Watching the Michael Joordan at the Hall of Fame and he is making a fool of himself

[TVFactFan]

This A$$hole is nothing but PUMPING UP his own accomplishments through the years. I almost feel bad for him, he is really pathetic. David Robinson was classy when he was up there but this D*Ckhead is just saying all the wrong things.

Arrogant Milk Dud

LOL

[TVFactFan]

You have to admit as a NBA fan this is one of the GREATEST days though Solomon.. he does talk a lot about himself, but he is talented as f*ck, so if I were him, I wouldn't gloat the whole time, but still a little bit too lol. I seen the end of it. It was special to me when Michael ended his career right in Philly vs. the 76ers. Now tonight is a great moment as well.


David Robinson didnt say anthing about himself

[Retro4Life]

The quality of humility seems to be in very short supply in our society. It doesn't surprise me that Jordan behaved this way.

[Retro4Life]

But what does what he said have to do with being humiliated?? Even Michael didn't say nothing, he was such a great player, nobody would care.

I'm not saying he should be humiliated, I'm saying he should be humble.

I haven't seen his comments, but if they are as LifeAdjuster said, they amount to bragging. I have always gone by the old saying "a good deed is sufficient unto itself", i.e. "you don't have to remind everyone how good something you did was. Let them decide that for themselves and continue doing what you do."

If you let your deeds go to your head, you'll stop trying as hard to do better. And no matter how "great" someone is, they can ALWAYS be better. Plus, such an approach makes people less inclined to resent you.

[GARFIELDKOOL]

David Robinson didnt say anthing about himself

I was watching this myself, and I noticed David Robinson didn't get up there and talk.

[GARFIELDKOOL]

I love(d) David Robinson, but David Robinson is NOT Michael Jordan. MJ can not be replaced.

Yeah. Also, you can't compare a center and a shooting guard. David Robinson was labeled as soft throughout his career until Mario Ellie fired him up because he wasn't firing his team up to go to the next level.

[Brad Russ]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was sickened and shocked by Jordan's speech. Everyone else who spoke was so elequant, and humble, and I was really looking forward to his speech. While the others spent there time thanking those who got them to where they were, all Jordan did was brag about his accomplishments, and tell stories that made himself look good. I've always believed in humbleness, and actually detest cocky people. They're about as useful to me as **** on the bottom of my shoe. Many people say, well with what Jordan achieved, he earned the right to be cocky, but I see it differentely. I feel that the more that you achieve, the more humble you should be. Atleast David Robinson knew that it was God who had the biggest part in making him who he was. Robinson was all class, and I wish Jordan would have taken a lesson from him. I'll always have great respect for Jordan's achievements on the basketball court, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't lose a little respect for him over his speech.

[TVFactFan]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was sickened and shocked by Jordan's speech. Everyone else who spoke was so elequant, and humble, and I was really looking forward to his speech. While the others spent there time thanking those who got them to where they were, all Jordan did was brag about his accomplishments, and tell stories that made himself look good. I've always believed in humbleness, and actually detest cocky people. They're about as useful to me as **** on the bottom of my shoe. Many people say, well with what Jordan achieved, he earned the right to be cocky, but I see it differentely. I feel that the more that you achieve, the more humble you should be. Atleast David Robinson knew that it was God who had the biggest part in making him who he was. Robinson was all class, and I wish Jordan would have taken a lesson from him. I'll always have great respect for Jordan's achievements on the basketball court, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't lose a little respect for him over his speech.


And my mom wanted to know why i always hate him

[Brad Russ]

And my mom wanted to know why i always hate him

Just play your mom his speech, and I'm sure she'll understand now. Jordan was a jackass, among four class acts!!

[Big C]

all Jordan did was brag about his accomplishments, and tell stories that made himself look good.

Are people not allowed to bask in the glory of what they accomplished throughout their career or credit themselves?

[TVFactFan]

Are people not allowed to bask in the glory of what they accomplished throughout their career or credit themselves?


No Idiot because it's called NO CLASS

[Big C]

No Idiot because it's called NO CLASS

So, by your definition, if you don't credit yourself for doing anything, that's class?

If I did a science project and got an A, would it be classy if I credited the science book?

[TVFactFan]

So, by your definition, if you don't credit yourself for doing anything, that's class?

If I did a science project and got an A, would it be classy if I credited the science book?


David Robinson was on stage and credited everyone else for his success not himself. That' why he will always be a man with CLASS and Jordan will be an ASS

[Stuck In The '70's]

http://www.ethiopianreview.com/articles/30386

Jordan's night to remember turns petty

SPRINGFIELD, Mass. – The tears tumbled, flooding his face and Michael Jordan had yet to march to the microphone at Symphony Hall. He had listened to the genuine stories and speeches of a remarkable class. He had watched a “This is Your Life” video compilation of his basketball genius. Everything flashed before him, a legacy that he’s fought with body and soul to never, ever let go into yesterday.

Yes, Michael Jordan was still fighting it on Friday night, and maybe he always will. Mostly, he was crying over the passing of that old Jordan, and it wouldn’t be long until he climbed out of his suit and back into his uniform and shorts, back into an adolescent act that’s turned so tedious.

This wasn’t a Hall of Fame induction speech, but a bully tripping nerds with lunch trays in the school cafeteria. He had a responsibility to his standing in history, to players past and present, and he let everyone down. This was a night to leave behind the petty grievances and past slights – real and imagined. This was a night to be gracious, to be generous with praise and credit.

“M.J. was introduced as the greatest player ever and he’s still standing there trying to settle scores,” one Hall of Famer said privately later.

Jordan didn’t hurt his image with the NBA community, as much as he reminded them of it. “That’s who Michael is,” one high-ranking team executive said. “It wasn’t like he was out of character. There’s no one else who could’ve gotten away with what he did tonight. But it was Michael, and everyone just goes along.”

Jordan wandered through an unfocused and uninspired speech at Symphony Hall, disparaging people who had little to do with his career, like Jeff Van Gundy and Bryon Russell. He ignored people who had so much to do with it, like his personal trainer, Tim Grover. This had been a moving and inspirational night for the NBA – one of its best ceremonies ever – and five minutes into Jordan’s speech it began to spiral into something else. Something unworthy of Jordan’s stature, something beneath him.

Jordan spent more time pointlessly admonishing Van Gundy and Russell for crossing him with taunts a dozen years ago than he did singling out his three children. When he finally acknowledged his family, Jordan blurted, in part, to them, “I wouldn’t want to be you guys.”

Well, um, thanks Dad. He meant it, too. If not the NBA, he should’ve thought of his children before he started spraying fire at everyone.

No one ever feels sorry for Isiah Thomas, but Jordan tsk-tsked him and George Gervin and Magic Johnson for the 1985 All-Star game “freeze-out.” Jordan was a rookie, and the older stars decided to isolate him. It was a long time ago, and he obliterated them all for six NBA championships and five MVP trophies. Isiah and the Ice Man looked stunned, as intimidated 50 feet from the stage, as they might have been on the basketball court.

The cheering and laughter egged Jordan on, but this was no public service for him. Just because he was smiling didn’t mean this speech hadn’t dissolved into a downright vicious volley.

Worst of all, he flew his old high school teammate, Leroy Smith, to Springfield for the induction. Remember, Smith was the upperclassman his coach, Pop Herring, kept on varsity over him as a high school sophomore. He waggled to the old coach, “I wanted to make sure you understood: You made a mistake, dude.”

Whatever, Michael. Everyone gets it. Truth be told, everyone got it years ago, but somehow he thinks this is a cleansing exercise. When basketball wanted to celebrate Jordan as the greatest player ever, wanted to honor him for changing basketball everywhere, he was petty and punitive. Yes, there was some wink-wink teasing with his beloved Dean Smith, but make no mistake: Jordan revealed himself to be strangely bitter. You won, Michael. You won it all. Yet, he keeps chasing something that he’ll never catch, and sometimes, well, it all seems so hollow for him.

This is why he’s a terrible basketball executive because he still hasn’t learned to channel his aggressions into hard work on that job. For the Charlotte Bobcats, Jordan remains an absentee boss who keeps searching for basketball players on fairways and greens.

From the speeches of David Robinson to John Stockton, Jerry Sloan to Vivian Stringer, there was an unmistakable thread of peace of mind and purpose. At times, they were self-deprecating and deflective of praise. Jordan hasn’t mastered that art, and it reveals him to be oddly insecure. When Jordan should’ve thanked the Bulls ex-GM, Jerry Krause, for surrounding him with championship coaches and talent, he ridiculed him. It was me, Jordan was saying. Not him. “The organization didn’t play with the flu in Utah,” Jordan grumbled.

For Jordan to let someone else share in the Bulls’ dynasty will never diminish his greatness. Just enhance it. Only, he’s 46 years old and he still doesn’t get it. Yes, Jordan did gush over Scottie Pippen, but he failed to confess that he had wanted Krause to draft North Carolina’s Joe Wolf. Sometimes, no one is better with a half a story, half a truth, than Jordan. All his life, no one’s ever called him on it.

Whatever Jordan wants to believe, understand this: The reason that Van Gundy’s declaration of him as a “con man” so angered him is because it was true on so many levels.

It was part of his competitiveness edge, part of his marketability, and yes, part of his human frailty.

Jordan wasn’t crying over sentimentality on Friday night, as much as he was the loss of a life that he returned from two retirements to have again. The finality of his basketball genius hit him at the induction ceremony, hit him hard. Jordan showed little poise and less grace.

Once again, he turned the evening into something bordering between vicious and vapid, an empty exercise for a night that should’ve had staying power, that should’ve been transformative for basketball and its greatest player. What fueled his fury as a thirtysomething now fuels his bitterness as a lost, wandering fortysomething who threatened a comeback at 50.

“Don’t laugh,” Michael Jordan warned.

No one’s laughing anymore.

Once and for all, Michael: It’s over.

You won.

(By Adrian Wojnarowski | Yahoo!)

[Brad Russ]

So, by your definition, if you don't credit yourself for doing anything, that's class?

If I did a science project and got an A, would it be classy if I credited the science book?

There's a big difference between giving yourself credit for an accomplishment, and being an overly boastful braggart, which in my opinion Jordan was last night. I was just hoping he'd spend more time giving credit to those who helped get him where he is today, and less time telling us how great he was. He came across as very ungrateful to me. All I was thinking throughout his speech was: we already know you were a great player Michael, tell us something we don't already know. Giving yourself credit is one thing, but overdoing it is quite another, and Michael overdid it in my opinion.

[catlover79]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was sickened and shocked by Jordan's speech. Everyone else who spoke was so elequant, and humble, and I was really looking forward to his speech. While the others spent there time thanking those who got them to where they were, all Jordan did was brag about his accomplishments, and tell stories that made himself look good. I've always believed in humbleness, and actually detest cocky people. They're about as useful to me as **** on the bottom of my shoe. Many people say, well with what Jordan achieved, he earned the right to be cocky, but I see it differentely. I feel that the more that you achieve, the more humble you should be. Atleast David Robinson knew that it was God who had the biggest part in making him who he was. Robinson was all class, and I wish Jordan would have taken a lesson from him. I'll always have great respect for Jordan's achievements on the basketball court, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't lose a little respect for him over his speech.
It doesn't surprise me that David Robinson would be giving the glory to God and being humble. It sounds like he hasn't changed from his playing days - and that's a GOOD thing!! :D

[Darren J.]

Greatest player of all-time(my 3rd favorite), but also a conceited a$$hole.

[Stuck In The '70's]

Jordan is a punk and he always has been. I haven't liked him since his UNC days.

[GARFIELDKOOL]

I think it was his "Come Fly With Me" video. Jordan stated when he's on his came, no one can guard him one on one. That may be true, but he could be a little humble about it, because everyone who did guard him one on one, made him and that defender better. Like I stated before, Jordan use to get away with a lot of push offs when somebody defended him.

[Darren J.]

I think it was his "Come Fly With Me" video. Jordan stated when he's on his came, no one can guard him one on one. That may be true, but he could be a little humble about it, because everyone who did guard him one on one, made him and that defender better. Like I stated before, Jordan use to get away with a lot of push offs when somebody defended him.


As good as Jordan was, it wasn't impossible to guard him. Joe Dumars, John Starks, and Derek Harper all did an excellent job

[GARFIELDKOOL]

As good as Jordan was, it wasn't impossible to guard him. Joe Dumars, John Starks, and Derek Harper all did an excellent job

Believe it or not, Jordan himself said that Rolando Blackman gave him problems as well.

[Darren J.]

Believe it or not, Jordan himself said that Rolando Blackman gave him problems as well.


Blackman and Harper were both good players, but never got proper credit because they played in Dallas and the Mavs for the most part were a s**t a$$ team. Jordan also praised Drazen Petrovic after the '92 Olympics. If Jordan of all people is praising you, then you had to have been good.

[GARFIELDKOOL]

Blackman and Harper were both good players, but never got proper credit because they played in Dallas and the Mavs for the most part were a s**t a$$ team. Jordan also praised Drazen Petrovic after the '92 Olympics. If Jordan of all people is praising you, then you had to have been good.

I know. I want to say Craig Ehlo and Gerald Wilkens played Jordan tough, but he always lit them up. LOL

[TVFactFan]

I know. I want to say Craig Ehlo and Gerald Wilkens played Jordan tough, but he always lit them up. LOL


The Same Craig Ehlo who allowed MJ to hit the buzzer in Cleveland?

[TMC]

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2jMzudeX1E

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c57Lp9ol6tQ

Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WNE5u1Mf-w

[Darren J.]

The Same Craig Ehlo who allowed MJ to hit the buzzer in Cleveland?


This is how far Ehlo was out of position:


http://alltalksports.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/jordans-game-winner-over-ehlo.jpg

[GARFIELDKOOL]

The Same Craig Ehlo who allowed MJ to hit the buzzer in Cleveland?

:lol: I know, I know, Ehlo did his best though. Hell, that year wasn't the Cavs heavily favored to win that series?

[TVFactFan]

:lol: I know, I know, Ehlo did his best though. Hell, that year wasn't the Cavs heavily favored to win that series?

Yes because they swept the Bulls in the regular season that year

[catlover79]

:lol: I know, I know, Ehlo did his best though. Hell, that year wasn't the Cavs heavily favored to win that series?
Yes, indeed it was. Just one in a list of many Cleveland sports disappointments: The Shot. There was also The Fumble, The Drive, The Catch, Red Right 88, Game 7 of the 1997 World Series, etc., etc., etc...:(

[catlover79]

The Cavs disappointment and not winning the '09 Championship, should of been called "The Disappointment."
Not to mention the 2007 Championship series, too!! :mad:

[catlover79]

It sucks. They all have "The" in front of them too lol :lol:.
Sad, isn't it?? :eek:

[catlover79]

Here's a blurb from Wikipedia. I know that Wikipedia is often inaccurate - but this time every word is true!! :eek:

There is an alleged curse on the city of Cleveland, Ohio that prevents them from winning a major sports championship. To this date, it has been arguably the biggest sports championship drought in any U.S. city. The last Cleveland title came in 1964 when the Browns won the NFL Championship. The Cleveland Indians last won the World Series in 1948 and the Cleveland Cavaliers have never won the NBA Finals, losing in their first appearance in 2007 to the San Antonio Spurs. Some of their most infamous failures have been dubbed with a title, often with a single word preceded by an ominous "The." Amongst locals and even sports fans in general, The Catch, Red Right 88, The Drive, The Fumble, and The Shot all evoke images of Cleveland sports futility.[citation needed] Less famous outside of Cleveland, Game 7 of the 1997 World Series is commonly referred to as The Error (briefly known as The Mesa), The Collapse ( see 2007 American League Championship Series), and The Stop Sign ( see game 7 of the American League Championship Series).

Cleveland has also had two franchises cease operations. In 1978, the Cleveland Barons of the National Hockey League vanished after two unsuccessful seasons by merging with the Minnesota North Stars. The Cleveland Rockers of the WNBA shut down in 2003 after seven seasons of existence.

In 2004, ESPN named Cleveland the most tortured sports city.[14] That same year, the 40th anniversary of the last championship, the local newspaper The Plain Dealer produced a special section documenting the losing seasons of the three major teams since 1964.[15] (See also The Curse of Rocky Colavito)

[catlover79]

Yeah I seen that. The whole "Curses in Sports" topic on Wikipedia in general is very interesting, and fun to read. lol the Curse of Billy Penn, except it's over now. I bet you can't wait when your curse will be over too, Monika!!! I know I was!
We can only hope!!

[Darren J.]

1997- Flyers vs. Wings. We had the Legion of Doom. I name this "THE SWEEP." Detroit sweeps us and wins their first Stanley Cup in something like 40/50 years.


That McCarty goal in game 4 was insane. The Flyers were horrible though. Outscored 16-6 in the 4 games.


2000- Sixers vs. Lakers. We already have a, THE SWEEP, game, so....."The One Man Army." We had Mutombo, George Lynch, Geiger, Snow etc. but AI was our only good star. Too much Shaq and Kobe.


That 76ers team was a lot better than people give them credit for. They were stacked defensively(only allowed 90 PPG) and had Larry Brown as coach. But, you had Shaq at the tail end of his prime and Kobe entering his prime. No way was anyone beating LA at that point.

[Darren J.]

Horrible???? We had the best line in hockey. We had no depth was the problem. if we had a good goalie, and a great team, how were we horrible Darren? lol. Brindamour, Lindros, Renberg, Leclair. Like I said, we had great players, no depth.


They were horrible in the Finals. So horrible that Ron Hextall got benched for game 3.