Solomon's Weekly Rant (9/29/2007) Discussion: The Premiere Delay of New Fall Shows

[Pavan]

Please read:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2007/09/abc-fall-pilot-review-carpoolers.html

...then discuss.

[Ireneparalegal]

Again Solomon my man, I agree with you. However, I think I have a reason why the shows premiere late.

Back in the days (my era 1970's) when new shows began, it was almost always the first or second week of September. Nothing sooner and nothing later. September was thee month for shows to start their new season or for NEW shows to start.

However, we had only THREE NETWORKS. There wasn't much competition when a show should start to get the attention of viewers. Nowadays, you got lots of channels competing for viewers to tune in to watch their programming. It is just too constricted, therefore, many shows will delay their pilot airings or new seasons; it is spread out.

I highly agree that TV Guide should only publish information that will pertain to the FOLLOWING WEEK(s) because I totally forget when a show is supposed to start. I can't remember every friggin' "New Season" or "New Show" date. There are far too many shows and to be honest, it is a turn-off. One reason I don't end up watching many new shows is because I am already in tune with current shows that have already started their season.

[Ireneparalegal]

Let me add, I don't watch the Today show, but almost dropping a salsa dancer sounds SCARY!

I was :rofl: as I read the highlight of the week. I think you are right, I think Barbara was upset that Joy revealed her affair with Castro ON THE AIR. :lol:

[Stuck In The '70's]

I enjoy the Fall preview edition of TV Guide. I look forward to it every year and I'm glad they have a preview of all the fall shows in the one magazine. I do agree with you about the networks though. Their's no reason to have some of their fall shows premiere in October or even November. Most people already have their viewing patterns planned out by then.

[TVFactFan]

Let me add, I don't watch the Today show, but almost dropping a salsa dancer sounds SCARY!

I was :rofl: as I read the highlight of the week. I think you are right, I think Barbara was upset that Joy revealed her affair with Castro ON THE AIR. :lol:



Yeah when Tiki was lifting her up over his head, he was struggling and almost lost his grip. In tki defense, the girl was kind of thick in the right places which maybe why she was hard to hold-LOL

[TVFactFan]

I enjoy the Fall preview edition of TV Guide. I look forward to it every year and I'm glad they have a preview of all the fall shows in the one magazine. I do agree with you about the networks though. Their's no reason to have some of their fall shows premiere in October or even November. Most people already have their viewing patterns planned out by then.


And see by the show starting so late in the fall it raises my expectations so when I do watch Samantha Who I will be expecting to like the show because of the long delay.

[Cactus Jack]

LOL that was great

[JulieSomoski]

Good rant, Solomon! October does sound too late for fall premieres (unless of course, another writer's strike is going on). Viewers expect to watch the new fall season in September, not October. It has been that way for 50 years, and it shouldn't stop.

I may be one of the few people in this world who does not get TV Guide, so that really wouldn't make a difference to me. If I hear about a show that sounds watchable to me, I'll watch it, no matter when it's on.

[TVFactFan]

Good rant, Solomon! October does sound too late for fall premieres (unless of course, another writer's strike is going on). Viewers expect to watch the new fall season in September, not October. It has been that way for 50 years, and it shouldn't stop.

I may be one of the few people in this world who does not get TV Guide, so that really wouldn't make a difference to me. If I hear about a show that sounds watchable to me, I'll watch it, no matter when it's on.



Are your expectations higher when a New show starts so close to November?

[JulieSomoski]

Are your expectations higher when a New show starts so close to November?

Actually, no. I just get tired of waiting for it to premiere (especially when I start getting excited about it in May-LOL) I just forget aobut it entirely. Like, with Pushing Daisies, I was looking forward to watching this back in the spring, but I'm already getting into Back to You, so right now, I could care less about PD.

This happened with Murphy Brown back in 1988. I know it was a writer's strike and all, but I got so tired of waiting for this show to come on, I missed the first 4 or 5 episodes of the series. Then, when I finally got around to watching it, the show didn't interest me at all. It wasn't until the last season when I really got into the show.

[TVFactFan]

Actually, no. I just get tired of waiting for it to premiere (especially when I start getting excited about it in May-LOL) I just forget aobut it entirely. Like, with Pushing Daisies, I was looking forward to watching this back in the spring, but I'm already getting into Back to You, so right now, I could care less about PD.

This happened with Murphy Brown back in 1988. I know it was a writer's strike and all, but I got so tired of waiting for this show to come on, I missed the first 4 or 5 episodes of the series. Then, when I finally got around to watching it, the show didn't interest me at all. It wasn't until the last season when I really got into the show.



I guess I just always felt the "SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST" mentality played into the Network's decision to air the show in the month of October and that's why I expect to be enteretained when I watch it-lol

[JulieSomoski]

I guess I just always felt the "SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST" mentality played into the Network's decision to air the show in the month of October and that's why I expect to be enteretained when I watch it-lol

That's why I'm sorry I didn't give Murphy Brown a chance back then. It's such a good show now, but you can hardly find it on TV. I guess that's what networks are trying to do nowadays. They stick all the no-chance-at-doing-well shows in September, and all the 15+ million shows in October-LOL

[Ireneparalegal]

Good rant, Solomon! October does sound too late for fall premieres (unless of course, another writer's strike is going on). Viewers expect to watch the new fall season in September, not October. It has been that way for 50 years, and it shouldn't stop.

I may be one of the few people in this world who does not get TV Guide, so that really wouldn't make a difference to me. If I hear about a show that sounds watchable to me, I'll watch it, no matter when it's on.
You are not the only one. I used to get TVGuide religiously back in the days, however, their format changed and the bigger magazine is horrible. Let me add, back in the days, TVGuide use to have great information for shows, even the syndicated shows. You could see what episode was going to show. Now, you are lucky if you get just an episode title. I don't like that. I want to know the whole information. TVGuide USED TO give DETAILED info for all the programming, old movies, tv shows, sometimes it gave info as to what celebs would appear on certain game shows (like Match Game). It is not the same anymore. :(

[Stuck In The '70's]

You are not the only one. I used to get TVGuide religiously back in the days, however, their format changed and the bigger magazine is horrible. Let me add, back in the days, TVGuide use to have great information for shows, even the syndicated shows. You could see what episode was going to show. Now, you are lucky if you get just an episode title. I don't like that. I want to know the whole information. TVGuide USED TO give DETAILED info for all the programming, old movies, tv shows, sometimes it gave info as to what celebs would appear on certain game shows (like Match Game). It is not the same anymore. :(
I still collect them...I've been doing that since 1983 but the magazine sucks anymore. The only issue I even like is the Fall Prevew Edition. I used to love the local listings. Now I have to turn on the tv to see what's coming on. I don't even know if I get the Cowboys game a lot of times until Gameday. :(

[Ireneparalegal]

I still collect them...I've been doing that since 1983 but the magazine sucks anymore. The only issue I even like is the Fall Prevew Edition. I used to love the local listings. Now I have to turn on the tv to see what's coming on. I don't even know if I get the Cowboys game a lot of times until Gameday. :(
Exactly! The local listings used to be great. Not anymore. I remember I would go through the TVGuide and use a yellow highlighter and mark the programs I would want to watch. I could know FIVE DAYS IN ADVANCE what was coming on. Now, it is all abt my cable box information and that only gives me information for the next 48 hours. :( :mad:

[TVFactFan]

I still collect them...I've been doing that since 1983 but the magazine sucks anymore. The only issue I even like is the Fall Prevew Edition. I used to love the local listings. Now I have to turn on the tv to see what's coming on. I don't even know if I get the Cowboys game a lot of times until Gameday. :(


Do you have the fall preview of 83?-lol

[Stuck In The '70's]

Do you have the fall preview of 83?-lol
yep.

[JulieSomoski]

You are not the only one. I used to get TVGuide religiously back in the days, however, their format changed and the bigger magazine is horrible. Let me add, back in the days, TVGuide use to have great information for shows, even the syndicated shows. You could see what episode was going to show. Now, you are lucky if you get just an episode title. I don't like that. I want to know the whole information. TVGuide USED TO give DETAILED info for all the programming, old movies, tv shows, sometimes it gave info as to what celebs would appear on certain game shows (like Match Game). It is not the same anymore. :(

Good to see I'm not the only one here. All I get now is the TV Book my local newspaper publishes. That gives the episode title, and a 1 sentence description on the episodes. TV Guide just seem useless to me.

There's a rant topic for you Solomon-LOL

[Ireneparalegal]

Good to see I'm not the only one here. All I get now is the TV Book my local newspaper publishes. That gives the episode title, and a 1 sentence description on the episodes. TV Guide just seem useless to me.

There's a rant topic for you Solomon-LOL
I agree, there is a topic for Solomon to use in the future. Does the current TVguide still have the TVcrossword puzzle in it?

[TVFactFan]

Good to see I'm not the only one here. All I get now is the TV Book my local newspaper publishes. That gives the episode title, and a 1 sentence description on the episodes. TV Guide just seem useless to me.

There's a rant topic for you Solomon-LOL


Well the new format for TV guide is better for me because I always wanted to read the TV news and gossip-lol I never bought the TV guide to read the episode description, only tv news

[Brent88]

I had a subscription to TV Guide for YEARS. Well it was up back in the winter and I didn't renew it and have not regretted it or considered renewing since. I see I haven't missed much.

[Stuck In The '70's]

It's more like a gossip magazine anymore. lol

[TVFactFan]

In defense of Tv guide, they had to change the format to keep up with the times because of Cable and the Internet. So they were forced to make changes

[ethelmaepotter]

They try to get a big jump these days because shows are so awful, the only way they can get them to watch it is promote it as much as possible in the weeks or months before debut.