View Full Version : Hilary Clinton Makes The Case for Barack
Schmoopie
11-02-2008, 05:11 AM
Although I was glad that Hilary didn't win the Democratic Nomination, I really admire her for writing this article in support of Obama. You don't see many of the other ex-Presidential candidates showing support for their successor. I have to admit that this article is a bit biased, since she does speak a lot about the record of President Clinton, but that's to be expected.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/11/02/2008-11-02_the_man_for_the_moment_hillary_clinton_m-3.html
Andrea
platinumblondelife
11-02-2008, 04:43 PM
I liked Hillary during he primary. I've liked and admired her since I was a little girl!
I LOVE YOU HILLARY!!!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O111VGpFtr4
Hillary acceptance speech before New York.
Dr. John Becker
11-02-2008, 10:41 PM
Hillary is a hypocrite. Just last year, she was calling Obama everything bad she could think of.
Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a Madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage?
This is the question Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s camp is asking about Sen. Barack Obama.
An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia.
"He was a Muslim, but he concealed it," the source said. "His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign."
When contacted by Insight, Mr. Obama’s press secretary said he would consult with “his boss” and call back. He did not.
Sources said the background check, conducted by researchers connected to Senator Clinton, disclosed details of Mr. Obama's Muslim past. The sources said the Clinton camp concluded the Illinois Democrat concealed his prior Muslim faith and education.
"The background investigation will provide major ammunition to his opponents," the source said. "The idea is to show Obama as deceptive."
In two best-selling autobiographies—"The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" and "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance"—Mr. Obama, born in Honolulu where his parents met, mentions but does not expand on his Muslim background, alluding only to his attendance at a "predominantly Muslim school."
The sources said the young Obama was given the name Hussein by his Muslim father, which the Illinois Democrat rarely uses in public.
His father was black and came from Kenya. Mr. Obama’s mother, the daughter of a farmer, came from Wichita, Kansas. Mr. Obama's parents divorced when he was two years old. His father returned to Kenya.
Later, Mr. Obama's mother married an Indonesian student and the family moved to Jakarta. Mr. Obama returned to Hawaii when he was 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.
The sources said the background check concerned Mr. Obama's years in Jakarta. In Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a Madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim. Although Indonesia is regarded as a moderate Muslim state, the U.S. intelligence community has determined that today most of these schools are financed by the Saudi Arabian government and they teach a Wahhabi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims.
Although the background check has not confirmed that the specific Madrassa Mr. Obama attended was espousing Wahhabism, the sources said his Democratic opponents believe this to be the case—and are seeking to prove it. The sources said the opponents are searching for evidence that Mr. Obama is still a Muslim or has ties to Islam.
Mr. Obama attends services at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago’s South Side. However, he is not known to be a regular parishioner.
"Obama's education began a life-long relationship with Islam as a faith and Muslims as a community," the source said. "This has been a relationship that contains numerous question marks."
The sources said Mr. Obama spent at least four years in a Muslim school in Indonesia. They said when Mr. Obama was 10, his mother and her second husband separated. She and her son returned to Hawaii.
"Then the official biography begins," the source said. "Obama never returned to Kenya to see relatives or family until it became politically expedient."
In both of his autobiographies, Mr. Obama characterizes himself as a Christian—although he describes his upbringing as mostly secular.
In “The Audacity of Hope,” Mr. Obama says, "I was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother as secular, but says she had copies of the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita in their home.
Mr. Obama says his father was "raised a Muslim, but by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist...." Mr. Obama also describes his father as largely absent from his life. He says his Indonesian stepfather was "skeptical" about religion and "saw religion as not particularly useful in the practical business of making one's way in the world ...."
In the book, Mr. Obama briefly addresses his education in Indonesia. "During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school; in both cases, my mother was less concerned with me learning the catechism or puzzling out the meaning of the muezzin's call to evening prayer than she was with whether I was properly learning my multiplication tables."
platinumblondelife
11-02-2008, 11:04 PM
She never raised whether or not he was raised in a madrassa. What is the link to the article you posted? Newsmax?
Schmoopie
11-03-2008, 12:02 AM
Hillary is a hypocrite. Just last year, she was calling Obama everything bad she could think of.
Well, of course she did. She was trying to win the democratic nomination! That's exactly why her supporting Obama is so admirable! I've never heard of a losing opponet being so adamant about supporting the winning candidate; Usually once they've lost, you don't hear much about them anymore.
Besides, she has a right to campaign for him. He'll be her president, too!
Andrea
OH Nuts!
11-03-2008, 05:23 AM
I liked Hillary during he primary. I've liked and admired her since I was a little girl!
I LOVE YOU HILLARY!!!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O111VGpFtr4
Hillary acceptance speech before New York.
I was orig. for Hillary too and was very dissappointed for abt a wk when she didn't ge the nom. But I came around & have to say the more I saw of Obama the more I liked him.
littlebelle
11-03-2008, 08:51 PM
I love Hilary, she was my number one choice for the democratic nominee and as president of course. I think I like her because she's a lot like her husband, a smart, solid, relatively conservative democrat.
platinumblondelife
11-03-2008, 10:09 PM
I love Hilary, she was my number one choice for the democratic nominee and as president of course. I think I like her because she's a lot like her husband, a smart, solid, relatively conservative democrat.
Out of curiosity, why do you say that Hillary was a conservative Democrat?
littlebelle
11-04-2008, 01:05 AM
Out of curiosity, why do you say that Hillary was a conservative Democrat?
Well not "a conservative" obviously, but less liberal then Obama on some issues (i.e. abortion).
platinumblondelife
11-04-2008, 01:30 AM
Well not "a conservative" obviously, but less liberal then Obama on some issues (i.e. abortion).
Oh, okay. I'm only asking because I've heard some people say she was a conservative Democrat, but I always thought she was more liberal than Obama on issues, such as healthcare (which imo was a good thing, since I'm liberal lol).
littlebelle
11-04-2008, 04:56 PM
Oh, okay. I'm only asking because I've heard some people say she was a conservative Democrat, but I always thought she was more liberal than Obama on issues, such as healthcare (which imo was a good thing, since I'm liberal lol).
Yeah, they both are pretty different. I just really like her and wish she would have made it, but obviously I'm happy with Obama considering I just voted for him like an hour ago, lol.
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