Season 8 has at least 1 edit!!

[SoapFan71]

So I am sitting here watching Season 8...& to my dismay...the end of Episode 1 is missing the "Patty Duke Show" homage!! I am upset! :confused: Guess they couldn't get the music rights to use it!!?? BOO!!

[Heist81]

Lame.. Well, what is the episode's tag instead?

[SoapFan71]

Lame.. Well, what is the episode's tag instead?
Just a black screen with the credits running & the opening music playing!! :(

[PhilaEaglesHater]

I'm not a roseanne fan but i know how frustrating not to have missing Tag scenes on a DVD. i went through that with Three's Company. Paying money for incomplete seasons is not cool

[ThomasE]

I am glad that I taped that ep when it aired on ABC back in95'. I still cannot get over the fact that Anchor Bay used Becky #2 instead of #1. I have a big problem with that. I know that Sarah is known for her role on "Scrubs" but Lecy does have squatting rights. I have a major issue with that.

[PhilaEaglesHater]

I am glad that I taped that ep when it aired on ABC back in95'. I still cannot get over the fact that Anchor Bay used Becky #2 instead of #1. I have a big problem with that. I know that Sarah is known for her role on "Scrubs" but Lecy does have squatting rights. I have a major issue with that.


I wish someone would take the ABC ep of Roseanne off my hands-lol Tom did u get your tape?

[Pavan]

I'm not a roseanne fan but i know how frustrating not to have missing Tag scenes on a DVD. i went through that with Three's Company. Paying money for incomplete seasons is not cool

That is a terrible comparison. The Three's Company episode that was missing a tag is not even confirmed if it even had a tag originally. There is no proof yet. And that is just one episode out of 172. For Roseanne, there is actual proof. There are way more DVD sets out there that are way worse...see Roseanne S1, Cosby Show S1, A Different World S1, all of ALF's seasons, etc. How about edits on every episode for those.

[PhilaEaglesHater]

That is a terrible comparison. The Three's Company episode that was missing a tag is not even confirmed if it even had a tag originally. There is no proof yet. And that is just one episode out of 172. For Roseanne, there is actual proof. There are way more DVD sets out there that are way worse...see Roseanne S1, Cosby Show S1, A Different World S1, all of ALF's seasons, etc. How about edits on every episode for those.


I made a new post last night on the Three's Company Board about a season 7 ep on DD also not having a tag. 1 out of 24 just like on the season 4 DVD

[JulieSomoski]

Plus, the Patty Duke scene was on the best tag scenes in Roseanne history! It's horrible that we won't even be able to own it on DVD!

In my opinion, the Three's Company sets were some of the best ever. It really is a bad comparison against Roseanne.

[Pavan]

I made a new post last night on the Three's Company Board about a season 7 ep on DD also not having a tag. 1 out of 24 just like on the season 4 DVD

If an episode doesn't have a tag it doesn't mean it was cut out. It might have not had one originally. For example on 8 Simple Rules, I noticed 3-4 episodes didn't have a tag in season one when it originally aired and of course those don't have tags on the DVD.

That Season 7 episode of Three's Company that doesn't have a tag still runs well over 25 minutes. Get some proof before you say stuff. I have that episode from original airing and there is no tag.

[PhilaEaglesHater]

If an episode doesn't have a tag it doesn't mean it was cut out. It might have not had one originally. For example on 8 Simple Rules, I noticed 3-4 episodes didn't have a tag in season one when it originally aired and of course those don't have tags on the DVD.

That Season 7 episode of Three's Company that doesn't have a tag still runs well over 25 minutes. Get some proof before you say stuff. I have that episode from original airing and there is no tag.


You having the ABC version of that episode is nough proof for me-lol Case closed on season 7

[ThomasE]

I wish someone would take the ABC ep of Roseanne off my hands-lol Tom did u get your tape?
I will have to check. Did you send it to the Tampa addreess? I will just call home and find out.

[zypherix]

Despite 817 and 819 being shorter than 22 minutes they may just be complete after all. The season one episode "Mall Story" originally ran about 22:30, and is present in such length on the australian dvd. I compared this to the german dubbed ep and its identical.

[gotsmart]

I've noticed something strange: "Springtime for David" runs 21:33 normally but with video commentary it runs 22:06. Not sure about the differences. With commentary it's not like Roseanne and Michael comment before the episode starts or after it ends so the extra 33 seconds are not from the commentary itself. Maybe it's the disclaimer "This commentary does not reflect....." message before it starts but I don't think that was 30 seconds.

I also noticed the other 2 episodes with commentary run about 30 seconds shorter than the episodes by themselves.

I am also dissapointed that the "Identical Beckys" tag is cut out. That was one of my favorite tags from the entire series.

[MadonnasManOne]

Why is it that none of the reviews of this show on DVD mention that montage being left off? In fact, of the three reviews I've read, all of them make mention of that montage, and do not mention it not appearing on the DVD. I picked up my copy, today, so, I'll have to check it out.

[MadonnasManOne]

Well, it looks like someone else has found another edit. Apparently, in one of the Disney World Episodes, the scene where "When You Wish Upon A Star" was played, is not there.

I'm tempted to just take this set back to the store. I haven't opened it, yet, so, I might just do that!

[coffield3]

Its a big dissapointment i finished watching it last night and noticed these things you all have stated, god knows what season 9 will be like! geez! :cuss:

[SoapFan71]

Here's a ? about edits. Wasn't there a tag scene at the end of "December Bride"?? I could've sworn all the ep's of this season had tag scenes. Any1 know what's missing??? Thanx, D

[JulieSomoski]

Here's a ? about edits. Wasn't there a tag scene at the end of "December Bride"?? I could've sworn all the ep's of this season had tag scenes. Any1 know what's missing??? Thanx, D

There was a tag scene at the end of December Bride. I think it's about DJ looking at the nude pamphlet that had his teacher in it. What is with all these edits? I think I hear an email to Anchor Bay about this coming up . . .

[PhilaEaglesHater]

There was a tag scene at the end of December Bride. I think it's about DJ looking at the nude pamphlet that had his teacher in it. What is with all these edits? I think I hear an email to Anchor Bay about this coming up . . .


So Anchor Bay Released Roseanne too???

[JulieSomoski]

So Anchor Bay Released Roseanne too???

yeah. They released Roseanne and Three's Company. But, Roseanne has been much more a problem edits-wise than TC.

[BeatleMoe]

I remember seeing the rerun of DECEMBER BRIDE in the summer of 96 on ABC, and the ending with Milton Berle's cameo is the same as it is in syndication. I have yet to get the set, and it is a shame about the tag edit on the premeire episode. They had done a good job, except with season one, and they seemed to have managed to get song rights in previous episodes, like in "Mothers Day" and "Sweet Sixteen," as well as the Bewitched theme playing in the background during the end credits of "Homecoming." Somebody ought to check "Direct to Video" episode to see if the "Facts of Life" theme is playing.

[zypherix]

edit: nevermind

[Roseanne_fan1985]

Well I thought I'd share this response I got. I emailed registering my disappointment. The reply seems to stress that there were no edits and only music replacements were done. Which we know to be a lie.

Also the last statement of the reply leaves me worried about whether Season 9 is going to suffer the same fate.

The only edits that were made to the Roseanne Season 8 content was music related. There were certain music cues that needed to be replaced within the set due to unreasonably high licensing fees. This is a standard procedure for tv dvd box sets- and unfortunately, a necessary one in order to still release these box sets. All episodes are in tact as originally aired with the exception of various music cues replaced. The alternative to this would have been not releasing the episodes at all. We appreciate our devoted fans, and we are sorry that they are disappointed, but, we thought that this was a better solution then not releasing this season at all!

I’m sorry, but we will not be offering replacement discs, and this will be the same story for Season 9.

Anyway just to check. The only 2 changes are the Patty Duke Show bit and the replacement music in the DisneyWorld episode?

[JulieSomoski]

Well I thought I'd share this response I got. I emailed registering my disappointment. The reply seems to stress that there were no edits and only music replacements were done. Which we know to be a lie.

Also the last statement of the reply leaves me worried about whether Season 9 is going to suffer the same fate.

Anyway just to check. The only 2 changes are the Patty Duke Show bit and the replacement music in the DisneyWorld episode?

First, I got this exact same email from Anchor Bay, so it looks like those were the only 2 related. Second, about season 9. Can anyone think of any songs that were played in season 9? I really can't think of any off the top of my head. If there were songs okayed in the final season, then those scenes will probably be removed.

[Bachu]

I CAN'T BELIEVE "THAT" TAG IS MISSING! I have a beat up version on tape somewhere and was looking forward to seeing this one in superb dvd quality. Can we write to anyone???

"Meet Lecy the one you used to see, from 88 to 93..."

[SoapFan71]

There is a missing tag scene from "Construction Junction" too! Don't remember what it is tho?!

[JulieSomoski]

There is a missing tag scene from "Construction Junction" too! Don't remember what it is tho?!

instead of the tag scene, what's in it's place while the credits roll?

[SoapFan71]

instead of the tag scene, what's in it's place while the credits roll?
Like the other 2 missing tags..it has just a black screen with the opening music playing.

[JulieSomoski]

Like the other 2 missing tags..it has just a black screen with the opening music playing.

That's an obvious edit, because non of the episodes ever were like the in it's orignal run. I'll have to email Anchor Bay about this again, just to see what they have to say.

[JClabaugh@aol.com]

They will probably edit the christmas episode from season 9 because they use "Walking in a Winter Wonder Land" in that episode but I can think of any others off hand!

[zypherix]

Syndication tags:
Construction Junction - Tiny Tim and David playing ukulele
December Bride (is this the other one?) - Milton Berle catching a bridal bouquet

[Heist81]

Heh, in the Disney episode, when David walks away sadly singing "When You Wish Upon a Star" they mute the sound and add in a laugh track, but you can see his mouth moving.

[JulieSomoski]

Okay, I emailed them again asking about all these edits, and they say every tag scene that is missing is also because of music rights.

[Bachu]

Are these tags you guys mentioned from season 8?

I think I'd rather have the two Beckys scene just play with the Roseanne music so you at least see the scene.

[SoapFan71]

Syndication tags:
Construction Junction - Tiny Tim and David playing ukulele
December Bride (is this the other one?) - Milton Berle catching a bridal bouquet
Is there music playing in the Milton Berle tag? Don't even remember, I didn't see this episode much in syndication. Amazon gave me a $3 refund cuz the price changed from the shipping date to the "release" date, so at least I got something back, doesn't really make up 4 the edits tho!

[JulieSomoski]

Is there music playing in the Milton Berle tag? Don't even remember, I didn't see this episode much in syndication. Amazon gave me a $3 refund cuz the price changed from the shipping date to the "release" date, so at least I got something back, doesn't really make up 4 the edits tho!

Must have been since they edited it out. But, I can't eremmber what. Maybe some sort of wedding music?

You know, we could have still gotten all these scenes in the DVD. Like Bachu said, they could have left the scene just with the Roseanne theme or something in tis' place. Instead we get a black screen.

[garrettgam]

I don't understand the Milton Berle edit either. I don't think there's any music playing other than the standard Roseanne credit music that usually plays when the final scene is over and the screen freezes - unless the version of that scene that plays in syndication is edited and the uncut version contained music of some kind. But, even then I don't see why the syndication version of the tag couldn't be included.

Another edit: the audio of the Pepe Le Peu cartoon that plays in the tag of the episode "Let Them Eat Junk" has been replaced. I'm almost sure the music was different and once Dan sat down on the couch, the audio of the cartoon continued to play and even included a short piece of dialogue from Pepe Le Peu. On the DVD version, Dan sits down, opens his can of beer, the scene freezes and standard Roseanne credits music plays.

I'm glad we have most of the episodes uncut but D*MN do all these edits make this set a huge disappointment...

[hunt5000]

In reading all of this, I thought I would share with all of you that the Facts of Life theme song, in the "Direct to Video" episode, is indeed edited out. Some generic music plays instead. Really takes away from Dan's line of, "You know, if you think about it, this show is really the "Friends" of the '70's."
And from what I remember, I didn't think there was any music playing during the tag on "December Bride" with the Milton Berle cameo.
And it is a huge disappointment that some of these tags were taken out. Some really funny stuff in those tags.
I believe that the one poster was right about the Pepe Le Pew music, too...I was thinking that the Looney Tunes theme played at one point during that scene originally. So I believe that music was edited, too.

[Heist81]

In reading all of this, I thought I would share with all of you that the Facts of Life theme song, in the "Direct to Video" episode, is indeed edited out. Some generic music plays instead. Really takes away from Dan's line of, "You know, if you think about it, this show is really the "Friends" of the '70's."
And from what I remember, I didn't think there was any music playing during the tag on "December Bride" with the Milton Berle cameo.
And it is a huge disappointment that some of these tags were taken out. Some really funny stuff in those tags.
I believe that the one poster was right about the Pepe Le Pew music, too...I was thinking that the Looney Tunes theme played at one point during that scene originally. So I believe that music was edited, too.

Yes the Looney Tunes theme is playing during that scene with DJ and Dan.

[JClabaugh@aol.com]

They will probably edit the season 9 halloween episode a little bit because it has the "That Girl" theme.

I got the original Satan Darling script on Ebay and reading the un edited episode makes it a tiny bit more funny. But this is still not one of my fav's.

[JulieSomoski]

They will probably edit the season 9 halloween episode a little bit because it has the "That Girl" theme.

I got the original Satan Darling script on Ebay and reading the un edited episode makes it a tiny bit more funny. But this is still not one of my fav's.

I completely agree.

[Buffyboy323]

You know, we could have still gotten all these scenes in the DVD. Like Bachu said, they could have left the scene just with the Roseanne theme or something in tis' place. Instead we get a black screen.

Exactly! They could have used some generic music in the place of the actual music that was played. A bunch of TV DVD box sets have used replaced music. There's no excuse why scenes had to be completely deleted.

BTW, is it me or should Anchor Bay have said that the 8th season DVD would have some edits?....It wouldn't have mattered to me, because I would buy it, no matter what, but some people are really pissed off about this.

[Buffyboy323]

In reading all of this, I thought I would share with all of you that the Facts of Life theme song, in the "Direct to Video" episode, is indeed edited out. Some generic music plays instead. Really takes away from Dan's line of, "You know, if you think about it, this show is really the "Friends" of the '70's."

UGH!...Along with the scene with the two Becky`s that was cut, this is the worst part of the DVD set, IMO. Boo!

[Br26]

it's usually in the nick at nite airings, and isnt it a parody of the theme song? i wonder why they would cut that from the dvd.

[Ireneparalegal]

Just a black screen with the credits running & the opening music playing!! :(
:eek: That is stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ThomasE]

Well, so is putting an actress on the front cover of season eight and having her to appear in only three episodes in which she probably only had ten lines in total with all eps combined. The original actress came back, so she should be there instead.

[zypherix]

Another edit: (im not sure about when it originally ran) The music in "Halloween the Final Chapter" when the dancers arrive is different from the song heard in syndication.

[JulieSomoski]

Another edit: (im not sure about when it originally ran) The music in "Halloween the Final Chapter" when the dancers arrive is different from the song heard in syndication.

Is it like that on the special Halloween release they did last year? I don't think it is, but I'll have to check.

[Buffyboy323]

Another edit: (im not sure about when it originally ran) The music in "Halloween the Final Chapter" when the dancers arrive is different from the song heard in syndication.
Oh come on!....So exactly how many edits for the set is this now? 5? 6?

[garrettgam]

Is it like that on the special Halloween release they did last year? I don't think it is, but I'll have to check.

I checked. The same song is used for both the Halloween Edition and the Season 8 set. Now, I don't know if the song is the same one that appears in the syndication version of the episode, but if I find my copy of it, I'll check.

[garrettgam]

Is there music playing in the Milton Berle tag? Don't even remember, I didn't see this episode much in syndication.

I just found my copy of the episode taped from syndication and there is NO MUSIC playing over it except the standard Roseanne end credit music that plays after the scene is over and the screen freezes. Maybe the uncut version had music but we know for sure the syndication version doesn't so there is NO reason I can think of why the scene was completely cut; a syndication cut is better than NOTHING AT ALL. I'm going to email Starz about it.

[JulieSomoski]

I just found my copy of the episode taped from syndication and there is NO MUSIC playing over it except the standard Roseanne end credit music that plays after the scene is over and the screen freezes. Maybe the uncut version had music but we know for sure the syndication version doesn't so there is NO reason I can think of why the scene was completely cut; a syndication cut is better than NOTHING AT ALL. I'm going to email Starz about it.

I'd like to hear what they say about it.

[zypherix]

I checked. The same song is used for both the Halloween Edition and the Season 8 set. Now, I don't know if the song is the same one that appears in the syndication version of the episode, but if I find my copy of it, I'll check.

I checked the syndicated version vs. S8 dvd.. not the same song.

[garrettgam]

I'd like to hear what they say about it.

Here's the email I received:

I’m sorry, but I really don’t have a ton of information available. We were not involved in the music clearance part of these DVDs- you will have to contact Carsey Werner for that information on both seasons.

Looks like the problem is YET AGAIN Carsey Werner and not Starz Home Entertainment. Does anyone have contact information for them? There's no contact info on CW's website (Hmm... I wonder WHY?)

I checked. The same song is used for both the Halloween Edition and the Season 8 set. Now, I don't know if the song is the same one that appears in the syndication version of the episode, but if I find my copy of it, I'll check.I checked the syndicated version vs. S8 dvd.. not the same song.

Oh, yes. I must have read your post wrong. Thanks for pointing that out.

That makes a total of EIGHT edits/music replacements we've found so far. Here's a master list of them:

1. "Shower the People You Love with Stuff" - 2 Beckys "Patty Duke" parody cut, replaced with credits over black screen and Roseanne Theme playing

2. "Let Them Eat Junk" - Pepe Le Peu cartoon (audio) replaced in Tag with generic music

3. "Direct to Video" - Facts of Life Theme edited out of first scene, replaced with generic music

4. "Construction Junction" - Tag deleted featuring Tiny Tim playing ukulele with David, replaced with credits over black screen and Roseanne Theme playing

5. "We're Going to Disney World" - David singing "When You Wish Upon a Star" is muted and replaced with longer audience reaction

6. "Disney World War II" - "When You Wish Upon a Star" replaced twice with upbeat marching-type music

7. "December Bride" - Tag with Milton Berle in drag completely cut, replaced with credits over black screen and Roseanne Theme playing

8. "Halloween: The Final Chapter" - Music over dance sequence near end of episode is replaced, differs from that used in syndication

[Heist81]

The music playing during the Halloween dance section was a Grateful Dead song. I was bummed out when they took that out, I like that song.

[Billy K.]

RE: The 8th Season Holloween Episode.

I believe they originally had The Grateful Dead's cover of Buddy Holly's "Not Fade Away" on the original episode.

On the DVDs -- they have overdubbed the scene with the Jerry Garcia Band song --- "Sisters And Brothers".

[zypherix]

On the lighter side.. "We're going to Disneyworld" (part 1) is NOT syndicated, despite running at only 21:30. The end credits run during the final scene on dvd, but in syndication they begin rolling AFTER the scene ends. I believe this is also the case for "Springtime for David". The eps that were used with video commentary where the syndicated prints, which explains why "Springtime for David" is longer there.

[Bachu]

Considering these dvds sold well enough for them to release all 9 seasons you would have thought that they would have used some of the profits that they made to pay for the extra music rights:( :mad:

[BeatleMoe]

I am a little bummed out about the music thing too, but at least it's not like Season 1, where everything was edited. I do believe that Starz should have put a disclaimer on its box indicating that there were music edits. Also, Milton Berle is not listed on the back of the box. Had he been listed as a special guest on the back of the box and not appeared, I would have been mad. They did that on the Will and Grace season 5 finale, listing Deborah Harry as a guest, then giving us the syndicated version.

Yes, season 8 is a step DOWN from seasons 2-7, but I liked the set overall.

[Jason16]

I got this set this week and i started watching it. Roseanne's baby shower has the end credits replaced with a black screen and the theme tune playing over it. Season 8 looks good, i've only seen a few episodes from season 8, not all of them.

Glad to see becky number 1 in a few episodes :D (i always fancied the first one)

[ThomasE]

She appeared througout the season. She appeared in 14 episodes. I know that she was back and forth at Vassar and the show. I have the first six eps downloaded from season eight and am watching "That 50's show" Lecy Goranson is hilarious as a fifties version of Rebecca. She truly has comedic timing. I like Michael Fishman's little brother with his "uh oh somebody's in trouble!" I got to see the first episode for that season and too noticed that the "Patty Duke" spoof was gone as well. At least I taped it from ABC back in 95' and it still airs in syndication.