Aretha Franklin Slams Beyonce Over Tina Turner Intro

[Zoneboy]

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080213/ap_en_ce/people_aretha_franklin;_ylt=As9JTInFikAb2_ZRyjZPRkhxFb8C)


LOS ANGELES - When Aretha Franklin is unhappy, she does not mince words. On Tuesday, the longtime Queen of Soul slammed Beyonce Knowles' intro to Tina Turner at Sunday's Grammy Awards, in which Knowles called Turner, not Franklin, "the queen."


"I am not sure of whose toes I may have stepped on or whose ego I may have bruised between the Grammy writers and Beyonce," Franklin said in a statement issued by her publicist. "However, I dismissed it as a cheap shot for controversy."

E-mails to Knowles' publicist Yvette Noel-Schure and calls and e-mails to Recording Academy spokeswomen Jaime Sarachit and Barb Deghan were not immediately returned.

In the first few seconds of Knowles' intro to Turner's performance, she name-dropped Franklin and a long list of famed female singers. Then the "Crazy in Love" chanteuse focused on Turner.

"There is one legend who has the essence of all of those things: the glamour, the soul, the passion, the strength, the talent," said Knowles, strutting in hot pants. "Ladies and gentlemen. Stand on your feet and give it up for the queen."

At a party later that night, Knowles called Turner her "ultimate icon."

Still, Franklin ended her brief criticism on a gracious note, thanking the Grammys and the voting academy and saying, "love to Beyonce anyway."

Known for such hits as "Respect" and "Chain of Fools," Franklin tied with the Clark Sisters for best gospel performance trophy for her duet "Never Gonna Break My Faith" with Mary J. Blige.

[Ireneparalegal]

Oh give me a f***** break here woman! Tina IS THE QUEEN!

[88survivor]

Oh, no! Another pissed off celebrity....when is it going to end? :rolleyes: Soon, Aretha going to have a bitch fight. Suddenly, her only weapon is a hambone against Amy Winehouse and Beyonce....she probably use other secret weapons......her knockers. She'll K.O-ed Amy and Beyonce to the hospital room while singing "Chain of Fools".

[Ireneparalegal]

Oh, no! Another pissed off celebrity....when is it going to end? :rolleyes: Soon, Aretha going to have a bitch fight. Suddenly, her only weapon is a hambone against Amy Winehouse and Beyonce....she probably use other secret weapons......her knockers. She K.O-ed Amy and Beyonce to the hospital room.
:brent

Thank you for that visualization. ;)

I agree, what the hell is going on here? Remember the days when people went to awards shows, they either performed or just went to have a good time. Now, they have the internet and the media at their feet and they decide to "vent" their feelings. Was she under the influence of alcohol perhaps? Is she edgy and cranky because of her diet? Hmmmm.....

[Cactus Jack]

Oh give me a f***** break here woman! Tina IS THE QUEEN!
I actually expected her to say Aretha,cause she's had that title forever

[Ireneparalegal]

I actually expected her to say Aretha,cause she's had that title forever
Aretha is the queen of soul. Tina is THE QUEEN. :D

[OH Nuts!]

Oh give me a f***** break here woman! Tina IS THE QUEEN!

Darn tootin'!!! Tina radiates sexiness and oozes talent from every pore. Still HOT @ 68. Fabulous legs. And that electric energy & talent. And when she dumped that coked up violent jerk she showed all exactly who was riding whose coattails. Tina IS ABSOLUTELY The Queen,. Long live the QUEEN. TINA!!! What's love got to do with it? LOTS! I effin love that woman! Strong sassy powerful talented. A combo that works for me.

Retha you wanna be a queen drop 150 lbs and get some of that Tina electricity. And don't you go b**ch slapping Beyonce around. It ain't queenly.

[Dean Winchester]

Aretha gets all the credit, but Tina ****S all over that fat piece of lard anyways

[Ireneparalegal]

Darn tootin'!!! Tina radiates sexiness and oozes talent from every pore. Still HOT @ 68. Fabulous legs. And that electric energy & talent. And when she dumped the coked up violent yutz she showed all exactly who was riding whose coattails. Tina IS ABSOLUTELY The Queen,. Long live the QUEEN. TINA!!! What's love got to do with it? LOTS! I effin love that woman! Strong sassy and a powerful example to all that you can change your life.

Retha you wanna be a queen drop 150 lbs and get some of that Tina electricity.
CAN I HEAR AN AMEN PEOPLE?!!!!!!AMEN!!:cool:

[Dean Winchester]

I find it funny Aretha would be upset that Beyonce might be a bigger fan of Tina's than her. I mean, Aretha's ass gets kissed more often than ANYONE in the industry, even including The Beatles. She's considered an icon and a queen by so many, so why does it bother her that there are people out there who think Tina is the consumate performer over her?

[Ireneparalegal]

Does Aretha have a clause in her contracts that she must be referred to as THE QUEEN? Does Aretha say anything abt Queen Elizabeth being referred to as THE QUEEN? ;)

[OH Nuts!]

Does Aretha have a clause in her contracts that she must be referred to as THE QUEEN? Does Aretha say anything abt Queen Elizabeth being referred to as THE QUEEN? ;)


Oh Oh. Hope Lady Soul doesn't have a hissy fit on Queen E!:lol: :crazy:

[Ireneparalegal]

Oh Oh. Hope Lady Soul doesn't have a hissy fit on Queen E!:lol: :crazy:
Can you imagine that happening? Lady Soul arrives at Buckingham Palace for a gala performance. When she hears the words, THE QUEEN, Aretha stands up and soon realizes those words were meant for QE2. Suddenly, Aretha begins to huff and puff and with a swift turn, lunges at her manager and heaves her large bosoms in his face, causing him to suffocate! :eek:

[OH Nuts!]

Or she could just sit on the offending party like a Sumo Wrestler!:lol:

[Dean Winchester]

Aretha is in fact the queen.... The Queen of Blobs :)

[Ireneparalegal]

Rich and John...:rofl: You guys kill me! :lol:

[OH Nuts!]

Maybe if we all feed her 5 apple pies, 2 pizzas, and some Diet Coke,she'll calm down. (Oh man, I'm being real bad...but what the h*ll--you don't diss Tina!)

[Dean Winchester]

Maybe if we all feed her 5 apple pies, 2 pizzas, and some Diet Coke,she'll calm down. (Oh man, I'm being real bad...but what the h*ll--you don't diss Tina!)
I agree. You'd think legends like Aretha would respect a friendly rivalry with someone like Tina or Dionne Warwick or Diana Ross or another black diva who rose to fame in the Kennedy administration. It shows a lack of class for her to lose her **** like that. I mean, if Paul McCartney was at an awards show and someone called The Rolling Stones or The Who their favorite band, I don't think Paul would issue a "who the **** does ____ think he is preferring The Who's music to mine?!!??!". Paul's comfortable in his own skin and can accept that there are people out there who might like other "British Invasion" bands to The Beatles.

[OH Nuts!]

I agree. You'd think legends like Aretha would respect a friendly rivalry with someone like Tina or Dionne Warwick or Diana Ross or another black diva who rose to fame in the Kennedy administration. It shows a lack of class for her to lose her **** like that. I mean, if Paul McCartney was at an awards show and someone called The Rolling Stones or The Who their favorite band, I don't think Paul would issue a "who the **** does ____ think he is preferring The Who's music to mine?!!??!". Paul's comfortable in his own skin and can accept that there are people out there who might like other "British Invasion" bands to The Beatles.

Here here!!! Well said!!!

[Ireneparalegal]

Well said John. It is bad enough hearing the younger generation of celebs dissing each other in certain ways, but here we have OLDER PEOPLE (Aretha, Natalie, who else?) talking smack, saying sh*t, feeding the media with stuff that is just downright rude and petty, when did this become the "norm"?

[OH Nuts!]

when their talent and egoes got threatened. It's not fun to watch that's for sure.

[Dean Winchester]

Well said John. It is bad enough hearing the younger generation of celebs dissing each other in certain ways, but here we have OLDER PEOPLE (Aretha, Natalie, who else?) talking smack, saying sh*t, feeding the media with stuff that is just downright rude and petty, when did this become the "norm"?
I agree. Aretha is in her 60's, her place in music history is secure. Why get so upset that there is room for other legends? I mean, there are people who prefer The Stones and The Who to The Beatles, there are people who prefer Jerry Lee Lewis and Johnny Cash to Elvis, there are people who prefer David Bowie and Queen to Elton John, there are people who prefer Prince and Stevie Wonder to Michael Jackson, there are people who prefer Janet Jackson and Whitney Houston to Madonna, etc... You're all legends, why does it matter if someone is more influenced by another rival than you?

Aretha is a great singer, but if it comes down between her and Tina, you can't even compare Aretha to Tina IMO.

[Ireneparalegal]

I agree. Aretha is in her 60's, her place in music history is secure. Why get so upset that there is room for other legends? I mean, there are people who prefer The Stones and The Who to The Beatles, there are people who prefer Jerry Lee Lewis and Johnny Cash to Elvis, there are people who prefer David Bowie and Queen to Elton John, there are people who prefer Prince and Stevie Wonder to Michael Jackson, there are people who prefer Janet Jackson and Whitney Houston to Madonna, etc... You're all legends, why does it matter if someone is more influenced by another rival than you?

Aretha is a great singer, but if it comes down between her and Tina, you can't even compare Aretha to Tina IMO.
Tina and Aretha have their place in history. As women, there should be NO ANIMOSITY regarding "titles". One is soul, the other rocks. I think Aretha should be worried abt her health and how long she will last with all that weight on her, rather than worry what Beyonce said or was told to say.

If I can be honest, I would rather someone knock Whitney for calling Bobby Brown the KING OF R&B, now that was when someone should have stood up and screamed abt that!!!!!:lol:

[SBTB Geek]

All these old celebrities are overrated.

[88survivor]

It's the blame game all over again. Diana Ross disses poor people in Jamaica. Natalie disses Amy Winehouse. Aretha disses Tina Turner and Beyonce. Ono sues the band Lennon because of John's name. Do I see a pattern here? What's next? Scott Baio is going blame Tom Cruise for brainwashing Katie Holmes, dissing Scientology(though I love to see that for a change), and poking fun at Brooke Shields? How about a title for these four women.

"Three Holier Than Thou Crazy Black Ladies and A Weird Asian Woman" Coming to a trainwreck near you.

[Zoneboy]

All these old celebrities are overrated.

:lol: So are alot of the new ones.

[88survivor]

Especially with Diana Ross yelling at poor people...:crazy: :rolleyes:

[Dean Winchester]

All these old celebrities are overrated.
maybe so, but we wouldn't be where we are now without then. People like Christina wouldn't be here if not for Aretha, or same with Beyonce and Tina. The old icons pave the way for those to follow

[Dr. Thong]

Aretha is the queen of soul. Tina is THE QUEEN. :D

I think this lady would disagree with you...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Elizabeth_II_greets_NASA_GSFC_employees%2C_May_8%2C_2007_edit.jpg/262px-Elizabeth_II_greets_NASA_GSFC_employees%2C_May_8%2C_2007_edit.jpg

[88survivor]

:lol: I believe Aretha would use her sumo wrestling techniques on Elizabeth and body slam her to Buckingham Palace.

[Janice]

It's the blame game all over again. Diana Ross disses poor people in Jamaica. Natalie disses Amy Winehouse. Aretha disses Tina Turner and Beyonce. Ono sues the band Lennon because of John's name. Do I see a pattern here? What's next? Scott Baio is going blame Tom Cruise for brainwashing Katie Holmes, dissing Scientology(though I love to see that for a change), and poking fun at Brooke Shields? How about a title for these four women.

"Three Holier Than Thou Crazy Black Ladies and A Weird Asian Woman" Coming to a trainwreck near you.
Recently, Patti LaBelle was claiming racism and criticizing today's artists. She singled someone out, but can't remember who.

Irene?????

[Dean Winchester]

Recently, Patti LaBelle was claiming racism and criticizing today's artists. She singled someone out, but can't remember who.

Irene?????
it was Celine Dion, she blew a fuse because Celine's version of "If You Asked Me To" was a bigger hit than Patti's original.

[Janice]

it was Celine Dion, she blew a fuse because Celine's version of "If You Asked Me To" was a bigger hit than Patti's original.
Thanks John. These celebs are cracking me up. :lol:

[Dean Winchester]

Thanks John. These celebs are cracking me up. :lol:
I think all these old ladies like Aretha, Natalie, Patti, Yoko and the sort are sick of seeing Britney and Amy Winehouse getting all the attention, so they're saying stupid crap about other artists to get some of the spotlight on them :lol:

[Ireneparalegal]

Beyonce's father slams back with a response to Aretha's comments:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23143709#23155046


OMG, I can't believe he mentioned Queen Elizabeth!! :rofl: He and I think alike. ;) :cool:

[Dean Winchester]

CNN just showed the photo of an angry Aretha that a frightened photographer snapped just moments before Aretha Franklin took a swing at him for asking about what Beyonce said during the Grammys:

http://www.blessedquietness.com/jabba.jpg

[Brieannas21]

I thought they were both Queens....Aretha the QUEEN OF SOUL and Tina the QUEEN OF ROCK AND ROLL.

Two different types of music. So they're both right.

[Pitooey]

CNN just showed the photo of an angry Aretha that a frightened photographer snapped just moments before Aretha Franklin took a swing at him for asking about what Beyonce said during the Grammys:

http://www.blessedquietness.com/jabba.jpg

OMGoodness............ LOL....... You guys are so funny.

These titles are so stupid but if anything I think what you said Briannas21 is right.

Tina = Queen of Rock and Roll

Aretha = Queen of soul

That sounds about right to me.

[Dean Winchester]

I thought they were both Queens....Aretha the QUEEN OF SOUL and Tina the QUEEN OF ROCK AND ROLL.

Two different types of music. So they're both right.
very true, that's why I lost respect for Aretha over this. It's like how Dolly Parton is generally regarded as the queen of country, Madonna is called the queen of pop, Mary J. Blige is labelled the queen of hip hop soul. I figured Aretha had more class than that, she and Tina have both been around for a good fifty years now, I would've figured there was mutual respect between the two of them for the others accomplishments.

Elvis and Michael Jackson are both commonly referred to as "The King", with Elvis Rock and MJ Pop. I've never seen Lisa Marie or anyone else in Elvis' estate complaining when MJ is called the King, because they're kings of different things.

[Ireneparalegal]

If you see the video, that is what is said by Whoopi Goldberg on The View. However, Beyonce was stating THE QUEEN, not The Queen of Soul. Besides, why should Aretha care who is called what? Is there a clause in her contract that only she be called that? Is it trademarked? :lol: Aretha needs to loosen up the girdle a bit there and not make it so darn personal. They are both queens and should leave it at that.

[Dean Winchester]

OMGoodness............ LOL....... You guys are so funny.

These titles are so stupid but if anything I think what you said Briannas21 is right.

Tina = Queen of Rock and Roll

Aretha = Queen of soul

That sounds about right to me.
I agree, and I think the labels are stupid and all truly a matter of personal opinion. I mean, Michael Jackson is considered the "King of Pop", but there are probably people out there who feel that Elton John or Paul McCartney deserves the title more. I think who is "King" and "Queen" should be all your personal preference.

I just find it funny that Aretha is that insecure that she can't handle someone thinking Tina is better than her. Aretha's butt has been kissed for years by fellow r&b and pop divas and critics, and she was the first female in the Hall Of Fame, she should be secure about her accomplishments that it won't bother her if someone thinks that Tina is better.

[Ireneparalegal]

Maybe Aretha would have been happy had Tina been called the Queen of Domestic Violence. :crazy:

I mean, really, what does THE QUEEN really mean? It could mean a generalization of all the ladies in the music business and Tina having been the one to start the ball rolling for ladies in rock & roll. People back then assumed a black woman could sing only blues or R&B, but Tina proved a black woman can sing all of that and then some. ;)

[Janice]

I haven't read much of this thread, but I just want to say that Aretha Franklin has been The Queen of Soul since the 60s. That is an indisputable fact. Just like Elvis is The King. People may not like these titles, but they are there, and have been there for years. Same as Jackson as the King of Pop, and Frank Sinatra was Ole' Blue Eyes. Some things are what they are, like it or not.

[Dean Winchester]

Maybe Aretha would have been happy had Tina been called the Queen of Domestic Violence. :crazy:

I mean, really, what does THE QUEEN really mean? It could mean a generalization of all the ladies in the music business and Tina having been the one to start the ball rolling for ladies in rock & roll. People back then assumed a black woman could sing only blues or R&B, but Tina proved a black woman can sing all of that and then some. ;)
I agree. Aretha is/was a great vocalist, but I always thought Tina brought so much more when she'd step out onstage. Yes, she's getting up there in age so she's not like she used to be, but Tina was an electrifying presence on the stage. I saw her live on her farewell tour in 2000 and while I expected a great show, was more than surprised at just how good a show she was able to put on at 60. It wasn't a heavily choreographed lipsynched extravaganza like Cher's shows, Tina worked the stage and never stayed still for two hours. She made sure the audience got every pennies worth.

Aretha OTOH is a great singer (but so is Tina), but has always been a boring live performer from clips I've seen. I think this is a reason why Tina's tours were always events that were sold out and some of the biggest tours of their respective years, while Aretha played smaller theaters because she couldn't pack them in.

[Dean Winchester]

I haven't read much of this thread, but I just want to say that Aretha Franklin has been The Queen of Soul since the 60s. That is an indisputable fact. Just like Elvis is The King. People may not like these titles, but they are there, and have been there for years. Same as Jackson as the King of Pop, and Frank Sinatra was Ole' Blue Eyes. Some things are what they are, like it or not.
true, but Tina has been considered the Queen Of Rock as far back as I recall. I remember watching an HBO special on her when I was a kid in the 80's and they were calling her the Queen of Rock And Roll. She and Aretha are both queens and have both been bestowed said title for decades, which is why I find it funny Aretha got upset, since she and Tina have both been considered the Queen, like Elvis and Michael Jackson have both been considered the King.

[Ireneparalegal]

How lucky John you got to see Tina perform. That was a dream of mine.

I just wish Aretha didn't make this issue public. If she felt the need to vent, then vent privately. What good comes of this to have said her beef to the media? It sounds petty and she sounds bitter. The two ladies are queens and neither needs a title. A title means squat IMHO. Aretha is putting too much empasis on this. Like I said, unless she has a clause in her contract regarding the title, who the hell cares? Aretha, just keep on singing, get your health back and let it go. :lol:

[Janice]

true, but Tina has been considered the Queen Of Rock as far back as I recall. I remember watching an HBO special on her when I was a kid in the 80's and they were calling her the Queen of Rock And Roll. She and Aretha are both queens and have both been bestowed said title for decades, which is why I find it funny Aretha got upset, since she and Tina have both been considered the Queen, like Elvis and Michael Jackson have both been considered the King.
Google, Queen of Soul, and see what you come up with. Endless pages of nothing but Aretha Franklin. Google, Queen of Rock and Roll, and you get a mixed bag, but nothing as definitive as Aretha's title.

If you've got Aretha Franklin in a room, out of respect, you should be a little more careful about how you use the word Queen. Beyonce should have been more specific. Aretha's title is more established than Tina's. God's honest truth, this is the first I heard about Tina's Queen title. Everyone and their mother's mother's knows that Aretha Franklin is The Queen of Soul. Tina, not so much. Nothing to do with talent, just respect for Aretha's title.

[Ireneparalegal]

I did a search, not that I had to, but I did and for Queen of Rock & Roll it comes up with endless Tina Turner links. I am an avid Tina fan and I guess it is more obvious with the Tina fans what her title is, although I don't use that title when chatting abt the lady. I use her name. ;)

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tina_turner_queen_of_rock_n_roll/

For as long as I can remember, Tina has been referenced as Queen of Rock & Roll and even Acid Queen, not for the drug mind you. :lol:

[Janice]

I did a search, not that I had to, but I did and for Queen of Rock & Roll it comes up with endless Tina Turner links. I am an avid Tina fan and I guess it is more obvious with the Tina fans what her title is, although I don't use that title when chatting abt the lady. I use her name. ;)

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tina_turner_queen_of_rock_n_roll/

For as long as I can remember, Tina has been referenced as Queen of Rock & Roll and even Acid Queen, not for the drug mind you. :lol:
Google Irene. I'm not saying that Tina doesn't have that title, just that it's not as established as Aretha's title. Like I said, first I heard of it, and I haven't been living under a rock. It didn't catch on as well as, Aretha Frankin, Queen of Soul.

[Pitooey]

Maybe Aretha would have been happy had Tina been called the Queen of Domestic Violence. :crazy:

;)


LOL.......... Well in that case Aretha should be

Queen of Fat Back

Hi Irene! :wave:

[Ireneparalegal]

Google Irene. I'm not saying that Tina doesn't have that title, just that it's not as established as Aretha's title. Like I said, first I heard of it, and I haven't been living under a rock. It didn't catch on as well as, Aretha Frankin, Queen of Soul.
Yeah QoS just rolls off the tongue real easy. As a matter of fact, it seems so natural to say that title right after you say her name. :lol: The media has used that title so much when referencing Aretha, she should think abt making it a trademark. :cool: But the lady doesn't need a title, she rocks anyways. :rock:

[Janice]

Yeah QoS just rolls off the tongue real easy. As a matter of fact, it seems so natural to say that title right after you say her name. :lol: The media has used that title so much when referencing Aretha, she should think abt making it a trademark. :cool: But the lady doesn't need a title, she rocks anyways. :rock:
I wouldn't be surprised if she did trademark it, lol. People trademark everything these days. I can understand her feelings being hurt. Whoever wrote the introductions, should have been more accurate, to both Tina and Aretha. Blame it on the writer's strike. :lol:

Still, Aretha sounds petty going public with it. Her title, like you say, is almost an extension of her name, so she shouldn't be insecure about it. I think she has the most well-known title in the music business. On par with The King. Those two titles, EVERYONE knows. Anyone over 25, with a pulse, lol.

[Ireneparalegal]

Boy George, I think you got it Janice. BLAME THE WRITERS STRIKE FOR THIS!! :lol: I totally forgot abt the strike and who knows who was writing for the Grammys. :eek: What a goof. But overall, Aretha and Tina have paved the road for the ladies and they each should be secure knowing their place in history is permanent. :cool:

[Janice]

Boy George, I think you got it Janice. BLAME THE WRITERS STRIKE FOR THIS!! :lol: I totally forgot abt the strike and who knows who was writing for the Grammys. :eek: What a goof. But overall, Aretha and Tina have paved the road for the ladies and they each should be secure knowing their place in history is permanent. :cool:
Irene, Irene, do I have to teach you everything? I've been blaming the writer's strike for everything. Overcooked Lou's steak? "Honey, it's that darned writer's strike on my mind." It also came in handy with, "Not in the mood tonight honey. This writer's strike gives me a terrible headache." The list goes on. :lol:

[Dean Winchester]

I think Aretha and Tina are both queens, but ReRe forgets that she and Tina are two totally different styles of music, even if they are both black women pushing 70 who came out when Ike was president. Aretha's roots are gospel and soul, Tina's always been more rock and pop (even in the 60's with Ike, she wanted to work with the Stones over Motown artists, and don't forget her role in Tommy by The Who). I don't think Tina would get upset if someone calls Aretha queen, I think same should apply with Tina being queen. Tina being "Queen of Rock n Roll" is just as entitled to being called "The Queen" as Aretha is being Queen of Soul. Just like Elvis and Michael Jackson both are "The King"

[Ireneparalegal]

Irene, Irene, do I have to teach you everything? I've been blaming the writer's strike for everything. Overcooked Lou's steak? "Honey, it's that darned writer's strike on my mind." It also came in handy with, "Not in the mood tonight honey. This writer's strike gives me a terrible headache." The list goes on. :lol:
:rofl:

BLAME THE WRITERS!!!!

Damn, now that the strike is over, I can't use that excuse!!!!!! :crazy:

[Janice]

Aretha OTOH is a great singer (but so is Tina), but has always been a boring live performer from clips I've seen. I think this is a reason why Tina's tours were always events that were sold out and some of the biggest tours of their respective years, while Aretha played smaller theaters because she couldn't pack them in.
Aretha was an incredible performer. I don't know what clips you saw. Ever see her belt out RESPECT? Smaller theaters? Where do you come up with this stuff? She filled up huge venues when she was at the height of her career.

[Dean Winchester]

How lucky John you got to see Tina perform. That was a dream of mine.

Yep. I remember hearing she was coming to town on her farewell tour and I knew I had to get tickets to see her because it would be a once in a lifetime opportunity. I've probably been to 20-30 concerts in my life, I've seen Michael Jackson, The Rolling Stones, Cher, Janet Jackson, U2, Jewel, Aerosmith, Sting, etc.... tons of great entertainers, but I'd say that until I saw Prince last summer (as a live performer, Prince is second to none IMO), Tina was the greatest concert I ever saw. She performed well into midnight and even after 2 1/2 hrs the fans didn't want her to go. I'd always liked Tina but after I saw her in concert, my appreciation for her deepened, and yes, she is the Queen of Rock IMO.

[88survivor]

I can't wait for Michael Jackson's complaint about Aretha stealing MJ's moves....:rolleyes: :p Really, this has been one celeb fight after another. Come to think of it, in 2001, he was complaining to Sony that his Invincible album didn't sell and he used the race card issue.

[Dean Winchester]

if Aretha hates Tina so much. Why, oh why did she record this song in 1986?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lZOC0CNXHpI

If "Another Night" wasn't an attempt to cash in and mimic Tina's success in the mid-1980's, I don't know what is.

[Brieannas21]

The media is making things up, I highly doubt that Aretha is upset over some Beyonce said. Come on now

[Ireneparalegal]

Did you see the link to the video Brieannas? It is on the previous page. Beyonce's dad responded back as well in that video.

[Brieannas21]

Did you see the link to the video Brieannas? It is on the previous page. Beyonce's dad responded back as well in that video.


Yes I saw it, I still think that the media is making a big deal out of nothing. I seriously doubt that Aretha was soooooooooooooo upset about anything that Beyounce had to say. It's Beyounce for goodness sake

[Janice]

Yes I saw it, I still think that the media is making a big deal out of nothing. I seriously doubt that Aretha was soooooooooooooo upset about anything that Beyounce had to say. It's Beyounce for goodness sake
I agree. It's been blown out of proportion by the scandal hungry media. Aretha made a simple remark over how she felt. She ended it with "love to Beyonce" or whatever. There's no reason for all this venom being hurled her way. The fat remarks are disgusting. Chit Chat has really gone downhill, in terms of adults being unable to discuss celebrity issues without tearing them apart, limb by limb. I'm actually on the lookout for a site where members have civil and mature discussions, and not act like bullies in a schoolyard. I say this to you Brieanna, because you're one of the few members whom I enjoy discussing issues with. We all make jokes, but this is nuts, and only getting worse. If anyone knows of a site that's not all trashing and bashing, I'd love to know about it.

[Janice]

if Aretha hates Tina so much. Why, oh why did she record this song in 1986?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lZOC0CNXHpI

If "Another Night" wasn't an attempt to cash in and mimic Tina's success in the mid-1980's, I don't know what is.
Aretha never said she hated Tina.

[Brieannas21]

I agree. It's been blown out of proportion by the scandal hungry media. Aretha made a simple remark over how she felt. She ended it with "love to Beyonce" or whatever. There's no reason for all this venom being hurled her way. The fat remarks are disgusting. Chit Chat has really gone downhill, in terms of adults being unable to discuss celebrity issues without tearing them apart, limb by limb. I'm actually on the lookout for a site where members have civil and mature discussions, and not act like bullies in a schoolyard. I say this to you Brieanna, because you're one of the few members whom I enjoy discussing issues with. We all make jokes, but this is nuts, and only getting worse. If anyone knows of a site that's not all trashing and bashing, I'd love to know about it.


I know, it get to the point where it is just annoying. After a while, you just lose interest in the thread because of the immaturity of others.

[TJL]

Musicians are getting very touchy nowadays.

Considering how the music industry is going downhill in terms of album sales and fan apathy, I would think they would be happy that people still remember who they are.

[isiahthomas]

LOL@Aretha getting mad at Beyonce for calling Tina Turner a queen instead of her hahahahahahahahahaha. LOL@some of ya'll dissing Aretha's weight hahahahahahahahahaha. She is a big woman and she needs to lose weight. She can't stop eating LOL. Aretha, Monique, Chaka Khan should hang together and go to as many restaurants as they can hahahahahahahahaha. I hate to diss Chaka's weight because i love her and i've seen some old pictures of her when she was skinny and she looked good. I guess she can't stop eating too and that's why she's picked up so much weight. LOL@the person who said Aretha must have in her contract that people have to call her the queen of soul hahahahahahahahahaha. 88survivor i remember Michael Jackson playing the race card when Invincible album didn't sell. He tried to blame Mariah Carey's ex husband Tommy Mattola who worked at Sony records. What's Tommy's job position at Sony? Michael also got Al Sharpton to try to talk to these record companies about how they treat black artists LOL. Most black artists don't know how to read their record contracts and that's why so many of them get taken advantage of with their money especially rappers because you know most of them are stupid LOL. The reason why Michael's Invincible album didn't sell is because he's weird and blacks who used to support him don't like him anymore because he's weird. Even white people who used to support him sees that he's weird and they stopped buying his albums. So Michael has nobody to blame but himself for his records not selling anymore.

[Zoneboy]

Most black artists don't know how to read their record contracts and that's why so many of them get taken advantage of with their money especially rappers because you know most of them are stupid LOL.

Do you have any idea how stupid and degrading that sounds? How the hell do you know the education level of these artists? I'll say this much, at least they're out there making money which is what you should be doing instead of constantly berating members of your own race and complaining about not having a better job.