ABC Upfront: Fall 2008

[tvcrazed]

I assume if CRASH COURSE is Wed that there won't be any original stuff on Thurs besides the 2 weeks of Millionaire. Even though CC is a perfect fit out of WIPEOUT, I liked CC airing out of Millionaire on THURS because it is the one night of the week where there is no other reality at 9pm (SYTYCD ends next week I think?). This way, after Millionaire ends, CC could slide back to 8pm and GA and PP can come back. Wed could be double WIPEOUTS. I think you are correct that CC is going to WED because ABC has added extra GREYS reruns from early in the season, the next few weeks, and I am sure they are gonna rerun all of them. Based on that it sounds as if they are sticking with GA and PP from 9-11pm on Thurs. I don't think they should pre-empt WIPEOUT for 2 weeks, though. It's their highest rated Summer show. Even a rerun should air. So if they do launch CC out Millionaire, those (2) weeks they should run WIPEOUT (r) at 10pm on Wed

[tvcrazed]

Regardless how these shows perform, and I hope at least one or 2 pop in the ratings, I give ABC props for trying to launch some new franchses this SUMMER. They have picked shows that suit their brand and scheduled them well for the most part. They were also able to air select reruns to make some money back but not air incessant reruns and they were able to air fresh eps of critically acclaimed (although unfortunately low rated) BOT, to hopefully espose it to new eyeballs. This is their best Summer in terms of plannning and scheduling and trying to launch some new hit shows, in recent memory and I commend them for that.

[tvcrazed]

The WHite House has just moved the press conferance up to 8p

[Brent88]

Boo! Screw him.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/politics/cbs_to_carry_obama_news_conf_no_decision_from_nbc_abc_or_fox_122056.asp

I hope ABC goes with Wipeout instead. :mad: Only CBS is covering it so far.

[tvcrazed]

Honestly it is much easier to cover it now then during the regular season. They can either move the WIPEOUT to 9pm or run the rerun scheduled for next week at 8pm in other time zones other than the east and the new one can air next week.

During the Fall season I could see some nets saying we are not gonna cover it and have their cable channels run it, but there are so many night of reruns now (where nets can reschedule Wed shows) and the ratings don't count, that honestly everyone should air this.

[Brent88]

Honestly it is much easier to cover it now then during the regular season. They can either move the WIPEOUT to 9pm or run the rerun scheduled for next week at 8pm in other time zones other than the east and the new one can air next week.

During the Fall season I could see some nets saying we are not gonna cover it and have their cable channels run it, but there are so many night of reruns now (where nets can reschedule Wed shows) and the ratings don't count, that honestly everyone should air this.

That is a good point. I'd much rather see it now than in May Sweeps or premiere week in September. But it still annoys me.

and I didn't know a repeat was scheduled for next week. That makes it easier to deal with.

[Pavan]

This is how Wednesday, July 22 will look now on ABC due to the Obama News Conference:

Eastern/Central:

8:00 PM ET/7:00 PM CT: President Obama News Conference (Live)
9:00 PM ET/8:00 PM CT: “Wipeout” (all-new)
10:02 PM ET/9:02 PM CT: “I Survived a Japanese Game Show” (all-new)

Mountain:
6:00 PM: President Obama News Conference (Live)
7:00 PM: “Wipeout” (all-new)
8:02 PM: “I Survived a Japanese Game Show” (all-new)
9:00 PM: “Primetime Crime” (R)

Pacific:
5:00 PM: President Obama News Conference (Live)
6:00 PM: Local News/World News with Charles Gibson
6:30 PM: Local News/World News with Charles Gibson
7:00 PM: Local Programming
8:00 PM: “Wipeout” (all-new)
9:02 PM: “I Survived a Japanese Game Show” (all-new)
10:00 PM: “Primetime Crime” (R)


A Special Edition of 20/20 - “Over A Barrel: The Truth About Oil” will now be scheduled to air on Friday, July 24, 2009 at 10:00 PM ET/PT time period.

[Scoobiedoo30]

So ABC is Deciding to air The President Address.

[tvcrazed]

That's cool.

Poor Charlie Gibson he is everywhere promoting that interview. Wonder why they didn't move it to next Wed

[Brent88]

Good moves IMO, I'll be extremely curious to see how Wipeout does against AGT.

[Pavan]

Shaq Vs. will air through Sept. 15, so 5 episodes.

[Pavan]

Crash Course promos start tonight. "Coming in August" is the line I think. It premiere during the Superstars, then tomorrow during Wipeout & Japanese Game Show.

[Brent88]

No surprise but Wipeout renewed for next summer! :D

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i00860fac3d23b30e060181e0767a26ae

[Scoobiedoo30]

Great News that Wipeout got a 3rd season

[Brent88]

ABC has set a time for its new auto-obstacle-course reality show, "Crash Course."

"Crash" will air Wednesdays at 9 p.m. starting Aug. 26. That's the slot "I Survived a Japanese Game Show (http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/i-survived-a-japanese-game-show/EP01046188)" currently holds. An original "Wipeout (http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/wipeout/EP01046187)" will serve as lead-in, giving viewers two hours of obstacle course mayhem.

By getting a late-summer start, the show keeps the time period warm going into September, when ABC plans to debut its new two-hour comedy block on the night.

http://reporter.blogs.com/live_feed/

[Pavan]

Couple of schedules notes:

Fridays, Effective Friday, August 14, 2009
8:00PM Supernanny (repeats)
9:00PM Ugly Betty (repeats)

Saturday, August 15, 2009
8:00-10:00PM ABC Saturday Movie Of The Week “Shark Tale”
10:00PM Castle (R)

Wednesday, Aug. 26 through and including Wednesday, Sept. 16, 2009
9:02PM-10:00PM Crash Course

Saturday, August 29, 2009
10:00PM JIMMY KIMMEL'S BIG NIGHT OF STARS (R)

[Pavan]

Couple of changes:

Shark Tank:
“Shark Tank” is scheduled to air additional airings on Sundays, August 30, September 6 and 13, 2009 at 9:00 PM ET/PT.
“Shark Tank” is also still scheduled to air on Sundays, August 9, 16 and 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM ET/PT after "Who Wants To Be a Millionaire?" However, “Shark Tank” is no longer scheduled to air on Tuesdays, effective August 25, 2009 in the 8:00 PM ET/PT slot. Tuesdays at 8PM starting Aug. 25 is now TBD.
(Shark Tank will likely move to Tuesdays at 8 starting Sept. 15)

Grey's Anatomy double-encores:
Encore episodes of “Grey’s Anatomy” are scheduled to air on Thursdays, August 27, September 3, 10 and 17, 2009 at 8:00 PM ET/PT.
“Grey’s Anatomy” is also scheduled to air in its regular 9:00 PM ET/PT slot on these dates as well.

Special Defying Gravity encore:
An encore episode of “Defying Gravity” is scheduled to air on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 at 9:00 PM ET/PT following "Who Wants To Be a Millionaire?"

(Also, see post #1266 for some further changes)

[tvcrazed]

Am I mistaken or are they seriously preempting WIPEOUT for the 2 weeks that MILLIONAIRE is on? I thought they would move WIPEOUT to 9pm and ISAJGS to Tues at 9pm at least for the 11th. Or run WIEPOUT at 9p, ISAJGS at 10pm on Wed, but it doesn't seem like they are doing that (at least for the 12th). Could that make any less sense?

The only thing I can think of is that they are conserving the new WIPEOUTS to use Tues at 8pm in early SEP, but still A WIPEOUT rerun would do better than PRIMETIME. They should not take it off for 2 weeks.

[tvcrazed]

Actually If I remember correctly their order was only for 16 eps, in which case they don't have enough to air originals for those 2 weeks if they want to go until the first Wed of the Fall season (all the more reason they shouldn't have doubled 2 originals that Wednesday in June). But I would still air reruns. You don't take off your top show of the Summer for 2 weeks. I don't get why reruns are scheduld on Sat nights and weekend afternoons, but not primtime during the week where they would do so much better.

[Pavan]

Wipeout originals schedule:

2/1/09: #206 (Wipeout Bowl Edition)
5/27/09: #210
6/3/09: #202
6/10/09: #214 and #205 (9pm)
6/17/09: #203
6/24/09: #216 (Ice Age Promotion)
7/1/09: #213
7/8/09: #208 (Couples Edition)
7/15/09: #209
7/22/09: #204 (9pm)
7/29/09: (R of #208)
8/5/09: #212 (All-Stars Edition)

Final four of the season (unconfirmed episode dates, but these are the final 4 of the season)
8/26/09: #201
9/2/09: #207
9/9/09: #211
9/16/09: #215

[Pavan]

Some changes:

Tuesday, July 28, 2009
8:00pm-10:00pm The Bachelorette (finale encore, replaces Superstars finale/Better off Ted) -- leads into all-new scheduled After the Rose special at 10pm.

Monday, August 3, 2009
10:00pm Dating in the Dark (all-new, replaces Castle repeat) -- Dating will also still air at 9pm on this date as scheduled. Castle repeats will return Aug. 10 at 10pm.

Tuesday, August 4, 2009
8:00pm-9:30pm The Superstars season finale (replaces Scrubs repeats)
9:30pm Scrubs (R, replaces all-new Better off Ted)

Tuesday, August 11, 2009
9:00-10:00pm Better off Ted (all-new one-hour season finale, replaces Defying Gravity encore)

[Pavan]

Saturday, August 22, 2009
8:00pm According to Jim (R)
8:30pm-11pm ABC Saturday Movie Of The Week - “War Of The Worlds” (R)

Sunday, August 29, 2009
8:00pm ABC Saturday Movie Of The Week (R)
10:00pm JIMMY KIMMEL'S BIG NIGHT OF STARS (R, as I announced already)

[Pavan]

“Wipeout” is now scheduled to air on Wednesday, August 12 and 19, 2009 at 9:00 PM ET/PT following "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" The season finale of “I Survived A Japanese Game Show” is now scheduled to air on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 from 9:02-11:00 PM ET/PT.

[tvcrazed]

Did they cut an hour? Unless I am mistaken it was a 10 ep order, seems like that is only 9 hours right?

[Pavan]

Yeah, looks like it was cut to just 9 episodes.

[Brent88]

“Wipeout” is now scheduled to air on Wednesday, August 12 and 19, 2009 at 9:00 PM ET/PT following "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" The season finale of “I Survived A Japanese Game Show” is now scheduled to air on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 from 9:02-11:00 PM ET/PT.

YAY, very good move.

[tvcrazed]

Since the August 12th WIPEOUT is new, I hope this means they put WIPEOUT back in production to crank out 5-6 more shows that they can use til Middle of Sep and they can run them Tuesdays at 8pm too.

[JulieSomoski]

Since the August 12th WIPEOUT is new, I hope this means they put WIPEOUT back in production to crank out 5-6 more shows that they can use til Middle of Sep and they can run them Tuesdays at 8pm too.

They should. I don't see the problem with adding 3 or 4 episodes to the order, which should take them to mid-September. That's assuming, of course, the old course hasn't been destroyed yet - I know they're currently working on building an all new course for season 3.

[DSfan]

Could somebody please remind me what is happening with Millionaire?

Is it premiering Aug 9 at 9pm?

[Brent88]

Could somebody please remind me what is happening with Millionaire?

Is it premiering Aug 9 at 9pm?

August 9 at 8. It'll air for 11 nights at 8 each night Sunday-Thursday through August 23rd.

[yankeesrj12]

“Wipeout” is now scheduled to air on Wednesday, August 12 and 19, 2009 at 9:00 PM ET/PT following "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" The season finale of “I Survived A Japanese Game Show” is now scheduled to air on Wednesday, August 5, 2009 from 9:02-11:00 PM ET/PT.
Great decision to air Wipeout after Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. ABC made a good decision. GASP! :D

Saturday, August 22, 2009
8:00pm According to Jim (R)
Yikes!

[ryan423]

I'll be going to a taping of Millionaire on August 5th! Can't wait!

[Pavan]

I'm going Friday (July 31). Hoping to go to both tapings that day.

[ryan423]

I'm going Friday (July 31). Hoping to go to both tapings that day.

I hope it's in HD when it airs. Any chance of the daytime version going HD soon?

BTW Pavan, my close friend goes to tons of tapings, and they usually let you stay for both tapings in the same day.

[tvcrazed]

Doesn't look like they ordered more WIPEOUT's. THis is from their twitter page:

Sorry folks. It's our first repeat of the season. All Star Wipeout next week. Five new episodes to come. Enjoy COUPLES WIPEOUT.

[Pavan]

I don't think they need to order any. There were some episodes they can reair that aired on a special time of 9pm (i.e. the one that aired after Obama's news conference).

They can do this for the final 6 weeks:

Aug. 12 - new (confirmed)
Aug. 19 - repeat (the one that aired after Obama's conference)
Aug. 26 - new
Sept. 2 - new (confirmed)
Sept. 9 - repeat (maybe the Wipeout Bowl or the one that aired at 9pm in June)
Sept. 16 - new

[tvcrazed]

I agree. I assumed the 19th would be a rerun after Millionaire and 26th and 9th would be new to lead into CRASH COURSE.

Or Sep 9th could be new and the last one could be a recap of the whole season.

I guess they feel they can't rerun the WIPEOUT bowl, I just assume that,. because they haven't run it yet

[Zedman2]

ABC Summer press tour schedule, show bios, photos, video and more

http://www.abcmedianet.com/specials/09spt/index.shtml

[Pavan]

An encore episode of “Shaq Vs.” is scheduled to air on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 8:00 PM ET/PT.
“Shaq Vs.” is still scheduled to air in its regular 9:00 PM ET/PT slot on this date.

[Pavan]

An encore episode of “Dating In The Dark” is scheduled to air on Monday, August 24, 2009 at 8:00 ET/PT.
“Dating In The Dark” season finale is still scheduled to air at 9:00 PM ET/PT on this date.

[Pavan]

Couple of late summer updates:

Saturday, August 15
10:00pm Shark Tank (pilot encore, replaces Castle repeat)

Tuesday, September 1
8:00pm Crash Course (special night and time)

Monday, September 7 (Labor Day)
8:00pm Castle (R)
9:00pm Castle (R)
(In addition to the regularly scheduled 10pm repeat)

Tuesday, September 8 and 15
8:00pm Shaq Vs. (repeats)
(Leading into all-new episodes at 9)

I thought they would schedule the Whitney Houston special, but looks like that won't air now?

[tvcrazed]

It's funny but i was expecting/hoping ABC would rerun Shark Tank on Sat night. But I actually thought they might/was hoping they would run a WIPEOUT rerun at 8p then ST. Normally, as you know, I am not a fan of wasting WIPEOUT reruns on Sat night, but since they are not running them during the week and it gets a 1.0 on Sat night, I thought that would be a better lead in to ST then an animated film.

[Pavan]

Last week of summer will have two movies, both network television debuts:

Monday, September 14, 2009
8:00pm-11:00pm ABC Monday Movie of the Week "Dreamgirls"

Sunday, September 20, 2009
7:00pm-11:00pm ABC Sunday Movie of the Week "King Kong"

[mtlguy]

Defying Gravity is moving to Fridays in Canada on CTV starting on August 28th. This probably means that ABC is airing the last episode this Sunday or that it will also move to Friday.

Would you know what ABC intends to do Pavan?

[Pavan]

ABC hasn't announced anything. It is still slated to air Sundays at 10 through Sept. 13.

[tvcrazed]

Shaq did well last night considering it's up against 2 huge reality hits. PRIMETIME has been tanking all SUMMER. Shaq had 1.7 and last night PRIMETIME got a 1.1. I really wonder why ABC doesn't use this 10pm slot better. Next week. I'd rerun this past week's Shaq at 10p. Clearly some people are watching it against much compeption. Even if it holds the 1.7 from 9pm that's better than a 1.1. Either that or another Shark Tank. I know this will never happen, just my 2 cents. Plus ABC is using a lot of promo slots for PREIMTIME and it doesn't deliver.

[Pavan]

ABC News Special: Remembering Ted Kennedy airs tonight at 10pm instead of Primetime: Crime. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2009/08/wgn-america-fall-2009-schedule-notes.html

Primetime: Crime has done decent, tvcrazed. The Outsiders is a bit low though. Family Secrets did OK, but helped by Michael Jackson a few times.

[tvcrazed]

Maybe I am wrong but outside of a week or two, PRIMETIME:CRIME has been getting a 1.3 most weeks (definitely last week out of WIPEOUT). That slot, in my opinion, could have been put to better use. It's one of very few slots where there is no major competition for ABC and they could schedule or rerun a potential new reality show. (Shark Tank for example which got a .9 on Sat night out of an animated movie, could have benefited for another airing here when there are 2 drama reruns on other nets). Last year PRIMETIME scored well, but it isn't this year and to schedule new potential reality shows against other reality hits when there is a better slot available doesn't make sense to me. SHARK TANK airs against one of the highest rated shows of the week 18-49 period. TRUE BLOOD got a 2.8 this past SUNDAY and still ST did decently. All I am saying is another play wouldn't hurt here. SHAQ is doing very decently considering it's had little promotion and airs against 2 big reality hits. It's not as if those PRIMETIME's are dated. they can be saved for later use. It seems that MEDICAL MYSTERIES and WWYD are the better rated PRIMETIME franchises.

[Pavan]

I agree with you. I think Crime does better than that though. Primetime: Crime track: 1.6 (Aug. 19), 1.5 (Aug 12), 1.3 (July 29), 1.6 (July 15), 2.0 (July 8), 1.4 (July 1).

It does better than the other Primetime series and it is doing better than last year. I think Shark Tank got a 0.6 for a repeat on Saturday, Aug. 15.

[tvcrazed]

guess it changed in the finals

[tvcrazed]

ST has been consistent at a 1.8 the last 3 weeks. If I were ABC I would pull DG the next 2 weeks (they clearly aren't running all the episodes now anyway) and air another ST at 10p.

[JulieSomoski]

ST has been consistent at a 1.8 the last 3 weeks. If I were ABC I would pull DG the next 2 weeks (they clearly aren't running all the episodes now anyway) and air another ST at 10p.

I agree - a 1.8 is decent for summer but its not going to cut it in the fall. ABC might as well air double episodes on Sundays until the 27th and get it out of the way.

[tvcrazed]

I agree - a 1.8 is decent for summer but its not going to cut it in the fall. ABC might as well air double episodes on Sundays until the 27th and get it out of the way.

Well my thinking is that since it grows during the hour, it could grow even more from 10-11pm, not to mention that TRUE BLOOD (which is getting a 2.8 18-49) is not on at 10pm, although TB is not on next week.

But the truth is, if it doesn't grow more than a 1.8, they can't air at it 8p on Tuesday with heavy competition. But this show is a very viable concept and one that there is clearly some audience for, so if it doesn't air in Fall they should air it in Summer. Although if one of ABC's dramas flops this show could do very well following a big sized reality audience like DWTS. It gets a 1.8 by itself growing out of its lead in. I imagine out of a 4.5 it could do close to a 3.

[JulieSomoski]

Well my thinking is that since it grows during the hour, it could grow even more from 10-11pm, not to mention that TRUE BLOOD (which is getting a 2.8 18-49) is not on at 10pm, although TB is not on next week.

But the truth is, if it doesn't grow more than a 1.8, they can't air at it 8p on Tuesday with heavy competition. But this show is a very viable concept and one that there is clearly some audience for, so if it doesn't air in Fall they should air it in Summer. Although if one of ABC's dramas flops this show could do very well following a big sized reality audience like DWTS. It gets a 1.8 by itself growing out of its lead in. I imagine out of a 4.5 it could do close to a 3.

I really don't think this show has a shot either way. Getting under 5 million viewers in the summer is not good. It lost audience from its repeat lead-in and isn't going anywhere in terms of ratings. A 1.8 rating is decent, but it'll be against much tougher competition airings on Tuesdays. They'd be better off just airing Dancing recaps in its place.

[tvcrazed]

They'd be better off just airing Dancing recaps in its place.

Which is what I imagine they'll do until V premieres Nov 3rd.

I could also see them using Tues at 8p Sep 29th to rerun one of their new dramas or comedies. I assume the first Friday (9/25) from 8-10p will be reruns of new shows - maybe comedies at 8p and at 9pm FLASH FORWARD, so Tues at 8p that week they could either rerun EASTWICK or FORGOTTEN or another run of the comedies or FF. I guess they will see how their shows perform and if there is potential for growth maybe encore one of those.