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Zoneboy
06-05-2009, 10:48 PM
Link (http://www.nj.com/celebrity-news/index.ssf/2009/06/celebrating_norman_lear_70s_si.html)


The starkly modern Paley Center for Media in Beverly Hills was full of no-holds-barred affection for an unassuming guy in blue jeans and a white hat. But that modest-looking man just happens to be one of the most influential producers in the history of television.

Norman Lear has been called a legend and an icon, but the stars on hand to pay tribute to him see Lear as the brilliant friend who launched their careers. They couldn't wait to get a hug and a picture with the creator of such critically acclaimed and award-winning primetime hits as All in the Family, Maude, Sanford and Son, The Jeffersons and One Day At A Time.

Now, you can take a journey back through some of the funniest and most thought-provoking moments ever seen on the small screen with the Norman Lear Collection, 19 DVDs featuring the first seasons of seven groundbreaking series. Parade.com's Jeanne Wolf also got a hug—and a chance to capture some of the memories, starting with the guest of honor.

NORMAN LEAR

The secret of the white hat.
"I was spending 18 hours a day writing, and I was scratching my head so much I actually got a scab and my wife got tired of looking at it. So one day she threw a little white hat on my head, which she picked up somewhere, and I've worn it ever since."


His take on primetime.
"Right now you can see the best drama there ever was, and there's some great comedy too. When I see South Park or Family Guy, when I see Curb Your Enthusiasm, I laugh as hard as I could laugh at anything. I think we have to laugh at ourselves, the foolishness of the human condition."

If he took another shot at producing.
"You know what I want to do? I want to do the other side of South Park. I want to do old people in the right location with their families, a humorous take on the older generation."



Fighting censorship.
"We did an episode where Maude said, 'Walter, you son of a bitch,' because she thought he'd been cheating on her. So it was a moment where it was so right. And I get this call from the network censor, 'You've got to be kidding.' He said, 'There's got to be something else that she can say that would be every bit as right for the moment.' And I said, "You take 24 hours and if you can call me back and say, 'Norman, if Maude said this, it'll be every bit as right,' then I'll use it.' And we ended up leaving 'son of a bitch' in.'"

What kept him in touch with the audience in one hit after another.
"If it feels right, that's the guideline. If I think it's funny, then I imagine you'll think it's funny. If I think it's compelling, then I imagine you'll think it's compelling. And it's big business that does the research and the flow charts and all of that nonsense."


Why retirement isn't in his vocabulary.
"I need to wake up in the morning with something to do. That's as strong a need in me today as it was in my 20s. I have to get up and do something that I'm excited about doing. That's what keeps my pulse going. That's what keeps me alive so that need hasn't been diminished an iota. I know people ask that question, 'What does he need it for with all his money?' I know this is a cliche, but I never saw money as anything but a way to deliver happiness. And I need to work to be happy."

ROB REINER (All in the Family)
"I remember looking at some clips from All in the Family, which I hadn't seen in years and I was laughing but I was also moved to tears. I thought to myself, 'We did something great with Norman.' I've always made the joke that if I won the Nobel Prize they'd say, 'And the award goes to Meathead.' Now, I realize that being a part of that legacy that Norman created is a pretty good way to be remembered."

"I think we're living in a very PC world now. So if we were doing All in the Family it would probably be not as hard-hitting, not as edgy. But the issues are still there. And there's a way of addressing those issues and having passionate arguments on both sides. And you can laugh at them."

BONNIE FRANKLIN (One Day At A Time)
"The days of political correctness are here and none of Norman's stuff could be done in a world of political correctness. Can you imagine Archie Bunker on TV today? Norman always said, 'We can deal with these issues, but we're doing comedy. And you've got to have it be funny. Then you're not batting somebody in the head, telling them that they've got to think a certain way.' That's not what he was about. What Norman was able to do was to show you both sides of an issue."

JIMMIE WALKER (Good Times)
"Norman and I totally disagreed on everything. He's an ultra liberal. I'm a conservative. He said, 'We're trying to tell a little story and have a message.' And I said, 'Norman, if you want to do a message, go to work for Western Union. I'm here for comedy, baby.'"

"But Norman actually did both. I think political correctness stole a lot of stuff out of TV. You look at All in the Family. That couldn't get on the air today. You look at Norman's favorite show which was Maude. They did a show on Maude's abortion [it would] never make air today."

Ja'Net Dubois (Good Times)
"Norman didn't stand there and say, 'Don't.' He was like, 'If you can make it work your way, do it.' And that's why I love him. It's like he let me do my hats and my wigs and my clothes. He let me go. And I loved it."

James
06-06-2009, 05:52 PM
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Zoneboy
06-06-2009, 06:40 PM
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Is there a problem? If you don't like the thread then I suggest you take your gripe to one of the moderators of this board or an administrator.

Marvo301
06-06-2009, 06:59 PM
Charles, thanks for posting this article about Norman Lear. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it!

James
06-06-2009, 08:13 PM
Is there a problem? If you don't like the thread then I suggest you take your gripe to one of the moderators of this board or an administrator.

Just my way of saying that I thought his shows sucked, especially "All In The Family."

Zoneboy
06-06-2009, 08:48 PM
Just my way of saying that I thought his shows sucked, especially "All In The Family."

Ok, Sorry for the misunderstanding. If you feel that his shows sucked then that's fine. Of course the majority of us here know better.

McGillicuddy
06-06-2009, 09:12 PM
I have the set on order from Amazon, and look forward to all the retrospects and backstory, and the pilot to AITF!

JulieSomoski
06-06-2009, 09:14 PM
Just my way of saying that I thought his shows sucked, especially "All In The Family."

Are you kidding me? His shows were some of the most popular, creative, controversial, and beloved shows to ever hit the airwaves. All in the Family was the #1 show on television for 5 years, so clearly you don't know what good television is.

clj2
06-06-2009, 09:23 PM
I'm not putting him down, but all I really care for that he created was Good Times and Maude. Sanford and Son is OK but I got sick of it. The rest...meh. They were huge shows, but just not a big interest to me (especially All in the Family).

Zoneboy
06-06-2009, 10:03 PM
I'm not putting him down, but all I really care for that he created was Good Times and Maude. Sanford and Son is OK but I got sick of it. The rest...meh. They were huge shows, but just not a big interest to me (especially All in the Family).

Norman didn't create Good Times, That was Mike Evans and Eric Monte.

Jude The Obscure
06-07-2009, 11:43 AM
Norman is not once ever credited as "creator" on his shows, they all say "Developed by Norman Lear".

Retro4Life
06-07-2009, 11:48 AM
Norman Lear is a television legend, responsible for some of my favorite moments in sitcom history. 90 percent of the shows on today owe a huge debt of gratitude to him for opening the creative doors he did (I only wish they'd follow his example of high quality).

Long live Norman! And thanks for posting the very informative article! :)

clj2
06-07-2009, 11:49 AM
OK, should have said shows he was 'associated with.' I have never gotten the hype of AITF....guess I don't get it in part because I wasn't around back then.

Jude The Obscure
06-07-2009, 11:53 AM
I always enjoy The Jeffersons and Good Times. AITF, I can take or leave, S&S is just annoying to me. One Day--haven't seen the reruns in 20 years and Maude was so sporadic in rerun play, I never got that into it.

Stuck In The '70's
06-07-2009, 11:54 AM
Norman Lear's shows were classics. They were all great. The End.

Retro4Life
06-07-2009, 11:59 AM
OK, should have said shows he was 'associated with.' I have never gotten the hype of AITF....guess I don't get it in part because I wasn't around back then.

Well, comedy is very subjective. Ultimately, you either laugh or you don't. I think for most of us, AITF struck a strong chord because we knew people like the Bunkers (or perhaps, WERE people like the Bunkers) or identified with the situations as very real, very human conflicts and issues. For me, comedy comes from a basis of reality. The Bunkers talked the way real people talked, they acted the way real people acted, and they were imperfect, just like real people. That ability to recognize and identify with the characters that is key to comedy; you see your own foibles and struggles onscreen and react to them.

It shouldn't matter whether one is born in a particular era or not, really. I wasn't around in the 40s and I laugh like a kid at Abbott and Costello movies.
But as I say, to each his own. :)

Zoneboy
06-07-2009, 12:02 PM
Norman is not once ever credited as "creator" on his shows, they all say "Developed by Norman Lear".

I forgot about that but you're right.

Jude The Obscure
06-07-2009, 12:03 PM
so says Sonny.....and Sonny's opinion is unanimous! :D

Stuck In The '70's
06-07-2009, 12:14 PM
so says Sonny.....and Sonny's opinion is unanimous! :D
:lol:

I can't think of one Norman Lear show I didn't like. I never saw A.K.A. Pablo, The Dumplings or Sunday Dinner so maybe one of those. :lol: I grew up with Norman Lear shows. I remember my whole family sitting around the TV and watching AITF . I just think Mr. Lear knew what the public wanted and he gave it to us. He brought more reality into the sitcom world then there ever was before. It's too bad there aren't any great producers like him anymore. Maybe sitcoms wouldn't be in such poor shape. I also think it's a shame that shows like AITF couldn't be made today because it's not PC. I can't stand anything that's PC.

TVFactFan
06-07-2009, 01:57 PM
Norman Lear did have great shows but this recent DVD set that was just released is a "Pile of sh*T"

catlover79
06-07-2009, 03:52 PM
Norman Lear's contributions to TV are unmatched. My favorite shows of his are Good Times and Sanford & Son. They never fail to make me laugh - and I love that his humor was so un-PC. Too bad it isn't like that today.

McGillicuddy
06-07-2009, 04:43 PM
Norman Lear did have great shows but this recent DVD set that was just released is a "Pile of sh*T"
I wouldn't say its a pile of sh*T, but ultimately it sucks these extra features weren't on the respective shows releases. From that point I get you.
Someone said on the board here that AITF and The Jeffersons season sets have not been completed because of low sales. I for one rarely buy shows without extras, so maybe thats why. I'm buying the NL collection and am NOW going to start collecting seasons of these shows. So I hope Sony starts releasing remaining seasons of these, Maude and One Day.

TVFactFan
06-07-2009, 06:23 PM
I wouldn't say its a pile of sh*T, but ultimately it sucks these extra features weren't on the respective shows releases. From that point I get you.
Someone said on the board here that AITF and The Jeffersons season sets have not been completed because of low sales. I for one rarely buy shows without extras, so maybe thats why. I'm buying the NL collection and am NOW going to start collecting seasons of these shows. So I hope Sony starts releasing remaining seasons of these, Maude and One Day.


Anytime a set that is realeased by the same production company with the same seasons of a show that has already been released before makes the set a pile of sh*T-lol