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Brad Russ
05-09-2009, 04:38 AM
I found an article that I actually put up on the boards a few weeks ago that basically said that it's not always good when a guy is too nice. I definitely have had my moments of meanness in my life, but I have been accused many times of being too nice. Don't get me wrong, if someone goes over the line with me, you can bet that their ass will get it right back, but I'm talking about just regular situations, and in everyday situations, I just find no reason to have hostility, or to be mean. So my question to all the females is, is it unattractive when a man is too nice?? If so, what advice can you give me to change, and maybe be a little more edgy? Should I get meaner, or should I just continue to be myself? One thing I can definitely say is that with all my faults, what you see is what you get with me, and how I am online, is how I am for the most part in real life. For whatever that's worth. My niceness may annoy some people, but you are always getting the true me, I can guarantee you that!! Anyway, anyone have any opinions on this??

Hollow
05-09-2009, 05:15 AM
i'd only consider a guy to be "too nice" if he made a doormat of himself or put so much effort into pleasing me that he didn't have any respect for himself. for example if i wanted to go on a casual outing with him and it turned out he had a job interview or a meeting or something else important that day, i wouldn't want him to cancel it to spend time with me. also, i'd never cheat on anyone, but if he were to tell me that he wouldn't mind if i did (i actually had a similar situation happen), i wouldn't like it. he needs to acknowledge his own needs and keep his priorities in order.

beautifuldreamer
05-09-2009, 05:57 AM
First off... I agree with everything that Sarah^ said... you want a guy to be nice, but what you don't want is doormat city!:lol: By the way, you are not a doormat, Brad, but I do think that if you go the extra mile, people get suspicious. It's like when I hold the door open for someone at school, and they look at me like, "okay, what do you want from me in return?" or, in my teacher's case, they say, "you AREN'T getting extra points for that.":lol:

Also, if a guy is nice to me... don't get me wrong, that's AWESOME! But if he is overly nice, I get really suspicious that he's after something. Maybe you could take it down a notch... I don't know, maybe there is a difference between just being nice, and being nice to be nice... ? Okay, I don't even understand what I just said... but it might be relevant later. :lol: In other words, be polite, but don't break your back to help someone you don't know all that well just to be nice. Like if someone I don't know very well is SUPER-nice to me, I don't feel that they're being very sincere, because they really don't know me. But if someone is polite, and has manners, and is inquisitive, and wants to get to know me... the nice will come later. ;)

I don't know... it's almost 3:00am, this might not make much sense... but I just keep talking anyway.:talk: Don't get meaner, Brad. Just get less-nicer... not to me though, I like the super-sweetie that you are. :wave:

ekkostar
05-09-2009, 07:33 AM
Good lord am I sick of the nice guy/doormat thing. The worst is when the guy thinks he's a friggin' gentleman because he opens a door. I get the strangest looks when they stand there like a moron with it open and I just go and open the door BESIDE it.
Douchebags.

catlover79
05-09-2009, 10:39 AM
Good lord am I sick of the nice guy/doormat thing. The worst is when the guy thinks he's a friggin' gentleman because he opens a door. I get the strangest looks when they stand there like a moron with it open and I just go and open the door BESIDE it.
Douchebags.
The thing I can't stand is men who are tied to their mommy's apron strings - been there, done that. It was not a good experience. :eek: :lol:

Sharop
05-09-2009, 10:53 AM
Good lord am I sick of the nice guy/doormat thing. The worst is when the guy thinks he's a friggin' gentleman because he opens a door. I get the strangest looks when they stand there like a moron with it open and I just go and open the door BESIDE it.
Douchebags.

I like it when men hold doors open. My friend Justin (who passed away last month) always let girls go through the door first. Always. He was a proper gentleman. He wasn't a "douche bag." He's one of the most intelligent people I've ever known and he should still be here. He would have been 48 in June.

Sharop
05-09-2009, 10:55 AM
I have to agree with that. :lol: Also, I can't stand men who are tied to their mommy's apron strings - been there, done that. It was not a good experience. :eek: :lol:

Do you mean by that, that you wouldn't want to date that kind of man? I can see why. But a lot of men who are attached to their mothers are really kind, nice people, so you'd probably find that you liked them as people - just not in a "dating" way.

Brad Russ
05-09-2009, 11:32 AM
Good lord am I sick of the nice guy/doormat thing. The worst is when the guy thinks he's a friggin' gentleman because he opens a door. I get the strangest looks when they stand there like a moron with it open and I just go and open the door BESIDE it.
Douchebags.

I always open doors for people whether it's a man, or a woman. I think it's stupid not to when someone is behind you, because it's just a show of courtesy. I think the true douche bags are the ones who don't hold doors open for people, especially when the people are right behind you. Actually, they're worse than douche bags, they're straight up assh*les who I think usually need a good ass whooping, and a lesson in manners. I don't tolerate people like that. **** them!!

See, I guess I do have a mean side to me afterall. I'm definitely no doormat. The way I look at it, if someone treats me with respect, I'll give it back to them tenfold, but you treat me with disrespect, and you'll also get it back tenfold!! May not be right on my part, it's just the way I feel.

MickeyMac
05-09-2009, 12:49 PM
I dont see anything wrong with a guy holding a door open for a woman.

Pus$y Galore
05-09-2009, 01:00 PM
I dont see anything wrong with a guy holding a door open for a woman.

Or holding a door open for anyone. I always do it. And I don't know how often the person doesn't even say a thing - even if you've stood there to wait for them!!!

It's when they do that, that I let them go ahead and then once inside, in a loud ringing voice say, "Oh you're welcome!"

Most times people look around and see who the ignoramous was! ;)

Chocoholic
05-09-2009, 03:29 PM
I don't see anything wrong with a guy who is nice, as llong as they at least have a backbone.

Anyway, Brad, you seem like such a lovely guy. If we lived closer, I'd consider you for a date, and I'm not just saying that to be nice.

MickeyMac
05-09-2009, 03:52 PM
I think most people in their right mind appreciate a significant other that is nice, but at the same time most people dont want to date a doormat. I dont.

KayCee
05-09-2009, 04:51 PM
Well I for one don't really like guys to open doors for me, or do "gentlemanly" stuff I guess you would call it. It makes me feel helpless. I mean it's one thing to hold a door open cuz someone is walking right behind you or something, but to actually go out of your way to do it... it's not flattering to me. It would just piss me off LOL.

Sharop
05-09-2009, 05:39 PM
Well I for one don't really like guys to open doors for me, or do "gentlemanly" stuff I guess you would call it. It makes me feel helpless.

I can see why you'd feel that way but that's not their intention behind it. When men hold doors open for women, they're just being kind and polite.

PZelda
05-09-2009, 06:39 PM
Do you mean by that, that you wouldn't want to date that kind of man? I can see why. But a lot of men who are attached to their mothers are really kind, nice people, so you'd probably find that you liked them as people - just not in a "dating" way.
I think Monika is talking about the type of guy who ends up being 30 years old and having to depend on their mom for everything, because they were never taught independence. And let's be honest, these guys are real losers. Not of the ********* variety, but of the "OMG PLEASE LEARN HOW TO BE INDEPENDENT/GET A LIFE" variety.

I know a guy like that... 28, has been in college for 10 years now and only has one AAS degree to show for it (wtf?), has never worked full-time in his life. His first job was a summer job when he was a teen, and now he has one that is 2 hours/day so I think it's a 10 hour/week job. Not sure what his living arrangement is now that school is out for the summer for him, but GOOD LORD. He doesn't even TRY. He also whines all the time about how he wishes he was in a relationship. GEE I WONDER WHY.

I'm a late bloomer myself, but JEEZ. Just frigging TRY!

catlover79
05-09-2009, 06:47 PM
I think Monika is talking about the type of guy who ends up being 30 years old and having to depend on their mom for everything, because they were never taught independence. And let's be honest, these guys are real losers. Not of the ********* variety, but of the "OMG PLEASE LEARN HOW TO BE INDEPENDENT/GET A LIFE" variety.

I know a guy like that... 28, has been in college for 10 years now and only has one AAS degree to show for it (wtf?), has never worked full-time in his life. His first job was a summer job when he was a teen, and now he has one that is 2 hours/day so I think it's a 10 hour/week job. Not sure what his living arrangement is now that school is out for the summer for him, but GOOD LORD. He doesn't even TRY. He also whines all the time about how he wishes he was in a relationship. GEE I WONDER WHY.

I'm a late bloomer myself, but JEEZ. Just frigging TRY!
That's exactly what I meant - like the guy who brought his MOTHER along on our date. :eek: The less said about that debacle, the better. No, I never went out with him again!

PZelda
05-09-2009, 06:56 PM
That's exactly what I meant - like the guy who brought his MOTHER along on our date. :eek: The less said about that debacle, the better. No, I never went out with him again!
I remember that, and I was thinking of that when I saw your post/commented on it. Yikes!! That's a big no-no for sure.

catlover79
05-09-2009, 07:12 PM
I remember that, and I was thinking of that when I saw your post/commented on it. Yikes!! That's a big no-no for sure.
It's great when a potential love interest gets along with his parents, but in this case it's taking things too far. I had to take a shower after I got home from that debacle. EWWWWWWWW. :eek: puke:

Marvo301
05-09-2009, 07:18 PM
That's exactly what I meant - like the guy who brought his MOTHER along on our date. :eek: The less said about that debacle, the better. No, I never went out with him again!
Wow, that sounds like something straight out of a sitcom! (Although I know it wasn't funny to you at the time)

catlover79
05-09-2009, 07:20 PM
Wow, that sounds like something straight out of a sitcom! (Although I know it wasn't funny to you at the time)
You're right on both counts. I can laugh about it now, but at the time it wasn't funny at all!! It happened back in 1998.

Sharop
05-09-2009, 07:41 PM
:lol:

Apart from bringing his mother along, though, was he nice?

catlover79
05-09-2009, 07:59 PM
:lol:

Apart from bringing his mother along, though, was he nice?
He tried to cop a feel in the movie with his mom right there - need I say more?? puke:

Darren J.
05-09-2009, 09:46 PM
I found an article that I actually put up on the boards a few weeks ago that basically said that it's not always good when a guy is too nice. I definitely have had my moments of meanness in my life, but I have been accused many times of being too nice. Don't get me wrong, if someone goes over the line with me, you can bet that their ass will get it right back, but I'm talking about just regular situations, and in everyday situations, I just find no reason to have hostility, or to be mean. So my question to all the females is, is it unattractive when a man is too nice?? If so, what advice can you give me to change, and maybe be a little more edgy? Should I get meaner, or should I just continue to be myself? One thing I can definitely say is that with all my faults, what you see is what you get with me, and how I am online, is how I am for the most part in real life. For whatever that's worth. My niceness may annoy some people, but you are always getting the true me, I can guarantee you that!! Anyway, anyone have any opinions on this??


As long as you have a backbone and stand up for yourself, you won't have a problem. You'll get the occasional woman that doesn't appreciate a true gentleman, but that's her loss and she'll end up bitter later on in life.

catlover79
05-09-2009, 10:04 PM
As long as you have a backbone and stand up for yourself, you won't have a problem. You'll get the occasional woman that doesn't appreciate a true gentleman, but that's her loss and she'll end up bitter later on in life.
Very well said!! :clap :clap :clap

Cactus Jack
05-09-2009, 10:07 PM
You're right on both counts. I can laugh about it now, but at the time it wasn't funny at all!! It happened back in 1998.
A plot for a very awesome Seinfeld episode happened the year it ended :lol:

catlover79
05-09-2009, 10:09 PM
A plot for a very awesome Seinfeld episode happened the year it ended :lol:
Yes, I could've gotten a story credit and made all the $$$ I'd ever need in residuals. Oh well. :( :lol:

Cactus Jack
05-09-2009, 10:12 PM
Yes, I could've gotten a story credit and made all the $$$ I'd ever need in residuals. Oh well. :( :lol:
LOL


The episode would be called let's see....


The Motherload


The Man and the Not-Quite-a-MILF


The Mama's Boy


and judgiing form the cop a feel post ealrier


The Mother ****er ( rhymes with trucker)

catlover79
05-09-2009, 10:19 PM
LOL


The episode would be called let's see....


The Motherload


The Man and the Not-Quite-a-MILF


The Mama's Boy


and judgiing form the cop a feel post ealrier


The Mother ****er ( rhymes with trucker)
:rofl: :brent :clap props: Jack, you really gave me some good belly laughs there. The date occured in October of 1998, once Seinfeld had already ceased production. What a missed opportunity. :( :lol:

gidgetgrape
05-09-2009, 10:19 PM
Just be yourself. At the same time, you have to be nice (generous?) in proportion to how well you know the girl. If it's your first date and she mentions she's never seen a movie, don't run out and buy it for her. If you have a book she's been dying to read, don't offer to lend it to her. Don't volunteer to walk her dog or do anything that makes it seem like you have just been waiting to be her personal genie. Some girls will take advantage of that. Some girls will just think it's too soon/too weird or feel too pressured to see you again. Just get to know her - be cool, not needy.

Be well-mannered, but treat her like you would treat a friend for at least the first few dates. Then kick the niceness up a notch as the relationship progresses.

steevo
05-09-2009, 10:24 PM
Over the past few years I discovered in my own life that perhaps I was super nice to the point where I let people take advantage of me to win their friendship. I mean stuff like borrow money and never pay it back or get into trouble like sneaking out of school to win their favor. I am ashamed to say that basically I was a doormat for certain people because I wanted to win their friendship and be accepted. Needless to say it never worked out anyway. :rolleyes:

I believe a simple act of kindness like opening a door for someone is a good and gentlemanly thing to do. A balance can be struck between being nice and not being a pushover. To me, its just a matter a common sense, like the job interview that was mentioned elsewhere in this thread. It is never good to let anyone walk all over you. I know that from experience.

Monika - sorry to hear about your dating experience with that one guy. That must have been awful, although happy to hear you can laugh about it now.:lol:

Brad - just keep being yourself, my man. You will find the right person. :cool:

Cactus Jack
05-09-2009, 10:27 PM
:rofl: :brent :clap props: Jack, you really gave me some good belly laughs there. The date occured in October of 1998, once Seinfeld had already ceased production. What a missed opportunity. :( :lol:
LOL


fav title? My personal fav is The MotherF*cker obviously :lol:

catlover79
05-09-2009, 10:41 PM
LOL


fav title? My personal fav is The MotherF*cker obviously :lol:
Big shock there. :lol:

Cactus Jack
05-09-2009, 10:44 PM
Big shock there. :lol:
LOL

Brad Russ
05-09-2009, 11:39 PM
I don't see anything wrong with a guy who is nice, as llong as they at least have a backbone.

Anyway, Brad, you seem like such a lovely guy. If we lived closer, I'd consider you for a date, and I'm not just saying that to be nice.

Wow, thanks Chocoholic!! :blush: That was definitely a nice surprise to read that. I would consider going out with you too, because you seem like a damn cool woman!! ;) :hug:

Btw, can I have your first name? I feel kind of bad about calling you by your username all the time. If you don't feel comfortable giving your name out, I understand.

beautifuldreamer
05-09-2009, 11:54 PM
He tried to cop a feel in the movie with his mom right there - need I say more?? puke:

Uhhh... ICK!!!!! puke: Oh my gosh, Monika!!! :eek: What a weirdo! Where did you find this guy? Sorry to make you talk about the "debacle" even more! :lol:

catlover79
05-09-2009, 11:56 PM
Wow, thanks Chocoholic!! :blush: That was definitely a nice surprise to read that. I would consider going out with you too, because you seem like a damn cool woman!! ;) :hug:

Btw, can I have your first name? I feel kind of bad about calling you by your username all the time. If you don't feel comfortable giving your name out, I understand.
She's Kristen - I don't think she'd mind.

beautifuldreamer
05-10-2009, 12:00 AM
Btw, can I have your first name? I feel kind of bad about calling you by your username all the time. If you don't feel comfortable giving your name out, I understand.

It seems like just yesterday you were asking me that, Brad... it was all downhill from there.. j/k:lol: We became friends unusually fast, that's all I remember. It's like I've known you for years... but it's only been a few weeks.:D Sorry to butt in to your conversation, you two... but I think you're damn awesome, Brad!! You too, Chocoholic... I mean your username alone guarantees awesomeness! :wave:

Brad Russ
05-10-2009, 12:00 AM
She's Kristen - I don't think she'd mind.

Thanks Monika!! :D

Hollywood Rock Chic
05-10-2009, 12:04 AM
My advice is just be your self; if you are a nice guy, then you are a nice guy; that is a part of your personality. Never try to change to please any woman, because you are only going to be disappointed. Women like men, whom they have chemistry with, nice guys, bad boys, etc.

Brad Russ
05-10-2009, 12:06 AM
It seems like just yesterday you were asking me that, Brad... it was all downhill from there.. j/k:lol: We became friends unusually fast, that's all I remember. It's like I've known you for years... but it's only been a few weeks.:D Sorry to butt in to your conversation, you two... but I think you're damn awesome, Brad!! You too, Chocoholic... I mean your username alone guarantees awesomeness! :wave:

Awwww, thanks so much Mattie!! Yeah, I really don't think I've ever become such good friends with someone as quickly as I did with you. I just think we have alot in common, and in alot of ways we're very much alike. I think so anyway. I knew there was something special about you the moment you sent me your first message, and I realize it more and more everyday. You have such a huge :heart: I also feel like I've known you for years. :)

Brad Russ
05-10-2009, 12:09 AM
My advice is just be your self; if you are a nice guy, then you are a nice guy; that is a part of your personality. Never try to change to please any woman, because you are only going to be disappointed. Women like men, whom they have chemistry with, nice guys, bad boys, etc.

Thanks so much for the advice Tara!! I think that's the best advice I've heard in this thread, and I think I will just be satisfied with who I am. Thanks my friend. You always know just what to say to make me feel better!! :hug:

Hollywood Rock Chic
05-10-2009, 12:15 AM
Thanks so much for the advice Tara!! I think that's the best advice I've heard in this thread, and I think I will just be satisfied with who I am. Thanks my friend. You always know just what to say to make me feel better!! :hug:


Brad, you are a wonderful person. Thank you for your kind words. I learned the hard way, that the main ingredient in finding someone to like you is simple; chemistry. You can be the sweetest, coolest, most sexiest guy around, but if there is zero chemistry there between you and a lady, she is not going to be interested; and the bottom line is, there is nothing you can change about yourself that is going to make her change your mind. Most women like a man, because of him, even his flaws...

Shine
05-10-2009, 12:25 AM
Thanks so much for the advice Tara!! I think that's the best advice I've heard in this thread, and I think I will just be satisfied with who I am. Thanks my friend. You always know just what to say to make me feel better!! :hug:


I agree with Tara, Brad. Besides, you have to be the person that you were born to be. If some people think you are too nice, that is their problem. Let them deal with you. You just go on being you. :)

LuLu Rogers
05-10-2009, 12:28 AM
I don't see anything wrong with a guy who is nice, as llong as they at least have a backbone.

Anyway, Brad, you seem like such a lovely guy. If we lived closer, I'd consider you for a date, and I'm not just saying that to be nice.


Back off, he's mine! :mad: ;)

Shine
05-10-2009, 12:29 AM
Back off, he's mine! :mad: ;)

Brad the's the man. Women are fighting over him now. :lol: ;)

LuLu Rogers
05-10-2009, 12:31 AM
Brad the's the man. Women are fighting over him now. :lol: ;)

:lol: Brad has been my "online boyfriend" for a couple of years now, I'll always treasure that :)

catlover79
05-10-2009, 12:35 AM
Uhhh... ICK!!!!! puke: Oh my gosh, Monika!!! :eek: What a weirdo! Where did you find this guy? Sorry to make you talk about the "debacle" even more! :lol:
It was a youth group gathering at a Cleveland Indians game. Different churches from the area were all gathered in the same section, and despite being from different churches, wound up sitting next to each other. I'm from the east side of Cleveland, and he was from the west side, and I never would've gone out with him after he'd brought his mother had he not driven out so far. If he'd lived closer, I'd have flat out refused knowing what he was planning on doing. He didn't even ask/tell me first!! :mad:

catlover79
05-10-2009, 12:36 AM
Thanks Monika!! :D
No problem, Mr. Stud Muffin! :D

Brad Russ
05-10-2009, 12:37 AM
I agree with Tara, Brad. Besides, you have to be the person that you were born to be. If some people think you are too nice, that is their problem. Let them deal with you. You just go on being you. :)

Thanks Mike, you're awesome!! :D You are a cool, and nice guy yourself, and to be honest, you've always reminded me alot of myself in many ways, for what that's worth. :)

Shine
05-10-2009, 12:40 AM
Thanks Mike, you're awesome!! :D You are a cool, and nice guy yourself, and to be honest, you've always reminded me alot of myself in many ways, for what that's worth. :)

Thanks, Brad. :) I take it is as a complement. :D

Brad Russ
05-10-2009, 12:40 AM
:lol: Brad has been my "online boyfriend" for a couple of years now, I'll always treasure that :)

That's right, and you're a damn fine online girlfriend Lauren, and a great friend to boot!!! ;)

Brad Russ
05-10-2009, 12:42 AM
No problem, Mr. Stud Muffin! :D

:rofl:

LuLu Rogers
05-10-2009, 12:42 AM
That's right, and you're a damn fine online girlfriend Lauren, and a great friend to boot!!! ;)


Aww :blush: Get over here!! :smooch: ;)

Brad Russ
05-10-2009, 12:46 AM
Aww :blush: Get over here!! :smooch: ;)

I sure hope we get the chance to meet face to face one day. That would be awesome!! :D :hug:

LuLu Rogers
05-10-2009, 12:51 AM
I sure hope we get the chance to meet face to face one day. That would be awesome!! :D :hug:


:nod:

Darren J.
05-10-2009, 01:13 AM
My advice is just be your self; if you are a nice guy, then you are a nice guy; that is a part of your personality. Never try to change to please any woman, because you are only going to be disappointed. Women like men, whom they have chemistry with, nice guys, bad boys, etc.


That's a good point. I'm turning 21 and I don't think most of the girls are past the bad boy stage yet. That's one of the reasons I don't date. I don't like drama in my life.

catlover79
05-10-2009, 01:23 AM
That's a good point. I'm turning 21 and I don't think most of the girls are past the bad boy stage yet. That's one of the reasons I don't date. I don't like drama in my life.
I don't blame you one bit.

Hollywood Rock Chic
05-10-2009, 01:30 AM
That's a good point. I'm turning 21 and I don't think most of the girls are past the bad boy stage yet. That's one of the reasons I don't date. I don't like drama in my life.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of women that only date the "bad boys", because they are usually insecure and would not know how to handle a gentleman.

Darren J.
05-10-2009, 02:12 AM
Unfortunately, there are a lot of women that only date the "bad boys", because they are usually insecure and would not know how to handle a gentleman.


That's their loss. They'll learn after being played by a few of them and possibly an STD or 2 later.

PZelda
05-10-2009, 07:01 AM
Hehe. I'm planning on traveling to good 'ole Portland before this year is out, and you betcha your ass I'm going to meet up with Brad while I'm there. :D

Hollywood Rock Chic
05-10-2009, 08:41 AM
That's their loss. They'll learn after being played by a few of them and possibly an STD or 2 later.
I was one of those stupid girls; when I was in my 20's I always dated someone who was an ass; of course I learned my lesson, but the hard way. Nowadays I can smell a jerk a mile away!!! And I never give these type of men the time of day (been there done that, no thanks)

catlover79
05-10-2009, 09:11 AM
That's their loss. They'll learn after being played by a few of them and possibly an STD or 2 later.
OUCH!! (True, though.) :eek: :lol:

MickeyMac
05-10-2009, 02:25 PM
My advice is just be your self; if you are a nice guy, then you are a nice guy; that is a part of your personality. Never try to change to please any woman, because you are only going to be disappointed. Women like men, whom they have chemistry with, nice guys, bad boys, etc.


Now thats cool advice babe :wave:

MickeyMac
05-10-2009, 02:26 PM
That's exactly what I meant - like the guy who brought his MOTHER along on our date. :eek: The less said about that debacle, the better. No, I never went out with him again!



I dont get that!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I usually dont bring my dates anywhere near my mother.

catlover79
05-10-2009, 02:32 PM
Scary, isn't it? :eek: :lol:

TVFactFan
05-10-2009, 02:39 PM
I found an article that I actually put up on the boards a few weeks ago that basically said that it's not always good when a guy is too nice. I definitely have had my moments of meanness in my life, but I have been accused many times of being too nice. Don't get me wrong, if someone goes over the line with me, you can bet that their ass will get it right back, but I'm talking about just regular situations, and in everyday situations, I just find no reason to have hostility, or to be mean. So my question to all the females is, is it unattractive when a man is too nice?? If so, what advice can you give me to change, and maybe be a little more edgy? Should I get meaner, or should I just continue to be myself? One thing I can definitely say is that with all my faults, what you see is what you get with me, and how I am online, is how I am for the most part in real life. For whatever that's worth. My niceness may annoy some people, but you are always getting the true me, I can guarantee you that!! Anyway, anyone have any opinions on this??


Brad when a girl says a guy is too nice just is just saying she wants him to be a little naughty. edgy, and more of a challenge. Not so available and not too agreeable.


That's it man, took me 20 years to learn that and before that I thought it meant a girl wanted to be knocked around and verbally abused.

lilhave
05-10-2009, 07:06 PM
Brad when a girl says a guy is too nice just is just saying she wants him to be a little naughty. edgy, and more of a challenge. Not so available and not too agreeable.


That's it man, took me 20 years to learn that and before that I thought it meant a girl wanted to be knocked around and verbally abused.

Took you 20 years to gain this knowledge. So if your 33, you started acquiring this wisdom at 13. My question is, were you into heavy dating at ten and eleven, before the light hit you?

Can't believe no woman has captured you yet, being the charmer you are.

Harvey

TVFactFan
05-10-2009, 07:16 PM
Took you 20 years to gain this knowledge. So if your 33, you started acquiring this wisdom at 13. My question is, were you into heavy dating at ten and eleven, before the light hit you?

Can't believe no woman has captured you yet, being the charmer you are.

Harvey


Well didn't start dating until my 20's so that's why it was always a struggle but i'm just glad I finally found out before I was 53-lol

Janice
05-10-2009, 08:59 PM
Well didn't start dating until my 20's so that's why it was always a struggle but i'm just glad I finally found out before I was 53-lol
Isn't it great, that after all these years, you've got a guy still so interested in you and your life. Doing the math, figuring things out. Harvey's not the only one who thinks you're a charmer either, as I do as well. Very charming, Solomon. very charming indeed. ;)

catlover79
05-10-2009, 09:06 PM
If that guy tried that again, he was going to get a knee in a very sensitive place. :eek: :lol: It's lucky for him he didn't.

TVFactFan
05-10-2009, 09:59 PM
Isn't it great, that after all these years, you've got a guy still so interested in you and your life. Doing the math, figuring things out. Harvey's not the only one who thinks you're a charmer either, as I do as well. Very charming, Solomon. very charming indeed. ;)


Yup ole Harvey is still doing what he always did best on here, STALKING others-lol

lilhave
05-10-2009, 10:40 PM
Isn't it great, that after all these years, you've got a guy still so interested in you and your life. Doing the math, figuring things out. Harvey's not the only one who thinks you're a charmer either, as I do as well. Very charming, Solomon. very charming indeed. ;)

That's why we have so much in common. Look how we agree.

Harvey

Brian Damage
05-10-2009, 11:13 PM
That's why we have so much in common. Look how we agree.

Harvey


I guess we all agree you are a creepy old man. :lol:

catlover79
05-10-2009, 11:14 PM
I guess we all agree you are a creepy old man. :lol:
Brian said it, I didn't. :rofl:

Darren J.
05-10-2009, 11:32 PM
OUCH!! (True, though.) :eek: :lol:


Perhaps it's a bit cruel, but it's the truth. The biggest joke of them all are the ones who constantly get womanized, yet whine that there are no decent guys.

Marvo301
05-10-2009, 11:32 PM
If that guy tried that again, he was going to get a knee in a very sensitive place. :eek: :lol: It's lucky for him he didn't.
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!! My voice just went up an octave just reading your post!!! :lol:

Stuck In The '70's
05-10-2009, 11:51 PM
Isn't it great, that after all these years, you've got a guy still so interested in you and your life. Doing the math, figuring things out. Harvey's not the only one who thinks you're a charmer either, as I do as well. Very charming, Solomon. very charming indeed. ;)
Some people should just stick to posting lists and telling bad jokes instead of telling people how charming they are. :lol:

LuLu Rogers
05-10-2009, 11:53 PM
I guess we all agree you are a creepy old man. :lol:


:rofl:

LuLu Rogers
05-10-2009, 11:54 PM
Some people should just stick to posting lists and telling bad jokes instead of telling people how charming they are. :lol:


Fine, I'll go back to posting my lists then... ;) :lol:

Chocoholic
05-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Brad, yes you can call me Kristen, and the fact that women here at SO are fighting over you should tell you something :D

Monika, are you sure that guy wasn't the inspiration for Ray Barone or Principal Skinner? :lol:

TVFactFan
05-11-2009, 01:23 PM
That's a good point. I'm turning 21 and I don't think most of the girls are past the bad boy stage yet. That's one of the reasons I don't date. I don't like drama in my life.


You are turning 21??? So why was I talking to you about the 1989 NBA playoffs? I thought you were my age rom how you were talking about the game but now I feel like a fool. I'm having a chat about the 1989 Bulls with someone who was 2 years old at the time

catlover79
05-11-2009, 01:26 PM
Brad, yes you can call me Kristen, and the fact that women here at SO are fighting over you should tell you something :D

Monika, are you sure that guy wasn't the inspiration for Ray Barone or Principal Skinner? :lol:
:rofl: No idea.

catlover79
05-11-2009, 01:27 PM
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!! My voice just went up an octave just reading your post!!! :lol:
I would've done it, too!! :lol:

MickeyMac
05-11-2009, 01:33 PM
I dont get why I lot of guys use obvious bad pick up lines and use phony charm to impress women. Seems to me the best way to impress ladies is to be yourself. Thats what I do, and if they dig me as is thats great, and if not then thats fine too.

Shine
05-11-2009, 01:43 PM
I dont get why I lot of guys use obvious bad pick up lines and use phony charm to impress women. Seems to me the best way to impress ladies is to be yourself. Thats what I do, and if they dig me as is thats great, and if not then thats fine too.


During my first year of college I witnessed a guy walk up to a pretty girl and say, "I wish I had double vision, so than I could see two of yous". :lol: She just tunred to him and said, "Get lost!". :lol:

Darren J.
05-11-2009, 03:44 PM
You are turning 21??? So why was I talking to you about the 1989 NBA playoffs? I thought you were my age rom how you were talking about the game but now I feel like a fool. I'm having a chat about the 1989 Bulls with someone who was 2 years old at the time


I told you not to debate with me about basketball. :lol:

Brad Russ
05-13-2009, 10:27 PM
Hehe. I'm planning on traveling to good 'ole Portland before this year is out, and you betcha your ass I'm going to meet up with Brad while I'm there. :D

Are you serious Allison?? That is freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've known you longer than anyone here, and have wanted to meet you for years!!! I'm sure we'll have a great time together, and you'll be welcome here with open arms. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!! :D

:bighug:

Darren J.
05-13-2009, 11:41 PM
I dont get why I lot of guys use obvious bad pick up lines and use phony charm to impress women. Seems to me the best way to impress ladies is to be yourself. Thats what I do, and if they dig me as is thats great, and if not then thats fine too.


The sad part is many women will fall for it. I'm not trying to put down the female gender in any way, shape, or form. But, some women are just...dumbfounded by men.

beautifuldreamer
05-13-2009, 11:53 PM
But, some women are just...dumbfounded by men.

Yeah, it's kind of the way that some men are just...dumbfounded by women. :lol:

beautifuldreamer
05-13-2009, 11:56 PM
Are you serious Allison?? That is freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've known you longer than anyone here, and have wanted to meet you for years!!! I'm sure we'll have a great time together, and you'll be welcome here with open arms. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!! :D

:bighug:

Please take scads of pictures!!! I just love the ones of Allison and Tara on Allison's myspace... it's so cool to se S.Oers together!! :D

catlover79
05-13-2009, 11:56 PM
Yeah, it's kind of the way that some men are just...dumbfounded by women. :lol:
:nod:

beautifuldreamer
05-13-2009, 11:58 PM
:nod:

Yes, that's the smiley I was going to put, but I settled for the ever popular laughing smiley. :lol:

catlover79
05-13-2009, 11:59 PM
Yes, that's the smiley I was going to put, but I settled for the ever popular laughing smiley. :lol:
Great minds think alike!! :D

Darren J.
05-14-2009, 12:19 AM
Yeah, it's kind of the way that some men are just...dumbfounded by women. :lol:


True. I guess we're all dumbfounded by each other. :lol:

beautifuldreamer
05-14-2009, 03:01 AM
Great minds think alike!! :D

Indeed. ;)

beautifuldreamer
05-14-2009, 03:02 AM
True. I guess we're all dumbfounded by each other. :lol:

I'll go along with that. :D

Brad Russ
05-14-2009, 08:23 AM
Please take scads of pictures!!! I just love the ones of Allison and Tara on Allison's myspace... it's so cool to se S.Oers together!! :D

Oh, you better believe I will. I'll want to show off to the whole S.O. community that I got the chance to meet one of the coolest people in the world. :cool: I've actually known Allison from before we even came to S.O., so her and I go waaay back. :D