping bag bandits and other bandits

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=258352&highlight=shopping+bag+bandits

the following segments are believed not to be in the possesion of anyone in this community or the trading forums.

Todd Mcaffee

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=203854&highlight=todd+mcaffee

Ed Barbara

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=206591&highlight=barbar

David Rhodes

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=194417&highlight=unaired

John Purvis (full segment version), Tony Miller and other Final Appeal cases
Jackie Cooper
lost love story about a German man looking for his sister
various FBI alerts (hard to get a good assessment of this one as there are numerous ones)

Marisa Maugeri

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=163557&highlight=marisa+maugeri

Debi Whitlock

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=237034

mini dinosaur

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=113088

the following segment was filmed but never aired on any network

Sharon Davis

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/davis_sharon.html

if you have any additions or corrections, please feel free to let me know.

[wiseguy182]

well it should be noted that there could be others out there. Who ever heard of Walter Rice, Phyllis Strub or the Mcdonald's shooting, before those segments surfaced. It's fun to fantasize about.

[Dinahcat1]

I know the actress who played the role of Wanda Jean Mays. She was in Wanda's aunt and uncle's house, and the aunt (or mother) took her in Wanda's room and showed her Wanda's jewelry and clothes layed out. She drank coffee at the kitchen counter with the uncle. It was quite an experience, and one she's looked back at a lot with questions over the years.

[MegtheEgg86]

Quite a few additions since my previous list. I also decided to categorize them for easy reference, and, for those really rare ones that are not floating about, I have provided links with additional information. and away we go.

segments that floated about amongst collectors

Pre-Stack Specials

Wanda Jean Mays
Donald Kemp
Roger Wheeler/Jai Alai murder
John Burns
Pat Mealbach
Terry Conner & Joseph Daughetery
Kyra Cook
Rolex Robbers
Robert Weeks (both segment & update)
Unabomber
Jack Lutter
George Marsh
Glen Consagra

Stack hosted

Tony Alamo
Billy Hargrove & Mike Carmichael
Eric & Pam Ellender
Roxanne Jeeves
"Debby"
Rogest Cain
Doyle Wheeler
Missy Munday & Jerry Strickland
Lester Garnier
Melvine Aprille
Grocery robbers
Poloma Martin
Charles Horvath
Home Improvement scam
Gulf Breeze UFO's
Robert Leeds
Noreen Renier
John Roubas
Grandpa bandit/Milk carton bandit
Rohrey Wychgel
Mario Armado
Robert Stack profiles 10 missing person cases
Michael Fagen
Bo Tanner
Scott Hill
Walter Wenke & Ronald Enzlo
Drug traffickers that used a cellphone shop as a front
cyberstalkers
CW Roddy (partial segment)
Nevada wild horses update
Dr. Browning earthquake predictions
Lancaster exortion letters
Travis Wade Duncan
Kari Lynn Nixon update: speculated sighting at NKOTB concert.
Jane Doe hit and run victim (aired as part of 5th season premiere along with man who fell from wing of an airplane)
quick profiles of child molestors that aired at end of David McLeod segment
James Vernon
Miriam
Jim Fontes
Avery James Norris
reverse sting operation
Bird Road rapist
Kay Beeman
Mcdonald's shooting
coma victim "John"
Walter Rice
Phyllis Strub
Andre Jones
Tyrone Theiss/Shannon Smith
Diane Brodbeck/John Yount
Lavar Bates
RS mentions earthquakes in SoCal
updated on David Ivey and sons being found

the following stories aired only once at 2 a.m.

Tara Calico
Keith Reinhard

the following story aired only in the early 90's

Bonnie Wilder

the following stories either had only portions that made it to lifetime, or made it to lifetime but received substantial edits

live from the telecenter
3rd anniversary special
Alcatraz special
Dorothy Allison

the following segments haven't been floated around much, but wiseguy has these available for trading

Susan Kennedy
JonBenet Ramsey
CW Roddy (full segment)
Final Appeal: Paul Ferrell
Final Appeal: Don Montecalvo

the following segments are currently being hoarded by a member of this community

Marilu Geri

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=239124&highlight=marilu+geri

Marlena Childress

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=218554&page=2&highlight=marlena+childress

full segment of Tara Calico with quickie profiles of other missing children including Leticia Hernandez

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=217143&highlight=leticia

Janet O'Regan

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=258423&highlight=janet+o%27regan

shopping bag bandits and other bandits

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=258352&highlight=shopping+bag+bandits

the following segments are believed not to be in the possesion of anyone in this community or the trading forums.

Todd Mcaffee

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=203854&highlight=todd+mcaffee

Ed Barbara

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=206591&highlight=barbar

David Rhodes

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=194417&highlight=unaired

John Purvis, Tony Miller and other Final Appeal cases
Jackie Cooper
lost love story about a German man looking for his sister
various FBI alerts (hard to get a good assessment of this one as there are numerous ones)

Marisa Maugeri

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=163557&highlight=marisa+maugeri

Debi Whitlock

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=237034

mini dinosaur

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=113088

the following segment was filmed but never aired on any network

Sharon Davis

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/davis_sharon.html

if you have any additions or corrections, please feel free to let me know.


Very interesting story about the Sharon Davis segment. I wonder what on earth was said in that letter.


Also, I thought someone had John Purvis. It's definitely on the site that cannot be named, although I'm pretty clueless as to where it originated.

[wiseguy182]

Also, I thought someone had John Purvis. It's definitely on the site that cannot be named, although I'm pretty clueless as to where it originated.

Good catch. I meant to say, the full segment. The update did make it to Lifetime. I'm a bit baffled why they would air an update to a case they never aired, but I guess something is better than nothing. I will make the appropriate correction.

[justins5256]

My theory on the John Purvis case is that they were preparing a segment for the spin-off series "Final Appeal" on Purvis but "Final Appeal" got axed before they had a chance to air his story. However, there were some pretty significant developments in the case around that time including the arrests of Paul Serio and Paul Hamwii. So, they did not air a full segment on Purvis, but gave us a mini-story and an update on his release.

Several stories that were supposed to air on "Final Appeal" were aired on UM later that season after FA's cancellation. Examples include Luis Diaz and Rolando Cruz (definitely) and possibly Rick McCue and Michael Lloyd Self. The Thomas Drake story was supposed to be recycled into a UM episode but never made it. In fact, the Spike airing may be the first time Drake's story was ever televised.

[crystaldawn]

My theory on the John Purvis case is that they were preparing a segment for the spin-off series "Final Appeal" on Purvis but "Final Appeal" got axed before they had a chance to air his story. However, there were some pretty significant developments in the case around that time including the arrests of Paul Serio and Paul Hamwii. So, they did not air a full segment on Purvis, but gave us a mini-story and an update on his release.

Several stories that were supposed to air on "Final Appeal" were aired on UM later that season after FA's cancellation. Examples include Luis Diaz and Rolando Cruz (definitely) and possibly Rick McCue and Michael Lloyd Self. The Thomas Drake story was supposed to be recycled into a UM episode but never made it. In fact, the Spike airing may be the first time Drake's story was ever televised.

That makes sense about Purvis. I guess Cosgrove Meurer was quite optimistic about "Final Appeal" in selecting all those stories to air when the show about a month or so if I remember correctly.

JS did you see my post from a few months back where I mentioned Spike actually aired the entire (well I'm sure some editing was done) Tony Miller segment? It was very interesting to see the whole story unfold.

[justins5256]

JS did you see my post from a few months back where I mentioned Spike actually aired the entire (well I'm sure some editing was done) Tony Miller segment? It was very interesting to see the whole story unfold.

Yes, I heard that it was on. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see it, as I can never remember when the new UMs are playing so I seldom catch them. What were your thoughts? Did you believe he was innocent?

I found some articles online indicating that another man confessed to some of the robberies at the time. Also, the robbery allegedly committed by Tony Miller fit the MO of the other robberies this guy confessed to. I can't recall if he confessed to that specific robbery, but I thought the article indicated that he didn't, probably because a police officer was shot.

[crystaldawn]

Yes, I heard that it was on. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see it, as I can never remember when the new UMs are playing so I seldom catch them. What were your thoughts? Did you believe he was innocent?

I found some articles online indicating that another man confessed to some of the robberies at the time. Also, the robbery allegedly committed by Tony Miller fit the MO of the other robberies this guy confessed to. I can't recall if he confessed to that specific robbery, but I thought the article indicated that he didn't, probably because a police officer was shot.

Well I wish I remembered more of it to tell you but its been a while. I saved it to my dvr but then had to get the box replaced so lost it. I'm sure it will air again just have no idea when. I do think he's innocent and pretty much always have. I wonder what he's doing today.

You should just dvr all the UM's on Spike like I do. You can tell by the beginning if its something you want to watch. They are starting to air some "new" ones on June 2nd I think at 2 am central if you care.

[justins5256]

Well I wish I remembered more of it to tell you but its been a while. I saved it to my dvr but then had to get the box replaced so lost it. I'm sure it will air again just have no idea when. I do think he's innocent and pretty much always have. I wonder what he's doing today.

The only thing I have ever seen was that update that aired on UM. I do remember him well though. He had a great smile. He seemed so happy to be exonerated.

It blows my mind that this show was only on for 6 weeks and they cleared a case. The show was also going to feature John Purvis who was subsequently exonerated and the real killers arrested. Kind of makes one wonder what might have been had they given it more of a chance to find an audience.

You should just dvr all the UM's on Spike like I do. You can tell by the beginning if its something you want to watch. They are starting to air some "new" ones on June 2nd I think at 2 am central if you care.

Why would I care what time it's on Central? Did you forget where I live already?! ;) :lol:

Sedaka was pretty cool, btw. :)

[crystaldawn]

Why would I care what time it's on Central? Did you forget where I live already?! ;) :lol:

Sedaka was pretty cool, btw. :)

Well I figured I'd post the time its on here and let you do the math, lol.

Thats the thing I remember most about Tony too...his great smile. Maybe he's on Facebook.

I was wondering how that went....did anyone faint? :lol:

[justins5256]

I was wondering how that went....did anyone faint? :lol:

No, I kept my composure. Good thing too, as no one would have been there to catch me if I did faint. NO ONE wanted to go with me!! Can you believe that?!

I even sat through an Arlo Guthrie performance a month earlier for my mother and she wouldn't reciprocate.

Oh well, I am my own best company sometimes. :)

[crystaldawn]

No, I kept my composure. Good thing too, as no one would have been there to catch me if I did faint. NO ONE wanted to go with me!! Can you believe that?!

I even sat through an Arlo Guthrie performance a month earlier for my mother and she wouldn't reciprocate.

Oh well, I am my own best company sometimes. :)

Wow that is surprising, maybe they just didn't want to be seen with you...:lol: You could have came and picked me up...:D

Speaking of cases never aired on Lifetime, I think Missy Munday qualifies. They did show it recently on Spike and was surprised to hear that she did serve some very small time. Can't remember exactly but it may have been at a juvenile center. I recently spoke with someone who knows her and she was made aware that her story was shown recently on Spike and she was not happy to say the least!! Apparently UM did ask her to appear in the original segment and she declined btw.

[justins5256]

Wow that is surprising, maybe they just didn't want to be seen with you...:lol:

Man, that's cold... ;)

Speaking of cases never aired on Lifetime, I think Missy Munday qualifies. They did show it recently on Spike and was surprised to hear that she did serve some very small time. Can't remember exactly but it may have been at a juvenile center. I recently spoke with someone who knows her and she was made aware that her story was shown recently on Spike and she was not happy to say the least!! Apparently UM did ask her to appear in the original segment and she declined btw.

I always figured Lifetime never showed Missy's story because she was a minor when the murder occurred.

Interesting then that SPIKE thought it was in the clear to telecast. I can imagine she was upset. I mean, I'm sure she wasn't exactly upfront with many people in her life about her past.

[UnsolvedMFanatic]

You will all have to forgive me,as I am brand new to this msg board.

I am the ULTIMATE UM freak!
I go to bed with Robert Stack every night (his autographed picture sits on my nightstand).
We are in love. And I am delusional.

Anyway,happened upon this thread. Now whats this all about? UM segments rarely seen? Where can I see these.
Besides my ultimate collection set (which have all been watched 438 times,and doesn't even have half of all the segments ever made), I also watch everyday on youtube.
I DO NOT like the new ones one bit. So, I don't watch those.

Again,if I sound out of the loop,I am,and I apologise.
Where to see all these rarely aired segments?

I guess what I'm looking for here is some guidance on how to jump into this msg board. I'm looking for the "duh" things that everyone who contributes on here already knows,so I don't become annoying,looking for what everyone is talking about.
I've been watching UM since it's inception,as a child (I'm 28 this week).
I've seen all of them,but there are so many I can't find,and others I have forgotten about. That being said,I'm up to date on most of the cases aired. I don't do the UFO's (except the Allagash abductions-I just love that one),nor the psychic ones. I like some of the miracles episodes,and many of the haunting ones- not that any of those type episodes can be "updated" anyway.

So,with all that being said,I'd like to join in different discussions,but just not sure where to start.
Again, I apologise for my annoying "newness" here. Until recently, I though I was the only person completely obsessed with UM, nice to see there are other huge fans! The majority of my days is spent watching episodes over,and over, thus affording everyone the knowledge that I am,in fact a complete and utter nerd.

Any info,advice?:wave:

[crystaldawn]

Man, that's cold... ;)





What can I say, I've missed slamming you....:D

I had to chuckle upon hearing she was upset. Does anyone really feel sorry for her that she's inconvenienced its airing. I guess Spike doesn't care that she was a minor, lol.

UnsolvedMFanatic I sent you a private message with some more info. As far as finding all the "duh" (lol) things I would advise just reading the pages on the board when you get the time. I think thats what a lot of the new posters do or there is a search engine function on here, if you think of a particular case and want to see if there's a thread on it. Sometimes if I want to find a thread quickly I will even "google" the name and sometimes SO is the first hit, lol. Welcome.....:wave:

[justins5256]

I had to chuckle upon hearing she was upset. Does anyone really feel sorry for her that she's inconvenienced its airing. I guess Spike doesn't care that she was a minor, lol.

Can't speak for others here, but I don't feel sorry for her. I do feel sorry for Elmer's family, as I'm sure they have had a much harder burden to bare.

[WishfulDreamer]

Wow that is surprising, maybe they just didn't want to be seen with you...:lol: You could have came and picked me up...:D

Speaking of cases never aired on Lifetime, I think Missy Munday qualifies. They did show it recently on Spike and was surprised to hear that she did serve some very small time. Can't remember exactly but it may have been at a juvenile center. I recently spoke with someone who knows her and she was made aware that her story was shown recently on Spike and she was not happy to say the least!! Apparently UM did ask her to appear in the original segment and she declined btw.

:lol: But I'm kind of confused. Do you mean the original UM asked her to appear in the update, like Strickland did? That would have been amusing to see! I'm sure she's super embarrassed today, especially with her mom being interviewed in the segment. I have a hard time believing that her child is older than me! I wonder how he feels about all this and if she has remarried or anything.

By the way, I'm very intrigued by this unaired Davis segment. Any idea why it was never aired? I know it was toward the end of the original series, but it seems sad they filmed it and never showed it, when it could have helped provide vital information. They should try airing it (hopefully RS-style not DF-tainted) for the victim and family's sakes.

[crystaldawn]

:lol: But I'm kind of confused. Do you mean the original UM asked her to appear in the update, like Strickland did? That would have been amusing to see! I'm sure she's super embarrassed today, especially with her mom being interviewed in the segment. I have a hard time believing that her child is older than me! I wonder how he feels about all this and if she has remarried or anything.

By the way, I'm very intrigued by this unaired Davis segment. Any idea why it was never aired? I know it was toward the end of the original series, but it seems sad they filmed it and never showed it, when it could have helped provide vital information. They should try airing it (hopefully RS-style not DF-tainted) for the victim and family's sakes.

Well its been a while and don't remember the exact conversation I had with this person that knows her. You're right though, it wouldn't have made sense if they asked her during the first filming as she was on the run. They probably meant she was asked to appear during the update.

That is interesting about the Davis segment. I've never even heard of her case. It sounds like the letter the husband sent to UM is why it was pulled unfortunately.

[TheCars1986]

I'm positive I've seen the Eric and Pam Ellender segment on Lifetime, in one of their various reruns of the series. It may not have been the full segment, but I do remember seeing it on Lifetime.

[DarkDante]

I'm positive I've seen the Eric and Pam Ellender segment on Lifetime, in one of their various reruns of the series. It may not have been the full segment, but I do remember seeing it on Lifetime.

You may have. "Lifetime" used to show segments that they didn't syndicate at any other time in the half-hour blocks of UM episodes that they would run occasionally in mid-afternoon or late at night.

I saw Tara Calico once in one of these blocks and also a segment on a Wisconsin cult who were suspected of murder.

[TheCars1986]

You may have. "Lifetime" used to show segments that they didn't syndicate at any other time in the half-hour blocks of UM episodes that they would run occasionally in mid-afternoon or late at night.

I saw Tara Calico once in one of these blocks and also a segment on a Wisconsin cult who were suspected of murder.

I seem to remember watching it back in 2003 or 2004 when Lifetime used to air UM back to back at noon and one o'clock. Those were the good old days. I sure do miss Stack.